3A Division II State Semifinal: Brownwood (14-0) vs. Carthage (12-2)

[hollywood]

Brownwood will win!!

[poisoned10]

This may have been asked and answered in 1 of the 209340 posts on this thread, but who is home/visitor?

[Tin Cup]

Ok bobcatstalker1 lol

[BullBoy]

Originally posted by poisoned10
This may have been asked and answered in 1 of the 209340 posts on this thread, but who is home/visitor? Brownwood is home

[hollywood]

Originally posted by poisoned10
This may have been asked and answered in 1 of the 209340 posts on this thread, but who is home/visitor?

MAROON

[Tin Cup]

Originally posted by poisoned10
This may have been asked and answered in 1 of the 209340 posts on this thread, but who is home/visitor?

Brownwood = Home

[RoyceTTU]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
Carthage offense question. If you take away Claiborne and the RB, what options do they have?

The Half Back Pass
The Statue of Liberty
and The Swinging Gate

:D :D :D

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
Ok bobcatstalker1 lol :rolleyes: Just seemed a little doubt crept in. Friday is getting closer.

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
Brownwood = Home

Brownwood = Staying HOME next week

[Jauch]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
Brownwood = Staying HOME next week

If you mean home as being at the "Big house", then yes, we'll be home next week

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
Carthage offense question. If you take away Claiborne and the RB, what options do they have?

Cortlyn Ware who has over 800 yards in rec yards and 7 TDS and Tamonte Hines who has over 600 yds rushing in a back up role

[BwdLions]

If you miss a few hours on the DownLow, it takes a while to catch up. The excitement continues to build for this one. Go Lions!

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Cortlyn Ware who has over 800 yards in rec yards and 7 TDS and Tamonte Hines who has over 600 yds rushing in a back up role

Don't forget Hunter Holland is a recieving threat as well. We may see more of that this game.

[Old LB]

Is anyone in Carthage allergic to nickel? :thinking:

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by Old LB
Is anyone in Carthage allergic to nickel? :thinking:

Nope, We're all pierced with at least 10 ounces of it. We carry a lot of it in our pocket as well.

[bobcat1]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Who advances to the State Championship game?
You have already voted on this poll.
Brownwood (14-0) 75 49.67%
Carthage (12-2) 76 50.33%
Total: 151 votes 100%

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Old LB
Is anyone in Carthage allergic to nickel? :thinking:


lol no Carthage plays mostly spread teams thru the year

[LeonJr]

Leon hears that Chuck Norris is the head official in this game.

[Old LB]

Maybe this has been covered, haven't read this whole mess. What is Pope's vertical? They say he has the speed to cover Shipley, but can he jump high enough to get to the ball in the end?

[Old LB]

Originally posted by LeonJr
Leon hears that Chuck Norris is the head official in this game.
That's a LIE, we already have lunch set-up for the head official. :rolleyes:

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by Old LB
Maybe this has been covered, haven't read this whole mess. What is Pope's vertical? They say he has the speed to cover Shipley, but can he jump high enough to get to the ball in the end? I hear Shipley has a 51 inch vertical and runs a 4.1 in the 40 so I doubt the guy can cover him. :rolleyes:

[Old LB]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
I hear Shipley has a 51 inch vertical and runs a 4.1 in the 40 so I doubt the guy can cover him. :rolleyes:

52-4.0

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Old LB
Maybe this has been covered, haven't read this whole mess. What is Pope's vertical? They say he has the speed to cover Shipley, but can he jump high enough to get to the ball in the end?

Well he is 6'3 and scores about 10 ppg a game in Bball with 8 boards so I am going to say he can jump ok


I still dont think Pope is on Shipley one on one as much as people think..Pope is better playing the playmaker position..putting him on Ship plays to Bwood IMO

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
Don't forget Hunter Holland is a recieving threat as well. We may see more of that this game.

It will be interesting to see which RB does the best. We have a very similar RB in #38 Stehl Ratliff that is very tough to bring down. Very rare that he is tackled on the first hit. Has great hands and runs with a vengeance.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by hollywood
It will be interesting to see which RB does the best. We have a very similar RB in #38 Stehl Ratliff that is very tough to bring down. Very rare that he is tackled on the first hit. Has great hands and runs with a vengeance.

the two RBS are VERY similar..Ratliff imo a little more "wiggle" Holland little more power and size straight speed about the same

[Old LB]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Well he is 6'3 and scores about 10 ppg a game in Bball with 8 boards so I am going to say he can jump ok


I still dont think Pope is on Shipley one on one as much as people think..Pope is better playing the playmaker position..putting him on Ship plays to Bwood IMO

It would be good if he could bang heads with the backs all night. Might get wore down a little. Sounds like a good athlete, we shall see.

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Well he is 6'3 and scores about 10 ppg a game in Bball with 8 boards so I am going to say he can jump ok


I still dont think Pope is on Shipley one on one as much as people think..Pope is better playing the playmaker position..putting him on Ship plays to Bwood IMO

Pope is not as quick as Shipley. Shipley will eat him for lunch!

[Tin Cup]

Not a player in Texas H.S. football that can cover Shipley 1 on 1.

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by hollywood
It will be interesting to see which RB does the best. We have a very similar RB in #38 Stehl Ratliff that is very tough to bring down. Very rare that he is tackled on the first hit. Has great hands and runs with a vengeance.

Yeah I saw him last night in the second quarter versus Bridgeport. He's quick too and hits the hole fast. He's going to be a challenge.

[Tejastrue]

Wow, don't believe I've seen this all year. A BW opponent actually leads in the "who wins" poll. Take a picture. Still have to play the game though. :1popcorn:

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
Not a player in Texas H.S. football that can cover Shipley 1 on 1.

Too bad we can't validate such a statement eh?

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by Tejastrue
Wow, don't believe I've seen this all year. A BW opponent actually leads in the "who wins" poll. Take a picture. Still have to play the game though. :1popcorn:

Get used to it. If we can keep our current coaching staff together, Carthage is going to be a Perennial Contender for years to come.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by hollywood
Pope is not as quick as Shipley. Shipley will eat him for lunch!

says who? I mean really none of us know that

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
Brownwood = Staying HOME next week

Carthage = Staying HOME next week!:D

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Old LB
52-4.0

60 - 3.5!:D

The Train is coming!:D:D:D

P.S. Heard it at the Whataburger in Early!:)

[Tin Cup]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
says who? I mean really none of us know that

I have no idea how "fast" Pope is but he's not as "quick" as Shipley.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
I have no idea how "fast" Pope is but he's not as "quick" as Shipley.

again until they hit the field we dont know

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
I have no idea how "fast" Pope is but he's not as "quick" as Shipley.

You cant argue with that statement...that Shipley kid....wow. I went and checked out several Youtubes...damn. He is somethnig else.

[Old LB]

Originally posted by garciap77
60 - 3.5!:D

The Train is coming!:D:D:D

P.S. Heard it at the Whataburger in Early!:)

Did you hear he has grown 6" and put on 20 pounds since the Wylie game, Boy is a BEAST! :eek:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by hollywood
It will be interesting to see which RB does the best. We have a very similar RB in #38 Stehl Ratliff that is very tough to bring down. Very rare that he is tackled on the first hit. Has great hands and runs with a vengeance.


:2thumbsup
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/20101126-235857-pic-764372016_t607.jpg

Thomas Metthe/Reporter-News
Brownwood running back Stehl Ratliff (38) sprints past Borger defenders during the second quarter of the Lions' 35-6 win in the Region I-3A Div. II regional playoff game on Friday, Nov. 26, 2010, at Shotwell Stadium in Abilene.

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
I have no idea how "fast" Pope is but he's not as "quick" as Shipley.

Now that I'll agree with.

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
says who? I mean really none of us know that

Pope could possibly go neck and neck with him in a dead sprint, but to cover him on routes??? No way. Pope will look like a tall stick in an East Texas mud puddle.

[ILOVETHEGOONS!]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
Brownwood = Staying HOME next week

no, we don't live at Dallas Cowboy Stadium, so we will be traveling!
so sorry that you were confused about that.;)

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Old LB
Did you hear he has grown 6" and put on 20 pounds since the Wylie game, Boy is a BEAST! :eek:

Should be 6' 8" by the Carthage game, maybe 3.3 too!:D


Go Lions!!!!

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by garciap77
Should be 6' 8" by the Carthage game, maybe 3.3 too!:D


Go Lions!!!! I'm sayin 2.9 and 72"

[Dawgdaze]

I'm leaving for Dallas about 48 hours from now so we can teach your boys how to play football. Maybe next year you can take what you learned and play with the Big Dawgs. For now I think we are just going to let you guys stay on porch and watch.

Here kitty kitty!

[garciap77]

Originally posted by bobcat1
I'm sayin 2.9 and 72"

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I wonder what ROCKET is saying!!!:D

[hollywood]

Originally posted by garciap77
:2thumbsup
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/20101126-235857-pic-764372016_t607.jpg

Thomas Metthe/Reporter-News
Brownwood running back Stehl Ratliff (38) sprints past Borger defenders during the second quarter of the Lions' 35-6 win in the Region I-3A Div. II regional playoff game on Friday, Nov. 26, 2010, at Shotwell Stadium in Abilene.

How familiar is this going to look this Friday night? A big ole Bulldog D-linemen on the ground while Ratliff breaks a long run. Same color of uni's and everything! Nice Garciap77!!!

Ratliff- 6'0" 205 lbs of dynamite coming at the defense... "where's #80, I want to hit him!"

[Tin Cup]

Shipley will be open all night long unless there are at least 2 DBs on him. Same can probably said for a receiver or 2 from Carthage.

With a guy like Shipley, sometimes perfect coverage still isn't enough. Wow

[garciap77]

Anyone from Abilene that would like to go to this game PM me!

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by hollywood
Pope could possibly go neck and neck with him in a dead sprint, but to cover him on routes??? No way. Pope will look like a tall stick in an East Texas mud puddle.

I don't know about this Pope. But I know about his relative. The name Pope in Carthage is synonymous with pure athleticism. Anthony Pope was the best reciever to ever come through Carthage back in 1991 and 1992. We went undefeated to the State Championship in 1991 with Anthony Pope as our go to guy. He is still to date the best high school reciever I have ever seen. Then in basketball he set school records of 9 - 3 pointers in one game and went on to play for some college in a game that was broadcasted nationally on tv but I can't remember the team. He lit up the scoreboards there too. I am not sure of there relationship but if he is a Pope, he is related.

[BullBoy]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
With a guy like Shipley, sometimes perfect coverage still isn't enough. Wow :( This is very true.:( :D

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
Shipley will be open all night long unless there are at least 2 DBs on him. Same can probably said for a receiver or 2 from Carthage.

With a guy like Shipley, sometimes perfect coverage still isn't enough. Wow

Sure he'll be open but he can't throw the ball to himself. You O-line is small and very vulnerable to our D. Your QB isn't that mobile and we will eat him alive. When he starts getting pressure he tends to make errant passes. He will get lots of pressure Friday night.

[Old LB]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
Sure he'll be open but he can't throw the ball to himself. You O-line is small and very vulnerable to our D. Your QB isn't that mobile and we will eat him alive. When he starts getting pressure he tends to make errant passes. He will get lots of pressure Friday night.

Errant Passes? OKAY, why don't you look at some stats my friend? TD to interception ratio, completion percentage maybe.

[garciap77]

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/20100911-033248-pic-529776952_t607.jpg

[Old LB]

Originally posted by garciap77
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/20100911-033248-pic-529776952_t607.jpg

LOOK! Even the drill team thought they had that one. :D

[BaseballUmp]

Whoa I just voted and now the poll is:

Brownwood 77
Carthage 78

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Looks like BW is just a bunch of losers lol:D

[garciap77]

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/20100911-033248-pic-829075058_t607.jpg

Even the BW Coaches can jump! How are you going to answer to that Dawgdaze:D





;)

[BaseballUmp]

It's those nike air max's lol and it looks like he dropped his cheat sheet...

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by garciap77

Even the BW Coaches can jump! How are you going to answer to that Dawgdaze:D





;)

LOL. Dude's got moves. But your QB will be eating turf Friday night.

[BullBoy]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
LOL. Dude's got moves. And our QB will be eating turf Friday night. :confused:

[Rocket]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
I don't know about this Pope. But I know about his relative. The name Pope in Carthage is synonymous with pure athleticism. Anthony Pope was the best reciever to ever come through Carthage back in 1991 and 1992. We went undefeated to the State Championship in 1991 with Anthony Pope as our go to guy. He is still to date the best high school reciever I have ever seen. Then in basketball he set school records of 9 - 3 pointers in one game and went on to play for some college in a game that was broadcasted nationally on tv but I can't remember the team. He lit up the scoreboards there too. I am not sure of there relationship but if he is a Pope, he is related.

Do you kiss his rings too? LOL

Shipley will take his spot at best receiver you have ever seen on Friday.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by garciap77
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/20100911-033248-pic-529776952_t607.jpg

That is 10' in the air and perfectly timed. LOL You can't coach that, boys...

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
LOL. Dude's got moves. But your QB will be eating turf Friday night.

Every team has said the same thing. Next...

[BaseballUmp]

Originally posted by Rocket
Do you kiss his rings too? LOL



You of all people lol

[Rocket]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
I hear Shipley has a 51 inch vertical and runs a 4.1 in the 40 so I doubt the guy can cover him. :rolleyes:

He didn't need that to burn Snyder's defense.4.6 and 24" would have done the trick. LOL

[BullBoy]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
I don't know about this Pope. But I know about his relative. The name Pope in Carthage is synonymous with pure athleticism. Anthony Pope was the best reciever to ever come through Carthage back in 1991 and 1992. We went undefeated to the State Championship in 1991 with Anthony Pope as our go to guy. He is still to date the best high school reciever I have ever seen. Then in basketball he set school records of 9 - 3 pointers in one game and went on to play for some college in a game that was broadcasted nationally on tv but I can't remember the team. He lit up the scoreboards there too. I am not sure of there relationship but if he is a Pope, he is related.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u38/pup42512n/pope.jpg
THIS IS THE ONLY POPE CAPABLE OF STOPPING SHIPLEY IN HIS TRACKS! IF THIS ISN'T THE GUY THAT YALL KEEP TALKING ABOUT THEN YALL ARE IN DEEP DEEP TROUBLE MY FRIEND!!!

(sorry for the caps lock.)

[pancho villa]

Carthage wins this one their kids are to mentally tough for the Lions. Also they have won back to back state championships and B-wood is a one hit wonder this year. Bulldogs 35 Lions 14

[hollywood]

Originally posted by pancho villa
Carthage wins this one their kids are to mentally tough for the Lions. Also they have won back to back state championships and B-wood is a one hit wonder this year. Bulldogs 35 Lions 14

KOO KOO!

[bwdlionfan]

Originally posted by pancho villa
Carthage wins this one their kids are to mentally tough for the Lions. Also they have won back to back state championships and B-wood is a one hit wonder this year. Bulldogs 35 Lions 14

One hit wonder?

4A state semi finalists 8 years ago

4A state quarterfinalists 4 years ago

Either of those teams would have challenged for a 3A title (and possibly won it those years)

If anyone is a one hit wonder, Carthage is a two hit wonder... You don't lead the classification in victories by winning 7 titles back in the day and falling apart. You achieve that by keeping on winning, year in year out... titles or not, this program wins.

[wimbo_pro]

There is NO WAY Shipley is 4.1 in the 40. That would make him WORLD CLASS SPEED...Olympic level. Please tell me I missed the humor that was intended here?

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by Rocket
That is 10' in the air and perfectly timed. LOL You can't coach that, boys...

Just shows me your Quarterback can't hit the broadside of a barn if he overthrew him that high. It wasn't like there was another defender anywhere beside that one.

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by hollywood
Every team has said the same thing. Next...

Yep and the best team you played this year was Brideport. We mean it.

[Tin Cup]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
Just shows me your Quarterback can't hit the broadside of a barn if he overthrew him that high. It wasn't like there was another defender anywhere beside that one.

For the love of all that is man, it was a jump ball in the corner of the endzone. Our QB is 10x more accurate than yours. Check the stats if you need a bit of help

[BullBoy]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
Yep and the best team you played this year was Brideport. We mean it. it's Bridgeport, NOT Brideport.

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by BullBoy
it's Bridgeport, NOT Brideport.

It's OUTport. and you're married to Brownwood so it's right.

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
For the love of all that is man, it was a jump ball in the corner of the endzone. Our QB is 10x more accurate than yours. Check the stats if you need a bit of help

I told you. You stats don't mean anything. You have played no one but one good team in Bridgeport and I have studied Bridgeport in the past. They are a descent team but they are nowhere on the same wavelength as Carthage. The teams you play and your stats would be like Carthage playing Gladewater on our schedule every game.

[BullBoy]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
It's OUTport. no, i'm pretty sure it's Bridgeport.

[wimbo_pro]

Rocket is right about one thing for sure...you can NOT teach what Shipley has going. Top notch player.

[Tin Cup]

Stephenville could beat Carthage.

[Old LB]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
Stephenville could beat Carthage.

LIKE A DRUM

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
Yep and the best team you played this year was Brideport. We mean it.

Stephenville.

But, Carthage beat Henderson by 10 pts who beat Alvarado by 7 pts who beat Bridgeport by 8 pts? Brownwood beat Bridgeport by 30 pts. Hmm... :p Carthage and Bridgeport would be a good game. ;)

[BullBoy]

Originally posted by hollywood
Stephenville.

But, Carthage beat Henderson by 10 pts who beat Alvarado by 7 pts who beat Bridgeport by 8 pts? Brownwood beat Bridgeport by 30 pts. Hmm... :p Carthage and Bridgeport would be a good game. ;) we would of gave them a run for their money.:D

[garciap77]

Originally posted by BaseballUmp
It's those nike air max's lol and it looks like he dropped his cheat sheet...

It's not a cheat sheet, it's ref money!LOL
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/20100911-033248-pic-829075058_t607copy.jpg


;)

[hollywood]

Originally posted by BullBoy
we would of gave them a run for their money.:D

I honestly think you would. Bridgeport was good! Big, had speed, and could tackle very well. QB was a gamer. I think Carthage and Bridgeport would match up very well. Carthage has advantage at LB and DB but Bridgeport has advantage at QB and WR's. OL and DL are a wash.

[garciap77]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
There is NO WAY Shipley is 4.1 in the 40. That would make him WORLD CLASS SPEED...Olympic level. Please tell me I missed the humor that was intended here?

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/shutup-1-1.jpg


No one said 4.1, but someone said 2.9!LOL

[ccmom]

Originally posted by hollywood
I honestly think you would. Bridgeport was good! Big, had speed, and could tackle very well. QB was a gamer. I think Carthage and Bridgeport would match up very well. Carthage has advantage at LB and DB but Bridgeport has advantage at QB and WR's. OL and DL are a wash.

And you know this because? :confused:

Oh, I forgot, because you "know things"!! :taunt:

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by garciap77
It's not a cheat sheet, it's ref money!LOL
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/20100911-033248-pic-829075058_t607copy.jpg


;) I like the way your mind works. LMAO!

[R1Editor]

nm

[95mustang]

Originally posted by ccmom
And you know this because? :confused:

Oh, I forgot, because you "know things"!! :taunt:

No, he knows it because he is kin to RM. :D

[Chillfan]

After watching some of the video of Brownood, I like Carthages chances even better. Brownwood is underestimating Carthage and its gonna bite em.

Brownwood has NOT played the same level of compeition.

This site is gonna lose half its members when this game is over.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by Chillfan
After watching some of the video of Brownood, I like Carthages chances even better. Brownwood is underestimating Carthage and its gonna bite em.

Brownwood has NOT played the same level of compeition.

This site is gonna lose half its members when this game is over.

And since Carthage beat Argyle and claim that Argyle is better than Brownwood, Carthage will be underestimating Brownwood. LOL

You do realize Brownwood is the undisputed #1 team in the state, right? And our power rating, which is based on opponents and all kinds of numbers is WAY higher than Carthage?

Carthage gives up 26 points a game to way less offense than Brownwood....get your popcorn ready, Chilly boy...

It's funny how we watched film on Carthage and thought the same thing...:rolleyes:

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Chillfan
After watching some of the video of Brownood, I like Carthages chances even better.

Brownood doesn't have a chance against Carthage or anyone else for that matter. LOL

[rolldawgs]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
Our QB is 10x more accurate than yours

This has been such a disappointing week in terms of trying to find a BW poster with even an ounce of credibility. A large majority of you have stated that you've never even seen Carthage, yet you continue to say things like "our ____ is wayyyyy better than yours.

THANK YOU TXBROADCASTER for offering excellent observations as someone who has actually seen both teams.

I will not say that "our QB is waaayyyy better than yours", I'll simply offer some reading material that at least offers a small perspective from a credible source. You may prefer that I come back with "Oh yeah?? well, our QB is 20X better than yours, so na na na na!", so I'm sorry if I disappoint you as well.
----------------------------

Current Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett was coached by current Carthage head coach Scott Surratt when Surratt was at Texas High. Mallett was ranked the #2 HS QB prospect in the country by rivals.com.
Despite his history with Ryan, Coach Surratt has publicly (TV interview) stated that "Anthony Morgan is the most accurate quarterback I have ever coached."

I'm in a quandry now; do I believe Surratt or Tin Cup?

:thinking:

[Old LB]

Originally posted by rolldawgs
This has been such a disappointing week in terms of trying to find a BW poster with even an ounce of credibility. A large majority of you have stated that you've never even seen Carthage, yet you continue to say things like "our ____ is wayyyyy better than yours.

THANK YOU TXBROADCASTER for offering excellent observations as someone who has actually seen both teams.

I will not say that "our QB is waaayyyy better than yours", I'll simply offer some reading material that at least offers a small perspective from a credible source. You may prefer that I come back with "Oh yeah?? well, our QB is 20X better than yours, so na na na na!", so I'm sorry if I disappoint you as well.
----------------------------

Current Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett was coached by current Carthage head coach Scott Surratt when Surratt was at Texas High. Mallett was ranked the #2 HS QB prospect in the country by rivals.com.
Despite his history with Ryan, Coach Surratt has publicly (TV interview) stated that "Anthony Morgan is the most accurate quarterback I have ever coached."

I'm in a quandry now; do I believe Surratt or Tin Cup?

:thinking:

This has already been covered this year to great length. What would you expect him to say? There should be some stats somewhere that you could post, since you are the FACTS POLICE. What are the stats for your QB?

[bwdlionfan]

Originally posted by rolldawgs
This has been such a disappointing week in terms of trying to find a BW poster with even an ounce of credibility. A large majority of you have stated that you've never even seen Carthage, yet you continue to say things like "our ____ is wayyyyy better than yours.

THANK YOU TXBROADCASTER for offering excellent observations as someone who has actually seen both teams.

I will not say that "our QB is waaayyyy better than yours", I'll simply offer some reading material that at least offers a small perspective from a credible source. You may prefer that I come back with "Oh yeah?? well, our QB is 20X better than yours, so na na na na!", so I'm sorry if I disappoint you as well.
----------------------------

Current Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett was coached by current Carthage head coach Scott Surratt when Surratt was at Texas High. Mallett was ranked the #2 HS QB prospect in the country by rivals.com.
Despite his history with Ryan, Coach Surratt has publicly (TV interview) stated that "Anthony Morgan is the most accurate quarterback I have ever coached."

I'm in a quandry now; do I believe Surratt or Tin Cup?

:thinking:

Coach Shipley also compared Graylon Brown's ability to Stephen McGee's(3rd string QB with the Dallas Cowboys). He coached him at Burnet.

[RoyceTTU]

Originally posted by bwdlionfan
Coach Shipley also compared Graylon Brown's ability to Stephen McGee's. 3rd string QB with the Dallas Cowboys. He coached him at Burnet.


Originally posted by rolldawgs
Coach Surratt has publicly (TV interview) stated that "Anthony Morgan is the most accurate quarterback I have ever coached."



Our Coach is Smarter than yours :D :D :D

[bwdlionfan]

Originally posted by RoyceTTU
Our Coach is Smarter than yours :D :D :D

But their coach runs fasters... durn east Texas

[RoyceTTU]

Originally posted by RoyceTTU
Our Coach is Smarter than yours :D :D :D

He's even the front runner for every coaching job opening in the country. IN ANY CLASSIFICATION !!!! :doh: :doh: :doh:

[RoyceTTU]

Originally posted by bwdlionfan
But their coach runs fasters... durn east Texas


Our Coach jumps higher!!!!


grrrrr
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[rolldawgs]

Originally posted by bwdlionfan
Coach Shipley also compared Graylon Brown's ability to Stephen McGee's(3rd string QB with the Dallas Cowboys). He coached him at Burnet.

I couldn't agree more; the kid looks outstanding on video and has the stats to show for his efforts.

The only thing I can't stay quiet about is a statement like
"our QB is 10X more accurate than yours".

[Tin Cup]

Please post the Carthage QBs numbers. Thanks.

[Old LB]

Originally posted by rolldawgs
This has been such a disappointing week in terms of trying to find a BW poster with even an ounce of credibility. A large majority of you have stated that you've never even seen Carthage, yet you continue to say things like "our ____ is wayyyyy better than yours.

THANK YOU TXBROADCASTER for offering excellent observations as someone who has actually seen both teams.

I will not say that "our QB is waaayyyy better than yours", I'll simply offer some reading material that at least offers a small perspective from a credible source. You may prefer that I come back with "Oh yeah?? well, our QB is 20X better than yours, so na na na na!", so I'm sorry if I disappoint you as well.
----------------------------

Current Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett was coached by current Carthage head coach Scott Surratt when Surratt was at Texas High. Mallett was ranked the #2 HS QB prospect in the country by rivals.com.
Despite his history with Ryan, Coach Surratt has publicly (TV interview) stated that "Anthony Morgan is the most accurate quarterback I have ever coached."

I'm in a quandry now; do I believe Surratt or Tin Cup?

:thinking:

Graylon Brown 225of337 for 3723 yds, 47 TD 6 INT

Morgan 211of336 for 3144 yds, 30 TD 11 INT

Hope you feel better now. :D

[Tin Cup]

I only said that our qb was 10x better bc y'all said he'd be on the ground running for his life making mistakes. Don't see it happening sorry I'm not in love with Carthage.

[BwdLions]

Friday night can't get here soon enough for me. :mad:

[RoyceTTU]

RollDawgs is the fun police!!!!! :D :D :D

http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr79/hanesian/fun-police.jpg

[rolldawgs]

Originally posted by Old LB
since you are the FACTS POLICE.

I didn't argue a single fact of any kind; only a non-factual statement.

I don't have Morgan's stats in hand, but I"m sure maxpreps or several other sources will have them. I'm not a big stats guy, but since you asked, I'll try to find them for you.

Through five games of the playoffs last year as a Junior, he was throwing at an 83% completion ratio. That'a ancient history now, though, so it means nothing - I decided about then to quit looking at numers and just enjoy the show on the field.....

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Old LB
Morgan 211of336 for 3144 yds, 30 TD 11 INT


11 INT's???:eek:

That's almost an INT per game. Our defense is going to have a field day and at least 2 INT's. I've been 100% accurate on this.

Brownwood's D has 30 INT's on the season. That's over 2 per game.

I like this match up more everyday!
;)

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Old LB
Graylon Brown 225of337 for 3723 yds, 47 TD 6 INT

Morgan 211of336 for 3144 yds, 30 TD 11 INT

Hope you feel better now. :D

Both of those stats are pretty impressive. The interceptions stat is VERY impressive. For Brown, that means for every 56 passes, one get intercepted. Or basically, one interception ever other game (actually, a bit less than that). Wow.

[rolldawgs]

Thanks OL LB for posting the stats and saving me the trouble.

The fact police pic is awesome; well done!

[Old LB]

Originally posted by rolldawgs
Thanks OL LB for posting the stats and saving me the trouble.

The fact police pic is awesome; well done!

You do realize two QBs can't acheive those numbers without outstanding OL play, right?

[ccmom]

Originally posted by Old LB
Graylon Brown 225of337 for 3723 yds, 47 TD 6 INT

Morgan 211of336 for 3144 yds, 30 TD 11 INT

Hope you feel better now. :D


Wow...impressive stats for both. :clap: :clap:

[RoyceTTU]

Originally posted by rolldawgs
Thanks OL LB for posting the stats and saving me the trouble.

The fact police pic is awesome; well done!


Thanks!!!

It will be nice not to have to chase the QB all over the field. We faced a bunch of those this year. As for you, you don't get the same fate. Graylon runs well, he isn't the fastest out there and rarely out-runs the defense, but 10 here 15 there sure makes it nice when he actually runs it.

Graylon Brown 90-633, 10 TDs

[RoyceTTU]

Originally posted by Old LB
You do realize two QBs can't acheive those numbers without outstanding OL play, right?

What do you know. You just an OLD LB. :D :D :D

http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/13255000/13255136.jpg




Originally posted by ccmom
Wow...impressive stats for both. :clap: :clap:

AND CCMOM IS A CHICK !!!!! :D

[rolldawgs]

The vintage player pic reminds me of something my father (83 yrs) told me in the stands this past Friday night. It was getting cold and I told him he should cover his head, so he pulls a ski cap from the waistband of his pants and puts it on. I said "you keep that in your waistband?"

And he says...yep, that's where I used to keep my helmet when I was on the sidelines waiting to get back in".

And we think players today are tough? :)

[Old LB]

Originally posted by rolldawgs
The vintage player pic reminds me of something my father (83 yrs) told me in the stands this past Friday night. It was getting cold and I told him he should cover his head, so he pulls a ski cap from the waistband of his pants and puts it on. I said "you keep that in your waistband?"

And he says...yep, that's where I used to keep my helmet when I was on the sidelines waiting to get back in".

And we think players today are tough? :)

Some of the welds on my facemask were broke at the end of my senior year so coach gave it to me to keep. Glad I had a facemask, I'm way to pretty to play without one. :D

[BwdLion73]

Originally posted by rolldawgs
The vintage player pic reminds me of something my father (83 yrs) told me in the stands this past Friday night. It was getting cold and I told him he should cover his head, so he pulls a ski cap from the waistband of his pants and puts it on. I said "you keep that in your waistband?"

And he says...yep, that's where I used to keep my helmet when I was on the sidelines waiting to get back in".

And we think players today are tough? :)

:clap: :D

[rolldawgs]

Originally posted by Old LB
You do realize two QBs can't acheive those numbers without outstanding OL play, right?

Agree 100%. If both QB's have plenty of time to throw Friday night,
there's no telling what the final score will be. Even if pressure comes from either team, it's not like these quarterbacks are going to sit in the pocket and take the sack.

[hollywood]

Originally posted by rolldawgs
Agree 100%. If both QB's have plenty of time to throw Friday night,
there's no telling what the final score will be. Even if pressure comes from either team, it's not like these quarterbacks are going to sit in the pocket and take the sack.

In the words from the famous 262wu2 "It's going to be a 7 on 7 extravaganza!"
http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/brownwoodbulletin.com/content/tncms/assets/editorial/e/bc/db4/ebcdb458-ab61-11df-ace0-001cc4c03286-revisions/4c6cdab29b5aa.preview-300.jpghttp://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/brownwoodbulletin.com/content/tncms/assets/editorial/0/75/078/075078d8-8726-11df-92de-001cc4c002e0-revisions/4c3010556b3f0.preview-300.jpg

[UPanIN]

I have to go with Carthage to win this one. Them East Texas boys are fast, quick and tough.:1popcorn:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by RoyceTTU
Our "Coaches" are Smarter than yours :D :D :D

And they can jump higher too!:D:D:D
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/20100911-033248-pic-829075058_t607copy.jpg

:p

[hollywood]

Originally posted by UPanIN
I have to go with Carthage to win this one. Them East Texas boys are fast, quick and tough.:1popcorn:

Thanks for your guess. Any, substance behind your thoughts besides "Them East Texas boys are fast, quick, and tough"?

[Rocket]

Originally posted by rolldawgs
Agree 100%. If both QB's have plenty of time to throw Friday night,
there's no telling what the final score will be. Even if pressure comes from either team, it's not like these quarterbacks are going to sit in the pocket and take the sack.

Should be a great matchup of good QBs for sure.

[BEAST]

Originally posted by hollywood
Thanks for your guess. Any, substance behind your thoughts besides "Them East Texas boys are fast, quick, and tough"?

Hollywood, its real easy to see why Carthage will kill Brownwood. Out here is west Texas, our football players dont run. They all speed walk on the field. Nobody hits either. They just kind of hug and fall down.

Sick of hearing East Texas speed..........

I promise you this, you will respect our speed when the game is over. Also, we are a very physical team. Get ready boys, we gonna hit ya in the chops I promise.




BEAST

[LoboesWT]

Originally posted by UPanIN
I have to go with Carthage to win this one. Them East Texas boys are fast, quick and tough.:1popcorn:

Are you serious they are fast, quick, and tough. I have not heard that one time on this thread. Are you sure they are not just fast cause that what Region II is known for.:D No reply necessary.

[Louie13]

But do they have HEART?!
:D :D :D

[LoboesWT]

Originally posted by Louie13
But do they have HEART?!
:D :D :D

Hey now all the Heart was used last week, Hype surgically removed it!

[Tin Cup]

Heart was attacked! Just like Carthage this week :D

[UPanIN]

Originally posted by hollywood
Thanks for your guess. Any, substance behind your thoughts besides "Them East Texas boys are fast, quick, and tough"?

Just :stirpot: boys. It don't take much to get you Brownwood boys :mad: & talkin.

It's going to be a sad day in BW but I'm sure Carthage will be willing to send some counselor's over your way after the game.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by UPanIN
Just :stirpot: boys. It don't take much to get you Brownwood boys :mad: & talkin.

It's going to be a sad day in BW but I'm sure Carthage will be willing to send some counselor's over your way after the game.

It's funny. No matter how you look at it, no matter the poll, Carthage is the underdog, not the top dog. ;)

[ronwx5x]

Originally posted by garciap77
And they can jump higher too!:D:D:D
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/20100911-033248-pic-829075058_t607copy.jpg

:p

That coach must be about 7'2"! Isn't Jaxon Shipley 6'? The coach looks over a foot taller. Wow!!!!!

[RoyceTTU]

Originally posted by ronwx5x
That coach must be about 7'2"! Isn't Jaxon Shipley 6'? The coach looks over a foot taller. Wow!!!!!

I wish someone got a pic of Coach Shipley doing the jump/bump(or whatever it is called) with a player last week. It was comical from the sidelines. :D :D :D

[Chillfan]

Originally posted by Rocket
It's funny. No matter how you look at it, no matter the poll, Carthage is the underdog, not the top dog. ;)

I see it a little different Rocket. If you consider Carthage has back to back titles, I think BW is the underdog.

Carthage is the top dog until somebody knocks them off.

Surratt knows how to win big games.

[garciap77]

Originally posted by ronwx5x
That coach must be about 7'2"! Isn't Jaxon Shipley 6'? The coach looks over a foot taller. Wow!!!!!

It's all done with smoke and mirrors!
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/20100911-033248-pic-829075058_t607copy233.jpg

;)

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Chillfan
I see it a little different Rocket. If you consider Carthage has back to back titles, I think BW is the underdog.

Carthage is the top dog until somebody knocks them off.

Surratt knows how to win big games.

Shouldn't you be worried about Henderson!:D



;)

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Chillfan
I see it a little different Rocket. If you consider Carthage has back to back titles, I think BW is the underdog.

Carthage is the top dog until somebody knocks them off.

Surratt knows how to win big games.

LOL! Carthage got knocked off twice already this season. And it's about to be a third! You have know idea what's coming Carthages way. Will you be getting updates during the Henderson/CH game?

[garciap77]

Originally posted by hollywood
LOL! Carthage got knocked off twice already this season. And it's about to be a third! You have know idea what's coming Carthages way. Will you be getting updates during the Henderson/CH game?

Those were not knock offs, they are know as East Texas "FLUKES"! That is the only Three-Peat they will get this year! 3 East Texas "Flukes"!LOL





;)

[Rocket]

Originally posted by Chillfan
I see it a little different Rocket. If you consider Carthage has back to back titles, I think BW is the underdog.

Carthage is the top dog until somebody knocks them off.

Surratt knows how to win big games.

You might want to let Harris, Maxpreps, and Pigskin know about that...oh and the AP...LOL

[oldtownag]

What about 3ADL and Smoaky?

[Tin Cup]

Didn't Stephenville receive more votes than Brownwood?

Respect will be earned soon, very soon

[Rocket]

Originally posted by oldtownag
What about 3ADL and Smoaky?

Homers and Haters...Brownwood has done nothing but play outstanding football all season long. There is no reason they shouldn't be the favorite and have more votes. The Haters can have the Downlow Poll... Not like anybody who votes on it knows anything about football anyway...(ie. Garcia and skins4life)

[oldtownag]

Originally posted by Rocket
The Haters can have the Downlow Poll... Not like anybody who votes on it knows anything about football anyway...(ie. Garcia and skins4life)

I am sure you voted so I guess that is partially accurate.

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Rocket
Homers and Haters...Brownwood has done nothing but play outstanding football all season long. There is no reason they shouldn't be the favorite and have more votes. The Haters can have the Downlow Poll... Not like anybody who votes on it knows anything about football anyway...(ie. Garcia and skins4life)

Hey! I voted for Brownwood! YOU SpongeBob:http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/RocketBoySponge.jpg

;)

[Rocket]

Originally posted by oldtownag
I am sure you voted so I guess that is partially accurate.

And you....you blind, homer...

[Rocket]

Originally posted by garciap77
Hey! I voted for Brownwood! YOU SpongeBob:http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/RocketBoySponge.jpg

;)

LOL I saw what you named this picture! RocketBoySponge!

[oldtownag]

Originally posted by Rocket
And you....you blind, homer...

Yes, I am a homer!

Are you?

[BwdLions]

Originally posted by garciap77
Those were not knock offs, they are know as East Texas "FLUKES"! That is the only Three-Peat they will get this year! 3 East Texas "Flukes"!LOL





;)

You're too funny garcia. :D

[garciap77]

Originally posted by BwdLions
You're too funny garcia. :D

It's all in fun!:)

[RPF2666]

Originally posted by Rocket
Homers and Haters...Brownwood has done nothing but play outstanding football all season long. There is no reason they shouldn't be the favorite and have more votes. The Haters can have the Downlow Poll... Not like anybody who votes on it knows anything about football anyway...(ie. Garcia and skins4life)

I'm not a homer or hater... and I voted for Carthage (if I could find it, I called them as the team to beat about Week O). Why? Just like the man said, until someone takes it ,and Brownwood may, Carthage IS the to
'TOP DOG'!

[Tin Cup]

Originally posted by RPF2666
I'm not a homer or hater... and I voted for Carthage (if I could find it, I called them as the team to beat about Week O). Why? Just like the man said, until someone takes it ,and Brownwood may, Carthage IS the to
'TOP DOG'!

Good post. Can't argue with that

[RPF2666]

Brownwood has proven to be excellent this year, and Carthage is well, Carthage. Maybe the long pedigree isn't there, but the short one is definately impressive.

2 years ago they beat a good Celina team. One turnover was really the difference. I see this game being similar. There will likely be A play that most savvy watchers (someone can explain it to Rocket, on the ride home) will look back at and say, 'what if'!

[BEAST]

Originally posted by oldtownag
Yes, I am a homer!

Are you?

Serious question, does Pope play WR?





BEAST

[BEAST]

Originally posted by RPF2666
Brownwood has proven to be excellent this year, and Carthage is well, Carthage. Maybe the long pedigree isn't there, but the short one is definately impressive.

2 years ago they beat a good Celina team. One turnover was really the difference. I see this game being similar. There will likely be A play that most savvy watchers (someone can explain it to Rocket, on the ride home) will look back at and say, 'what if'!

My friend, I have a really good feeling we will be making plans for the state title game on the way home.




BEAST

[oldtownag]

Originally posted by BEAST
Serious question, does Pope play WR?







BEAST

Yes, he alternates in at WR.

[BEAST]

Oh my. Beware #25.




BEAST

[Chillfan]

Its a good thing this Carthage team is stacked across the board with talent. Shipley is in for a fight.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by RoyceTTU
What do you know. You just an OLD LB. :D :D :D

http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/13255000/13255136.jpg





AND CCMOM IS A CHICK !!!!! :D Is that pic from back when Brownwood won their 7th State Championship?:p

[BEAST]

Originally posted by Chillfan
Its a good thing this Carthage team is stacked across the board with talent. Shipley is in for a fight.

Weve got more than just JShip. He's just one piece of the puzzle.




BEAST

[BEAST]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Is that pic from back when Brownwood won their 7th State Championship?:p

No. That when y'all TIED for yalls CLASS B title.




BEAST

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Rocket
It's funny. No matter how you look at it, no matter the poll, Carthage is the underdog, not the top dog. ;) :tisk: :tisk: :tisk:

Who advances to the State Championship game?
You have already voted on this poll.
Brownwood (14-0) 80 48.78%
Carthage (12-2) 84 51.22%
Total: 164 votes 100%
:eek: :eek: :eek:

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by BEAST
No. That when y'all TIED for yalls CLASS B title.




BEAST A title nonetheless. Try on 68 in a row. It don't matter the classification either. 68 in a row is tough!

[RPF2666]

Originally posted by BEAST
My friend, I have a really good feeling we will be making plans for the state title game on the way home.




BEAST

Quite possibly...either way, please explain the 'game changer' to Rocky! ;)

[Txbroadcaster]

http://www.meridix.com/mbp/archive/radio/index.php?liveid=sportsgram8&recordid=15848

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by BEAST
My friend, I have a really good feeling we will be making plans for the state title game on the way home.




BEAST

I have a really good feeling you will b3 looking for a bucket to puke in on the way home!! Good luck to Brownwood Lions. Earn your respect don't demand it. Every Dawg has his day, but it won't be Friday!

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by bobcat1
A title nonetheless. Try on 68 in a row. It don't matter the classification either. 68 in a row is tough!

Isn't that the State Record for wins in a row?

[91 lion]

Originally posted by bobcat1
A title nonetheless. Try on 68 in a row. It don't matter the classification either. 68 in a row is tough!

68.....thats impressive bobcat1!!!.....no matter how many 1a and 2a teams you beat:D :D

[RPF2666]

Yes it is...

[91 lion]

Originally posted by RPF2666
I'm not a homer or hater... and I voted for Carthage (if I could find it, I called them as the team to beat about Week O). Why? Just like the man said, until someone takes it ,and Brownwood may, Carthage IS the to
'TOP DOG'!

Good Post.

[BEAST]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
I have a really good feeling you will b3 looking for a bucket to puke in on the way home!! Good luck to Brownwood Lions. Earn your respect don't demand it. Every Dawg has his day, but it won't be Friday!

You are exactly right. Friday will not be the Dawgs day. It will be as this year has been, the day of the Lion.




BEAST

[Jauch]

Originally posted by RPF2666
I'm not a homer or hater... and I voted for Carthage (if I could find it, I called them as the team to beat about Week O). Why? Just like the man said, until someone takes it ,and Brownwood may, Carthage IS the to
'TOP DOG'!

I just don't see Carthage as TOP DOG anymore, maybe at beginning of season with zero losses but after your two losses top dog status is gone, just as in college ball, doubt you stay #1 in BCS with a loss.

[Dawgdaze]

Hourly forecast from the Weather Channel for Friday is only going up to 64 degrees partly sunny at 3 p.m. and 63 degrees at 4p.m.
That's as far as they go right now on hourly forecast. I don't know about Brownwood, but it's freakin' cold here in Carthage right now!

[RPF2666]

Originally posted by Jauch
I just don't see Carthage as TOP DOG anymore, maybe at beginning of season with zero losses but after your two losses top dog status is gone, just as in college ball, doubt you stay #1 in BCS with a loss.

You ARE kidding, right? The beauty of this whole thing is it IS NOT DI College where something other than what happens on the field has a HUGE impact on who ultimately plays for the PRIZE!

It is played off, and Carthage IS the team to beat, until beaten...PERIOD!

[garciap77]

Year of The Lions!
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/LionHead.jpg

Go Lions!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Jauch]

Originally posted by RPF2666
You ARE kidding, right? The beauty of this whole thing is it IS NOT DI College where something other than what happens on the field has a HUGE impact on who ultimately plays for the PRIZE!

It is played off, and Carthage IS the team to beat, until beaten...PERIOD!

Not sure why you think I'm kidding you, so not the case.... don't quite understand your statement "until beaten", they have been beaten twice this season, so were is the logic?

[Tin Cup]

How sweet it will be to beat last year's champ, and the team that bounced us last year (possibly, wimbo) to win our 8th star. Get it done lions

[RoyceTTU]

Originally posted by garciap77
Year of The Lions!
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/LionHead.jpg

Go Lions!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:

That is a wicked cool pic!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by 91 lion
68.....thats impressive bobcat1!!!.....no matter how many 1a and 2a teams you beat:D :D You are one funny guy. I hope you are in a good mood Saturday morning.:cool:

[Chillfan]

Originally posted by Jauch
Not sure why you think I'm kidding you, so not the case.... don't quite understand your statement "until beaten", they have been beaten twice this season, so were is the logic?

If Brownwood would have played the same competition, they would have the L's. You have yet to play a east texas team but your time is comin.

[Chillfan]

Originally posted by Chillfan
If Brownwood would have played the same competition, they would have the L's. You have yet to play a east texas team but your time is comin.

Oops sorry. Let me rephrase.

If Shipley would have played the same competition, they would have the L's.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by garciap77
Year of The Lions!
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/LionHead.jpg

Go Lions!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:


Originally posted by RoyceTTU
That is a wicked cool pic!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: I agree. If I was from Brownwood, I would use that Picture. That is way too cool.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by garciap77
Year of The Lions!
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/LionHead.jpg

Go Lions!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:

That is the coolest pic of the year!

[garciap77]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
That is the coolest pic of the year!

I like this one better!
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/07n1a0.jpg



;)

[Jauch]

What i do know is, d@mn this is gonna be a great game for both teams

[RoyceTTU]

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/26000/Lion-26462.jpg


RUN EAST TEXAS!!!! RUN!!!!! THE LIONS ARE COMING!!!!

[BEAST]

Originally posted by Chillfan
Oops sorry. Let me rephrase.

If Shipley would have played the same competition, they would have the L's.

Nope. We would be 14-0. Stay focused on Shipley. You will suffer the same fate all the others did. He'll get his no matter what you do. It's the others you better focus on. How many times have I said that this year?? Good lord...




BEAST

[Dawgdaze]

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/50/32735-cowardly_lion.jpg

It'll be okay lions! There's always next year!

[Dawgdaze]

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/85726/85726,1225482510,1/stock-photo-english-bulldog-wearing-princess-crown-or-tiara-isolated-on-white-background-19773553.jpg

Come and take it Baby!! WE GOT THE HARDWARE (TWICE)

[RoyceTTU]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
http://www.pollsb.com/photos/50/32735-cowardly_lion.jpg

It'll be okay lions! There's always next year!

Of coarse we will let you be on our bandwagon next week!!!

http://static-p4.fotolia.com/jpg/00/20/03/07/400_F_20030708_hnJCDxD2B3ItTFe9p2U387YLt9rJyJ0V.jp g

[Dawgdaze]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2009/10/dog_eating_cat33.jpg

Sick 'EM DAWGS!!!

[91 lion]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
http://www.meridix.com/mbp/archive/radio/index.php?liveid=sportsgram8&recordid=15848


Solid show!
:clap: :clap: :clap:

[91 lion]

Originally posted by bobcat1
You are one funny guy. I hope you are in a good mood Saturday morning.:cool: :cool:

[RoyceTTU]

http://shavarross.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/English-Bulldog-Watching-TV.jpg

I heard FSSW is showing the game next week. Enjoy!!!! :D

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by RoyceTTU
http://shavarross.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/English-Bulldog-Watching-TV.jpg

I heard FSSW is showing the game next week. Enjoy!!!! :D

Yeah too bad you won't get to see it!

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs46/i/2009/196/c/4/IT__S_NOT_A_DEAD_LION_XD_by_Zanten.jpg

[bwdlionfan]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
Yeah too bad you won't get to see it!http://www.sanparks.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/dead-lion-300x200.jpg

You're right... none of us will get to see the FSSW broadcast, we'll be watching the Lions live

[ccmom]

Originally posted by RoyceTTU
http://shavarross.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/English-Bulldog-Watching-TV.jpg

I heard FSSW is showing the game next week. Enjoy!!!! :D Hey I kinda like that pic....kinda :(

[91 lion]

Originally posted by Chillfan
If Brownwood would have played the same competition, they would have the L's. You have yet to play a east texas team but your time is comin.

Chill....you are sitting pretty now, but your success this year came against a banged up Carthage team, that would probably get the best of you, if there was a rematch.

You were also taken to the limit by an Athens team that played NOBODY, leading up to yalls 3 point game.

Athens opponents:

Two 2 win teams
Two 3 win teams
Two 4 win teams
Two games against the same 5 win team (Diboll)

Athens beat Lorena.....but Kennedale beat them too...handily...28-14
Kennedale was destroyed by Snyder 41-7
...and you know what Brownwood did to Snyder.....61-20:cool:

None of this really matters.....but don't bring up "competition", unless you actually play some.

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by 91 lion
Chill....you are sitting pretty now, but your success this year came against a banged up Carthage team, that would probably get the best of you, if there was a rematch.

You were also taken to the limit by an Athens team that played NOBODY, leading up to yalls 3 point game.

Athens opponents:

Two 2 win teams
Two 3 win teams
Two 4 win teams
Two games against the same 5 win team (Diboll)

Athens beat Lorena.....but Kennedale beat them too...handily...28-14
Kennedale was destroyed by Snyder 41-7
...and you know what Brownwood did to Snyder.....61-20:cool:

None of this really matters.....but don't bring up "competition", unless you actually play some.

You do know Athens went 3 deep in the playoffs don't you?

[91 lion]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
You do know Athens went 3 deep in the playoffs don't you?

Of course I do.....they actually went 4 deep......but thats the point im making.

In the playoffs, they played:
Diboll (5-6)
Lorena- a team that lost to Kennedale by 14 and struggled with Gatesville (1 point game).......BWD beat Gatesville by 40
Royal-I give them credit for beating a decent Royal team
......but then they got thumped by 30 by Coldspring

so their run, to me, wasnt that impressive.....they beat 8 teams with losing records

[bwdlionfan]

Actual facts to look at... and of course these can even be twisted and turned because they are scores between common opponents. I looked at 4 scenarios where we have links between our common opponents (there are more but I just did the first 4 I found linked)... Advantage Brownwood in 2 of them, advantage Carthage in 2 of them:

Common Links 1:

gainesville (9) > lake worth
madison (21) > gainesville
carthage (29) > madison
bottom line: carthage is 59 pts better than lake worth

bridgeport (42) > lake worth
brownwood (30) > bridgeport
bottom line: brownwood is 72 points better than lake worth

Common Links 2:

lovejoy (28) > wylie
arygle (3) > lovejoy
carthage (17) > argyle
bottom line: carthage 48 points better than wylie

bottom line: brownwood beat wylie by 38 (could have been much worse)

Common Links 3:

iowa park (7) > mineral wells
argyle (27) > mineral wells (so argyle is 20 better than iowa park)
carthage (17) > argyle
bottom line: carthage is 37 points better than iowa park

bottom line: brownwood beat iowa park by 64

Common Links 4:

bridgeport (9) > mineral wells
argyle (27) > mineral wells (so argyle is 18 better than bridgeport)
carthage (17) > argyle
bottom line: carthage is 35 points better than bridgeport

bottom line: bownwood beat bridgeport by 30

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by 91 lion
Of course I do.....they actually went 4 deep......but thats the point im making.

In the playoffs, they played:
Diboll (5-6)
Lorena- a team that lost to Kennedale by 14 and struggled with Gatesville (1 point game).......BWD beat Gatesville by 40
Royal-I give them credit for beating a decent Royal team
......but then they got thumped by 30 by Coldspring

so their run, to me, wasnt that impressive.....they beat 8 teams with losing records


kinda goes both ways..there 3 losses are to teams still in the play offs

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by bwdlionfan
Actual facts to look at... and of course these can even be twisted and turned because they are scores between common opponents. I looked at 4 scenarios where we have links between our common opponents (there are more but I just did the first 4 I found linked)... Advantage Brownwood in 2 of them, advantage Carthage in 2 of them:

Common Links 1:

gainesville (9) > lake worth
madison (21) > gainesville
carthage (29) > madison
bottom line: carthage is 59 pts better than lake worth

bridgeport (42) > lake worth
brownwood (30) > bridgeport
bottom line: brownwood is 72 points better than lake worth

Common Links 2:

lovejoy (28) > wylie
arygle (3) > lovejoy
carthage (17) > argyle
bottom line: carthage 48 points better than wylie

bottom line: brownwood beat wylie by 38 (could have been much worse)

Common Links 3:

iowa park (7) > mineral wells
argyle (27) > mineral wells (so argyle is 20 better than iowa park)
carthage (17) > argyle
bottom line: carthage is 37 points better than iowa park

bottom line: brownwood beat iowa park by 64

Common Links 4:

bridgeport (9) > mineral wells
argyle (27) > mineral wells (so argyle is 18 better than bridgeport)
carthage (17) > argyle
bottom line: carthage is 35 points better than bridgeport

bottom line: bownwood beat bridgeport by 30

Just goes to show folks, we are definitely going to get our Money's worth on this one. Anyone going to videotape it and sell it?

[skins4life]

Originally posted by Rocket
No, that is just your women.:eek: :devil:

I don't believe you've had the privilege or pleasure of meeting my wife, so watch your tongue jr. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[91 lion]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
kinda goes both ways..there 3 losses are to teams still in the play offs

yep...when they played good competition, they lost.....but 8 of their wins against teams with losing records.

the only point im making, that he is off base about his "competition" comment.

11 teams that Brownwood played made the playoffs.

[Dawgdaze]

http://www.hilariousheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-lion-picture-4.jpg
Silly Lions! State Championships are for Doggies!!

http://www.dawggearnow.com/images/magnets/imgp5210.jpg

[91 lion]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
http://www.hilariousheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-lion-picture-4.jpg
Silly Lions! State Championships are for Doggies!!

http://www.dawggearnow.com/images/magnets/imgp5210.jpg

now that's funny!

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
http://www.hilariousheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-lion-picture-4.jpg
Silly Lions! State Championships are for Doggies!!

http://www.dawggearnow.com/images/magnets/imgp5210.jpg

LOL

[LoboesWT]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
http://www.hilariousheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-lion-picture-4.jpg
Silly Lions! State Championships are for Doggies!!

http://www.dawggearnow.com/images/magnets/imgp5210.jpg :fnypost:

[Chillfan]

Can you say that BW has played both teams playing for Div1? Can you say that you played the 2009 Div1 State Champions? There are a lot of weak teams making the playoffs. It is very possible that Carthages loss to CH could be the best thing that happened to them all year. I think Carthage has been battled tested and IMO it gives them the edge.

[91 lion]

Originally posted by Chillfan
Can you say that BW has played both teams playing for Div1? Can you say that you played the 2009 Div1 State Champions? There are a lot of weak teams making the playoffs. It is very possible that Carthages loss to CH could be the best thing that happened to them all year. I think Carthage has been battled tested and IMO it gives them the edge.

Carthage has played a very solid schedule. I never questioned that. Theirs was much stronger than yours, and definitely stronger than your district mate Athens. I brought it up, because you were chest-thumping about how tough the ET schedules are.

We dont open up the season against 0-10 teams.......do you?:thinking:

[bwdlionfan]

Originally posted by Chillfan
Can you say that BW has played both teams playing for Div1? Can you say that you played the 2009 Div1 State Champions? There are a lot of weak teams making the playoffs. It is very possible that Carthages loss to CH could be the best thing that happened to them all year. I think Carthage has been battled tested and IMO it gives them the edge.

Can you say that Carthage beat Stephenville worse than Aledo did in two victories put together? By the way, Aledo is last year's 4A champs and #1 in 4A this year.

We could play this game all week... oh yea... we have :rolleyes:

[Dawgdaze]

Originally posted by Chillfan
Can you say that BW has played both teams playing for Div1? Can you say that you played the 2009 Div1 State Champions? There are a lot of weak teams making the playoffs. It is very possible that Carthages loss to CH could be the best thing that happened to them all year. I think Carthage has been battled tested and IMO it gives them the edge.

Amen Chill! Thank You! Don't worry though. We got this. This is the same 'ole rhetoric we got from Celina in 2008 when we came into the State Championship with 2 losses. Coincidently, one of the teams we lost to in 2008 was Nacogdoches third game of the season. The other was Kilgore, the first game of the season. When you teach a team to be great, it takes a while to get them unstoppable with Coach Surratt because they have so much to learn it takes a while to learn it all. But by district we are rolling. We have yet to lose a district game in 4 years! (20-0) and haven't lost a playoff game since 2007!

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by hollywood
Of course you are! It worked against Monahans! Keep it up!

Just rooting for the "perceived" underdog. Nothing wrong with that, right?:p

[bobcat1]

Tincup, Rocket and Hollywood:

http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/eeb1611f91debcee1af3113058eb928b86541495.pjpg

[91 lion]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Tincup, Rocket and Hollywood:

http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/eeb1611f91debcee1af3113058eb928b86541495.pjpg

Thats just wrong 'cat.

[garciap77]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Tincup, Rocket and Hollywood:

http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/eeb1611f91debcee1af3113058eb928b86541495.pjpg

If I had sometme, I would fix it up for you bobcat1!:D

I have a nice pic of 91 lion too!!!!:D



;)

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by garciap77
If I had sometme, I would fix it up for you bobcat1!:D Take your time. We have until Saturday at least. :D

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Tincup, Rocket and Hollywood:

http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/eeb1611f91debcee1af3113058eb928b86541495.pjpg


Rocket is to tall in that pic

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Rocket is to tall in that pic Garcia will fix that. :D

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Rocket is to tall in that pic

I think I can fix that!:D

[garciap77]

Man you beat me to it!

[91 lion]

Originally posted by garciap77
If I had sometme, I would fix it up for you bobcat1!:D

I have a nice pic of 91 lion too!!!!:D



;)

I knew we should have made you keep that big camera pointed at the field:doh:

[Dawgdaze]

http://www.jpbutler.com/franklin-park-zoo/lion.jpg

Brownwood Lions BEFORE the game vs. Carthage

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/32735-cowardly_lion.jpg

Brownwood Lions AT HALFTIME


http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/uglycatBAR_450x350.jpg

Brownwood Lions AFTER THE GAME

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by 91 lion
I knew we should have made you keep that big camera pointed at the field:doh: Is this 91Lion Garcia?

http://www.hilariousheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-lion-picture-4.jpg

[bobcat1]

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/uglycatBAR_450x350.jpghttp://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/32735-cowardly_lion.jpg
Is that Royce TTU and Beast?
:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Dawgdaze]

Got it thanks!

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Dawgdaze
Got it thanks! :D

[91 lion]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Is this 91Lion Garcia?

http://www.hilariousheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-lion-picture-4.jpg

Is this Bobcat1, Garcia?

http:// http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/sites/default/files/images/2009/10/Bobcat-Carrot-Top.jpg&imgrefurl=http://current.com/groups/celebrity/92355754_some-fails-that-i-dont-think-are-fails-2.htm&usg=__OoAsnq-PxodTR-2WJpfqmiCj4Ho=&h=393&w=500&sz=34&hl=en&start=21&zoom=1&tbnid=-L48Gaycsz3aBM:&tbnh=145&tbnw=175&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfunny%2Bbobcat%2Bpictures%26um%3D1%26 hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26biw%3D1259%26bih%3D635%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C521&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=980&vpy=109&dur=889&hovh=199&hovw=253&tx=186&ty=99&ei=cVsATe6fAYHLnAf71J3mDQ&oei=VlsATfCJGIWKlwelvLCuCA&esq=2&page=2&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:21&biw=1259&bih=635http://:D

[ccmom]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Is this 91Lion Garcia?

http://www.hilariousheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-lion-picture-4.jpg That picture gives me the willies for some reason...:ack!:

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by 91 lion
Is this Bobcat1, Garcia?

http:// http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/sites/default/files/images/2009/10/Bobcat-Carrot-Top.jpg&imgrefurl=http://current.com/groups/celebrity/92355754_some-fails-that-i-dont-think-are-fails-2.htm&usg=__OoAsnq-PxodTR-2WJpfqmiCj4Ho=&h=393&w=500&sz=34&hl=en&start=21&zoom=1&tbnid=-L48Gaycsz3aBM:&tbnh=145&tbnw=175&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfunny%2Bbobcat%2Bpictures%26um%3D1%26 hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26biw%3D1259%26bih%3D635%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C521&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=980&vpy=109&dur=889&hovh=199&hovw=253&tx=186&ty=99&ei=cVsATe6fAYHLnAf71J3mDQ&oei=VlsATfCJGIWKlwelvLCuCA&esq=2&page=2&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:21&biw=1259&bih=635http://:D No silly this is Bobcat1:

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8058/bobcat19mythqy3.jpg

[91 lion]

Celina Technology: Bobcat1 tuning into the BWD-Carthage game.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/09/cdbf49b0a4076157_large.jpg

[skins4life]

Originally posted by Rocket
Homers and Haters...Brownwood has done nothing but play outstanding football all season long. There is no reason they shouldn't be the favorite and have more votes. The Haters can have the Downlow Poll... Not like anybody who votes on it knows anything about football anyway...(ie. Garcia and skins4life)

For your information jr, I haven't even voted in this poll :taunt: :taunt: I actually could care less about it. So there. :tongue: :tongue:

[bobcat1]

I found a pic of Rockee in his maroon shirt headed to the game back in his high school days too:D :


http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8200/imagescasgo1y3.jpg

[trojandad]

is this game televised anywhere? would sure love to see it if not for an obligation fri night....

[Louie13]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
http://www.meridix.com/mbp/archive/radio/index.php?liveid=sportsgram8&recordid=15848

Good show. Enjoyed the analysis.
But I certainly was surprised in the end that you both picked Brownwood to win. Since you analyzed it to be really close, I thought you would stay East Texas true.:) A little disturbing info about the gang activity in that part of Dallas. Hopefully they won't mess with 15,000 football fans, or our cars, and that's a lot of cars to be watched! Heard you say you would be at the game. I guess we will have a M&G somewhere so come join us.

[RoyceTTU]

Originally posted by bobcat1
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/uglycatBAR_450x350.jpghttp://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/32735-cowardly_lion.jpg
Is that Royce TTU and Beast?
:clap: :clap: :clap:


LOL, I hope you meant Beast was the one on top :confused: :confused: :D :D

[RoyceTTU]

Originally posted by bobcat1
No silly this is Bobcat1:


Bobcat, I just realized how famous you are. Have you fixed your speach problems yet. :D :D :D :D

Bobcat Goldthwaite 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFA1itT7VBA)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/HazeyJane/bob-goldthwait.jpg

[garciap77]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Is this 91Lion Garcia?

http://www.hilariousheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-lion-picture-4.jpg

No he is much taller!:D

[Louie13]

From the ARN, here's Evan's analysis this week.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2010/dec/08/no-headline---big_country_game_of_the_week/

[Louie13]

Originally posted by garciap77
No he is much taller!:D

Somebody, please take that Dolly Parton wig off that lion!:doh: Can you do it Garcia?:thinking:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Louie13
Somebody, please take that Dolly Parton wig off that lion!:doh: Can you do it Garcia?:thinking:

I don't have the tools at work, and I might need to use that Lion next year!:D

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by garciap77
I don't have the tools at work, and I might need to use that Lion next year!:D PM sent. :D

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by 91 lion
I knew we should have made you keep that big camera pointed at the field:doh:

Hahaha

I remember you saying "DO NOT let Garcia get a clear picture of you". :D

[91 lion]

Originally posted by bobcat1
PM sent. :D

:thinking:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Hahaha

I remember you saying "DO NOT let Garcia get a clear picture of you". :D

I have a nice one of Lion 91, but he's all too cool!:D I also have a nice one of Tin Cup!:D

[91 lion]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Hahaha

I remember you saying "DO NOT let Garcia get a clear picture of you". :D

yep...but it sounds like we let our guards down:doh:

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by 91 lion
:thinking: Inquiring minds want to know??

[Ranger Mom]

So...I just read this on my facebook:

"carthage has a stud qb that no one talks about...a middle lb that will play on suindays and a left tackle that is a monster"


Has any of this been discussed on here??:D :D :devil:

[ctown]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
So...I just read this on my facebook:

"carthage has a stud qb that no one talks about...a middle lb that will play on suindays and a left tackle that is a monster"


Has any of this been discussed on here??:D :D :devil:

Ha! That's critical game discussion. No time for that here.

[BwdLions]

Article by Derrick Stuckly of the Brownwood bulletin.


As Good As It Gets

Quarterback Graylon Brown (2) and the Brownwood Lions (14-0) carry their 55-point per game average into the state semifinals against the Carthage Bulldogs (12-2), who are tallying 43 points per contest.
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.Posted: Wednesday, December 8, 2010 10:55 pm

By Derrick Stuckly-Brownwood Bulletin | 0 comments

At various points throughout the 2010 campaign, an opponent has emerged as a “threat” to the No. 1 Brownwood Lions’ undefeated season. Still, the Division II-3A Region I champion Lions have diced up their foes with an average margin of victory of 40 points.

But make no mistake this week — the two-time defending state champion Carthage Bulldogs are as dangerous a foe as the Lions have seen, and have all the weapons required to match Brownwood toe-to-toe.



With that said, the Division II-3A state semifinal encounter between the Lions (14-0) and Region II champion Bulldogs (12-2) — slated for 7:30 p.m. Friday at Dallas’ Kincaide Stadium — has all the makings of an epic confrontation.

“There’s no question that they are the best team we’ve faced,” said Lions second-year head coach Bob Shipley. “They’re big, athletic, have a lot of speed on both sides of the ball and play exceptionally well on special teams. They’re going for their third straight state championship so their coaching staff obviously knows what they’re doing.”

Brownwood enters the game with one of the most explosive offenses in the history of Texas high school football. The Lions have tallied 773 points, just 51 shy of the state’s 11-man record of 824, set in 1975 by Big Sandy. The Lions are also only 257 yards short of reaching 7,000 yards of total offense.

Carthage, meanwhile, is producing 43 points and 446 yards — 230 passing and 216 rushing — per game, and is unquestionably this most athletically gifted team the Lions have faced this season. The Bulldogs feature their own version of “triplets” which include quarterback Anthony Mason (3,144 yards passing, 30 TDs), tailback Hunter Holland (2,194 yards rushing, 32 TDs) and receiver Jalen Claiborne (94-1,331 yards, 14 TDs).

“I don’t feel that there’s going to be much room for error and there shouldn’t be in a semifinal game,” Shipley said. “There are two good teams playing and only one is going to advance to the championship game and it will likely be the one that makes the fewest mistakes.”

Though Carthage enters the game with two losses — which snapped a streak of 31 consecutive wins — the Bulldogs’ strength of schedule may be the strongest in the state. Carthage has played both teams in this weekend’s Division I-3A state championship — Henderson and Tyler Chapel Hill — along with 2009 Division I-3A state champion Gilmer and Argyle, which was ranked No. 2 behind Brownwood in most power rankings prior to last week’s season-ending 44-27 loss.

“I told our kids earlier this week that Carthage is battle tested,” Shipley said. “They’ve played a tougher schedule than we have but that doesn’t necessarily mean that we haven’t played some good teams, too. They had some injuries earlier in the year when they lost a couple of their games but they seem to have everyone back now and are playing really well.”

The Lions’ foes include previously undefeated Monahans, which Brownwood cruised to a 44-14 victory against last week, and Division II-4A state quarterfinalist Stephenville, which the Lions hammered 49-16. Brownwood has faced a total of nine teams that advanced to the postseason.

In what is expected to the Lions’ closest contest of the season — no team has stayed within 29 points of Brownwood to date — last week’s first-quarter adversity could prove beneficial in the long run.

The Lions trailed 7-0 midway through the first period, and was staring at a two-score deficit with Monahans at the Brownwood 18 and just over three minutes left in the opening period. The Lions defense held, however, and the offense scored in just 1:58 as Brownwood rolled from that point.

“I think each time you overcome adversity it makes you stronger and more confident for the next time things don’t go our way,” Shipley said.

Brownwood enters Friday’s game averaging 55 points and 482 total yards per contest, and faces a Carthage defense that has given up 26 points per game on average.

“Mainly I think they’ve played good teams,” Shipley said of the points Carthage has allowed. “I don’t see a weak area in their defense. They typically run a four-man front and run three or four coverages behind it.”

Quarterback Graylon Brown is the spark plug for the Lions offense as he has completed 225-of-337 passes for 3,723 yards with 47 touchdowns and just six interceptions. Brown has also rushed for 633 yards and 10 touchdowns.

Leading receivers for the Lions include Jaxon Shipley (71-1,458, 26 TDs) — who has also returned five punts for touchdowns — Luke Chastain (40-687, 8 TDs), Vance McShan (32-408, 3 TDs), Cade Johnson (28-385, 6 TDs) and Dillon Ellis (24-389, 4 TDs). Chastain returned to the lineup last week and hauled in a team-high seven receptions for 92 yards and two touchdowns, providing a welcomed boost to the Lions’ loaded arsenal.

On the ground, Stehl Ratliff (120-1,024, 20 TDs) and Levi Perez (75-515, 14 TDs) lead the charge as the duo rushed for 143 yards and four touchdowns last week. In Brownwood’s last two games, the Lions have racked up 462 yards rushing — 231 yards per outing.

While Carthage struggled against the run in its two losses, Shipley and the Lions will take a wait and see approach in terms of how to attack the Bulldog defense.

“We will do what we do and see how they adjust to it,” Shipley said. “We have to trust what we do and do it better than we’ve done it all season.”

Defensively, the Lions are allowing just 15 points and 284 yards per game with 71 tackles for loss, 34 sacks and 45 turnovers. But Brownwood is facing an offense the likes of nothing it has seen this season.

“We have to play good defense all the way around,” Shipley said. “We will always try to stop the run first but they certainly have the weapons to hurt you through the air, too. I don’t think you can go wholesale against the run or the pass.”

The Lions defense is spearheaded by Caden Ellis (125 tackles, 10 sacks, 2 fumble recoveries, interception), Jorge De La Paz (109 tackles, 3 sacks), Derek Longoria (99 tackles, 5 interceptions, fumble recovery), Levi Westerman (96 tackles, 5 sacks, 2 fumble recoveries), Payton Christopher (95 tackles, fumble recovery), Rey Arriaga (91 tackles, 4 sacks, fumble recovery), Kevin Vaccaro (74 tackles, 3 interceptions), Alex Elizondo (72 tackles, 3 sacks, fumble recovery), Luke Chastain (72 tackles, 5 interceptions, 2 fumble recoveries), Vance McShan (70 tackles, 7 interceptions, fumble recovery), Tyler Harth (70 tackles, sack, interception, fumble recovery), Abel Jimenez (68 tackles) and Ethan Horton (61 tackles, 4 sacks, fumble recovery).

Brownwood forces 3.2 turnovers per game on average, but expects a disciplined Carthage offense to make very few mistakes that lead to takeaways.

“They take good care of the ball and we have, too, so I don’t expect to see many turnovers Friday,” Shipley said. “I don’t think you win the number of games they’ve won if you turn the ball over a lot.”

Though the Bulldogs own the experience advantage, Shipley does not necessarily consider that a plus for Carthage.

“I would never discount the hunger our guys have to win,” Shipley said. “We are playing with a chip on our shoulder and I expect us to continue to be hungry and go for broke.”

On the injury front, Shipley expects the Lions to be near full strength Friday night.

“We have the typical bruises and sprains, but I think we’ll all be full go by Friday,” Shipley said.

Friday’s winner will face either Coldspring-Oakhurst (13-1) or Wimberley (14-0) at 4 p.m. Friday, Dec. 17 at Cowboys Stadium in the Division II-3A state championship game.

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Wow with a 150+ pages of threads, hope this game lives up to the hype, still say Carthage +10 at least