Division I State Championship - Liberty Hill(13-0) vs. Gilmer Buckeyes(14-0)

[Panther One]

Originally posted by TOPS1435 That's part of what makes Gilmer football so interesting to our fans. We never know which rabbit the coach is going to pull out of the hat next!!!!
We don't have any rabbits or hats. We just go out and do what we do every week. The interesting thing for us is seeing all the different things that defenses will do to try to stop us.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Panther One
We don't have any rabbits or hats. We just go out and do what we do every week. The interesting thing for us is seeing all the different things that defenses will do to try to stop us.

and other great offenses see different lookes from defenses as well

[Gobbla2001]

Minus the loss to LH this year, I have really enjoyed seeing their program's rise to success this decade...

I remember in the early early '00's they were just getting good at runnin' that mess but just weren't good enough to get over the hump... Region 4 was loaded from top to bottom back in those days with La Grange, Sinton, Burnet, Wharton, Bandera, Rice Consolidated and even Yoakum being very dominant in those early rounds and beyond... Wimberley was coming on in those days as well and I know I'm missing somebody (Cuero was down)....

when I first saw them in '04 I noticed just how well they ran their offense... they let some stuff loose on D, but executed that offense very well, but still some athletes short of championship caliber... then in '05 they were about the same on O, tad better on D but still not good enough... but when I saw 'em play in Cuero last year I was truely amazed... though they lost you finally saw some dominant athletisism on the offensive and defensive lines... then you looked at their roster and said "wow, these guys are gunna be damn good next year..." or last year... they won it and there wasn't a doubt in my mind they would be 10 times better this year, and they are...

The differences between this year's team and the years before is that #1 their defense has drastically improved... they have some decent speed and some size in that front seven... secondary is still hit or miss but it is heads and shoulders above what it used to be IMHO... also their offense use to would run into a damn fine defensive unit and get yards, just not as many points (still a lot) because the opposing D could tighten up on 'em and pull a stop... now? you'll be tired from chasing that RB (whichever one of the 23 it may be), but on top of that you'll be wore out from getting smacked into the ground by an awesome offensive front...

But like they say, as cliche as it may be, defense wins championships and that is what finally got them over the hump last year... and if they win it this year that will have been the reason as well... they can stop your offense now, and finish on your D...

Doesn't hurt having the whole community eat, sleep and breath the system ran there...

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Hill Man
Lets break this down - Gilmer has 6607 yds after 14 games, avg rounded to 474 yds per game.
LH has 6212 yards after 13 games (only had 9 regular season games), avg rounded at 478 yds per game..

Now that is as close a match up as you can get....
Very good point you have! I think the key isn't going to be either teams' explosive offense, but how the defenses adjust and handle the other team.

I bet if we asked very nicely, Panther One might have some of those "allowed/game" stats lying around he might share. :kiss: :kiss: Maybe someone from Gilmer can do the same. :)

[Old Tiger]

LH will control the clock and keep the Gilmer offense off the field therefore bringing the 2007 state championship trophy to LH.

[Panther One]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
I bet if we asked very nicely, Panther One might have some of those "allowed/game" stats lying around he might share. :kiss: :kiss: Maybe someone from Gilmer can do the same. :)
Our Stats:

Opponents
Rushing: 281 att - 831 yds | 63.9 yds/g (2.5 yds/car)
Passing: 160 - 308 - 1674 yds | 128.77 yds/g
Total: 635 - 2505 yds | 192.7 yds/g

Panthers
Rushing: 697 att - 5605 yds | 431.2 yds/g (8.04 yds/car)
Passing: 16 - 34 - 607 yds | 46.7 yds/g
Total: 731 - 6212 yds | 477.8 yds/g

[Panther One]

Gilmer Stats:

Opponents
Rushing: 428 att - 1927 yds | 137.6 yds/g (4.5 yds/car)
Passing: 124 - 248 - 1358 yds | 97.0 yds/g
Total: 676 - 3285 yds | 234.6 yds/g

Buckeyes
Rushing: 455 att - 4225 yds | 301.8 yds/g (9.3 yds/car)
Passing: 187 - 287 - 2740 yds | 195.0 yds/g
Total: 742 - 6965 yds | 497.5 yds/g

[lynx_rufus]

Those numbers make me reminisce about last year's game.

I'm wondering if Gilmer's big back might be able to pound out a couple of those "4th and 1"s where Celina's young backs just came up short?

I'm thinking this game is going to be really good!

Go Region 2!

[lynx_rufus]

So Gilmer is the home team?

There is a theory floating around Celina that wearing white costs Liberty Hill a few points.

If so, this really might give a whole new meaning to thunderstruck. Shocking! :eek: :eek:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by lynx_rufus
So Gilmer is the home team?

There is a theory floating around Celina that wearing white costs Liberty Hill a few points.

If so, this really might give a whole new meaning to thunderstruck. Shocking! :eek: :eek:
LOL! No, we are the home team. And sorry, but that theory has the holes in it of a sieve. :evillol: :evillol: :evillol:

[lynx_rufus]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
LOL! No, we are the home team. And sorry, but that theory has the holes in it of a sieve. :evillol: :evillol: :evillol:
Well, I guess that theory does not get tested this year. Too bad. :(
I would have liked to of seen Liberty Hill in white. Like a virgin. :eek:

[wimbo_pro]

I havent heard anything from either side about their special teams....field position after punts/kick offs, return averages, field goal capabilities, etc.

If these teams are as evenly matched as the stats say, then this area could be a huge factor.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Go Blue
LH will control the clock and keep the Gilmer offense off the field therefore bringing the 2007 state championship trophy to LH. I thought this was relevent to the conversation and a good analysis.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
I havent heard anything from either side about their special teams....field position after punts/kick offs, return averages, field goal capabilities, etc.

If these teams are as evenly matched as the stats say, then this area could be a huge factor.
Punts? Are we supposed to have someone that can punt? :eek: :p

That info will take some digging. :thinking:

[duckpluck]

LH Punter is good but I sorta refer to him as the lonely Maytag repairman.

[RattlerDude]

The more I think about the game, the more I think that Liberty Hill will win comfortably over Gilmer. By comfortably, I mean 10+ points. Of course there will be those that will say a last minute touchdown can give you a 10 point lead but that is not what I mean. I mean that I think LH will dominate and easily repeat as state champs. I want LH to win but I just want Gilmer to make it a challenge. How crappy would that be if the game between the two best teams in 3A division I was a blowout instead of a hard fought battle?

[RattlerDude]

Oh and how much will the tickets be? I will be there for this game.

[Old Tiger]

7 or 8 I'm sure.

[Panther One]

Originally posted by RattlerDude
Oh and how much will the tickets be? I will be there for this game.
From the LHISD website...

Advance Ticket Information:
Tickets on sale Wednesday morning until 1:00 pm on Friday.
Adult tickets will be $8.00 and student tickets will be $5.00.
All tickets at the gate on Saturday will be $10.00.

[Panther One]

As of today, the Saturday forecast for Waco:

High: 43
Low: 29

Precip: 10%

Wind: NNW at 18 mph

[Martian Man]

ONLY FOUR DAYS MORE !!!!!!!
Go Buckeyes!!!

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Dogman_1969
LH in a blowout.....

Gilmer will find out that they aren't in east Texas anymore...................... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Hill Man]

Originally posted by Panther One
As of today, the Saturday forecast for Waco:

High: 43
Low: 29

Precip: 10%

Wind: NNW at 18 mph

almost perfect for a ground game:inlove: :inlove:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
Johnson better have six touchdowns

No problem! You'll see! But, watch out for #4 he has a better chance of doing that! Good luck!

[garciap77]

Originally posted by YamTown
There's no doubt that LH is an excellent team, but so are the Buckeyes. Both teams have a lot of talent, and like to score fast and often. I'll give the edge to LH on D, but I gotta take my buckeyes on O. It'll be a close hard fought game in my opinion, with the Nutz winning it in a squeaker. Either way it goes down,.......... I just hope that both teams play with class and respect.

I say your D is just as good as your O whenl you need them the most! I saw that first hand! Not to many posters were say much about you D, but I quess when it gets tough they make big stops! Good luck to both teams! Even match, but I'll take Gilmer by 14!

[Aesculus gilmus]

I have never seen a group of posters MORE confident their team is going to win than the Liberty Hill group.

I never thought I'd live to see a fan base that made Gilmer's look humble (particularly when we see the in-your-face "Buckeye Pride" slogan everywhere around here), but it has happened.

[garciap77]

Originally posted by mrwakelley
To much hype about liberty hill just like the hype about abilene. i say gilmer will blow out liberty hill and give an upset to them just like the battle they gave abilene. This team is got so much talent with stump godrfrey able to run and gun and the "bus cant be stopped by one man. and with hands like houston has, liberty hill better have a great secondary. i give this game to gilmer no doubt. liberty hill might catch a brake and get ahead but gilmer has showed they can come from behind and win in these past to games.

Agree!

[garciap77]

Originally posted by rundoe
Theres no hype. Ain't gonna happen. Back to back State Champs.
They are peaking at exactly the right time. Each game is better than the last. LH wins this one. :rolleyes:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by 1st and goal
First let me say my hat is off to LH's players and coaches for their dedication and hard work. They are the team to beat this year no matter which division you look at.

That being said, I think they have had a relative cakewalk into the state championship game. I think that many of the best teams were in Div II and I know that some would have given LH a better game than they have faced yet.

I plan on going to the title game next week and I feel confident they'll win. I would like to see Gilmer give them a good game though. Gilmer could show up and surprise a bunch of us.

I have to say, last years championship game between LH and Celina was one of the best games I've ever been to in person. (I filmed it and have watched it at least 3 or 4 times.)

How about a Div I vs Div II playoff game in a cowfield somewhere?

:thinking: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by lostaussie
Ya'll are freakin killing me!!!!!!! 14-0 this season, 63-4 since 2003, hell these guys don't know what loseing is. but alas. i forgot we were playing the almighty LHPanthers. as I sit here at my computer laughing to myself, I can't help but think, we will be good to go. And don't underestimate our defense, cause you might get your feelings hurt, ain't that right Wylie?

You got that right! You D is the key at this time of the year! Good Luck! Keep that sportmanship you display at our game it was great! :clap: :clap: :clap:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
Umm, there is no rule stating you HAVE to punt the ball on fourth down — ever — no matter where you are on the field. Just watch Gilmer. :D

Yeah, I'd be shocked if we even HAVE a punter anymore. He may well have walked off the team by now. He's like the Maytag repairman. ;)

Your punter was not bad at all. Looked pretty good vs us!:D :D :D


GOOD LUCK! Beat LH!

[garciap77]

Originally posted by lostaussie
i knew that. it put a slight dagger in me..............just not as bad as if you had said PURPLE:doh:


PURPLE! PURPLE! PURPLE! PURPLE! PURPLE! PURPLE! PURPLE! PURPLE!:D :D :D :D :D

Beat LH!

[wimbo_pro]

I have always wondered why they dont play a D1 vs. D2 championship game. It's only one more week of football...I would rather see this game played than to see bye weeks given to each team (some have 2 bye weeks!).

[garciap77]

Originally posted by boudreaux
If Gilmer can throw the ball the Buckeyes win in a close one. Navasota's WR went out with a broken arm killiing the Rattlers chances. Not that Navasota would have won anyway. If Gilmer can throw they can win. If they can't LH wins by 7. Weather may play a role with the south wind. It can give you short punts and very long KO's. Gilmer is on a mission to win what they feel they deserve from last year. But Gilmer's forte aint defense. Their D will have to play well. This is not a thing they do well. People have scored points on the Buckeyes that shouldnt be scoring on a state championship team. Gilmer faced a better team in the semi's with Wylie than LH did vs UnPleasnton. Should be a good game.

Gilmer can throw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #4 can catch!!!! Glimer wins!!!!

Forte aint defense! It was Friday!:( :( :( :(

[garciap77]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
I have always wondered why they dont play a D1 vs. D2 championship game. It's only one more week of football...I would rather see this game played than to see bye weeks given to each team (some have 2 bye weeks!).

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Punts? Are we supposed to have someone that can punt? :eek: :p

That info will take some digging. :thinking:

I should have expected THAT answer, right? lol

What about field goal kickers? How do they compare? What about field position on kick offs? What do you say is LH's average start position, and what is their opponents? That kind of stuff MIGHT be really telling when two teams so evenly matched stats-wise meet....or......it might be completely irrelevent when two high school powerhouses meet.

Who knows? I am just trying to get more than what we already know...LH can smother you defensively and then run the clock out on the ground, and Gilmer can smother you with defense and then use many weapons to score.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
LH can smother you defensively and then run the clock out on the ground, and Gilmer can smother you with defense and then use many weapons to score.

agreed on both of those statements wimbo :clap:

LH keeping the Gilmer offense off the field is going to be the difference though :)

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
agreed on both of those statements wimbo :clap:

LH keeping the Gilmer offense off the field is going to be the difference though :)

Exactly...which is why I ask about field position. Whats your guess on LH's coverage of kick offs (God knows they have done plenty of kick offs this year, so you should have an idea of average starting position of the opposition). Anyone with Gilmer can chime it too.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
I have never seen a group of posters MORE confident their team is going to win than the Liberty Hill group.

I never thought I'd live to see a fan base that made Gilmer's look humble (particularly when we see the in-your-face "Buckeye Pride" slogan everywhere around here), but it has happened.
You know, you are absolutely right. I'm not sure why anyone from Liberty Hill thinks we even have a prayer.
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[garciap77]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
You should be. With the 7 we scored for Wylie, and assuming scores instead of the two fumbles, that brings us real close to 40.:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

You did not give Wylie 7! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

We took 7 from you with a hard hit! I'm sure you would have fumble too! So, go buy some gas!:D :D :D

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
I should have expected THAT answer, right? lol

What about field goal kickers? How do they compare? What about field position on kick offs? What do you say is LH's average start position, and what is their opponents? That kind of stuff MIGHT be really telling when two teams so evenly matched stats-wise meet....or......it might be completely irrelevent when two high school powerhouses meet.

Who knows? I am just trying to get more than what we already know...LH can smother you defensively and then run the clock out on the ground, and Gilmer can smother you with defense and then use many weapons to score.
I intended to get some of the other info you mentioned yesterday, but I forgot. I'll see what I can find in a bit.

I will say that our kicker has attempted FG's in games this year, unlike last year ( :D ) and has made most. I'll find #'s when I look for the other.

As far as field position, it varies. I'm just a mom, so what do I know? :D ;)

[Daddy D 11]

id say are coverage on kick offs is decent, as of late we have really actually swarmed to the ball pretty well. but we pooch kick it alot so we dont allow the reall speedsters to get it and run with it. and our kick off team, well they are hardly ever on the field :p

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
You know, you are absolutely right. I'm not sure why anyone from Liberty Hill thinks we even have a prayer.
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I don't have a dog in this fight....but I don't see where the LH fans are any more or any less confident than the Gilmer fans.

It's pretty much a toss-up at this point....but people seem to see their own fans through rose colored glasses.

I have noticed that on this thread AND the Celina/Snyder thread.

There are confident/arrogant (however you wanna look at it) posts from ALL sides, IMO!!:D

[Daddy D 11]

i agree. we arent saying LH is going to smash Gilmer, if you buckeyes will pay atttention, the score predictions are coming from posters that arent in LH.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I don't have a dog in this fight....but I don't see where the LH fans are any more or any less confident than the Gilmer fans.

It's pretty much a toss-up at this point....but people seem to see their own fans through rose colored glasses.

I have noticed that on this thread AND the Celina/Snyder thread.

There are confident/arrogant (however you wanna look at it) posts from ALL sides, IMO!!:D

I agree!

Also, what's wrong with being confident in your team's ability & chances? Isn't that the whole point of being a fan? :confused:

AG don't act like there aren't some Gilmer faithful around here and on other boards that are acting the same way! Not to mention you've picked up some bandwagon fans, as has LH to "boast" your accomplishments as well!! ;)

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by garciap77
You did not give Wylie 7! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

We took 7 from you with a hard hit! I'm sure you would have fumble too! So, go buy some gas!:D :D :D

Easy garzia. If you were there you saw that after a sack inside the 5 our sophomore QB made a mistake of inexperience in trying to throw the ball while a defender was hanging on to him. The hit from the second defender knocked the ball free and into the endzone and AW recovered for a touchdown. 2 things, the coach should have called buses number up the middle and then punted if he could not get the 25-30 yards he needed for a first. With a 14 point lead at the time, the AW touchdown was huge. The second thing is QB was carrying the ball like a loaf of bread attempting to throw instead of protecting the ball. Good hit and defense to take advantage of the mistake, but it was a mistake. That is what we enjoy about Gilmer's gunslinging, we are coming at you hard all the time from any point on the field.

And my tank is full and I am headed to Waco for my team's State Championship game Saturday. What will you and your team be doing?
:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
And my tank is full and I am headed to Waco for my team's State Championship game Saturday. What will you and your team be doing?
:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

cheap shot. wow.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy


And my tank is full and I am headed to Waco for my team's State Championship game Saturday. What will you and your team be doing?
:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

WOW!! You just went "STR" on him!!:eek:

[Aesculus gilmus]

Originally posted by pirate4state
I agree!

Also, what's wrong with being confident in your team's ability & chances? Isn't that the whole point of being a fan? :confused:

AG don't act like there aren't some Gilmer faithful around here and on other boards that are acting the same way! Not to mention you've picked up some bandwagon fans, as has LH to "boast" your accomplishments as well!! ;)

No, I absolutely agree that there are plenty of arrogant and "prideful" Buckeye posters. Why we want to emphasize one of the seven deadly sins has always puzzled me, particularly in the Bible Belt.

Next our bankers will be celebrating "Buckeye Greed." Then our slackers will be touting "Buckeye Slothfulness" etc. etc.

The Liberty Hill contingent (whether from within the community or riding the bandwagon) is just way larger here than ours. Gilmer has plenty of fans over on the site based in Tyler who are at least as cocky as anyone from LH or who is for LH.

By the way, LH's heavy metal theme song worked. "Thunder struck" all night long in Gilmer. We don't mind. We needed the rain.
:D

Now that I think about, though, isn't it lightning that strikes and thunder that rolls? Oh well. AC/DC isn't here to explain how they came up with the lyrics.

[Daddy D 11]

gilmer sucks :tongue:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
And my tank is full and I am headed to Waco for my team's State Championship game Saturday. What will you and your team be doing?
:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:
Bandwagoning your team, what did you think? :p ;)

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
gilmer sucks :tongue: hahahaha

lordy and up until it had been somewhat civil ;)

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Bandwagoning your team, what did you think? :p ;)

More like caravaning.

[GreenMachine]

LH takes this one by 14+. Who is this Gilmer team everyone talks about :thinking: Were they in the playoffs last year :rolleyes:

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by GreenMachine
LH takes this one by 14+. Who is this Gilmer team everyone talks about :thinking: Were they in the playoffs last year :rolleyes:

oooohhhh myyyyy......

[Runnin Panther]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
Easy garzia. If you were there you saw that after a sack inside the 5 our sophomore QB made a mistake of inexperience in trying to throw the ball while a defender was hanging on to him. The hit from the second defender knocked the ball free and into the endzone and AW recovered for a touchdown. 2 things, the coach should have called buses number up the middle and then punted if he could not get the 25-30 yards he needed for a first. With a 14 point lead at the time, the AW touchdown was huge. The second thing is QB was carrying the ball like a loaf of bread attempting to throw instead of protecting the ball. Good hit and defense to take advantage of the mistake, but it was a mistake. That is what we enjoy about Gilmer's gunslinging, we are coming at you hard all the time from any point on the field.

And my tank is full and I am headed to Waco for my team's State Championship game Saturday. What will you and your team be doing?
:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

Pawdaddy I don’t know how you can say that fumble was a mistake by Gilmer, giving no credit to defense. The QB was under heavy pressure caused by good defense and then a good hit. And further more I don’t think it’s cool that you question the coaches play calling after the play is done. If he would have thrown for a first down you would have been saying great call. Abilene and Gilmer coaches deserve more credit than that.

Not trying to start an argument and I know this is not my fight but had to put my two cent in.

[firstcat]

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Originally posted by hookandladder
I have no problem with the sticks or the bell, we used the propane bottles with steel ballbearings inside during our run for 2 years. What I do have a problem with is all the crap most LH fans are talking while they are winning, have you ever heard of being humble while winning. I will admitt LH is a very talented team for the last 2 years and I think most fans and posters on this board have given LH it's credit however it seems like the LH fans enjoy bragging on their team every chance they get. It's OK to be proud of your team, you just don't need to brag all the time. I have learned over many years that people that do this are usually very ignorant of the game and do not know how to how to respect it. Don't be so cocky and be a little more humble.
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It really does floor me when somebody makes a post like this.

It is not "disrespectful" to other teams for us to say we are good, and you don't hear LH complaining about the confidence other teams and fans might display.

I guess you would rather see a post that goes more like this:

"well, speaking as a true panther fan, I know we've had some good luck, and I'm not sure if we'll be able to keep it up, but if we do I sure will be glad, and you boys don't feel confident because every game this season has gone our way, you know any one of those games at any second, as close as they were, could have had a different result. We just need to sit back quietly and be thankful that we've been lucky enough to slip by so many times and get this far.
And as a class call to all you other LH fans, please don't tell anyone that you are proud, especially if you have a player on the team, because someone might mistake that for arrogance, and please don't tell anyone you think we have a chance of winning one more time because that would be bad sportsmanship. Boys...go do your best, but you know somebody has to lose, so let's cross our fingers and hope it isn't us."

Is that more to your liking?

H&L: When grapes go sour, you really should throw them out because they are of no further use, and tend to taint the fruit around them that is still producing.


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[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by Runnin Panther
Pawdaddy I don’t know how you can say that fumble was a mistake by Gilmer, giving no credit to defense. The QB was under heavy pressure caused by good defense and then a good hit. And further more I don’t think it’s cool that you question the coaches play calling after the play is done. If he would have thrown for a first down you would have been saying great call. Abilene and Gilmer coaches deserve more credit than that.

Not trying to start an argument and I know this is not my fight but had to put my two cent in.

You left off the "s" in cents, so I can only give you one. If you read the quote again, you will see I did give credit for good hit, and good defense. The mistake was the way the QB was carrying the ball. Study a little harder. You can overcome the Language Disorder with dedication and work.

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
WOW!! You just went "STR" on him!!:eek:

I guess I need you to tell me what "STR" is.:doh: :doh:

[Buckeye1980]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
gilmer sucks :tongue:


VERY mature

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Buckeye1980
VERY mature

VERY bad job of realizing sarcasm :D

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
VERY bad job of realizing sarcasm :D

It's actually hard to read sarcasm in a two word post:thinking: not much margin for error:D

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
I guess I need you to tell me what "STR" is.:doh: :doh:

LOL!! STR is the nickname of "Snydertigersrul" who NEVER passes up an opportunity to throw someone elses record back in their face....no matter HOW silly it makes him look!:p

[Runnin Panther]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
Easy garzia. If you were there you saw that after a sack inside the 5 our sophomore QB made a mistake of inexperience in trying to throw the ball while a defender was hanging on to him. The hit from the second defender knocked the ball free and into the endzone and AW recovered for a touchdown. 2 things, the coach should have called buses number up the middle and then punted if he could not get the 25-30 yards he needed for a first. With a 14 point lead at the time, the AW touchdown was huge. The second thing is QB was carrying the ball like a loaf of bread attempting to throw instead of protecting the ball. Good hit and defense to take advantage of the mistake, but it was a mistake. That is what we enjoy about Gilmer's gunslinging, we are coming at you hard all the time from any point on the field.

And my tank is full and I am headed to Waco for my team's State Championship game Saturday. What will you and your team be doing?
:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

You make is sound more like it’s the QB’s fault for carrying the ball like a loaf bread and only give the defense credit for hitting him at that time. You mention nothing about the tremendous pressure that caused him to be running around like that. The defense caused that play end of story. And if you want to fault your QB fine, but he carries the ball like a loaf of bread a lot. So I guess he makes lots of mistakes according to your analyses.

[waterboy]

Originally posted by Runnin Panther
That’s what I’m talking about. I smell Panther victory in the air.

I’m so pumped I don’t know if I will make it to Saturday.
:D Sure that ain't gas??!! :hand: 'Cause Gilmer WILL WIN THIS GAME!:)

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by Runnin Panther
You make is sound more like it’s the QB’s fault for carrying the ball like a loaf bread and only give the defense credit for hitting him at that time. You mention nothing about the tremendous pressure that caused him to be running around like that. The defense caused that play end of story. And if you want to fault your QB fine, but he carries the ball like a loaf of bread a lot. So I guess he makes lots of mistakes according to your analyses.

You are right. And the defense also caused that play that left 9 seconds left on the clock. End of game.

[firstcat]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
You left off the "s" in cents, so I can only give you one. If you read the quote again, you will see I did give credit for good hit, and good defense. The mistake was the way the QB was carrying the ball. Study a little harder. You can overcome the Language Disorder with dedication and work.

OH I KNOW HE DIDN'T!!!!!

If the gauntlet has been thrown down by Pawdaddy of Gilmer...then all I can say to him is, he might as well BOW DOWN with it, because there's a storm coming!

[LHPantherfanII]

I can't wait until Saturday!!!:cheerl:

[LHPantherfanII]

GO PANTHERS!!! Who ya rootin for ... L - H - H - S!!:cheerl:

[LHPantherfanII]

oops .. you know what i meant to do... :blush:

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by waterboy
:D Sure that ain't gas??!! :hand: 'Cause Gilmer WILL WIN THIS GAME!:)

and we are being accused of being arrogant? haha

[Runnin Panther]

It still just Wednesday...will Saturday never come

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by firstcat
OH I KNOW HE DIDN'T!!!!!

If the gauntlet has been thrown down by Pawdaddy of Gilmer...then all I can say to him is, he might as well BOW DOWN with it, because there's a storm coming!

:evillol: :evillol: :evillol: :evillol: :evillol: :evillol: :evillol: :evillol:

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Runnin Panther
It still just Wednesday...will Saturday never come

yes

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by firstcat
OH I KNOW HE DIDN'T!!!!!

If the gauntlet has been thrown down by Pawdaddy of Gilmer...then all I can say to him is, he might as well BOW DOWN with it, because there's a storm coming!

As I said in another post, any team, any time, any place.
That IS a thrown gauntlet, and as I have also said in another post, Tell LH we are coming. If any of you Panthers and Pantherettes (regardless of gender) think any of your smack will intimidate this team or their fans, you are full up to the neck of something that must be affecting you thought processes. Pass all of this on to your ballplayers, they are about to learn a hard lesson. :hand: :hand: :hand:

[Daddy D 11]

wow, you are lame bro.

you say that anything we say is not going to get to or effect our players, yet you tell us that we should be scared and to warn our players? you my friend are the epitamy of contradicting one statesments :clap:

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
As I said in another post, any team, any time, any place.
That IS a thrown gauntlet, and as I have also said in another post, Tell LH we are coming. If any of you Panthers and Pantherettes (regardless of gender) think any of your smack will intimidate this team or their fans, you are full up to the neck of something that must be affecting you thought processes. Pass all of this on to your ballplayers, they are about to learn a hard lesson. :hand: :hand: :hand:

I sure hope I win the Lotto tonight, so I can buy that lear-jet and go the LH vs Gilmer game and then fly down to Austin for the Cuero vs China Spring game........ gonna be a good one....

[waterboy]

Not being arrogant.....just confident. :D

It just feels good being the arrogant .... er....confident one this time!:D

[Daddy D 11]

if you are so confident, i would love to hear Gilmer fans HONEST reasons as to why (during the actual game) Gilmer will win?

[Runnin Panther]

Daddy D you and I both know Gilmer is not going to win, but lets play along and let them think they are until Saturday. :D :D :D

[Daddy D 11]

way to just come out and say it runnin panther, atleast now its all out in the open:)

[Runnin Panther]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
way to just come out and say it runnin panther, atleast now its all out in the open:)

Yah I was getting weary of all the back-and-forth and decided I would just lay it out there.

[Aesculus gilmus]

I've seen a video of a fight which erupted during a game (I believe it was last year) between Liberty Hill and Giddings.

What was the reason for that melee? Just curious.

[waterboy]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
if you are so confident, i would love to hear Gilmer fans HONEST reasons as to why (during the actual game) Gilmer will win?
Probably for the same reasons you think Liberty Hill will win. I just think Gilmer will be ready and are battle-tested. They have a goal just like LH does. One of these two teams (LH) will go home with the silver. Just my opinion, though. Don't take it to heart, LOL. I can't divulge the reasons behind my assertion. If I did, then you would know too much......:D

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by waterboy
One of these two teams (LH) will go home with the silver.
It might be silver "color" but comes in the form of white gold. :devil: :devil:

[firstcat]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
I've seen a video of a fight which erupted during a game (I believe it was last year) between Liberty Hill and Giddings.

What was the reason for that melee? Just curious.




for the same reasons that I hope you won't succomb to on Saturday evening....

they were losing their a$$ so then they lost their class!

[clemsmarina]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
I've seen a video of a fight which erupted during a game (I believe it was last year) between Liberty Hill and Giddings.

What was the reason for that melee? Just curious.

Did you see the 22 second one on Youtube? If so you only saw the edited version from a Giddings poster.

It was a heated battle in the trenches, and both linemen came out attached and both started swinging. Both were at fault, but the referees let it get to this point by not setting things straight earlier in the game with jawing and a few late hits.

[waterboy]

Originally posted by firstcat
for the same reasons that I hope you won't succomb to on Saturday evening....

they were losing their a$$ so then they lost their class!
OOOOH! Classy!! Cursing already??

[firstcat]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
As I said in another post, any team, any time, any place.
That IS a thrown gauntlet, and as I have also said in another post, Tell LH we are coming. If any of you Panthers and Pantherettes (regardless of gender) think any of your smack will intimidate this team or their fans, you are full up to the neck of something that must be affecting you thought processes. Pass all of this on to your ballplayers, they are about to learn a hard lesson. :hand: :hand: :hand:

Keep your gauntlet on the ground....your team's going to need company.

Oh and pawdaddy, just in case Running Panther isn't here to return the favor and critique your spelling....you left the "r" our of "your"

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
if you are so confident, i would love to hear Gilmer fans HONEST reasons as to why (during the actual game) Gilmer will win?

Not a Gilmer fan but I will give u reasons


The balanced offense with the size at OL for Gilmer can take over games...they can play grind it out( see TLE win) or they can play shootout( See Velt win)..Truly will mix it up with play selection

While they are not the typical East texas speed demons, they are very athletic , their big guys up front move well in space

I have said all along I dont honestly think either team will stop the other, so it comes down to who makes less mistakes,and who can score almost everytime they touch the ball

My pick

56-49

Not saying who wins, just my scoring pick

IMO neither side should be more than a 7 point favorite over the other.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Originally posted by firstcat
for the same reasons that I hope you won't succomb to on Saturday evening....

they were losing their a$$ so then they lost their class!

I can pretty much GUARANTEE you that Gilmer players will not EVER lose their composure to that extent, regardless of the score or outcome of the game.

Yes, the clip I saw was no more than 22 seconds long.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by waterboy
Probably for the same reasons you think Liberty Hill will win. I just think Gilmer will be ready and are battle-tested. They have a goal just like LH does. One of these two teams (LH) will go home with the silver. Just my opinion, though. Don't take it to heart, LOL. I can't divulge the reasons behind my assertion. If I did, then you would know too much......:D

that is true. i agree with the battle tested statement. but then again, our 4 playoff oppenents havnt been cupcake teams as much as we have just been flat out dominating people.

[firstcat]

Originally posted by waterboy
OOOOH! Classy!! Cursing already??


No cursing there. you are free to add whatever letters fit your bill...that is why symbols were used...wa wa wa waterboy.

[firstcat]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
I can pretty much GUARANTEE you that Gilmer players will not EVER lose their composure to that extent, regardless of the score or outcome of the game.

Yes, the clip I saw was no more than 22 seconds long.


All kidding aside, that is good to hear. Our boys have been well praised by our opponents coaches and players. It is evident that they all have class, when both teams are able to knock the heck out of each other and then help each other up, and give the "good game" smack on the rear...

[waterboy]

Originally posted by firstcat
Keep your gauntlet on the ground....your team's going to need company.

Oh and pawdaddy, just in case Running Panther isn't here to return the favor and critique your spelling....you left the "r" our of "your"
So....you mispelled out...:tongue:

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by firstcat
All kidding aside, that is good to hear. Our boys have been well praised by our opponents coaches and players. It is evident that they all have class, when both teams are able to knock the heck out of each other and then help each other up, and give the "good game" smack on the rear...

I hope that this game is as good as a game as the game last week between Wylie/Gilmer. Everything about that game was nothing but class. Kids competed their buttes off. Yes, I'm sure there was some trash talking going on, it's part of the game. But there was a lot of butt and head slapping going on in a positive and respectful way. After the game ended I've never seen two teams, coaches and parents included show more respect for one another than I saw last week. This game is for it all and it would be sad if the game ended on a bad note like the Roosevelt game.

Personally, I'm pulling for the Buckeyes. Like I said earlier this week. They have won me over. I do have a high regard for LH and their program and wish them well. Good Luck! I hope I can make the game:D

[waterboy]

Originally posted by firstcat
No cursing there. you are free to add whatever letters fit your bill...that is why symbols were used...wa wa wa waterboy.
You won't see me cursing.....won't stoop to your level....pussycat.

[firstcat]

Originally posted by waterboy
So....you mispelled out...:tongue:


you are too much fun, waterboy!

We Panthers like to do the back-and-forth with the opponents fans here on the board, and it is fun when we can razz each other
and still have respect for each other too.

As I see it, this is going to be the best game anyone has ever watched this year!
I don't think it will be a blow-out, but as a loyal fan, I do think our team will win. Can Gilmer win? They've proven that enough this year! I just don't think they will this time.
I can't wait, and thanks for helping me pass the time until Saturday!

Good luck and safe travel to all!

[waterboy]

Come on, man, it's just now getting good! Seriously, though, y'all be safe on the way to the game and back home after the game. It really should be a good 'un! Hard to say how these two teams will match up, but my bet is on them Buckeyes!:D

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
that is true. i agree with the battle tested statement. but then again, our 4 playoff oppenents havnt been cupcake teams as much as we have just been flat out dominating people.
D, your boys have not seen a team like Gilmer. Sorry, but there isn't one in Region III. Heck, there isn't one in 3A.

This is a matchup of offense vs. offense. Two teams whose strength rest upon entirely different aspects of their squad. For Liberty Hill, it's that slot T. Nobody's stopped it yet, and I doubt it'll happen this year.

For Gilmer, it's all those athletes thrown onto the field at the same time. The spread allows them to put all their skill kids on the field at the same time, including their Big XII-caliber receivers. They have (arguably) the best RB in the nation and they boast the most loaded OL in the state-- 1A through 5A-- as far as college-level talent. That's right, there isn't an o-line in the state in any classification that boasts more blue chippers than Gilmer. Not SLC, not Brenham, not LaMarque, not Highland Park, not any of the traditional college athlete-producing factories.

In my personal opinion, Liberty Hill is the underdog here. All joking aside, I don't see LH's defense stepping up and stopping the Buckeyes. Honestly, I was surprised at how well Wylie's defense held up against them, but after looking at some of this year's scores, it became obvious that Wylie's defense was stout. They only gave up 28 to a 4A top ten known for its offense.

Liberty Hill has a great shot at another state title, but don't expect Gilmer to be anything like Navasota or Carthage. Expect them to be like Cuero on 'roids.

[RKTech]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
As I said in another post, any team, any time, any place.
That IS a thrown gauntlet, and as I have also said in another post, Tell LH we are coming. If any of you Panthers and Pantherettes (regardless of gender) think any of your smack will intimidate this team or their fans, you are full up to the neck of something that must be affecting you thought processes. Pass all of this on to your ballplayers, they are about to learn a hard lesson. :hand: :hand: :hand:

oops.. somebody left the 'r' our of -your-... 'affecting you thought process'.. ? what was that comment about literacy directed at LH?

[wimbo_pro]

"Expect them to be like Cuero on 'roids."

??? You mean Cueroids????

[clemsmarina]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
D, your boys have not seen a team like Gilmer. Sorry, but there isn't one in Region III. Heck, there isn't one in 3A.

This is a matchup of offense vs. offense. Two teams whose strength rest upon entirely different aspects of their squad. For Liberty Hill, it's that slot T. Nobody's stopped it yet, and I doubt it'll happen this year.

For Gilmer, it's all those athletes thrown onto the field at the same time. The spread allows them to put all their skill kids on the field at the same time, including their Big XII-caliber receivers. They have (arguably) the best RB in the nation and they boast the most loaded OL in the state-- 1A through 5A-- as far as college-level talent. That's right, there isn't an o-line in the state in any classification that boasts more blue chippers than Gilmer. Not SLC, not Brenham, not LaMarque, not Highland Park, not any of the traditional college athlete-producing factories.

In my personal opinion, Liberty Hill is the underdog here. All joking aside, I don't see LH's defense stepping up and stopping the Buckeyes. Honestly, I was surprised at how well Wylie's defense held up against them, but after looking at some of this year's scores, it became obvious that Wylie's defense was stout. They only gave up 28 to a 4A top ten known for its offense.

Liberty Hill has a great shot at another state title, but don't expect Gilmer to be anything like Navasota or Carthage. Expect them to be like Cuero on 'roids.

Yep, we heard the same thing a year ago before the Celina game... Guess we'll just have to go ahead and play anyway!!!

[waterboy]

Originally posted by clemsmarina
Yep, we heard the same thing a year ago before the Celina game... Guess we'll just have to go ahead and play anyway!!!
Yeah, but this time he AIN'T KIDDING!!:D

[RKTech]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
"Expect them to be like Cuero on 'roids."

??? You mean Cueroids????

I think he means hemor... roids.

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by clemsmarina
Yep, we heard the same thing a year ago before the Celina game... Guess we'll just have to go ahead and play anyway!!!
Haha. I don't remember saying anything about Celina. I think most of that wind came from immediately north of D/FW.

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by clemsmarina
Yep, we heard the same thing a year ago before the Celina game... Guess we'll just have to go ahead and play anyway!!!

If nothing else, I can honestly say that there is "NO" comparison to Celina and Gilmer. Celina is a good team and a great program, and beating them is always a great accomphishment. But Gilmer may have more athletism on the offensive side of the ball than any team at any classification. Most of them don't play defense but they can and will if they have to in order to stop your high powered running game. I appreciate your compassion and loyalty to your Panthers. Your success the last few years is hard to match, but trust me when I say this. "You've never seen a team line up to play your Panthers with the offensive weapons and size of Gilmers". Are they beatable, heck YA!, we had them right wear we wanted them, but just could finish the deal. Win or lose, if you truely have class and are honest, you will have to come on here Monday and , "D_m", that was the most impressive looking bunch of guys I've ever seen. I doubt that there are many on the DL who have seen more high school games than I have, (that includes all four regions), since I was a college FB coach for 10 years and had to recruit all over the great state of Texas, and After seeing Gilmer twice I can attest to everything said.

[clemsmarina]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
Haha. I don't remember saying anything about Celina. I think most of that wind came from immediately north of D/FW.

I didn't mean we heard it from you, just that we've heard it before. ;)

I really don't think this game will be the high scoring spectacle most are predicting. I've been off a little these last few weeks, but not by much.... Both teams will be in the 20's.

Then, after the game, no matter the outcome, both teams will meet in the middle of the field, just like last years game!!!

[Panther One]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
D, your boys have not seen a team like Gilmer. Sorry, but there isn't one in Region III. Heck, there isn't one in 3A.

This is a matchup of offense vs. offense. Two teams whose strength rest upon entirely different aspects of their squad. For Liberty Hill, it's that slot T. Nobody's stopped it yet, and I doubt it'll happen this year.

For Gilmer, it's all those athletes thrown onto the field at the same time. The spread allows them to put all their skill kids on the field at the same time, including their Big XII-caliber receivers. They have (arguably) the best RB in the nation and they boast the most loaded OL in the state-- 1A through 5A-- as far as college-level talent. That's right, there isn't an o-line in the state in any classification that boasts more blue chippers than Gilmer. Not SLC, not Brenham, not LaMarque, not Highland Park, not any of the traditional college athlete-producing factories.

In my personal opinion, Liberty Hill is the underdog here. All joking aside, I don't see LH's defense stepping up and stopping the Buckeyes. Honestly, I was surprised at how well Wylie's defense held up against them, but after looking at some of this year's scores, it became obvious that Wylie's defense was stout. They only gave up 28 to a 4A top ten known for its offense.

Liberty Hill has a great shot at another state title, but don't expect Gilmer to be anything like Navasota or Carthage. Expect them to be like Cuero on 'roids.
This coming from the same guy that said Pleasanton would beat us 42-21. Russ, you're either smokin' some good weed or you just like to try to get underneath the Panther's skin. If Gilmer's offense is as good as you say, they should be hanging 60+ on their playoff opponents, because I know the 5A schools you mention could.

And there's nothing that impressive about Wylie holding Brownwood to 28, which was their season average, by the way. Burnet held the Lions to 12 the week after we hung 34 on the Bulldogs.

[clemsmarina]

Originally posted by Texasfootball2
If nothing else, I can honestly say that there is "NO" comparison to Celina and Gilmer. Celina is a good team and a great program, and beating them is always a great accomphishment. But Gilmer may have more athletism on the offensive side of the ball than any team at any classification. Most of them don't play defense but they can and will if they have to in order to stop your high powered running game. I appreciate your compassion and loyalty to your Panthers. Your success the last few years is hard to match, but trust me when I say this. "You've never seen a team line up to play your Panthers with the offensive weapons and size of Gilmers". Are they beatable, heck YA!, we had them right wear we wanted them, but just could finish the deal. Win or lose, if you truely have class and are honest, you will have to come on here Monday and , "D_m", that was the most impressive looking bunch of guys I've ever seen. I doubt that there are many on the DL who have seen more high school games than I have, (that includes all four regions), since I was a college FB coach for 10 years and had to recruit all over the great state of Texas, and After seeing Gilmer twice I can attest to everything said.

Oh well, since you have seen Gilmer twice, you are definitely more the expert than anyone else!!!

Have you seen Liberty Hill play this year?

Why would I have to come on here Monday to say what you want just to prove I have class? I personally do not care if you think I have class or not, it bears no relevance to this game! Thanks anyway though...

[Panther One]

Originally posted by Texasfootball2
But Gilmer may have more athletism on the offensive side of the ball than any team at any classification.
There seems to be a consensus on this message board given some of the recent "could this team beat that team" threads that a the top tier 3A school could not hang with the top tier 5A schools. Now we have people saying that Gilmer possibly has more athleticism on offense than any school in the state in any classification. If this were really true, wouldn't it stand to reason that the Buckeyes would have been lighting up the scoreboard on their 3A playoff foes? They should almost be scoring at will, right?

[RKTech]

Originally posted by Panther One
This coming from the same guy that said Pleasanton would beat us 42-21. Russ, you're either smokin' some good weed or you just like to try to get underneath the Panther's skin.


yep.. page 33 of the LH vs Pleasanton thread...

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by Panther One
This coming from the same guy that said Pleasanton would beat us 42-21. Russ, you're either smokin' some good weed or you just like to try to get underneath the Panther's skin. If Gilmer's offense is as good as you say, they should be hanging 60+ on their playoff opponents, because I know the 5A schools you mention could.

And there's nothing that impressive about Wylie holding Brownwood to 28, which was their season average, by the way. Burnet held the Lions to 12 the week after we hung 34 on the Bulldogs.
Hell yeah I wanted to get under your skin. I even PM'd eagles victory, IHStangFan, and a few others to get on board with me. It got old watching you guys argue about how badly you were going to beat Pleasanton, so I decided to give you someone to really argue with.

Hell, I'm buddies with TxChallenge, whose son plays for LH, so I was honestly rooting for LH. Just wanted to have a good time. And I did.

But anyways, here's (http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=2&nid=724353&yr=2007) a roster of Gilmer's senior offensive players. This isn't a full roster, mind you, and doesn't include juniors and sophomores. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I know when the level of competition is raised a few notches.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Panther One
There seems to be a consensus on this message board given some of the recent "could this team beat that team" threads that a the top tier 3A school could not hang with the top tier 5A schools. Now we have people saying that Gilmer possibly has more athleticism on offense than any school in the state in any classification. If this were really true, wouldn't it stand to reason that the Buckeyes would have been lighting up the scoreboard on their 3A playoff foes? They should almost be scoring at will, right?

Well seems to me 41-35-42-28 is not exactly a low scoring offense in the play-offs

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
Easy garzia. If you were there you saw that after a sack inside the 5 our sophomore QB made a mistake of inexperience in trying to throw the ball while a defender was hanging on to him. The hit from the second defender knocked the ball free and into the endzone and AW recovered for a touchdown. 2 things, the coach should have called buses number up the middle and then punted if he could not get the 25-30 yards he needed for a first. With a 14 point lead at the time, the AW touchdown was huge. The second thing is QB was carrying the ball like a loaf of bread attempting to throw instead of protecting the ball. Good hit and defense to take advantage of the mistake, but it was a mistake. That is what we enjoy about Gilmer's gunslinging, we are coming at you hard all the time from any point on the field.

And my tank is full and I am headed to Waco for my team's State Championship game Saturday. What will you and your team be doing?
:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

Your Q did an excellent job in that game! He made up for any mistake he might have made in the last two plays of the game! Great Q and he will only get better! :clap:

P.S. Hey! Thanks for asking! :D :D :D
Some of the team members will be playing basketball, others watching playoff games, and some just working hard waiting for next year! I'll be watching the Snyder game! And maybe filling my tank to catch your game Sat! Good Luck! Beat LH! :clap:

[Panther One]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
But anyways, here's (http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=2&nid=724353&yr=2007) a roster of Gilmer's senior offensive players. This isn't a full roster, mind you, and doesn't include juniors and sophomores. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I know when the level of competition is raised a few notches.
And you know what? They had all those guys last year (except for Tuminello who's at his third school now) plus Curtis Brown, G.J. Kinne, Jammell Kennedy, and Dominique Buchanan, and couldn't even make it out of the first round. And this year, their largest margin of victory in the playoffs is 15 points, coming over a team who entered at 5-5. So forgive me if I'm not shaking in my boots becasue they have a few guys listed on recruiting websites.

[Panther One]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Well seems to me 41-35-42-28 is not exactly a low scoring offense in the play-offs
So you're saying the top-tier 5A schools could only score between 28-42 points against teams like LE, Mabank, Roosevelt, and Wylie?

42-41-48-49 isn't too bad either...and we don't even have the most talent of any school in the state.

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by Panther One
And you know what? They had all those guys last year (except for Tuminello who's at his third school now) plus Curtis Brown, G.J. Kinne, Jammell Kennedy, and Dominique Buchanan, and couldn't even make it out of the first round. And this year, their largest margin of victory in the playoffs is 15 points, coming over a team who entered at 5-5. So forgive me if I'm not shaking in my boots becasue they have a few guys listed on recruiting websites.
You're right. They didn't make it out of the first round. They lost to Texarkana Liberty-Eylau. Just like four other teams during the playoffs.


Originally posted by Panther One
So you're saying the top-tier 5A schools could only score between 28-42 points against teams like LE, Mabank, Roosevelt, and Wylie?
No, I think he said this:


Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Well seems to me 41-35-42-28 is not exactly a low scoring offense in the play-offs

[waterboy]

Originally posted by Panther One
And you know what? They had all those guys last year (except for Tuminello who's at his third school now) plus Curtis Brown, G.J. Kinne, Jammell Kennedy, and Dominique Buchanan, and couldn't even make it out of the first round. And this year, their largest margin of victory in the playoffs is 15 points, coming over a team who entered at 5-5. So forgive me if I'm not shaking in my boots becasue they have a few guys listed on recruiting websites.
That 5-5 team (Liberty-Eylau) coulda beat 90 to 95% of all the 3A teams in Texas. 4 of their 5 losses came to tough 4A programs. They were the DEFENDING 3A Division I state champs.......just like Liberty Hill is the DEFENDING 3A Division II state champs. It is also my opinion that LE would've beaten LH if they'd played last year, but we'll never know that for sure.

BTW, you don't have to be scared to get beat!:D

[Panther One]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
You're right. They didn't make it out of the first round. They lost to Texarkana Liberty-Eylau. Just like four other teams during the playoffs.
But Gilmer is not like those four other teams. They are loaded with DI recruits.


Originally posted by big daddy russ
No, I think he said this
In that instance, I should have used implying rather than saying, but I think most people understood what I was getting at.

[Runnin Panther]

Originally posted by Texasfootball2
If nothing else, I can honestly say that there is "NO" comparison to Celina and Gilmer. Celina is a good team and a great program, and beating them is always a great accomphishment. But Gilmer may have more athletism on the offensive side of the ball than any team at any classification. Most of them don't play defense but they can and will if they have to in order to stop your high powered running game. I appreciate your compassion and loyalty to your Panthers. Your success the last few years is hard to match, but trust me when I say this. "You've never seen a team line up to play your Panthers with the offensive weapons and size of Gilmers". Are they beatable, heck YA!, we had them right wear we wanted them, but just could finish the deal. Win or lose, if you truely have class and are honest, you will have to come on here Monday and , "D_m", that was the most impressive looking bunch of guys I've ever seen. I doubt that there are many on the DL who have seen more high school games than I have, (that includes all four regions), since I was a college FB coach for 10 years and had to recruit all over the great state of Texas, and After seeing Gilmer twice I can attest to everything said.


Texasfootball2 I have been to 1000’s (average of about 2 to 3 games a week for 20 years) of football games in my life from 2A to the Pros and you may have been to more than I have but it sounds ridiculous for you to say that Gilmer has more athletism on offense than any team any classification. I’ve watched them on film and they do have some very good athletes and their offensive line will be the best we have faced. But I have seen 5A teams in central Texas this year that would absolutely kill Gilmer. Being a coach I am surprised you would make that statement.

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by Panther One
But Gilmer is not like those four other teams. They are loaded with DI recruits.


In that instance, I should have used implying rather than saying, but I think most people understood what I was getting at.
They are loaded, and they did lose. Which brings us back to the point that games are played on the field, not on paper. And on that note, I don't think you're blow out Gilmer the way you've been blowing out these other teams, as Daddy D implied.

And I was the one that said they had more college recruits than the 5A's, not TxB. It's because they do.

[Panther One]

Originally posted by waterboy
That 5-5 team (Liberty-Eylau) coulda beat 90 to 95% of all the 3A teams in Texas. 4 of their 5 losses came to tough 4A programs. They were the DEFENDING 3A Division I state champs.......just like Liberty Hill is the DEFENDING 3A Division II state champs. It is also my opinion that LE would've beaten LH if they'd played last year, but we'll never know that for sure.

BTW, you don't have to be scared to get beat!:D
It took overtime for LE to beat Wimberley this year, and that was in week four when Wimberley was still pretty bad. Nice try, but LE was not as good as you'd like to believe this year. I guess next your going to tell me that Mabank was better than their record, too, huh? And there's a big difference between being the defending state champ at 5-5 and the defending state champ at 9-0.

And I wish we could have faced LE last year to earn our outright 3A title.

[waterboy]

Originally posted by Panther One
It took overtime for LE to beat Wimberley this year, and that was in week four when Wimberley was still pretty bad. Nice try, but LE was not as good as you'd like to believe this year. I guess next your going to tell me that Mabank was better than their record, too, huh? And there's a big difference between being the defending state champ at 5-5 and the defending state champ at 9-0.

And I wish we could have faced LE last year to earn our outright 3A title.
That was THIS year and yes they struggled early in the year, but they got better as the year progressed.....to the point that I would say there's a possibility they could be still playing if they could have beat Gilmer. After all, they had to find a new identity....there was no way to replace Will Middlebrooks, their QB last year. He was not only an all-world athlete, he was THE team leader. Mabank is a totally different story, but I ain't getting into that one. And I doubt you'd wanted any part of Liberty-Eylau last year. Y'all wouldn't have been the DEFENDING state champion you are today. Just my opinion, though.:D

[tdsteele]

I am not sure LE could have beaten Roosevelt, but it would have been a tossup. There is no doubt in my mind that had LE gotten by Gilmer, they would have had a good shot at beating Roossevelt and they would still be playing.

[firstcat]

Originally posted by waterboy
Come on, man, it's just now getting good! Seriously, though, y'all be safe on the way to the game and back home after the game. It really should be a good 'un! Hard to say how these two teams will match up, but my bet is on them Buckeyes!:D

Maybe you can come over to our tailgate party! Just ask around from group to group for some 3A-downlow-ers...you'll get directed to us...might even give you a sausage wrap!!

Come on With the Come on!
(as quoted from the great Super-R)

[bobcat1]

I just want to say I back Region 2! Go Buckeyes! Shock the world!

[8HR]

Speaking of Super R...Where has he been???

[Daddy D 11]

when did i ever say that we were going to blow out gilmer big daddy russ? im reallll curious to see where you are pulling this one out of? :thinking:

[catdaddy]

I predict BOLDLY that if we don't win this game, Gilmer will be the state champs in Div I. http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/edoom/Flush.gif

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by catdaddy
I predict BOLDLY that if we don't win this game, Gilmer will be the state champs in Div I. http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/edoom/Flush.gif
Way to go out on a limb, there. :D

[catdaddy]

Way to go out on a limb, there.

Well as an East Texas boy, I would normally root for them but with two sons on the team it ain't gonna happen. Obviously, you are well aware that we (LH fans) are always respectful of other teams and cheer when their hurt players are able to get up and pray while they're down but it seems alot of people on this board forget we are just the fans and aren't on the field. Of course we're proud and excited but again we're mostly here to banter, cheer for our kids and have fun. Right Big Daddy Russ?http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/dvv/bash.gif

[bobcat1]

I agree with that. I pray no kid gets injured in any game this weekend or next.

I just want to say I back Region 2! Go Buckeyes! Shock the world!

[Super_R]

Originally posted by 8HR
Speaking of Super R...Where has he been???

I'm here boys and girls. I've been a little busy. I'm trying to get stuff sorted out for the holliday season. But there is always time for some football banter.

I have read that Gilmer has the best athletes in 3A...they have the biggest O line...the best runningback...the best receiver...the best O. They have the biggest D lineman...they have the best LB's they have the best D. If that is all true then good for them...they'll have a fighting chance.


LH has the #2 ranked offense
Gilmer has the #1 ranked offense

LH has the #12 ranked defense
Gilmer has the #27 ranked defense

Both the offensive #'s and defensive #'s were put up by LH playing the 11th toughest schedule...Gilmer put their #'s up playing the 48th toughest schedule.

We all know these #'s don't mean much...but, they mean alot more than the crap that some would try to pawn off as truth.

Here is a fact...LH has won 23 ball games in a row.

Here is another fact...LH is going to run the ball...Hell, everyone in the world knows that...yet...every week noone is able to stop them. Hell they haven't even been slowed down since my youngest was born and she's almost potty trained.

Oh...one more thing.

Come on with the come on!








Gilmer has played

[Daddy D 11]

theres my man :clap:

[bobcat1]

What did he say LH was going to do with that ball?


I just want to say I back Region 2! Go Buckeyes! Shock the world!

[duckpluck]

After the game Saturday, whoever wins, KMACSPORTS.com will be having a live postgame show on the field.
If you can't make the game listen live via webcast on KMACSPORTS.com

We go on the air at 3pm (1hour pre game show)

After the game, tune in for the postgame with interviews with players, coaches, and fans.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Panther One
And you know what? They had all those guys last year (except for Tuminello who's at his third school now) plus Curtis Brown, G.J. Kinne, Jammell Kennedy, and Dominique Buchanan, and couldn't even make it out of the first round. And this year, their largest margin of victory in the playoffs is 15 points, coming over a team who entered at 5-5. So forgive me if I'm not shaking in my boots becasue they have a few guys listed on recruiting websites.

Dont let the point differential of previous games against UNcommon opponents be your guiding post for which team is better. Look at key match-ups and ability to adjust offensive schemes and defensive attack plans during game time.

No telling which way this game will go. Its all about execution on game day.

If I were you, Panther One, I would assume Gilmer to be the very best team you have faced to date...well, since Wimberley in '05, of course!

[duckpluck]

This Gilmer team is the best team LH has faced all year. IMO

[Super_R]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Dont let the point differential of previous games against UNcommon opponents be your guiding post for which team is better. Look at key match-ups and ability to adjust offensive schemes and defensive attack plans during game time.

No telling which way this game will go. Its all about execution on game day.

If I were you, Panther One, I would assume Gilmer to be the very best team you have faced to date...well, since Wimberley in '05, of course!

We can let whatever we want be our guiding post...but, like you we don't matter. One thing is for sure. The Coaches of LH know what they are doing. They do more with less every day, week, month and year.

23 in a row!

Here is a commercial for Dr. Pepper...have LH's win streak in the commercial...23...wins for 23 flavors.

[GreenMachine]

Okay, I don't have a dog in this fight, but I like LH in this one. We all heard last year about the great Gilmer team and all their "studs" and they really disappointed. That was last year. My point is, you can have tons of D1 recruits, but if they don't play together, as a team, you're done. LH may not have one D1 recruit (don't know, just saying) but they play as a team and will run the ball down your throat. Their defense can be scored on, but they are rarely on the field, as their offense keeps it most of the game. So I expect a close game... but LH prevails ;)

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Super_R

LH has the #2 ranked offense
Gilmer has the #1 ranked offense

LH has the #12 ranked defense
Gilmer has the #27 ranked defense

Both the offensive #'s and defensive #'s were put up by LH playing the 11th toughest schedule...Gilmer put their #'s up playing the 48th toughest schedule.


I saw these stats earlier this week...as far as stats go, these are the ONLY ones that really have any bearing on the game, IMO.

Of course I want Gilmer to win, as almost all LH fans would want if it were Wimberley playing Gilmer.

But if I were a betting man, and HAD to place a bet...it would be with LH, based on these stats. It's all us outsiders have to go on...and pains me to admit.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Super_R
We can let whatever we want be our guiding post...but, like you we don't matter.

...and to think some Gilmer fans find LH fans to be cocky and loud-mouthed....go figure.

[lostaussie]

afte 27 pages of BS and 3 days of minding my own buisness, i have come to a conclusion. we got lots of part-timers on here that have really showed their ass. when it's all said and done, i'll still be here to take the congrats or take the lumps. most of the posters from the losing team won't. I joined this board about 6 months after we won our state championship in 2004 and have taken the good with the bad,justlike last years 1st round exit. i like to think that i am a well respected member of this board. what i have come to find out is, it is a shame that the fans can't act as good as the kids. I'll be at the game pulling for my boys, but i won't be trashin yours. Everybody chill on both sides, and enjoy what you are about to see. see you on saturday...........i'm out of here.

[wimbo_pro]

Good luck to you and your team, LostAussie.

[LHPfactory]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
I saw these stats earlier this week...as far as stats go, these are the ONLY ones that really have any bearing on the game, IMO.

Of course I want Gilmer to win, as almost all LH fans would want if it were Wimberley playing Gilmer.

But if I were a betting man, and HAD to place a bet...it would be with LH, based on these stats. It's all us outsiders have to go on...and pains me to admit.

Thats not all true, I was glad to see Wimberley win their district and make a respectable run in the play offs after a rough start.

The part about going with LH is very true though.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by LHPfactory
Thats not all true, I was glad to see Wimberley win their district and make a respectable run in the play offs after a rough start.

The part about going with LH is very true though.

You'll notice I said "almost all LH fans"...not all!!

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by lostaussie
afte 27 pages of BS and 3 days of minding my own buisness, i have come to a conclusion. we got lots of part-timers on here that have really showed their ass. when it's all said and done, i'll still be here to take the congrats or take the lumps. most of the posters from the losing team won't. I joined this board about 6 months after we won our state championship in 2004 and have taken the good with the bad,justlike last years 1st round exit. i like to think that i am a well respected member of this board. what i have come to find out is, it is a shame that the fans can't act as good as the kids. I'll be at the game pulling for my boys, but i won't be trashin yours. Everybody chill on both sides, and enjoy what you are about to see. see you on saturday...........i'm out of here.

Lost Aussie speaks the truth.

I just want to say I back Region 2! Go Buckeyes! Shock the world!

[LHPfactory]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro

If I were you, Panther One, I would assume Gilmer to be the very best team you have faced to date...well, since Wimberley in '05, of course!


Wimberley 05 vs LH 07, that would be a great game

[LHPfactory]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Lost Aussie speaks the truth.

I just want to say I back Region 2! Go Buckeyes! Shock the world!

Hows Celina doing hiding out in DII, yall may win one this year, of course you will have to get past Cuero, will be an interesting match up.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by LHPfactory
Wimberley 05 vs LH 07, that would be a great game

No doubt...always said if ever LH got a decent defense, watch out. Apparently they have gotten a pretty good one....maybe not as good as Code Red '05 (dont know for sure, havent really looked at the stats), but add to it the LH offense, and here you are.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by LHPfactory
Hows Celina doing hiding out in DII, yall may win one this year, of course you will have to get past Cuero, will be an interesting match up. We have to slip past Snyder first. 44inarow and I wanted that match up last year. It would be cool if we got it on. 2 Storied schools steeped in winning traditions forever meeting for everything. Classic in the making. We both have business at hand. China Spring and Snyder could be there as easy as we could.


I just want to say I back Region 2! Go Buckeyes! Shock the world!

[LHPfactory]

Originally posted by bobcat1
We have to slip past Snyder first. 44inarow and I wanted that match up last year. It would be cool if we got it on. 2 Storied schools steeped in winning traditions forever meeting for everything. Classic in the making. We both have business at hand. China Spring and Snyder could be there as easy as we could.


I just want to say I back Region 2! Go Buckeyes! Shock the world!

Might I suggest Austin as the meeting place;)

I would have to postpone my christmas trip an extra day for that game;)

And yeah, no doubt each will have their hands full this week, but I would bet that it will be Celina vs Cuero

[bobcat1]

That'd be fine with me. Whose side would you sit on?

I just want to say I back Region 2! Go Buckeyes! Shock the world!

[LH Panther Mom]

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/images/smilies/hijacked2.gif

[bobcat1]

I was asked a question. Back on track now. Go Gilmer!:)~


I just want to say I back Region 2! Go Buckeyes! Shock the world!

[Super_R]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro

Of course I want Gilmer to win, as almost all LH fans would want if it were Wimberley playing Gilmer.

But if I were a betting man, and HAD to place a bet...it would be with LH, based on these stats. It's all us outsiders have to go on...and pains me to admit.

I went to and was pulling for Wimberley in 05.

Unlike you, pulling for LH, for the past 2 years. How does that carma taste?

[LHPfactory]

Originally posted by bobcat1
That'd be fine with me. Whose side would you sit on?

I just want to say I back Region 2! Go Buckeyes! Shock the world!

:thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

You know I havent thought about it, I respect and admire both programs, that would be a tough decision.....

Of course after the shock the world flyer, id have to go with the guys in green, like to see a south team win over those two lesser regions up north;)

But seriously, LH beat Cuero, if LH wins (when LH wins) saturday, Cuero beats yall, LH owns everyone...........right?

[wimbo_pro]

Super_Retard,

It's spelled "Karma", Smartboy. And it tastes just fine to me...we already have an '07 State Championship ring in the family...which makes #5 over the last 2 years...so you will have to climb real high on Cocksure Hill to speak down to me, Sparky.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Super_Retard,

It's spelled "Karma", Smartboy. And it tastes just fine to me...we already have an '07 State Championship ring in the family...which makes #5 over the last 2 years...so you will have to climb real high on Cocksure Hill to speak down to me, Sparky.

.....

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by pirate4state
.....

Who allowed the peanut gallery in? LOL

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by lostaussie
afte 27 pages of BS and 3 days of minding my own buisness, i have come to a conclusion. we got lots of part-timers on here that have really showed their ass. when it's all said and done, i'll still be here to take the congrats or take the lumps. most of the posters from the losing team won't. I joined this board about 6 months after we won our state championship in 2004 and have taken the good with the bad,justlike last years 1st round exit. i like to think that i am a well respected member of this board. what i have come to find out is, it is a shame that the fans can't act as good as the kids. I'll be at the game pulling for my boys, but i won't be trashin yours. Everybody chill on both sides, and enjoy what you are about to see. see you on saturday...........i'm out of here. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Runnin Panther]

Originally posted by LHPfactory
:thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

You know I havent thought about it, I respect and admire both programs, that would be a tough decision.....

Of course after the shock the world flyer, id have to go with the guys in green, like to see a south team win over those two lesser regions up north;)

But seriously, LH beat Cuero, if LH wins (when LH wins) saturday, Cuero beats yall, LH owns everyone...........right?

That’s what I’m talking about. I like and respect Celina but I would have to back the boys in green, being from the south and all.

LH beat Gilmer
Cuero beat Celina

[Runnin Panther]

Originally posted by Super_R
I'm here boys and girls. I've been a little busy. I'm trying to get stuff sorted out for the holliday season. But there is always time for some football banter.

I have read that Gilmer has the best athletes in 3A...they have the biggest O line...the best runningback...the best receiver...the best O. They have the biggest D lineman...they have the best LB's they have the best D. If that is all true then good for them...they'll have a fighting chance.


LH has the #2 ranked offense
Gilmer has the #1 ranked offense

LH has the #12 ranked defense
Gilmer has the #27 ranked defense

Both the offensive #'s and defensive #'s were put up by LH playing the 11th toughest schedule...Gilmer put their #'s up playing the 48th toughest schedule.

We all know these #'s don't mean much...but, they mean alot more than the crap that some would try to pawn off as truth.

Here is a fact...LH has won 23 ball games in a row.

Here is another fact...LH is going to run the ball...Hell, everyone in the world knows that...yet...every week noone is able to stop them. Hell they haven't even been slowed down since my youngest was born and she's almost potty trained.

Oh...one more thing.

Come on with the come on!








Gilmer has played

Great post Super R. Glad to see you are back!!

[Super_R]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Super_Retard,

It's spelled "Karma", Smartboy. And it tastes just fine to me...we already have an '07 State Championship ring in the family...which makes #5 over the last 2 years...so you will have to climb real high on Cocksure Hill to speak down to me, Sparky.

I hit that nerve didn't I? Good job with the name calling and the spelling smack.

Football is what counts here.

[Daddy D 11]

gotta love the support that wimbo pro is giving :rolleyes: :thinking:

and whos really excited about the most likely horrible weather come saturday?! :eek: :(

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Super_R
I hit that nerve didn't I? Good job with the name calling and the spelling smack.

Football is what counts here.

Apparently the smack down worked...I musta hit something!!!

Once again, betting money says LH in this one...but not in a cake walk.

[Panther One]

Originally posted by waterboy
And I doubt you'd wanted any part of Liberty-Eylau last year. Y'all wouldn't have been the DEFENDING state champion you are today. Just my opinion, though.:D
You're entitled to your opinion. In my opinion, we would have hung 40+ on those boys last year and I don't think they would have outscored us. I think we beat better teams than them on our way to a championship. Most people around the state feel that the Div II championship game last year featured two better teams than the Div I game. Obviously people from Robinson, LE, and of course Gilmer will disagree with that.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
gotta love the support that wimbo pro is giving :rolleyes: :thinking:

and whos really excited about the most likely horrible weather come saturday?! :eek: :(

lol@Daddy D11...I bet neither side is loving it, since I hope for Gilmer to win, but think LH has the edge. Wish I could see the game, I got a feeling it might be the best game in years.

By the way, if we were still in the same district or even the same region, I would support LH (as I do Cuero now and did Hondo last year). They are not, so I am a "free agent" with my selections.

[Panther One]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Dont let the point differential of previous games against UNcommon opponents be your guiding post for which team is better. Look at key match-ups and ability to adjust offensive schemes and defensive attack plans during game time.

No telling which way this game will go. Its all about execution on game day.

If I were you, Panther One, I would assume Gilmer to be the very best team you have faced to date...well, since Wimberley in '05, of course!
I don't have to assume Gilmer will be the best team we've faced. I know they will be. But some people are throwing out all this DI players, best talent in the state stuff like we have no chance. I was just pointing out that three of their playoff opponents have gotten within one score and the other within two, so they aren't as unbeatable as some think, even with all their DI players.

[Panther One]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Of course I want Gilmer to win, as almost all LH fans would want if it were Wimberley playing Gilmer.
I wouldn't expect anything less from you, since you were rooting for Celina last year. That made me regret showing up in support for Wimberley against Gainesville two years ago.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Panther One
I don't have to assume Gilmer will be the best team we've faced. I know they will be. But some people are throwing out all this DI players, best talent in the state stuff like we have no chance. I was just pointing out that three of their playoff opponents have gotten within one score and the other within two, so they aren't as unbeatable as some think, even with all their DI players.

You are correct, they are not unbeatable, IMO. Nor is LH, I would say. But as I said a few posts ago...edge goes to LH in this one.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Panther One
I wouldn't expect anything less from you, since you were rooting for Celina last year. That made me regret showing up in support for Wimberley against Gainesville two years ago.

Too much bad blood Panther One...too much bad blood between the fans (not the players...I see your boys as every bit as much of class kids as ours). We can discuss in another thread if you wish, not in this one.

[Daddy D 11]

gotta love the support that wimbo pro is giving :rolleyes: :thinking:

and whos really excited about the most likely horrible weather come saturday?! :eek: :(

[wimbo_pro]

LOL@Daddy D11...we got it the 1st time!

[Daddy D 11]

huh?

[Panther One]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
LOL@Daddy D11...we got it the 1st time!
That's the first double post I've ever seen that has a 20 minute gap.

[wimbo_pro]

Yep...9:33pm was the first one!

[Bigworm]

Its not bad blood its a rivarly between these two towns.

[Daddy D 11]

oh, i got it. my computer is a slow SOB so it does some weird stuff from time to time. i had a feeling what you were talking about wimbo but i knew that i didnt double post, well at least not intentionally.

[Panther One]

And about the weather, what's wrong with cloudy, cold, and windy? That's playoff football! I love those types of games. One thing I'd like to do before I die is head up to Green Bay and watch a game in the snow.

[wimbo_pro]

I dont know how your computer could do it...it must have been the server itself...unless you actually posted it twice!

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Panther One
And about the weather, what's wrong with cloudy, cold, and windy? That's playoff football! I love those types of games. One thing I'd like to do before I die is head up to Green Bay and watch a game in the snow.
The weather is one more reason I give the edge to LH...better for a running team...and God knows LH is a running team.

[Panther One]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
The weather is one more reason I give the edge to LH...better for a running team...and God knows LH is a running team.
Gilmer is a running team, too. They've piled up over 4000 yards on the ground, so if they have to resort to just the run, I think they'll be okay.

[firstcat]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
theres my man :clap:

took the words right out of my mouth!!!!


COME ON WITH THE COME ON!!!

[firstcat]

Originally posted by Panther One
And about the weather, what's wrong with cloudy, cold, and windy? That's playoff football! I love those types of games. One thing I'd like to do before I die is head up to Green Bay and watch a game in the snow.

I wanted to take my family to Greenbay to watch their last game of the season against Detroit this year...and who knows? It may be Brett's last home game at Lambeau! They decided they would rather have gifts than a trip!!!! Geez!

[Runnin Panther]

One would think with all those D1 players and the best athletism in all classification that Gilmer has they would be hanging 70 on every team they have played this year.

So tell me Gilmer faithful what seems to be the problem? Is it coaching, lack of teamwork, lack of intensity… Why is Gilmer not slaying the obviously much less talented 3A competition?

Not being sarcastic, really want to know.

[Bigworm]

Why isnt this the game of the week???

[Super_R]

Originally posted by Runnin Panther
One would think with all those D1 players and the best athletism in all classification that Gilmer has they would be hanging 70 on every team they have played this year.

So tell me Gilmer faithful what seems to be the problem? Is it coaching, lack of teamwork, lack of intensity… Why is Gilmer not slaying the obviously much less talented 3A competition?

Not being sarcastic, really want to know.

They were scoring in 50s in the regular season. They played 5 teams that had 3 or less wins.

[Hill Man]

Today the Austin American Statesman on the Panthers and the game
The pursuit of perfection

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/highschool/12/13/1213libertyhill.html

Panthers - Born to run

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/highschool/12/13/1213libertyhilllist.html

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Hill Man
Today the Austin American Statesman on the Panthers and the game
The pursuit of perfection

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/highschool/12/13/1213libertyhill.html

Panthers - Born to run

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/highschool/12/13/1213libertyhilllist.html What!!!! LH getting props from the AAS!:eek:

[Hill Man]

Originally posted by Go Blue
What!!!! LH getting props from the AAS!:eek:

Amazing isnt it...

[firstcat]

Originally posted by Go Blue
What!!!! LH getting props from the AAS!:eek:

Their chain was rattled earlier in the week, and they promised some good coverage.

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by lostaussie
afte 27 pages of BS and 3 days of minding my own buisness, i have come to a conclusion. we got lots of part-timers on here that have really showed their ass. when it's all said and done, i'll still be here to take the congrats or take the lumps. most of the posters from the losing team won't. I joined this board about 6 months after we won our state championship in 2004 and have taken the good with the bad,justlike last years 1st round exit. i like to think that i am a well respected member of this board. what i have come to find out is, it is a shame that the fans can't act as good as the kids. I'll be at the game pulling for my boys, but i won't be trashin yours. Everybody chill on both sides, and enjoy what you are about to see. see you on saturday...........i'm out of here.

Amen:thumbsup: You da' Man Assie:D

[N4SIR]

A few things that I believe will ultimatley lead to LH's demise are 1. they won't be able to handle Gilmer's speed 2. Tuminello will come up big with some more awesome catches 3. I expect Gilmer to take as much as a 2 TD lead, forcing LH, a running team, to pass. Forcing them to pass will take them out of their comfort zone and will lead to turnovers or the ball going to Gilmer on downs.

[Daddy D 11]

the statesman sucks, its good to see them finally give us some credit :clap:

[Hill Man]

Originally posted by N4SIR
A few things that I believe will ultimatley lead to LH's demise are 1. they won't be able to handle Gilmer's speed 2. Tuminello will come up big with some more awesome catches 3. I expect Gilmer to take as much as a 2 TD lead, forcing LH, a running team, to pass. Forcing them to pass will take them out of their comfort zone and will lead to turnovers or the ball going to Gilmer on downs.

LH's comfort zone remains constant behind or in the lead.. We will poop you for long gains on the ground..

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by N4SIR
A few things that I believe will ultimatley lead to LH's demise are 1. they won't be able to handle Gilmer's speed

will yall be able to handle the slot t running all over you? :devil:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by N4SIR
A few things that I believe will ultimatley lead to LH's demise are 1. they won't be able to handle Gilmer's speed 2. Tuminello will come up big with some more awesome catches 3. I expect Gilmer to take as much as a 2 TD lead, forcing LH, a running team, to pass. Forcing them to pass will take them out of their comfort zone and will lead to turnovers or the ball going to Gilmer on downs.
You've got it all figured out. Good for you! :clap: :clap:

[Daddy D 11]

im hinting some sarcasm :rolleyes:

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by Hill Man
.. We will poop you for long gains on the ground..

Poop us......on the ground???? Is that fair????

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
im hinting some sarcasm :rolleyes:

LOL!!! Ya think??:D

[Daddy D 11]

im just soooo scared to think about how poor lill #74 for the panthers is not going to be able to handle the beastly linemen from Gilmer :confused:

[Bigworm]

Look for Santa Claus in the stands Gilmer :)

[N4SIR]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
You've got it all figured out. Good for you! :clap: :clap: Time will tell

[Daddy D 11]

why yes it will, too bad while waiting for that time to come you all have to live in denial ;)

[LH810]

has any Gilmer fans honestly seen our slot-t?:devil: :devil:

[Daddy D 11]

obviously they havent LH810, they still think they have a shot at winning:evillol:

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by Hill Man
LH's comfort zone remains constant behind or in the lead..

Gilmer has consistently jumped out on opponents this season before they could make the adjustments or Gilmer started running in their subs. How many points down is LH willing to get before their comfort zone is not so comfortable. You guys are something. There are going to a lot of Panther faithful crying buckets Saturday night.:bigcry: :weeping: :bigcry: :weeping: :bigcry:

[Daddy D 11]

im just trying to spark up some fun paw daddy, from one daddy to another, its all good :)

[Daddy D 11]

but i have to admit, its awful hard to jump out on people when your defense is on the field:thumbsup:

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by N4SIR
A few things that I believe will ultimatley lead to LH's demise are 1. they won't be able to handle Gilmer's speed 2. Tuminello will come up big with some more awesome catches 3. I expect Gilmer to take as much as a 2 TD lead, forcing LH, a running team, to pass. Forcing them to pass will take them out of their comfort zone and will lead to turnovers or the ball going to Gilmer on downs.

Welcome to the board, N4SIR. I think you have touched on some real issues that LH will "4sed" to deal with. It reminds me of the arrogance of the LE bunch with the huge banner that stated "2006, They Never Saw Us Coming." LH really has no clue.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
im hinting some sarcasm :rolleyes:
:confused: :confused: Sarcastic? Who, me? :p

[clemsmarina]

Originally posted by LH810
has any Gilmer fans honestly seen our slot-t?:devil: :devil:

Texasfootball2 has seen it all, and he is the "knower" of all. You may want to check with him....

[Bigworm]

I dont think they hav either Daddy D

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
im just trying to spark up some fun paw daddy, from one daddy to another, its all good :)

Amen, brother!! If it wasn't fun, I would not be here.

[clemsmarina]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
LH really has no clue.

Forgive us when we say the same thing...:rolleyes:

[Daddy D 11]

pawdaddy, we have seen the spread for the past 2 years, we have seen the great, amazing, whatever you want to call it east texas speed and every time our execution and discipline has overmatched our oppenents. we have heard every week that we have not seen ( blank teams ) speed, yet every week we return to the boards with the opposing team play basketball. One thing that definitly has a chance to be a problem is the fact that gilmer definitly does seem to be very weel coach and more disciplined, so we will all see that one play out.

but the question still stands, and im just going to take this as a no, but has any gilmer fans on here actually seen our slot-t?

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
im just soooo scared to think about how poor lill #74 for the panthers is not going to be able to handle the beastly linemen from Gilmer :confused:
:tongue: :tongue: I have done quite well NOT dwelling on this horrendous match up until now. Thanks a lot. :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by clemsmarina
Texasfootball2 has seen it all, and he is the "knower" of all. You may want to check with him....

Wrong Clemsmarina, I have seen Gilmer, I haven't seen LH. I can only go by what close friends who have seen LH tell me. To this point I don't remember disrespect LH in anyway. In fact I think I have give them some really good props on their reputation along. The only thing I have stated is that Gilmer is the most talented team I've seen on a High School Football field, and I assure you that I've seen many more games than you, and I've seen teams from every region and every corner of Texas.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
There are going to a lot of Panther faithful crying buckets Saturday night.:bigcry: :weeping: :bigcry: :weeping: :bigcry:

Last year, against Celina, I saw LH Panther Mom crying after the Saturday night game...................tears of joy!!:D

[Daddy D 11]

i do remember those props to our program texasfootball, so you are cool in my book ( not that you even care ) haha

[LH810]

Originally posted by LH810
has any Gilmer fans honestly seen our slot-t?:devil: :devil:

anyone going to answer this one?

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by LH810
anyone going to answer this one?
Jeopardy music playing in the background............

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by 44INAROW
Jeopardy music playing in the background............

LOL!!! Here ya go!!! (http://cyber-junkie.com/music/midis/midi4/jeopardy.mid)

[N4SIR]

Originally posted by LH810
anyone going to answer this one? It's like dog poop - I don't have to taste it to know I don't like it. Likewise, I don't have to see it to know that it can be beat.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
but the question still stands, and im just going to take this as a no, but has any gilmer fans on here actually seen our slot-t?

Yes, lostaussie was in Waco last year at the state championship game. Buckeye80 was in San Antonio for Hondo. Aside from those two KNOWN DL posters, I don't know if any of the newbies have seen ya'll play.

I guess it wouldn't be fun if ya'll just said "we respect the fact that it took, the kids alot of blood, sweat & tears (ok, maybe not tears) to get to this point - game on and may the best team win" :thinking:

I think both set of fans will be surprised by what each team brings to the table come Saturday and after it's all said & done, I hope all of you come back here and give props to the other!

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by N4SIR
It's like dog poop - I don't have to taste it to know I don't like it. Likewise, I don't have to see it to know that it can be beat.

Interesting analogy!!:eek:

[Bigworm]

It cannot be beat by Gilmer..

[Daddy D 11]

tell that to the last 23 teams that have succombed to it.

[Daddy D 11]

so if we win, will you roll around in that poop N4SIR? :)

[clemsmarina]

Originally posted by Texasfootball2
Wrong Clemsmarina, I have seen Gilmer, I haven't seen LH. I can only go by what close friends who have seen LH tell me. To this point I don't remember disrespect LH in anyway. In fact I think I have give them some really good props on their reputation along. The only thing I have stated is that Gilmer is the most talented team I've seen on a High School Football field, and I assure you that I've seen many more games than you, and I've seen teams from every region and every corner of Texas.

Actually you stated:
Gilmer may have more athletism on the offensive side of the ball than any team at any classification. Most of them don't play defense but they can and will if they have to in order to stop your high powered running game. I appreciate your compassion and loyalty to your Panthers. Your success the last few years is hard to match, but trust me when I say this. "You've never seen a team line up to play your Panthers with the offensive weapons and size of Gilmers".

So since you finally answered the question that you have never seen Liberty Hill play, how about you quit telling everyone how much more knowledge you have about this game?!?!

The only props you gave them was that they have done real well these last few years, and you wished them luck while saying how much football you have seen in your life... Who cares???

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by pirate4state
Yes, lostaussie was in Waco last year at the state championship game. Buckeye80 was in San Antonio for Hondo. Aside from those two KNOWN DL posters, I don't know if any of the newbies have seen ya'll play.

I guess it wouldn't be fun if ya'll just said "we respect the fact that it took, the kids alot of blood, sweat & tears (ok, maybe not tears) to get to this point - game on and may the best team win" :thinking:

I think both set of fans will be surprised by what each team brings to the table come Saturday and after it's all said & done, I hope all of you come back here and give props to the other!

Either way it turns out...there will be some MEGA crow eating, because there have been some MEGA boasts/promises/predictions from BOTH sides!!

I cringe reading some of them!!!

[charlesrixey]

this is all a bit unnecessary

For LH to be a prohibitive favorite is a bit rediculous

Gilmer is still a great team, and they have just as many state titles in the last several years as LH (if they win this one then all of this virgin mary panther talk will quickly disappear)

granted, i think Liberty Hill will win this one, but lets not get too far ahead of ourselves

(of course, i wish Liberty Hill was in Div. 2, but what can you do?)

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Either way it turns out...there will be some MEGA crow eating, because there have been some MEGA boasts/promises/predictions from BOTH sides!!

I cringe reading some of them!!!

Oh, believe me I know. Sometimes it's best just to ignore some people --- not EVERYTHING warrants a response! :rolleyes:

[Aesculus gilmus]

Several of you give the impression this "Slot T" is like some kind of magic spell that just sort of puts opposing defenses in some kind of catatonic trance.

Wish I could be there to see the magic show.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if LH scores 40 points or more, just as Jasper did against Gilmer in 2004. It may be, though, that Gilmer once again scores just a few more. Time will tell.

[N4SIR]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
tell that to the last 23 teams that have succombed to it. All good things must come to an end my friend --- and sadly for LH and there fans Saturday will be that day!

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
Several of you give the impression this "Slot T" is like some kind of magic spell that just sort of puts opposing defenses in some kind of catatonic trance.

Wish I could be there to see the magic show.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if LH scores 40 points or more, just as Jasper did against Gilmer in 2004. It may be, though, that Gilmer once again scores just a few more. Time will tell.

Do you attend ANY games?

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by pirate4state
Do you attend ANY games?

:eek: :eek:

That just made me think of somebody "else"!!:D

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by N4SIR
It's like dog poop - I don't have to taste it to know I don't like it. Likewise, I don't have to see it to know that it can be beat.

That is wisdom beyond his number of posts!!:clap: :clap: :clap:

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by charlesrixey


(of course, i wish Liberty Hill was in Div. 2, but what can you do?) :thinking:

nevermind.. I quoted and replied on the wrong thread.. (dayum customers interfering with my downlow time :mad: ) :D

[clemsmarina]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
Several of you give the impression this "Slot T" is like some kind of magic spell that just sort of puts opposing defenses in some kind of catatonic trance.

Wish I could be there to see the magic show.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if LH scores 40 points or more, just as Jasper did against Gilmer in 2004. It may be, though, that Gilmer once again scores just a few more. Time will tell.

Nah, actually we just keep responding to the posts that say a one dimensional team won't be able to win because of the speed and athleticism of "said" team each week.

We know Gilmer is real good, or they wouldn't have accomplished what they have! Sometimes people claim to know everything about a game before it is played, because they have seen more games than anyone else, and we simply ask if they have seen Liberty Hill play this year....then we get to this point!!!

We know it's going to be an awesome game, and we show support for our players like everyone else does for thiers.

[LHPantherfanII]

This is the longest freakin week ... C'mon Saturday!!!

[waterboy]

Originally posted by Panther One
You're entitled to your opinion. In my opinion, we would have hung 40+ on those boys last year and I don't think they would have outscored us. I think we beat better teams than them on our way to a championship. Most people around the state feel that the Div II championship game last year featured two better teams than the Div I game. Obviously people from Robinson, LE, and of course Gilmer will disagree with that.
Quite the contrary. I think Liberty-Eylau was the best team in 3A last year. They had just hit their stride when the playoffs began. Even though some of their playoff games were close, I still say they would've found a way to beat any other team they played. Call it karma or whatever, it just happened that way in the playoffs for LE last year. Sort of like this Gilmer team this year as far as karma in the playoffs. Just my opinion, though.:D

[Aesculus gilmus]

Originally posted by pirate4state
Do you attend ANY games?

I'll tell you what cured me of attending any more games this season. I was at the Area game against Mabank three weeks ago and was not adequately prepared for the 40-degree weather with steady 20-25 mph NNE wind and driving rain throughout much of the game.

I am still recovering from that one. It took several hours for feeling to return to my extremities. I'm not a young man. :D

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
I'll tell you what cured me of attending any more games this season. I was at the Area game against Mabank three weeks ago and was not adequately prepared for the 40-degree weather with steady 20-25 mph NNE wind and driving rain throughout much of the game.

I am still recovering from that one. It took several hours for feeling to return to my extremities. I'm not a young man. :D

I was at that game!! It was very cold. I guess I'm just younger or crazier than you b/c I've attended a few games since that one!! ;) :p :p :D

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
I'll tell you what cured me of attending any more games this season. I was at the Area game against Mabank three weeks ago and was not adequately prepared for the 40-degree weather with steady 20-25 mph NNE wind and driving rain throughout much of the game.

I am still recovering from that one. It took several hours for feeling to return to my extremities. I'm not a young man. :D

I may not know a whole lot about the X's and O's of the game....but I DO know that past November, you never go to ANY game (no matter WHAT the forecast) without a jacket, heavy coat, headband/ear warmer thingy, gloves, several blankets, extra socks and last but not least "hot hands"!!:D

[Pawdaddy]

I made a post last week that caught some flak, but has since turned to fact. This week Gilmer will either win or not win, but either Gilmer will win or be beaten by the State Champion. The original post noted that since 2003, either Gilmer won it all, was beaten by the eventual State Champion, or was beaten out in a historic game (3rd highest scoring game in Texas High School Football Playoff history). It took 61 to win that game. I really do not think LH is ready for the storm.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I may not know a whole lot about the X's and O's of the game....but I DO know that past November, you never go to ANY game (no matter WHAT the forecast) without a jacket, heavy coat, headband/ear warmer thingy, gloves, several blankets, extra socks and last but not least "hot hands"!!:D

Wait until you see the back of my Trailblazer!! I have about 5 different coats back there, a blanket, a raincoat and thanks for reminding me that I need to go out and buy some gloves! Not having gloves at the Mabank game almost KILLED me!! :weeping: My hands were FROZEN!! I don't like wearing anything on my ears. I'll just one of my many hoodies to cover my head.

:D

[N4SIR]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
I made a post last week that caught some flak, but has since turned to fact. This week Gilmer will either win or not win, but either Gilmer will win or be beaten by the State Champion. The original post noted that since 2003, either Gilmer won it all, was beaten by the eventual State Champion, or was beaten out in a historic game (3rd highest scoring game in Texas High School Football Playoff history). It took 61 to win that game. I really do not think LH is ready for the storm. They will be Thunderstruck alright