Div II State Championship: Carthage vs Graham [Archive] - Page 3

rolldawgs

12-17-2009, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by Z-RO
it is something to talk about because this thread is pretty dead besides rolldawgs "not trying to be biased" but very biased posts.

Of course I'm biased; I'm very biased toward Carthage; that's what makes me a fan. Not sure why you put that in quotes, because it wasn't part of my posts.

BTW, I heard something completely different that both of you guys. I heard that a certain stadium promoter threatened both coaches with bodily harm unless they played at Royse City, and they chose SMU knowing that he refused to show up there.

I'm keeding, I'm keeding....a lot of folks probably didn't see those posts at the beginning of the week and don't get the joke anyway....

Z-RO

12-17-2009, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by Deuce
Only kidding with Z-RO!! Just trying to stir things up a bit.

http://www.the-mainboard.com/forum/Smileys/default/whyioughta.gif

j/p :thumbsup:

Deuce

12-17-2009, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by rolldawgs
Of course I'm biased; I'm very biased toward Carthage; that's what makes me a fan. Not sure why you put that in quotes, because it wasn't part of my posts.

BTW, I heard something completely different that both of you guys. I heard that a certain stadium promoter threatened both coaches with bodily harm unless they played at Royse City, and they chose SMU knowing that he refused to show up there.

I'm keeding, I'm keeding....a lot of folks probably didn't see those posts at the beginning of the week and don't get the joke anyway....

Yeah, I like your story better.:clap:

grahampaw

12-17-2009, 05:33 PM

I never thought I whould say it but,this thread needs Daddy Duh back.Or maybe a late input from the Downlow Superstar Rocket.

wimbo_pro

12-17-2009, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by grahampaw
I never thought I whould say it but,this thread needs Daddy Duh back.Or maybe a late input from the Downlow Superstar Rocket.

Yeah...we are running a bit low on gas. Let's pick up our game a tad...

You're an idiot!!!

Inmateboss

12-17-2009, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Yeah...we are running a bit low on gas. Let's pick up our game a tad...

You're an idiot!!!

Rocket would have used " Ignoramus", or some other Rocketitsis!!

Bullaholic

12-17-2009, 05:57 PM

Is this year's Carthage team as good as the 08' team? How much will the 09' team miss Dwight Smith in this game?

gameface

12-17-2009, 06:03 PM

ok-present time consciousness-go Steers! winbro-pro, fast forward to 2010: go LG in final vs. Brownwood! Good luck Graham-remember, quick pass and diversions equals points! Hope PepRally is fun and let the town of Graham party!

oldtownag

12-17-2009, 06:49 PM

Here is a good news story on the Carthage Linemen (http://www.news-journal.com/sports/content/sports/stories/2009/12/17/12172009_carthagefootball.html)

TRENCHES06

12-17-2009, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by gameface
Hook-we have incredible talent coming back on both sides of the ball next year for LG. We need to make sure Wilkerson's appetite for passes is satisfied! We'll miss Josh Schneider's incredible touch but hopefully we'll see potential QB's at football camps and practice throwing with dad in front yard on Pecan Street!? Hopefully LG can have another Homer and Applewhite in one package!? No pressure-just see raw talent and know the strong athletic genetic potential. Oh, by the way, did you know that such natural ability skips generations-Leslie gets all the credit! :) Go Steers-I'm for the underdawgs vs. the dawgs!!

There will probably be a 4 man race for QB in the spring. Hopefully one will step up the commitment to football and lead the next group of hungry leopards!

wimbo_pro

12-17-2009, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by gameface
ok-present time consciousness-go Steers! winbro-pro, fast forward to 2010: go LG in final vs. Brownwood! Good luck Graham-remember, quick pass and diversions equals points! Hope PepRally is fun and let the town of Graham party!

LOL..there ya go! although I think Wimberley will be a contender next year, I think the following year (2011) is the "meat" of our talent pool...but you never know.

Old Tiger

12-17-2009, 08:32 PM

How good is Graham's front seven? They'll need to play lights out to have a chance against what I think is probably one of the best 3A offensive lines of all time.

Tromboneking

12-17-2009, 09:00 PM

This thread is actually pretty funny to read. Carthage is the best line of all time in 3a.....they are the strongest in this, best in that...

do they crap silver dollars?

Notice something else...the poll at the top of the page...pretty close don't you think....evidentally some people think Graham has a shot...

HUMMM......

oldtownag

12-17-2009, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by Tromboneking
[BNotice something else...the poll at the top of the page...pretty close don't you think....evidentally some people think Graham has a shot...

HUMMM...... [/B]

That is because all 92 people in Graham with a computer have voted.

Z-RO

12-17-2009, 09:28 PM

Seen video, Carthage is good....but not exactly what I expected. Ill just leave it at that.

Side note: How did La Grange make it that far? Region 4 Div II must have been weaker then I thought.

Side note #2: Mexia let Carthage off the hook, they REALLY needed a kicker

SWAS009

12-17-2009, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by Z-RO
Seen video, Carthage is good....but not exactly what I expected. Ill just leave it at that.

Side note: How did La Grange make it that far? Region 4 Div II must have been weaker then I thought.

Side note #2: Mexia let Carthage off the hook, they REALLY needed a kicker

That's just it, they aren't as advertised. Yes, they played 4a teams, but look at the record of those 4a teams, pathetic.
and 92 people with a computer in graham? Ya'll think we're nothing. A bunch of rednecks without internet? Well then as someone said last week on the gilmer poll.

"why don't you just go get a cheesecake, and get a big ole' dr. pepper to drink, you got it in the bag."

Not, we will roll over for no one. If, you really think in your heart that a bunch of nobodies would make it this fr, get ready for a good bu t kickin.

Rustler

12-17-2009, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by grahampaw
I never thought I whould say it but,this thread needs Daddy Duh back.Or maybe a late input from the Downlow Superstar Rocket. :hand: NO it does need self-proclaimed "Daddy" back!:hand:

rolldawgs

12-18-2009, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by Bullaholic
Is this year's Carthage team as good as the 08' team? How much will the 09' team miss Dwight Smith in this game?

IMO, the '09 team's Senior offensive line gives them the edge over '08.
The o-line was obviously good last year, but it sometimes took the freakish talent of Mr. Smith to turn what looked like a five-yard hole into an 80 yard juke-and-go. If he ran behind this year's line, it really wouldn't be fair. Of course Carthage would like to still have him, but...

...the o-line has stepped up their game to the point that the skill positions operate that much more efficiently around them.
The very talented O'Bryan Washington takes yardage in big chunks while QB Morgan is able to run through multiple reads to pick defenses apart. So..losing him has been minimalized. Losing him in the middle of last year might have been the end of the run, but this year's offense executes so well that they don't seem to miss him.

Here's a question for YOU. Only saw the final scores, but it looks like your Bulls gave Graham all they wanted both times. What was it that kept you guys from getting past them?

Tromboneking

12-18-2009, 12:45 AM

Carthage goes for two straight

Carthage goes for two straight
1:15
By Coleman Swierc - bio | email

CARTHAGE, TEXAS (KLTV) - With just one more win, the Carthage Bulldogs will stake their claim as the best football team in East Texas.

The Bulldogs will play in the 3A Division II title game on Saturday against the Steers of Graham High School.

They will also be playing the McCoy family, yes, that McCoy family, the father and younger brother of Colt McCoy.

"We knew that Colt would be there coming off the Heisman trophy presentation last week," said Carthage head coach Scott Surratt, "I know he didn't get it, but he was there. I think that's pretty cool."

Some of the players, not so cordial towards playing the McCoy family.

"Because it's the big name McCoy versus little Morgan that nobody knows about," said quarterback Anthony Morgan, "I just want to demolish them. I just want to beat them and beat their face in."

"I think it will be pretty cool because I'm not a Texas fan myself," said receiver Jalen Claiborne, "I'm an Oklahoma fan."

The Bulldogs are coming off a win over La Grange in the semi's, while McCoy and the Steers knocked off fellow East Texan Pittsburg.

The title game is set for 6:00 from Gerald Ford Stadium at SMU.

WOW..very classy Mr. Morgan...

Tromboneking

12-18-2009, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by rolldawgs
IMO, the '09 team's Senior offensive line gives them the edge over '08.

Here's a question for YOU. Only saw the final scores, but it looks like your Bulls gave Graham all they wanted both times. What was it that kept you guys from getting past them?

Because Bridgeport was a great team. Pure and simple...

Let me throw it back to you...I was looking earlier this evening at the records of the teams Carthage played during the regular season. Did any of them have better than a 5-5 record? Most of them had losing records...so yeah...tough games..

Graham had a harder schedule against better teams.

May the best team win.

txsfootball4lif

12-18-2009, 02:20 AM

One day away from kick off! Ha I can't wait!

Leopards,class of 75

12-18-2009, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by oldtownag
That is because all 92 people in Graham with a computer have voted. I voted for Graham and dont live there.

steerz2010

12-18-2009, 07:17 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tromboneking
[B]Carthage goes for two straight

"Because it's the big name McCoy versus little Morgan that nobody knows about," said quarterback Anthony Morgan, "I just want to demolish them. I just want to beat them and beat their face in."

Them's fight'in words!!! Hope he backs them up...

steerz2010

12-18-2009, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by steerz2010
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tromboneking
[B]Carthage goes for two straight

"Because it's the big name McCoy versus little Morgan that nobody knows about," said quarterback Anthony Morgan, "I just want to demolish them. I just want to beat them and beat their face in."

Them's fight'in words!!! Hope he backs them up...

Man thats awesome... I am printing that out and taking it to school... Thanks for the firewood homie....

Deuce

12-18-2009, 08:46 AM

I just love how everyone wants to bash on the McCoys because of Colt's success. "Beat their face in" huh! I bet our D will have something to say about that.

Z-RO

12-18-2009, 08:47 AM

WOW....WHY would you say something like that? It's not like Graham didnt already have a chip on their shoulder with the underdog role.:crazy:

Deuce

12-18-2009, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by Z-RO
WOW....WHY would you say something like that? It's not like Graham didnt already have a chip on their shoulder with the underdog role.:crazy:

This will not even come close to fueling the fire as to what they sent to the GISD field house. Coaches really used that as some fuel last night at the pep rally. I am not going to be the first to say what they did, but I know those boys last night had fire in their eyes when the superintendent was talking about it. And by the way props to the Graham fans last night at the pep rally. I bet there was well over 500 people that showed up to raise a little cain on the court house lawn, and Coach McCoy delivered a hell of a speach!!

Z-RO

12-18-2009, 09:04 AM

What did they send to the field house? If you dont want to post it could you PM me?

Bullaholic

12-18-2009, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by Tromboneking
Because Bridgeport was a great team. Pure and simple...

Let me throw it back to you...I was looking earlier this evening at the records of the teams Carthage played during the regular season. Did any of them have better than a 5-5 record? Most of them had losing records...so yeah...tough games..

Graham had a harder schedule against better teams.

May the best team win.

Thanks for the props, TBone. In all honesty, the Bulls were a very good team, but probably not a great team. Bridgeport has a lot of familiarity with Graham---they run practically the same offense and anytime you play a team twice in the same season it is very hard to win them both---Graham did, and I hope I can say the Bulls lost twice to the eventual DII state champion.

Cheers for Steers! Go win that first State Title Saturday!

lostaussie

12-18-2009, 10:34 AM

fixing to leave to go take out a few more hogs, deer and whatever else gets in my way. Tomorrow night I will catch my last high school game of the year in Wichita Falls. As for this one.............good luck to both!!!! Safe travels for all and and injury free game..............may the best team win............and I'm sure they will:devil:

BwdLion73

12-18-2009, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by Deuce
This will not even come close to fueling the fire as to what they sent to the GISD field house. Coaches really used that as some fuel last night at the pep rally. I am not going to be the first to say what they did, but I know those boys last night had fire in their eyes when the superintendent was talking about it. And by the way props to the Graham fans last night at the pep rally. I bet there was well over 500 people that showed up to raise a little cain on the court house lawn, and Coach McCoy delivered a hell of a speach!!

Well if the super talked to the kids at an open pep rally about it why is it so hush hush?:thinking:

oldtooflessdawg

12-18-2009, 12:41 PM

Someone from Carthage sent a funeral wreath to the Graham school. Wow.

1st&10

12-18-2009, 12:47 PM

First of all I am from Pittsburg and have a fair knowledge of the Steers and their offense and defense. If the Bulldogs can put pressure on McCoy then look for a few turnovers. He doesn't throw the ball as well as when he has time to stand in the pocket and pick on the weaker DB's. The Bulldogs will have better pass coverage and will be able to put pressure on the QB. That is just a fact. Credit to the front of the Steers DL. They are quick and stronger than they look but, the OL of the Bulldogs should be able to open holes that were not there in the Pitt game. It also should be noted that the RB from Pitt was playing on a bad leg....not offering excuses just stating another fact. If the RB for the Bulldogs is healthy then he should be able to hit the holes quicker than Pitt's RB. Without a doubt the Steers can be passed on and this will further open up the running game for the Bulldogs. Best of luck to both teams and I wish that I could be there.

Bulldogs 35
Steers 17

Z-RO

12-18-2009, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by 1st&10
First of all I am from Pittsburg and have a fair knowledge of the Steers and their offense and defense. If the Bulldogs can put pressure on McCoy then look for a few turnovers. He doesn't throw the ball as well as when he has time to stand in the pocket and pick on the weaker DB's. The Bulldogs will have better pass coverage and will be able to put pressure on the QB. That is just a fact. Credit to the front of the Steers DL. They are quick and stronger than they look but, the OL of the Bulldogs should be able to open holes that were not there in the Pitt game. It also should be noted that the RB from Pitt was playing on a bad leg....not offering excuses just stating another fact. If the RB for the Bulldogs is healthy then he should be able to hit the holes quicker than Pitt's RB. Without a doubt the Steers can be passed on and this will further open up the running game for the Bulldogs. Best of luck to both teams and I wish that I could be there.

Bulldogs 35
Steers 17

A Pittsburg poster that JUST NOW decided to show up? :rolleyes: Whatever

SWAS009

12-18-2009, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by 1st&10
First of all I am from Pittsburg and have a fair knowledge of the Steers and their offense and defense. If the Bulldogs can put pressure on McCoy then look for a few turnovers. He doesn't throw the ball as well as when he has time to stand in the pocket and pick on the weaker DB's. The Bulldogs will have better pass coverage and will be able to put pressure on the QB. That is just a fact. Credit to the front of the Steers DL. They are quick and stronger than they look but, the OL of the Bulldogs should be able to open holes that were not there in the Pitt game. It also should be noted that the RB from Pitt was playing on a bad leg....not offering excuses just stating another fact. If the RB for the Bulldogs is healthy then he should be able to hit the holes quicker than Pitt's RB. Without a doubt the Steers can be passed on and this will further open up the running game for the Bulldogs. Best of luck to both teams and I wish that I could be there.

Bulldogs 35
Steers 17

Burns isn't the whole team, they could of pulled it through without him. But, graham always finds a way to face the adversity ahead of them, and other than the final seconds at Brownwood, they have done it. Carthage sending the funeral reef was just plain ridiculous.

grahampaw

12-18-2009, 02:01 PM

Just a thought.........we all know that the only ones on here thinking Graham is going to win are homers, myself included.If Pittsburg had went on to win how whould this thread be going.My thinking is that everyone on here whould be thinking it whould be a dogfight and alot more people whould give Pitt a better chance then they are giving Graham.I keep hearing how Graham is going to be surprised and overwhelmed by the Bulldogs but I am not so sure the entire state outside of our district will be shocked at how this turns out the other way.

Graham 27 Cartage 21

1st&10

12-18-2009, 02:02 PM

If I am wrong I will come back and give props to the Steers. Don't think so....and what difference does it make when you post?

grahampaw

12-18-2009, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by 1st&10
If I am wrong I will come back and give props to the Steers. Don't think so....and what difference does it make when you post? 1st & 10 I aggree with you but just wondering .....Do you think yall whould match up better with Carthage?And do you think alot more people whould be picking yall if you had won the game?

Z-RO

12-18-2009, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by 1st&10
If I am wrong I will come back and give props to the Steers. Don't think so....and what difference does it make when you post?

I just dont think you are from Pittsburg. I think somebody from Carthage created a name and is blowing them up more then what everybody else has. You would think that with Pittsburg making a deep run you would have shown your head before now, especially in a thread that has nothing to do with Pittsburg.

1st&10

12-18-2009, 02:16 PM

I think that most people would still pick the Bulldogs over us except some of the teams that we have beaten. Repeating is difficult but if you have the players I believe that it works in your behalf. I do believe that we could move the ball on the Bulldogs but they would be able to move on us. Would have been a fun game....All East Texas.

1st&10

12-18-2009, 02:22 PM

No, I am from Pittsburg and as far as showing up just now....well I believe that the less said before you play a game the better off you are. If was a difficult loss to take. After the season is over go watch the game film again between Pitt/Steers. Both had turnovers that cost them points. Take a very close look at the last play of the 1st half and the last play of the game. You won and that is the way it goes...We will be back and make another deep run next year. Maybe sometime in August we can decide when the right time to post is and isn't. Best of luck.

SWAS009

12-18-2009, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by 1st&10
No, I am from Pittsburg and as far as showing up just now....well I believe that the less said before you play a game the better off you are. If was a difficult loss to take. After the season is over go watch the game film again between Pitt/Steers. Both had turnovers that cost them points. Take a very close look at the last play of the 1st half and the last play of the game. You won and that is the way it goes...We will be back and make another deep run next year. Maybe sometime in August we can decide when the right time to post is and isn't. Best of luck.

Everyone says that we won't match up with Carthage because their size. I don't think they get much bigger than #78 for pitt is.

http://flynnpc.smugmug.com/Sports/GHS-Football/2009-FB-Pittsburg/10652280_pqfrH#741552884_gL39W-A-LB

79 in the background was no push-over either. We do what we have to do to win. nuff said.

Old Tiger

12-18-2009, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by Tromboneking
This thread is actually pretty funny to read. Carthage is the best line of all time in 3a.....they are the strongest in this, best in that...

You do know that the 4 senior offensive linemen on Carthage team has been starting since they were sophomores, right? Those guys are big and physical.

Ragin Red

12-18-2009, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by 1st&10
No, I am from Pittsburg and as far as showing up just now....well I believe that the less said before you play a game the better off you are. If was a difficult loss to take. After the season is over go watch the game film again between Pitt/Steers. Both had turnovers that cost them points. Take a very close look at the last play of the 1st half and the last play of the game. You won and that is the way it goes...We will be back and make another deep run next year. Maybe sometime in August we can decide when the right time to post is and isn't. Best of luck.

Haven't said much about this but what about that backward pass that should have been called a fumble and TD that wasn't. Don't go and say anything about half-time play. It's over with move on and good luck next year to Pittsburg.

P.S. The standing behind your team at the end shows the sportsmanship that our Team has been taught....... Please pass this on to some of your posters who have shown ill will towards our team because of this.

1st&10

12-18-2009, 04:15 PM

If you have read my posts I believe that I have made it clear that the game is over and we will wait until August to play again. I don't believe that anyone took the standing behind our team as anything but what it was....but #63 coming to our stands and pumping his fists in the air and beating his chest really isn't what I would suggest to my players if I was the coach. Having said that, I still believe that the Bulldogs will win by at least 14 and maybe more. Best of luck to both teams and I hope that no player gets hurt and it should be one heck of a game.

#1 TEXAN

12-18-2009, 05:08 PM

How good is the bulldog defense can they stop Mccoy and the steers offense?

Deuce

12-18-2009, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by #1 TEXAN
How good is the bulldog defense can they stop Mccoy and the steers offense?

Heard they were better than all 5a schools.

#1 TEXAN

12-18-2009, 05:15 PM

Good! It will be even that much better when the steers take that title from them.

1st&10

12-18-2009, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by #1 TEXAN
How good is the bulldog defense can they stop Mccoy and the steers offense? Only if they put pressure on the QB. Once he has pressure he tends not to make very good decisions. If you give him time in the pocket or let him roll out he will find someone open.

oldtownag

12-18-2009, 05:18 PM

Wow. I just got back from the Carthage pep ralley and someone from Graham sent a Hearse with Bulldogs painted on the back window to drive around Carthage. That little jesture almost sent the Dawgs over the edge. They are fired up!

P.S. Thanks for spelling lesson RWB40

Inmateboss

12-18-2009, 05:22 PM

"Because it's the big name McCoy versus little Morgan that nobody knows about," said quarterback Anthony Morgan, "I just want to demolish them. I just want to beat them and beat their face in."

The Epitome Of true sportsmanship ????? Sounds more like the start of a nice long Criminal History to me!!
What fine example of Malevolence, Mr Morgan!! I truly feel sorry for you! You are the leader of your Team, and you should lead by example!!! If this is what you call leadership, I hope and pray that you have a Mutiny on your hands, and that your team holds themselves to a higher standard than you!! It is plan for everyone to see, that you Sir are totaly Classless, and should be ashamed of yourself, as should anybody that concures with your thoughts and statements!!!!

SWAS009

12-18-2009, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by oldtownag
Wow. I just got back from the Carthage pep ralley and someone from Graham sent a Hurst with Bulldogs painted on the back window to drive around Carthage. That little jesture almost sent the Dawgs over the edge. They are fired up!

I'm pretty sure that didn't even happen. Why would a STEER send a car with a BULLDOG to the BULLDOGS town. That's not even showing any sense.

RWB40

12-18-2009, 05:39 PM

Do you mean a hearse? Sounds to me like somebody there is Carthage is trying to fire their boys up. From what I have learned about Graham in the last year, they are way too classy to pull something like that.
Maybe they are trying to divert attention from the embarrassing statement made by the leader of their team.

1st&10

12-18-2009, 05:45 PM

One of the great things about high school football is how a town can get behind each other and come together over a game. It is a game but what a game!!! Maybe it is time for all of us to tone down and let the coaches coach and the players play. Most of these kids are 16-18 yrs old and they all have some more lessons to learn in life, as we do no matter our age. Support your team and yell loud....this is the last game of the season. Best of luck again to both the Bulldogs and the Steers. My last post until August since someone took offense of me posting so late in the year!!! j/k I really don't care. Unless, the Steers win then I will come back and give props. Don't think so....have fun and come home and enjoy the holidays!

Z-RO

12-18-2009, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by oldtownag
Wow. I just got back from the Carthage pep ralley and someone from Graham sent a Hearse with Bulldogs painted on the back window to drive around Carthage. That little jesture almost sent the Dawgs over the edge. They are fired up!

P.S. Thanks for spelling lesson RWB40

Did they send it USPS or did they use UPS? http://www.the-mainboard.com/forum/Smileys/default/roll.gif

oldtownag

12-18-2009, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Z-RO
Did they send it USPS or did they use UPS? http://www.the-mainboard.com/forum/Smileys/default/roll.gif

Fed Ex. It must have cost a fortune.

SWAS009

12-18-2009, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by oldtownag
Fed Ex. It must have cost a fortune.

Its a diversion sent by someone from Carthage. They want to get fired up over that? No, they want to make us look no so classy. That would be a waste of time and money. Why would we retaliate to what Carthage has done that is so immature. They send a funeral reef to our locker room. They call us crackers on the radio. Then the quarterback says he's going to beat our face in. Just play the game. Your the defending state champs. Your supposed to represent the state of texas. It'll catch on, and it will all be chaos. Just grow up and play the game!

RWB40

12-18-2009, 05:58 PM

No problem, glad to help. :)

25 hours till kickoff!!! Everyone have a safe trip and bring the noise makers!
GO STEERS!

Inmateboss

12-18-2009, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by RWB40
Do you mean a hearse? Sounds to me like somebody there is Carthage is trying to fire their boys up. From what I have learned about Graham in the last year, they are way too classy to pull something like that.
Maybe they are trying to divert attention from the embarrassing statement made by the leader of their team.

You could fly a Blimp around town and up and down every street, and not divert attention from that embarrassing statement!!!!

You just have to feel bad for the young man!! I'll bet his Parents raised him better than that!!! Sometimes fear makes you do and say stupid things!!!

Deuce

12-18-2009, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Inmateboss
You could fly a Blimp around town and up and down every street, and not divert attention from that embarrassing statement!!!!

You just have to feel bad for the young man!! I'll bet his Parents raised him better than that!!! Sometimes fear makes you do and say stupid things!!!

Fly a blimp around Graham and it might get shot out of the air!! LOL

Inmateboss

12-18-2009, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by RWB40
Do you mean a hearse? Sounds to me like somebody there is Carthage is trying to fire their boys up. From what I have learned about Graham in the last year, they are way too classy to pull something like that.
Maybe they are trying to divert attention from the embarrassing statement made by the leader of their team.

We would rather spend our money on noise makers, tee shirts, and have a little left over for those high priced concession stands at the game!!!:eek: :eek:

Inmateboss

12-18-2009, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Deuce
Fly a blimp around Graham and it might get shot out of the air!! LOL

Depends on what it says on the side!!!!

PS: Your right someone would shoot it anyways, :D :devil: :D

rolldawgs

12-18-2009, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by Inmateboss
"Because it's the big name McCoy versus little Morgan that nobody knows about," said quarterback Anthony Morgan, "I just want to demolish them. I just want to beat them and beat their face in."

The Epitome Of true sportsmanship ????? Sounds more like the start of a nice long Criminal History to me!!
What fine example of Malevolence, Mr Morgan!! I truly feel sorry for you! You are the leader of your Team, and you should lead by example!!! If this is what you call leadership, I hope and pray that you have a Mutiny on your hands, and that your team holds themselves to a higher standard than you!! It is plan for everyone to see, that you Sir are totaly Classless, and should be ashamed of yourself, as should anybody that concures with your thoughts and statements!!!!

If you want to comment that our QB was over the top or said something inappropriate, then by all means make yourself feel better and do it. And I would agree with you, especially if you had simply made your point in a mature manner. But to viciously attack a 17 year old High School kid via an internet forum says exactly what about you? Notice I didn't say Graham; this one is squarely on you.

I don't know what type of moderators are on this site, but if the other threads are also full of adults attacking High School athletes with this type of verbage, then it has no place being on the web, nor do you.

A lot worse will likely be said just before kick-off in both locker rooms; at least it has been that way for decades in the locker rooms I've been in. Is the battle cry "let's give 'em four quarters of he!!" a morally corrupt or criminal statement? What about wnen half of the coaches in the UIL scream "let's play four quarters of smashmouth football!" just before the game? Are you praying for them too? Hope so; prayer is good.
How about "let's step on their throat and never let up" or "let's knock their dobber in the dirt" (old school one).

Anthony's emotions got the best of him at an inappropriate time and place, and he's learned from it. Part of life for a teenager is also seeing good and bad examples in adults, but don't worry, Anthony is surrounded by people that will point out to him what they feel is appropriate or inappropriate without attacking him, so he'll be just fine.

oldtownag

12-18-2009, 06:53 PM

Thank you rolldawgs.

#1 TEXAN

12-18-2009, 06:54 PM

So what's the score gonna be in this one? Steers 28. Dawgs. 21

oldtownag

12-18-2009, 06:55 PM

Dawgs 35 - Steers 21

N4SIR

12-18-2009, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by grahampaw
Just a thought.........we all know that the only ones on here thinking Graham is going to win are homers, myself included.If Pittsburg had went on to win how whould this thread be going.My thinking is that everyone on here whould be thinking it whould be a dogfight and alot more people whould give Pitt a better chance then they are giving Graham.I keep hearing how Graham is going to be surprised and overwhelmed by the Bulldogs but I am not so sure the entire state outside of our district will be shocked at how this turns out the other way.

Graham 27 Cartage 21 Carthage would have crushed Pittsburg just as bad as they are going to crush Graham

Inmateboss

12-18-2009, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by rolldawgs
If you want to comment that our QB was over the top or said something inappropriate, then by all means make yourself feel better and do it. And I would agree with you, especially if you had simply made your point in a mature manner. But to viciously attack a 17 year old High School kid via an internet forum says exactly what about you? Notice I didn't say Graham; this one is squarely on you.

I don't know what type of moderators are on this site, but if the other threads are also full of adults attacking High School athletes with this type of verbage, then it has no place being on the web, nor do you.

A lot worse will likely be said just before kick-off in both locker rooms; at least it has been that way for decades in the locker rooms I've been in. Is the battle cry "let's give 'em four quarters of he!!" a morally corrupt or criminal statement? What about wnen half of the coaches in the UIL scream "let's play four quarters of smashmouth football!" just before the game? Are you praying for them too? Hope so; prayer is good.
How about "let's step on their throat and never let up" or "let's knock their dobber in the dirt" (old school one).

Anthony's emotions got the best of him at an inappropriate time and place, and he's learned from it. Part of life for a teenager is also seeing good and bad examples in adults, but don't worry, Anthony is surrounded by people that will point out to him what they feel is appropriate or inappropriate without attacking him, so he'll be just fine.

If you feel my post is Inappropriate, report it to the moderators. I don't feel my post was a vicious attack on the young man, and yes it could have been worded differently! But I'm glad you responded in the manner you did, Thank you!! Your response was, lets say just a little upset! That was from just one post!!! Try enduring that post for the whole year about our QB, then you will know how I felt when writing mine!!!

wimbo_pro

12-18-2009, 07:33 PM

steerz2010

12-18-2009, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by rolldawgs
If you want to comment that our QB was over the top or said something inappropriate, then by all means make yourself feel better and do it. And I would agree with you, especially if you had simply made your point in a mature manner. But to viciously attack a 17 year old High School kid via an internet forum says exactly what about you? Notice I didn't say Graham; this one is squarely on you.

I don't know what type of moderators are on this site, but if the other threads are also full of adults attacking High School athletes with this type of verbage, then it has no place being on the web, nor do you.

A lot worse will likely be said just before kick-off in both locker rooms; at least it has been that way for decades in the locker rooms I've been in. Is the battle cry "let's give 'em four quarters of he!!" a morally corrupt or criminal statement? What about wnen half of the coaches in the UIL scream "let's play four quarters of smashmouth football!" just before the game? Are you praying for them too? Hope so; prayer is good.
How about "let's step on their throat and never let up" or "let's knock their dobber in the dirt" (old school one).

Anthony's emotions got the best of him at an inappropriate time and place, and he's learned from it. Part of life for a teenager is also seeing good and bad examples in adults, but don't worry, Anthony is surrounded by people that will point out to him what they feel is appropriate or inappropriate without attacking him, so he'll be just fine.

I hope he doesn't get too emotional tomorrow night and throw a pick or too... NOT!!!

LE Dad

12-18-2009, 07:47 PM

Carthage wins. Only question is how close Graham can make it:confused: :confused:

Nice to see a Pitt poster :thumbsup: Shame Manley and Burns were not 100%.:dispntd: Stick around, need more 16 3A folks:D

Inmateboss

12-18-2009, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
InMateBoss...my friend...pump the brakes. I know you are fired up to the max, but as someone sitting on the sidelines as I am, I can see it possibly a little clearer than you. So please allow me to say this....

He's a kid. He's fired up beyond belief. Who knows...he might of said it with a chuckle in his voice or with his teeth clenched, kind of like Dick Butkus or John Madden did many times. Don't take it too personal...I am sure he read it and probably didnt mean it the way it came out in print.

I understand where your coming from, and yes I probably should have just let it go. But I, we, Graham, have listened to all this McCoy this and McCoy that bad mouthing all year! I have said it before and I'll say it again, Pump your team up, be loud be proud!!! There is not a bigger Drum beater in the bunch, But don't make it personal!!! Their QB could have said anything about Graham, the Steers, the fans...etc. No problem!! I'm sorry if I offended anyone, by taking up for our QB, but dang it, somebody needed to! We have endured lot's of trash talking about Graham all year, we can't this and that, I don't care about all that. The Steers put the trash in the can, and W's in the books!! But it just gets old hearing people drag our QB and his dad through the mud because of what???? Something his son and brother did or didn't do?? That has nothing to do with this game or them. They just make for a nice whipping post!! How many posters feel our Qb was out of line for running down the field holding up his hand with the were #1. It was several I know that for a fact, they posted it all over this forum!!! Did the fact that he is also a high school student, keep any of them from posting how "classless our QB is", no it didn't!! And I feel bad now because I have lowered myself to their standards.

TXFTBALLFNATIC

12-18-2009, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by LE Dad
Carthage wins. Only question is how close Graham can make it:confused: :confused:

Nice to see a Pitt poster :thumbsup: Shame Manley and Burns were not 100%.:dispntd: Stick around, need more 16 3A folks:D

Keep picking against us! your 0-1 so far.

LH Panther Mom

12-18-2009, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by Inmateboss
Try enduring that post for the whole year about our QB, then you will know how I felt when writing mine!!!
It doesn't make it right in either case and certainly after "enduring" you should know how it feels BEFORE you typed it...and refrain. :)

Inmateboss

12-18-2009, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
It doesn't make it right in either case and certainly after "enduring" you should know how it feels BEFORE you typed it...and refrain. :)

Yes ma'am, your right!!

rolldawgs

12-18-2009, 09:52 PM

Thanks for your reply I-boss. Perhaps it just hits a little too close to home for both of us; certainly does for me.

I'm more than happy to MOVE ON and talk about some football!
Except there isn't much more I can think of...
:thinking:

rolldawgs

12-18-2009, 09:56 PM

OK, this is really reaching for a topic, but does anyone from Graham think that Mack Brown might attend the game?

Would make sense that he would show support if he can break away from watching Bama film.

Inmateboss

12-18-2009, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by rolldawgs
Thanks for your reply I-boss. Perhaps it just hits a little too close to home for both of us; certainly does for me.

I'm more than happy to MOVE ON and talk about some football!
Except there isn't much more I can think of...
:thinking:

It does, and I do feel bad about it! I don't know the young man, and for all I know he could have been miss quoted!! I know that our QB and his dads name seem to be popular right now, and that too can add to the hype!! Again, I do apologize, and wish nothing more than a Down to the wire, no injury game!! Good luck to both Teams!!

wimbo_pro

12-18-2009, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by Inmateboss
It does, and I do feel bad about it! I don't know the young man, and for all I know he could have been miss quoted!! I know that our QB and his dads name seem to be popular right now, and that too can add to the hype!! Again, I do apologize, and wish nothing more than a Down to the wire, no injury game!! Good luck to both Teams!!

Apology more than accepted...we all go a bit overboard on here once in a while. I know I have!

The real bad news for me is that I wont be able to listen to the game tomorrow...previous commitment. however, I will get home around 2am and will check the Downlow for the score!

Deuce

12-18-2009, 10:29 PM

Going to go ahead and give my final thoughts because I will probably be to wired in the morning. Carthage is the defending state champions as we are all aware of. Only 1 team can take that away from them at this point, and thats Graham. As I have stated the last 2 weeks DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS. Graham has went out and proved the last 2 weeks that their D can flat out shut u down. And I truly believe that will happen tomorrow night. There is hardly anyone in the state of TX that believes that Graham can win this game but the Graham team and its fans. If we can play the type of ball tomorrow night that we are capable of, Graham will be the new STATE CHAMPIONS! We will have to score early and let the defense set the toan early by laying the wood! With that said, safe travels to all and lets see one tomorrow that people will talk about for years to come!!

steerz2010

12-18-2009, 11:06 PM

I wonder if foxsports Southwest will webcast the game like the AW / Gilmer game? Anyone heard anything?

lulu

12-18-2009, 11:08 PM

My thoughts...."Can you hear them growling?"

Carthage wins and East Texas Rules:D

rolldawgs

12-18-2009, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by steerz2010
I wonder if foxsports Southwest will webcast the game like the AW / Gilmer game? Anyone heard anything?

Their web site only lists webcasts for the 4A Div I and II games.
Both 5A games and the 4A Div II game are televised.

Strangely, that means the 4A Div II game is on TV and is being webcast at the same time, but no love at all for 3A Div II.

3A Div I game didn't have to compete with other championship games going on that evening.

Deuce

12-18-2009, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by lulu
My thoughts...."Can you hear them growling?"

Carthage wins and East Texas Rules:D

I hear a few puppies crying in my back yard.

steerz2010

12-18-2009, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by rolldawgs
Their web site only lists webcasts for the 4A Div I and II games.
Both 5A games and the 4A Div II game are televised.

Strangely, that means the 4A Div II game is on TV and is being webcast at the same time, but no love at all for 3A Div II.

3A Div I game didn't have to compete with other championship games going on that evening.

Thanks for the info...

lulu

12-18-2009, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by Deuce
I hear a few puppies crying in my back yard.

Well watch out..cause they're will be all grown up by this time tomorrow. They will take steer down by the hind legs.

Deuce

12-18-2009, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by lulu
Well watch out..cause they're will be all grown up by this time tomorrow. They will take steer down by the hind legs.

Darn, I might not be able to sleep tonight thinking about that!

lulu

12-18-2009, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by Deuce
Darn, I might not be able to sleep tonight thinking about that! Thats what I'm talking about.

I really do back the Dawgs but good luck to your team and travel safe.

Deuce

12-18-2009, 11:35 PM

Thanks and best of luck 2 both!

76IHSMustang

12-19-2009, 12:22 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Inmateboss
[B]"Because it's the big name McCoy versus little Morgan that nobody knows about," said quarterback Anthony Morgan, "I just want to demolish them. I just want to beat them and beat their face in."

I would put a headhunter on this Morgan kid. Let him know what its like to have your face beat in. Thats a pretty arrogent statement, even from a seventeen year old.

rolldawgs

12-19-2009, 12:45 AM

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs6/i/2005/064/c/0/Beating_A_Dead_Horse_by_livius.gif

...sigh

You are a little late to the party on that one Mustang.

I'll feed you though - with a direct quote from Anthony today.
"I always have a target on my back, this game's no different".

Then I asked him what time the bus left tomorrow, and he punched me in the face.

N4SIR

12-19-2009, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by Deuce
Going to go ahead and give my final thoughts because I will probably be to wired in the morning. Carthage is the defending state champions as we are all aware of. Only 1 team can take that away from them at this point, and thats Graham. As I have stated the last 2 weeks DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS. Graham has went out and proved the last 2 weeks that their D can flat out shut u down. And I truly believe that will happen tomorrow night. There is hardly anyone in the state of TX that believes that Graham can win this game but the Graham team and its fans. If we can play the type of ball tomorrow night that we are capable of, Graham will be the new STATE CHAMPIONS! We will have to score early and let the defense set the toan early by laying the wood! With that said, safe travels to all and lets see one tomorrow that people will talk about for years to come!! That's what they say -- DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS -- and thats what a lot to the Wylie and Graham homers kept telling us Buckeye posters too. But we all know what happened in that game --- and I predict the same outcome for your game today. I will be there to witness it first hand. Carthage rolls and brings another State Championship back to East Texas.

N4SIR

12-19-2009, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by steerz2010
I wonder if foxsports Southwest will webcast the game like the AW / Gilmer game? Anyone heard anything? Only the elite teams have the privilege of being televised

oldtownag

12-19-2009, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by N4SIR
Only the elite teams have the privilege of being televised

I just watched the Dawgs 2008 championship game again on my DVR.

N4SIR

12-19-2009, 08:50 AM

I was at that game and a hell of a game it was. I have a customer who's kids go to Celina and I was telling him all week about Dwight Smith and what an awesome running back he was and the Carhtage team as a whole. During the game I sat on the Carthage side and he sat on the Celina side. We text back and forth during the game. I laughed my butt off at some of the text he was sending me. He was stunned by Smith and the show he put on. I tried to tell him --- just like you and I have tried to tell the Graham posters --- but he like they, just didn't listen. Graham is in for a show tonight.

txsfootball4lif

12-19-2009, 08:59 AM

Game day...leaving Snyder now.

jbone68

12-19-2009, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by rolldawgs
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs6/i/2005/064/c/0/Beating_A_Dead_Horse_by_livius.gif

...sigh

You are a little late to the party on that one Mustang.

I'll feed you though - with a direct quote from Anthony today.
"I always have a target on my back, this game's no different".

Then I asked him what time the bus left tomorrow, and he punched me in the face.

Thats the funniest post on the whole thread!!!:clap: :clap:

ctown82

12-19-2009, 09:53 AM

Well this is it. I wish everyone safe travel. I've been following this thread all week and I really don't think you Graham posters know what you're getting yourselves into. i will eat my crow Sunday morning for breakfest right before church but I predict the Dawgs by 3 tds.

Or....if you see me after the game I'll eat my crow in person. I'll be the guy wearing the "Anthony Morgan just punched my face in" t shirt.

I don't care who you are. THat's funny right there.

Deuce

12-19-2009, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by N4SIR
Only the elite teams have the privilege of being televised

Yeah, thats why ya'll were not on tv last week either!

N4SIR

12-19-2009, 10:07 AM

Maybe not in your next of the woods but we sure were in the Gilmer and Abilene areas.

TXFTBALLFNATIC

12-19-2009, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by 76IHSMustang
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Inmateboss
[B]"Because it's the big name McCoy versus little Morgan that nobody knows about," said quarterback Anthony Morgan, "I just want to demolish them. I just want to beat them and beat their face in."

I would put a headhunter on this Morgan kid. Let him know what its like to have your face beat in. Thats a pretty arrogent statement, even from a seventeen year old.

This kind of stuff is classless and you would never see this from a young man in Graham...the coaches would see to that. Also, rumored in hooterville is that someone from Carthage sent the Graham ISD a wreath that said RIP saw em off. In addition it does not take much research to find posters on certain east texas websites that state they want to get McCoy hurt.:confused: :confused: This may not be the consensus of the whole town but things have started to add up so I believe and predict a whole lot of personal fouls from the Red dogs tonight. Whether they are called or not will be seen.

My wish for every game I see is for both teams to play with no turnovers, no injuries, and no dirty plays so when the dust settles you know who stepped up and played with their heart and soul and left it all on the field and can be crowned State Champion.

You will never see nothing but class and respect from the Graham Steers and even though some may misinterpret or think it is cheesy at the end of the day that is really what sports and sportsmanship are all about. This kind of attitude makes great young men that can step to the next level and not make troubles for their college coaches or team mates.

oldtownag

12-19-2009, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by TXFTBALLFNATIC
You will never see nothing but class and respect from the Graham Steers

Did you graduate from Graham?

ccmom

12-19-2009, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by oldtownag
Did you graduate from Graham? Forgive me Steers, but that was funny!! LOL. Go Steers!

PanhandleGal96

12-19-2009, 11:17 AM

Hey guys at least give him credit--he did not go for the triple negative-"we don't have no more of those no more" which is what I heard when I asked for an item at the store the other day-
or title his paper "SA" when I told the students to write an "essay"

and Go Bulldogs --Love that Offensive Line!

MamaBull

12-19-2009, 11:19 AM

[i]And I feel bad now because I have lowered myself to their standards. [/B]
do you want us to feel bad for you?:(
im sorry your feelings were hurt.

MamaBull

12-19-2009, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by TXFTBALLFNATIC
This kind of stuff is classless and you would never see this from a young man in Graham...the coaches would see to that. Also, rumored in hooterville is that someone from Carthage sent the Graham ISD a wreath that said RIP saw em off. In addition it does not take much research to find posters on certain east texas websites that state they want to get McCoy hurt.:confused: :confused: This may not be the consensus of the whole town but things have started to add up so I believe and predict a whole lot of personal fouls from the Red dogs tonight. Whether they are called or not will be seen.

My wish for every game I see is for both teams to play with no turnovers, no injuries, and no dirty plays so when the dust settles you know who stepped up and played with their heart and soul and left it all on the field and can be crowned State Champion.

You will never see nothing but class and respect from the Graham Steers and even though some may misinterpret or think it is cheesy at the end of the day that is really what sports and sportsmanship are all about. This kind of attitude makes great young men that can step to the next level and not make troubles for their college coaches or team mates.
Geez, cry about it. :weeping: :bigcry:

BwdLion73

12-19-2009, 11:29 AM

Good Luck Graham, bring home that (co) State title!

:clap: :D :D :clap:

1st&10

12-19-2009, 11:33 AM

SWAS009

12-19-2009, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by BwdLion73
Good Luck Graham, bring home that (co) State title!

:clap: :D :D :clap:

(co)?

RedraideR11

12-19-2009, 11:36 AM

Graham plays dirty

BwdLion73

12-19-2009, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by RedraideR11
Graham plays dirty

:devil: ;)

BwdLion73

12-19-2009, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by SWAS009
(co)?

:devil: ;)

SWAS009

12-19-2009, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by RedraideR11
Graham plays dirty

Graham plays classy. Glen Rose, they're the dirtiest team in the state.

MamaBull

12-19-2009, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by SWAS009
Graham plays classy. Glen Rose, they're the dirtiest team in the state.
i think its graham.

TXFTBALLFNATIC

12-19-2009, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by oldtownag
Did you graduate from Graham?

No i did not graduate from Graham nor did I go to school there. I can only speak for what I have seen these past few years.

MamaBull

12-19-2009, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by TXFTBALLFNATIC
No i did not graduate from Graham nor did I go to school there. I can only speak for what I have seen these past few years.
do you have a child that attends graham?

oldtownag

12-19-2009, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by TXFTBALLFNATIC
No i did not graduate from Graham nor did I go to school there. I can only speak for what I have seen these past few years.

Oh, ok

TXFTBALLFNATIC

12-19-2009, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by MamaBull
i think its graham.

If memory serves me correct I think everytime Graham players layed the wood to Bport they would help them up and still be good sports before and after the game.

Quit crying cause your watching bball and your Christmas wishes did not come true.

TXFTBALLFNATIC

12-19-2009, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by MamaBull
do you have a child that attends graham?

no I just love HS football and have followed it religiously for years. I just state my opinion like everyone else. Graham is by far not my favorite HS.

MamaBull

12-19-2009, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by TXFTBALLFNATIC
If memory serves me correct I think everytime Graham players layed the wood to Bport they would help them up and still be good sports before and after the game.

Quit crying cause your watching bball and your Christmas wishes did not come true.

ACTUALLY i dont watch basketball. not my thing.
as for laying wood, graham couldnt. ethan hiser can.
but graham cant.

helping us up? i wouldnt know because we never got hit that hard when we played you.

goodluck tonight.

TXFTBALLFNATIC

12-19-2009, 12:08 PM

So I will not get anymore posts...Good luck to both teams and safe travel for all you supporters and haters. Got to get ready for the game and head that way. Been fun this year but win or lose TXFTBALLFNATIC is out, no more fun trash to talk cause all speculation is over tonight. To be continued......next year.

Happy Holidays!!!!!!!

MamaBull

12-19-2009, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by TXFTBALLFNATIC
no I just love HS football and have followed it religiously for years. I just state my opinion like everyone else. Graham is by far not my favorite HS.
so bridgeport is. GOOD.

MamaBull

12-19-2009, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by TXFTBALLFNATIC
So I will not get anymore posts...Good luck to both teams and safe travel for all you supporters and haters. Got to get ready for the game and head that way. Been fun this year but win or lose TXFTBALLFNATIC is out, no more fun trash to talk cause all speculation is over tonight. To be continued......next year.

Happy Holidays!!!!!!!

CCCCOOOOOOMMMMMEEEEE BBBBBAAAACCCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!!

LE Dad

12-19-2009, 12:13 PM

Lot of trivial BS "he said this, he did that" . It will all be over shortly.

GO DAWGS!! :clap: :clap:

DaHop72

12-19-2009, 12:17 PM

GO GRAHAM STEEERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wtfootball

12-19-2009, 01:31 PM

ballfanatic, don't let bull fans run you off like theydid me, they actually believe that junk about being the best sports, they were the dirtiest team our boys played last year and had to get some good ole boy help from the ref's to pull out the win, before being embarassed the following week. Good news is they sit at the house and watch Graham in the big game.
Go Graham!

Bullaholic

12-19-2009, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by wtfootball
ballfanatic, don't let bull fans run you off like theydid me, they actually believe that junk about being the best sports, they were the dirtiest team our boys played last year and had to get some good ole boy help from the ref's to pull out the win, before being embarassed the following week. Good news is they sit at the house and watch Graham in the big game.
Go Graham!

The funny part is, the Monahans fans would probably help us run you off again, wtfootball. Why don't you give the Steers, or any state finalist for that matter, the respect they deserve by talking about them on their state game thread?

thelegend02

12-19-2009, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by wtfootball
ballfanatic, don't let bull fans run you off like theydid me, they actually believe that junk about being the best sports, they were the dirtiest team our boys played last year and had to get some good ole boy help from the ref's to pull out the win, before being embarassed the following week. Good news is they sit at the house and watch Graham in the big game.
Go Graham!

Isn't Monahans sitting at home??? Talk about something relative to this year. Nobody cares that you think Monahans didn't get a few calls. It was a year ago. GET OVER IT!!!!

SWAS009

12-19-2009, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by thelegend02
Isn't Monahans sitting at home??? Talk about something relative to this year. Nobody cares that you think Monahans didn't get a few calls. It was a year ago. GET OVER IT!!!!

Most of this is totally irrelevant to ht game that's goin down in 3 hours.

DaHop72

12-19-2009, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by wtfootball
ballfanatic, don't let bull fans run you off like theydid me, they actually believe that junk about being the best sports, they were the dirtiest team our boys played last year and had to get some good ole boy help from the ref's to pull out the win, before being embarassed the following week. Good news is they sit at the house and watch Graham in the big game.
Go Graham! Ahh, look who comes out of the wood work again. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

wimbo_pro

12-19-2009, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by DaHop72
Ahh, look who comes out of the wood work again. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Who are these guys?

wtfootball

12-19-2009, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by Bullaholic
The funny part is, the Monahans fans would probably help us run you off again, wtfootball. Why don't you give the Steers, or any state finalist for that matter, the respect they deserve by talking about them on their state game thread?

Let's see, I will try to spell it like you guys do. I know you ain't into "areadin" and "awritin" but if you read my post, it said nothing about M, they are old news and I for one could care less. If you could read more and type less, you would see that the Graham Steers were mentioned at least twice during that post. I was pulling for Graham the night they blew out M and even more so the night they put B out by 4 points. You see you guys, lableled me as a fan of a certain team but as my name implies I am a fan of the West Texas teams. I know kids playing for Monahans, Wylie, Sweetwater, Snyder and Andrews to name a few. It hurt to watch Wylie lose and will hurt if Graham loses. But watching ole Bridgeport lose, now that my friends always goes down smoooooooooootthh. Since the almighty alperfect Bull fans own this board, I will float off into silence again. Enjoy bashing everyone you guys don't agree with, you do it so well....wtfootball out.

GO GRAHAM STEERS!

SteerS_2012

12-19-2009, 06:06 PM

Here at the stadium. Graham seems to have an edge on fans. LETS GO STEERS!!!

LE Dad

12-19-2009, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by SteerS_2012
Here at the stadium. Graham seems to have an edge on fans. LETS GO STEERS!!! Should be a big crowd coming from Carthage and all of East Texas U of Ark QB Ryan Mallett will be there along with a host of Texarkana folks.:D

lulu

12-19-2009, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by MamaBull
Geez, cry about it. :weeping: :bigcry: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

LE Dad

12-19-2009, 06:53 PM

You want to talk about motivation:thinking:

Just talked to Scott Surratts sister in law and according to her Carthage will match or exceed any offer made to him at the HS level if he wins this game.:clap: :clap:

CHA....CHING$$:D

1st&10

12-19-2009, 08:06 PM

Wow....East Texas Football.....Nuff said!!!!

gameface

12-19-2009, 08:56 PM

Score update?

lulu

12-19-2009, 09:08 PM

13-0 Carthage Steers driving

gameface

12-19-2009, 09:29 PM

Bring on the 3a final updates!!!!!!

lulu

12-19-2009, 09:31 PM

13-6 carthage
Steers have a 1st at the goal line 1 min and afew sec to go

lulu

12-19-2009, 09:33 PM

touchdown steers 13-12 carthage. Kick is faked....no good

CLRSteer

12-19-2009, 09:59 PM

I would just like to say that NOBODY from District 2 would have EVER kneeled the ball for the last minute in a game like that!!!!!!!
Just sayin......

LH Panther Mom

12-19-2009, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by gameface
Bring on the 3a final updates!!!!!!
:doh: There was an entire thread with them. ;)

gameface

12-19-2009, 10:02 PM

Congrat's c-town! Graham-impressive fight against the dawgs! Both teams should be proud & thankful for such an awesome opportunity to compete @ state 3a final! Safe travel & merry Christmas to all 3a fans! God bless you all, gameface.

Txbroadcaster

12-19-2009, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by CLRSteer
I would just like to say that NOBODY from District 2 would have EVER kneeled the ball for the last minute in a game like that!!!!!!!
Just sayin......

huh?

statewide

12-19-2009, 10:05 PM

Sounds like a great game. Congratulations Carthage, State Champions. Graham, I doubted you could hang with them. Your effort proved that you could play with anyone in the State, contgrats on a great season.

lulu

12-19-2009, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by CLRSteer
I would just like to say that NOBODY from District 2 would have EVER kneeled the ball for the last minute in a game like that!!!!!!!
Just sayin...... Whiner

lulu

12-19-2009, 10:09 PM

They did not kneel that I heard. The broadcaster sais they ran around until time was out.

lulu

12-19-2009, 10:11 PM

Graham played a great game.....take it with diginity and be proud of your team.

Pawdaddy

12-19-2009, 10:19 PM

Wow! Sounded like the game of the playoffs. Will not second guess any calls, plays or efforts. Two great teams played and only 1 point seperated them. Congratulations Carthage on BACK to BACK Championships! Pretty short list of teams in that group.

Congratulations Gilmer Buckeyes! 2009 D-1 Champions!

Congratulations to Graham and Abilene Wylie! Another pretty short list of districts that have had TWO teams play for a state championship in the same sport in the same year. I need to include the other teams in your district, you guys play with the big dogs in that district. Great year of Texas High School Football. I will crow about East Texas in another thread. :D

Dominicfrank

12-20-2009, 01:19 AM

I went to the game and here are a few observations:

1. Carthage impressed the heck out of me with the way they played tight and clean. Well coached.

2. Graham had 4 possesitions where they left points on the board. 2 4th downs not covereted in the red zone,a missed extra point, and the terrible call to fake the EP at the end.

3. Something happened to the Graham passing attack. It wasnt there. Did I miss something? Are they really a running team? It looked like the Carthage defense pressured McCoy but they really abandoned the pass tonight.

4. Carthage fans are classy as heck. The several I talked to said they have never been bullied like that in a game and they all felt lucky to win given Grahams failure to score max points on those 4 earlier talked about possessions. Proud of the defense that caused those 4 but lucky given the win by only one point.

5. Refs cant help but make TERRIBLE calls. The pass interference call against Graham in the endzone was the worst call I have seen in person in any high school game I have ever gone to. Props to Graham for not letting Carthage in after that free 1st down inside the 5.

6. Coach McCoy decides to leave Case on the sideline on the play that decides if you win the State Championship. One of the biggest coaching blunders I have ever witnessed.

7. Didnt feel like a State Championship game. Maybe it is the Division I or II thing but this didn't seem like the Vernon SLC games that I remember going to as a student.

8. Seems that HS football is a lot less about having one star player and much more about having seniors and good players at most every position. I think that is why the Vernon's of the world probably wont win too many more titles against growing cities who have constantly changing talent pools.

grahampaw

12-20-2009, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by Dominicfrank
I went to the game and here are a few observations:

1. Carthage impressed the heck out of me with the way they played tight and clean. Well coached.

2. Graham had 4 possesitions where they left points on the board. 2 4th downs not covereted in the red zone,a missed extra point, and the terrible call to fake the EP at the end.

3. Something happened to the Graham passing attack. It wasnt there. Did I miss something? Are they really a running team? It looked like the Carthage defense pressured McCoy but they really abandoned the pass tonight.

4. Carthage fans are classy as heck. The several I talked to said they have never been bullied like that in a game and they all felt lucky to win given Grahams failure to score max points on those 4 earlier talked about possessions. Proud of the defense that caused those 4 but lucky given the win by only one point.

5. Refs cant help but make TERRIBLE calls. The pass interference call against Graham in the endzone was the worst call I have seen in person in any high school game I have ever gone to. Props to Graham for not letting Carthage in after that free 1st down inside the 5.

6. Coach McCoy decides to leave Case on the sideline on the play that decides if you win the State Championship. One of the biggest coaching blunders I have ever witnessed.

7. Didnt feel like a State Championship game. Maybe it is the Division I or II thing but this didn't seem like the Vernon SLC games that I remember going to as a student.

8. Seems that HS football is a lot less about having one star player and much more about having seniors and good players at most every position. I think that is why the Vernon's of the world probably wont win too many more titles against growing cities who have constantly changing talent pools. Well said.

grahampaw

12-20-2009, 02:18 AM

My hats off to Carthage Bulldogs on another State Championship.and to the players and coaches and fans that came over with the encouraging words to our boys,we thank you and whould like to say yall are a classy bunch. God Bless highschool football.

Maroon87

12-20-2009, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by Dominicfrank
Refs cant help but make TERRIBLE calls.

Uh oh...TexMike is gonna have a word with you about that...:1popcorn:

Deuce

12-20-2009, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by MamaBull
so bridgeport is. GOOD.

Not Really!

Deuce

12-20-2009, 04:52 AM

oldtownag

12-20-2009, 06:31 AM

go blue 64

12-20-2009, 07:57 AM

Thanks Steers for a great season (best in school history). You had a great run it did not end as good as was hoped, but do not let that ruin what was a great ride for everyone!!!!:) :) :) :)

statewide

12-20-2009, 08:44 AM

If the coach had went for the tie, and lost in OT, he would be questioned. He was in a tough position and I"m sure made the call that he thought gave his team the best chance to suprise Carthage and bring home the State Championship. Although low scoring sounds like it would have been a great game to watch. Congratulations to Graham on a great season and to Carthage for another State Title. An awesome acomplishment.

wimbo_pro

12-20-2009, 10:33 AM

Yeah...hero or scapegoat...I can see the reason to call such a play, but the percentages are very low for it...risky is not even the word for it.

But if they would have scored, we would be saying how incredibly smart Coach McCoy is. So....

Of course, Graham should not have even been in such a position...at least thats my take from reading up on the game.

VWG

12-20-2009, 10:57 AM

http://www.news-journal.com/prep/content/sports/stories/2009/12/20/12202009_carthagefootball.html

Game story

oldtownag

12-20-2009, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Of course, Graham should not have even been in such a position...at least thats my take from reading up on the game.

The Carthage offense had their way with the Graham defense except in the red zone. Give them credit they had 2 interceptions and 2 4th down stops in the red zone.

Bullaholic

12-20-2009, 11:26 AM

Congrats to the Crthage Bulldogs for the win and the DII State Ttile. Congrats to our neighbors the Graham Steers for their best season ever.

theoldoaktree

12-20-2009, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by oldtownag
The Carthage offense had their way with the Graham defense except in the red zone. Give them credit they had 2 interceptions and 2 4th down stops in the red zone. wow, are you serious? this is the biggest bull crap post o have ever seen, you need to take in perspective that yall did throw the interceptions but our defence picked them off. yall beat us by one point and yall had yalls way with our defence, hmm not scoring in the second half makes me think they had their way with you. this was a classless post on your part. and guess what, our offence had a tough time in the first half but they came back and worked their butts off to just hardly lose, this is the best group the steers have ever had and i love each and every one of them.

theoldoaktree

12-20-2009, 11:45 AM

1st&10

12-20-2009, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by theoldoaktree
wow, are you serious? this is the biggest bull crap post o have ever seen, you need to take in perspective that yall did throw the interceptions but our defence picked them off. yall beat us by one point Bottom line is that the Bulldogs still won. Yes, the Dawgs had a lot more yards that the Steers but the Steers did make the stops when they had to.....So did the Dawgs. The only real questions of the game is why the Steers didn't try to pass more and why try to fake the pat at the end of the game? It just would have made more sense to line up and just run your best play to try to win the game.

oldtownag

12-20-2009, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by theoldoaktree
wow, are you serious? this is the biggest bull crap post o have ever seen, you need to take in perspective that yall did throw the interceptions but our defence picked them off. yall beat us by one point and yall had yalls way with our defence, hmm not scoring in the second half makes me think they had their way with you. this was a classless post on your part. and guess what, our offence had a tough time in the first half but they came back and worked their butts off to just hardly lose, this is the best group the steers have ever had and i love each and every one of them.

Wow, we are a little sensitive huh. What part of "Give them credit" do you see as classless? If you read the post I was responding to Wimbro pros comment. If you think yourself "classy" then I want no part of it.

1st&10

12-20-2009, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by oldtownag
Wow, we are a little sensitive huh. What part of "Give them credit" do you see as classless? If you read the post I was responding to Wimbro pros comment. If you think yourself "classy" then I want no part of it. You did give them credit....but some feelings are still hurt. I understand...too well

oldtownag

12-20-2009, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by 1st&10
You did give them credit....but some feelings are still hurt. I understand...too well

Yea, I thought I was complimenting their defense for playing hard when it mattered most.

Dominicfrank

12-20-2009, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by oldtownag
1. Equally impressed with Graham kids they fought to the bitter end.

2. Graham stopped Carthage in the Red zone 3 or 4 times with no points. Carthage has a strong kicker and I thought they should have kicked the field goal to go up 16 - 0 in the 4th qtr.

3. I think that McCoy thought he needed to keep the Carthage offense off the field and control the clock. It almost worked.

4. Carthage was lucky on D and unlucky on O. So was Graham.

5. Wow. You really must have had the homer blinders on.

6. I thought the decision to go for 2 was good but the play call was not.

7. Huh

8. Having a good coach, football program, and tradition are all important. That is why the same teams show up in the Championship game so often.

No homer here, I am not from GRaham and yes Carthage was stopped as well a few times but twice from INT's and coming straight from SEVERAL families from CArthage they thought they were very fortunate to get away with a W.

I wouldhave gone for 2 as well but NEVER a fake XP.

I agree with the thinking McCoy thought keeping the ball on the ground would help witht he clock.

This was a tight game where I think they as equal as equal gets.

Z-RO

12-20-2009, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by Dominicfrank
I went to the game and here are a few observations:

2. Graham had 4 possesitions where they left points on the board. 2 4th downs not covereted in the red zone,a missed extra point, and the terrible call to fake the EP at the end.

6. Coach McCoy decides to leave Case on the sideline on the play that decides if you win the State Championship. One of the biggest coaching blunders I have ever witnessed.

THIS! Nobody in the stadium thought they were actully going to kick the ball. If you are going to go for 2 then put your offense on the field.

Not trying to bash any kids, but you would figure that Graham could have found SOMEBODY throughout the course of the year that can kick a extra point on a consistant basis. I have said all year long that it was going to end up costing them a game and it did in the most crucial time possible.

N4SIR

12-20-2009, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by theoldoaktree
wow, are you serious? this is the biggest bull crap post o have ever seen, you need to take in perspective that yall did throw the interceptions but our defence picked them off. yall beat us by one point and yall had yalls way with our defence, hmm not scoring in the second half makes me think they had their way with you. this was a classless post on your part. and guess what, our offence had a tough time in the first half but they came back and worked their butts off to just hardly lose, this is the best group the steers have ever had and i love each and every one of them. Amen brother! And don't forget the 99 yard TD drive too!

Rocket Dad

12-20-2009, 01:35 PM

Going for two and the win in that situation was not a good decision at all. Graham scored last ( momentum ) Graham had been solid in red zone defense ( OT's are basically red zone possessions ) that decision put the entire season outcome on one play. I have seen other decisions similiar to this, and it mostly comes from an offensive minded head coach. Go for two if you want to - by running your best play with your most talented player touching the ball, not a shift from an XP attempt. As time goes by it will be more evident that the call was not by the book and not with the percentages.

oldtownag

12-20-2009, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Dominicfrank
No homer here, I am not from GRaham and yes Carthage was stopped as well a few times but twice from INT's and coming straight from SEVERAL families from CArthage they thought they were very fortunate to get away with a W.

I wouldhave gone for 2 as well but NEVER a fake XP.

I agree with the thinking McCoy thought keeping the ball on the ground would help witht he clock.

This was a tight game where I think they as equal as equal gets.

I guess one of us had a very different view of the pass interferance call. It looked like the defender pushed the WR before the pass got there. It was a good play because the reciever had position and was going to catch the pass. It ended up keeping Carthage out of the end zone.

I still can't believe they didn't get the ball in with 1st and goal from the 5. The Graham defense was scrappy and they gave the much larger offensive lineman from Carthage all they could handle.

wimbo_pro

12-20-2009, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by theoldoaktree
wow, are you serious? this is the biggest bull crap post o have ever seen, you need to take in perspective that yall did throw the interceptions but our defence picked them off. yall beat us by one point and yall had yalls way with our defence, hmm not scoring in the second half makes me think they had their way with you. this was a classless post on your part. and guess what, our offence had a tough time in the first half but they came back and worked their butts off to just hardly lose, this is the best group the steers have ever had and i love each and every one of them.

I think you over reacting a bit.

Deuce

12-20-2009, 02:31 PM

Congrats to our boys from Graham on a heck of a season! They played their hearts out last night and proved that they were very deserving to be in the state title game. The game was a great defensive battle. Alot of fingers pointed here and there as to what we could have and should have done, but in the end Carthage wins and they deserve the credit. I personally feel that going for 2 at the end was the only thing to do, but I would have had Case in the game and let him try and make a play. There again though if we would have scored the other 3 times we were in the red zone none of this would matter. Once again I give credit to Carthage because they were as good as advertised.

Z-RO

12-20-2009, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Rocket Dad
Going for two and the win in that situation was not a good decision at all. Graham scored last ( momentum ) Graham had been solid in red zone defense ( OT's are basically red zone possessions ) that decision put the entire season outcome on one play. I have seen other decisions similiar to this, and it mostly comes from an offensive minded head coach. Go for two if you want to - by running your best play with your most talented player touching the ball, not a shift from an XP attempt. As time goes by it will be more evident that the call was not by the book and not with the percentages.

Grahams kicker had missed his last 4 kicks, going for 2 was the right decision. The call following it was not the right decision

Inmateboss

12-20-2009, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Deuce
Congrats to our boys from Graham on a heck of a season! They played their hearts out last night and proved that they were very deserving to be in the state title game. The game was a great defensive battle. Alot of fingers pointed here and there as to what we could have and should have done, but in the end Carthage wins and they deserve the credit. I personally feel that going for 2 at the end was the only thing to do, but I would have had Case in the game and let him try and make a play. There again though if we would have scored the other 3 times we were in the red zone none of this would matter. Once again I give credit to Carthage because they were as good as advertised.

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

Z-RO

12-20-2009, 03:02 PM

After thinking about it some more I still dont see how they thought they were going to suprise anybody with the fake attempt. First off the "kicker" who lined up to kick the ball had not kicked a extra point or FG all season long. Second the holder wasnt even the regular holder but yet your LB who you end up putting into motion.

I know this is some what off topic, but the way Graham lines up for their extra point attempts is the same way a lot of teams who run the spread do. They bring everybody to one side like they are going to run the swinging gate and then go line it up and kick the ball. In all of the Graham games I have seen in the McCoy era I had never seen the swinging gate, but I think it could have been beneficial in this situation.

Inmateboss

12-20-2009, 03:10 PM

Congratulations to the Carthage Bulldogs!!!! Your team played one hell of a game, and are deserving once again of the title
"State Champions". I hope all of the team are healthy, and proud of a job well done!! Ya'll have a very well rounded football team, awesome Defense, and a very focused Offense! Once again Congrats!!

wimbo_pro

12-20-2009, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by Inmateboss
Congratulations to the Carthage Bulldogs!!!! Your team played one hell of a game, and are deserving once again of the title
"State Champions". I hope all of the team are healthy, and proud of a job well done!! Ya'll have a very well rounded football team, awesome Defense, and a very focused Offense! Once again Congrats!!

Well said InmateBoss. Like I said a few days ago, the two best teams played for all the marbles. The score reflects this fact. What does next years team look like for Graham? How many starters are returning?

RealDawgFan

12-20-2009, 03:53 PM

I read this thread a lot during the last week, but did not post...probably a good thing. I'm a diehard Carthage Bulldog fan and didn't like some of what I read; however, I want to say on this my only post...

GREAT GAME GRAHAM! You really gave us a run for the money...this was one of the most exciting Championships I've seen (even watching College and Pro...) maybe because it was our boys playing, but you really had my heart in my throat...Your defense managed to really shut down our offense and did it better than any team all year. Our defesnse had to work HARD all night to keep your guys under control. On a side note: keep an eye our #1 E. Pope...he's only a sophomore and he is gonna be something someday! And your #33 really showed what a great running back he is...I watch him drag #43 Deaton down the field and thought he was gonna drag him into the endzone! and Kyle is TOUGH... So, props to your team, your coaches and your fans! You are a class act at the game even if some of your posters aren't always on the message boards...but hey, our fans don't always show it on message boards either! Congratulations on a great year!

For those of you who didn't believe Carthage had what it takes...well, BACK2BACK championships should put any rumors to rest that we are the real deal... It wasnt a pretty win, it wasn't a blow out, but a WIN IS A WIN! and this one counts! GO DAWGS!!

wimbo_pro

12-20-2009, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by RealDawgFan

For those of you who didn't believe Carthage had what it takes...well, BACK2BACK championships should put any rumors to rest that we are the real deal... It wasnt a pretty win, it wasn't a blow out, but a WIN IS A WIN! and this one counts! GO DAWGS!!

yep...B2B championships should shut up any critics you might of had! It says it all.

Inmateboss

12-20-2009, 04:06 PM

To the Graham Steers , what can I say but, THANK YOU! Lord what a ride, how much fun was that!!! The 2009 Graham High School Football team gave this town something we have never had before! You brought the people together, heck, you guys had the whole district cheering ya'll on!! It didn't turn out the way I know you guys wanted it to, but you have truly raised the bar for ALL the teams that will follow in your foot steps! Thank you guys for sacrificing your bodies, and time away from your families, for the enjoyment of your fans!! Did ya'll notice all the people in the stands last night?? Why were they there??? It wasn't for the "Prize", we were there for ya'll, each and everyone of you!! It was true, heart felt support for the Graham Steers during their quest!! Ya'll are the Graham Steers!!! We are very proud of the 2009 Graham High School Football TEAM!! Thanks again for an awesome year of Football!!! Now let's saddle up and raise a ruckus in all the sports left for the rest of the year!!!!

GO STEERS !!!!!!

statewide

12-20-2009, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Inmateboss
To the Graham Steers , what can I say but, THANK YOU! Lord what a ride, how much fun was that!!! The 2009 Graham High School Football team gave this town something we have never had before! You brought the people together, heck, you guys had the whole district cheering ya'll on!! It didn't turn out the way I know you guys wanted it to, but you have truly raised the bar for ALL the teams that will follow in your foot steps! Thank you guys for sacrificing your bodies, and time away from your families, for the enjoyment of your fans!! Did ya'll notice all the people in the stands last night?? Why were they there??? It wasn't for the "Prize", we were there for ya'll, each and everyone of you!! It was true, heart felt support for the Graham Steers during their quest!! Ya'll are the Graham Steers!!! We are very proud of the 2009 Graham High School Football TEAM!! Thanks again for an awesome year of Football!!! Now let's saddle up and raise a ruckus in all the sports left for the rest of the year!!!!

GO STEERS !!!!!!

That was as good of a post as I have seen in a long long time.

Inmateboss

12-20-2009, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by 1st&10
Bottom line is that the Bulldogs still won. Yes, the Dawgs had a lot more yards that the Steers but the Steers did make the stops when they had to.....So did the Dawgs. The only real questions of the game is why the Steers didn't try to pass more and why try to fake the pat at the end of the game? It just would have made more sense to line up and just run your best play to try to win the game.

Why didn't the Steers pass more??? You didn't go to the game did you!!! We went with what was working!! The Carthage defense,kept us from passing more!! Plain and simple!! They were like fleas on a stray dog ( no pun ) they were everywhere!!
I could sit here and woulda, shoulda, coulda, but I'll stand by posts, when the clock runs out... 1 might as well be 100 it goes in the books as a"W".

Z-RO

12-20-2009, 04:37 PM

I am not trying to stir anything up but I have a honest question to those directly involved in the Graham program. Was there nobody else in the school who could kick an extra point? Graham had struggled with their kicking game all season long and had not attempted to kick a FG until the playoffs due to the inconsistancy in their kicking game. I would figure SOMEBODY on campus could kick a extra point/FG on a consistant basis.

Z-RO

12-20-2009, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Inmateboss
Why didn't the Steers pass more??? You didn't go to the game did you!!! We went with what was working!! The Carthage defense,kept us from passing more!! Plain and simple!! They were like fleas on a stray dog ( no pun ) they were everywhere!!
I could sit here and woulda, shoulda, coulda, but I'll stand by posts, when the clock runs out... 1 might as well be 100 it goes in the books as a"W".

I have to disagree with this. Graham tried to stick to their game plan by trying to test them deep over and over. If you look at any previous film the Carthage safetys first steps are backwards and to the sides to prevent the deep ball. The short routes and stuff over the middle was open, but they didnt decide to take advantage of that stuff until after halftime.

Inmateboss

12-20-2009, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by oldtownag
Yea, I thought I was complimenting their defense for playing hard when it mattered most.

I too thought our D did a fine job and made a heck of a stand when we need it!! As did ya'lls!! Wish we would have won, but it was still a killer game. I said before the game I hoped it would be down to wire, so that I would know that both teams were leaving it on the field!!! I got that part of my wish, 50/50 not bad!!

Inmateboss

12-20-2009, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Z-RO
I have to disagree with this. Graham tried to stick to their game plan by trying to test them deep over and over. If you look at any previous film the Carthage safetys first steps are backwards and to the sides to prevent the deep ball. The short routes and stuff over the middle was open, but they didnt decide to take advantage of that stuff until after halftime.

... said Jimmy the Greek!!!

Z-RO

12-20-2009, 05:01 PM

I like how you run off at the mouth with no factual substance to back you. Look at the film, as any coach will tell you the film doesnt lie.:rolleyes:

NateDawg39

12-20-2009, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Z-RO
I like how you run off at the mouth with no factual substance to back you. Look at the film, as any coach will tell you the film doesnt lie.:rolleyes: Im not sure who your talking about but yea how dare you whoever you are!! :nerd:

Z-RO

12-20-2009, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by NateDawg39
Im not sure who your talking about but yea how dare you whoever you are!! :nerd:

I was talking to Inmateboss, and it is true. If he would go back and look at the video of the state game as well as several previous games by Carthage he would see what I am talking about....but that would make too much sense for him to comprehend.

NateDawg39

12-20-2009, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Z-RO
I was talking to Inmateboss, and it is true. If he would go back and look at the video of the state game as well as several previous games by Carthage he would see what I am talking about....but that would make too much sense for him to comprehend. Now now lets not be hasty to point people out, that kinda talk gets threads closed eventually ;)

Z-RO

12-20-2009, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by NateDawg39
Now now lets not be hasty to point people out, that kinda talk gets threads closed eventually ;)

He is the one who pointed me out first! All I said was that I disagreed and explained why lol

wimbo_pro

12-20-2009, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Z-RO
He is the one who pointed me out first! All I said was that I disagreed and explained why lol

OK...thats it....BOTH OF YOU....TO YOUR ROOMS!!! AND I MEAN IT!!!

NateDawg39

12-20-2009, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
OK...thats it....BOTH OF YOU....TO YOUR ROOMS!!! AND I MEAN IT!!! And I am canceling that summer trip to the beach you two!

Z-RO

12-20-2009, 05:35 PM

awwwww maaaan...its all your fault! :p

Inmateboss

12-20-2009, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Z-RO
I was talking to Inmateboss, and it is true. If he would go back and look at the video of the state game as well as several previous games by Carthage he would see what I am talking about....but that would make too much sense for him to comprehend.

Don't matter now, water under the bridge!!! Anyway, don't have time to talk about this right now, I'm airing up basketballs!!!!:D

Rustler

12-20-2009, 07:49 PM

Second the holder wasnt even the regular holder but yet your LB who you end up putting into motion.

Quote above from ZRO

Z-RO Not sure the above is correct? Number 8 held last night for the first extra point. Held during warm up also...........I believe he was the holder and threw the kicking tee out of the way.......Wasn't he their receiver on right side?

Dominicfrank

12-20-2009, 08:22 PM

Oh now come on. It was a jump ball and there was NO PUSH at all. Not trying to punk you here at all but it was right in front of me and the other 1000 or so at that end and it was 100% a jump ball where there was ZERO contact to push the other player way from either player. It was 100% a jump ball. Worst call I have ever witnessed.

Deuce

12-20-2009, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Rustler
Second the holder wasnt even the regular holder but yet your LB who you end up putting into motion.

Quote above from ZRO

Z-RO Not sure the above is correct? Number 8 held last night for the first extra point. Held during warm up also...........I believe he was the holder and threw the kicking tee out of the way.......Wasn't he their receiver on right side?

Yes it was the same holder that we have used all year long. He threw the tee then went in motion to left side.

Z-RO

12-20-2009, 08:58 PM

For some reason I thought it was Hiser, my mistake. But that kicker for sure had not seen any action kicking the ball for extra points/field goals all season long.

Not trying to beat a dead horse or anything, but if you are going to use the holder to just block why not put somebody bigger in there to block?

Regardless Grahams kicking game finally bit them in the butt. Its not funny, but that is the difference from being called state champions and state runners up, I feel bad for those kids.

Deuce

12-20-2009, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by Z-RO
For some reason I thought it was Hiser, my mistake. But that kicker for sure had not seen any action kicking the ball for extra points/field goals all season long.

Not trying to beat a dead horse or anything, but if you are going to use the holder to just block why not put somebody bigger in there to block?

Regardless Grahams kicking game finally bit them in the butt. Its not funny, but that is the difference from being called state champions and state runners up, I feel bad for those kids.

Hiser was the one set up to kick the ball, and no I do not believe he tried any extra points. I feel bad for them as well, but they should hold their heads high, as no one expected to make it this far!!

Inmateboss

12-20-2009, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Well said InmateBoss. Like I said a few days ago, the two best teams played for all the marbles. The score reflects this fact. What does next years team look like for Graham? How many starters are returning?

Not for sure Wimbo, we were a little senior heavy this year but we have some real studs in the ranks. We should be fine for the next 2-3 years, thats about as far back as i can tell ! It's good we have a long break, I'm just drained!!! And my son is just a freshman!!:D