When to pull off?

Ozzy · 09-23-2002, 01:52 PM

I just go my sorry butt out of bed and had a thought: when is enough enough. I know some of you think that teams should pull off when they are up in the second half. Some bloody coaches feel that they should score as many points as possible. My question, when and why should a coach quit trying to score if the other team is still trying to?

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**SintonFan_inAustin** · 09-23-2002, 03:29 PM

When ur up by more than 60 points

TarponRl3k · 09-23-2002, 04:07 PM

no need to pull off. theres no harm in sending the other team home in utter humiliation, it should just make them realize that they need to train harder.

**Jacket2000** · 09-23-2002, 04:15 PM

I have to go to the sixman mercy rule and say that once you're up by 45, it's time to call off the dogs. Or, anytime in the 4th quarter when you're up by 30 or more.
Oh, and R13K, I know you've never played the game, so I guess it's not your fault for not knowing this. But you NEVER intentionally run up the score on a team. It's not only classless, but it pisses other coaches off; and the day will come when you field a not-so-great team and you may face that coach who you ran the score up on, or you may even end up coming to him for a job. Never make enemies that you dont have to make.
J2K

**BullsFan** · 09-23-2002, 05:32 PM

What Jacket said. The only time I've ever seen Coach Henson run the score up on another team was completely unintentional. He pulled the first string, the second team scored a couple times. He pulled the second string, the third string started scoring. As he explained to the athletic boosters the following Monday evening, he couldn't very well tell the third string not to score when those guys barely ever got to play. (This was several years ago and we were struggling more at the time than we are now.)

mojjo_1 · 09-23-2002, 05:34 PM

I think when you have the game out of reach then you back off. Play your subs and build some depth. I was wondering about the 83 Dangerfield team. If You have the chance to set a record do you leave your starters in? Example, fewest points allowed season. I believe when the game is out of reach play everybody.

TarponRl3k · 09-23-2002, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by Jacket2000:
I have to go to the sixman mercy rule and say that once you're up by 45, it's time to call off the dogs. Or, anytime in the 4th quarter when you're up by 30 or more.
Oh, and R13K, I know you've never played the game, so I guess it's not your fault for not knowing this. But you NEVER intentionally run up the score on a team. It's not only classless, but it pisses other coaches off; and the day will come when you field a not-so-great team and you may face that coach who you ran the score up on, or you may even end up coming to him for a job. Never make enemies that you dont have to make.
J2K

ouch, that one hurt. OH NO NO NO! I'm not saying to do it intentionally, I'm just saying you shouldn't let them rack up points just to be cautious. I mean, I understand, if you're playing a weak team, then chilling out a little bit is no problem because when you win, what are you even going to have to be proud of. It doesn't matter what the score was, what matters is who came out on top and how well the team played in comparison to their other games.
I'm not saying that if Sinton were playing Santa Rose for some odd reason taht Sinton should just start rackin up points just to see how high the scoreboard can go, but they shouldn't start slacking off.

And at that point, it is good to let players that don't get to play too often get their practice in. I know PI has done that a few times.

**slpybear the bullfan** · 09-23-2002, 06:27 PM

It all depends on what THE GOAL is...

Do you...

1.) Want to enjoy the thrill of scoring points and romping?

Then keep the dogs on and watch out for payback

2.) Want to enjoy the thrill of scoring points and romping teams in November and December?

Then play enough of your team to hone the edge, season the backups, and keep EVERYONE as healthy as possible.

Trust me, the blow outs will happen. But oh, are they sweet when they come in late fall....

slpybear

PS - I eat all of these words when it comes to playing the Decatur Egrets. Hang half a hundred on 'em, then half a hundred more!

**Matthew328** · 09-23-2002, 06:53 PM

Thais is a tough call...sometimes it all depends on the situation...but like J2K said you never intentionally run the score up...you never make enemies you never know when you'll need some film from the coach who's arse you just kicked or you may be out of a job and need one! I say 30 in the 4th or late third is a good margin...I know there are some exceptions..there were a couple of games where Everman was up 50 at the half last year and they were yankin starters in the 1st half..of course people will always point the John Tyler-Plano East game of a few years ago as an argument to leave the starters in...I had the pleasure of being at that game which in my opinion was the most unbeleiveable game I have ever seen at any level of football

**BullsFan** · 09-23-2002, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by Matthew328:
of course people will always point the John Tyler-Plano East game of a few years ago as an argument to leave the starters in...I had the pleasure of being at that game which in my opinion was the most unbeleiveable game I have ever seen at any level of football

I remember seeing the highlights of that game on the news--several times. Now *that* is the kind of game that will break your heart.

**District303aPastPlayer** · 09-23-2002, 11:37 PM

what was the score on that game, i dont remember hearing anything about that.

**Jacket2000** · 09-24-2002, 12:33 AM

The final score was JT-48, PE-44, but the amazing thing was the way it ended. JT built a 41-17 lead with about 3 minutes left in the game. Plano East scored, recovered the onside kick, scored with 2 point coversion, recovered another onside kick, scored again, recovered another onside kick and scored again 26 seconds left to take the lead 44-41. This time PE kicked it deep and JT returned it 97 yards for the winning TD.
J2K

***sinton66*** · 09-24-2002, 06:52 AM

I agree with the principle not to do it intentionally. However, whether or not it actually is intentional is highly subjective. To be honest, I don't know too many coaches who would intentionally run up the score on weak opponents. Everman and Sinton were both accused of that several times last season. In my opinion it isn't intentionally running up the score when you put the subs in and they continue the barrage in regular season games. Playoffs are a different matter. In the playoffs, you go til the whistle blows because if you don't, you're gonna get your butt kicked. It isn't the job of the offense to hold down the score. That's what they make defenses for, and why it's said "Defense wins Championships".

ATMO · 09-24-2002, 08:10 AM

Isn't anytime your score in a football game an "intentional" score. Isn't that the goal of the offense. So if you are scoring, whether it be with 1's, 2's, or 3's, scoring late in the game is "intentional". So what are you going to tell the reserves: Go play hard, but whatever you do, don't score. I've been on both ends. And what about the offensive plan. Do you let the reserves run what they have practiced all year, or do you run the base dive 33 times in a row. That would not be fun as a back-up receiver or QB. I say, let the kids play, give them a chance to be successful, and score if you have the opportunity.

bulldog65 · 09-24-2002, 09:22 AM

I agree 66, I don't think any coach in his right mind would intentionaly run up the score. You also have a "W" to protect, and what do you tell your 2nd & 3rd teams, not to try? I believe those players need seasoning, after all, they are probably next years team.

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