Brett Favre

[coach]

is he overrated or is he really as good as people say he is?

[Old Tiger]

overrated. but don't tell his followers that or they'll flip out.

[big daddy russ]

Ya'll are too young to remember this, but he won his first MVP "miraculously." All the pundits at the time said there was no way it would happen again, that it was just a fluke, and that Jim Kelly, Emmitt Smith, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Dan Marino, or someone of that caliber would win it the following year. I know this because I actually watched SportsCenter back then.

Also said that the Packers were just a fluke, that they shouldn't have gone that far in the '95 playoffs, and that Favre was only the third-best QB in the NFC.

He went on to win three consecutive MVP's and a SuperBowl. Not because of the talent around him, but because of him. That Packers team was nowhere close to as good as the 49ers, Cowboys, or even the Bills and Broncos, without Favre. But he still took them to the title game. Twice.

Also, don't forget that Green Bay benched All-Pro QB Don Majkowski in favor of Favre. Granted, Majkowski had lost some of his zip due to injury, but he was still a decent QB.

The interceptions go hand-in-hand with QB's like Favre, Dan Marino, Sonny Jurgensen, etc. They're arm guys, gunslingers, the last of a dying breed. You young'uns can't remember those QB's because they're hardly around anymore. QB's are molded differently these days, from being the center of the offense to being a relay point between the offensive coordinator and the rest of the team. These guys aren't scared to throw it into triple coverage even when all the coaches say you shouldn't do it or change the play in the huddle (to my knowledge, Peyton Manning's the only QB in the league today allowed to do this on a regular basis) because they think they can get the ball somewhere that the defense doesn't.

He's every bit as good as they say he was. The best QB of the 90's (and it pains me to say that because Marino is my favorite player) and the only player to ever win three straight MVP's. And guess what? He's doing it again this year.

[eagles_victory]

In his prime he was one of the greatest to ever play. But right now I think the way that he is playing is being overrated. I think he is going to come back to Earth in these last few games.

[rangerjim]

How can a quarterback guide his team to a 10-2 record and be over rated? Look at what Grossman did for the Bears last year - 14-2 and goes to the superbowl - was Grossman over rated?????? (sorry couldn't resist)

Providing Farve's elbow isn't too bad, he will be average the rest of the year. Career wise don't see him as over rated - how many consecutive starts does he have, over 240 I think, superbowl ring, 3 MVP's - Farve will be in the Hall of Fame.

[BMOC]

He is a winner, and a leader of that team.

[firstcat]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
Ya'll are too young to remember this, but he won his first MVP "miraculously." All the pundits at the time said there was no way it would happen again, that it was just a fluke, and that Jim Kelly, Emmitt Smith, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Dan Marino, or someone of that caliber would win it the following year. I know this because I actually watched SportsCenter back then.

Also said that the Packers were just a fluke, that they shouldn't have gone that far in the '95 playoffs, and that Favre was only the third-best QB in the NFC.

He went on to win three consecutive MVP's and a SuperBowl. Not because of the talent around him, but because of him. That Packers team was nowhere close to as good as the 49ers, Cowboys, or even the Bills and Broncos, without Favre. But he still took them to the title game. Twice.

Also, don't forget that Green Bay benched All-Pro QB Don Majkowski in favor of Favre. Granted, Majkowski had lost some of his zip due to injury, but he was still a decent QB.

The interceptions go hand-in-hand with QB's like Favre, Dan Marino, Sonny Jurgensen, etc. They're arm guys, gunslingers, the last of a dying breed. You young'uns can't remember those QB's because they're hardly around anymore. QB's are molded differently these days, from being the center of the offense to being a relay point between the offensive coordinator and the rest of the team. These guys aren't scared to throw it into triple coverage even when all the coaches say you shouldn't do it or change the play in the huddle (to my knowledge, Peyton Manning's the only QB in the league today allowed to do this on a regular basis) because they think they can get the ball somewhere that the defense doesn't.

He's every bit as good as they say he was. The best QB of the 90's (and it pains me to say that because Marino is my favorite player) and the only player to ever win three straight MVP's. And guess what? He's doing it again this year.

BDR...you rock! GO PACKERS!!! Brett Favre will go down as one of the best the NFL has ever had. If he ever goes down....must be something special if his latest year is as good or better than his first!!!!

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by Go Blue
overrated. but don't tell his followers that or they'll flip out.

He is a hard-nosed QB, he takes shots and gets right back on the field. For his age, he is not overrated.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
He is a hard-nosed QB, he takes shots and gets right back on the field. For his age, he is not overrated.

Career wise homie. He's hurt his team a whole hell of a lot more than he has helped it.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
He is a hard-nosed QB, he takes shots and gets right back on the field. For his age, he is not overrated.

Don't listen to Go Blue. He thinks every QB is overrated, except VY.

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Career wise homie. He's hurt his team a whole hell of a lot more than he has helped it.

I beg to differ....

[g$$]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
Ya'll are too young to remember this, but he won his first MVP "miraculously." All the pundits at the time said there was no way it would happen again, that it was just a fluke, and that Jim Kelly, Emmitt Smith, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Dan Marino, or someone of that caliber would win it the following year. I know this because I actually watched SportsCenter back then.

Also said that the Packers were just a fluke, that they shouldn't have gone that far in the '95 playoffs, and that Favre was only the third-best QB in the NFC.

He went on to win three consecutive MVP's and a SuperBowl. Not because of the talent around him, but because of him. That Packers team was nowhere close to as good as the 49ers, Cowboys, or even the Bills and Broncos, without Favre. But he still took them to the title game. Twice.

Also, don't forget that Green Bay benched All-Pro QB Don Majkowski in favor of Favre. Granted, Majkowski had lost some of his zip due to injury, but he was still a decent QB.

The interceptions go hand-in-hand with QB's like Favre, Dan Marino, Sonny Jurgensen, etc. They're arm guys, gunslingers, the last of a dying breed. You young'uns can't remember those QB's because they're hardly around anymore. QB's are molded differently these days, from being the center of the offense to being a relay point between the offensive coordinator and the rest of the team. These guys aren't scared to throw it into triple coverage even when all the coaches say you shouldn't do it or change the play in the huddle (to my knowledge, Peyton Manning's the only QB in the league today allowed to do this on a regular basis) because they think they can get the ball somewhere that the defense doesn't.

He's every bit as good as they say he was. The best QB of the 90's (and it pains me to say that because Marino is my favorite player) and the only player to ever win three straight MVP's. And guess what? He's doing it again this year.

Great post & agreed.

Buddy of mine works as a petroleum engineer & has some rigs in Mississippi. He has met some childhood & college friends of Brett's who say he has never changed. Still the same country boy from Kiln, MS & always will be. Also tell some good stories from Brett's partying days! Wife is easy on the eyes too.

Legend & a man's man. Love to watch him play ball & just a good guy. Fearless gunslinger. Don't tell Go Blue or other youngsters who watch him now - they will probably tell you Simms or Applewhite or Joe Blow or VY is better! Give me a break.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by g$$
Great post & agreed.

Legend & a man's man. Love to watch him play ball & just a good guy. Fearless gunslinger. Don't tell Go Blue or other youngsters who watch him now - they will probably tell you Simms or Applewhite or Joe Blow is better! Give me a break.

Peyton and Tom are in another league compared to brett.

[g$$]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Peyton and Tom are in another league compared to brett.

Brett Favre in his prime (mid to late 1990s) can compare to anyone. Anyone, look it up. Team #s, SB win, MVPs, & his stats too.

You are too young to know better.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by g$$
Brett Favre in his prime (mid to late 1990s) can compare to anyone. Anyone, look it up. Team #s, SB win, MVPs, & his stats too.

You are too young to know better.

He can't compare to Montana or Marino. Those two are also heads and heels above Favre. Right now in their career Peyton and Tom are above him too. Steve young is above him. He's a top 10 QB sure but he gets to much credit for how good his team is.