Heisman Trophy Should Have Beens?

**Phil C** · 02-11-2005, 02:43 PM

Do you have any opinions on who didn't win the Heisman Trophy but should have? This is not to put down the winners as unworthy but that you feel someone else was more worthy and is just an opinion discussion and not intended to be a put down. I think Jimmy Brown should have won it at Syracuse in 1956 instead of Paul Hornung at Notre Dame. Hornung was a major surprise because he is the only player to win for a team that had a losing record. Hornung was a great player and did good in the NFL but Jim Brown should have got it in my opinion and he was the better Pro Football player. I don't know why he didn't win it but it may have been because he was black (remember this was in the mid 1950s) and maybe Notre Dame had more influence at that time because of the tradition. I know that several voters were so upset that they never voted in the Heisman race again.

**big daddy russ** · 02-11-2005, 03:03 PM

I thought Alex Smith should've won it this year and that LB Marvin Jones out of FSU should've beat Gino Torretta of Miami back in the early-90's. I thought Darnell Autry of Northwestern should've beat Eddie George back in '95 and that Mike Vick and Joe Hamilton should both have got more votes than Ron Dayne in the last race of the millenium.

Recently, they've turned the Heisman into a "best player on the best team" award or a career acheivement award (like Dayne). I guess the purist in me still thinks of the Heisman as its original intention... the award that goes to the BEST player in college football. The MVP award. The easiest way for me to judge that would be to take that one player off that team, replace him with an average player and try to imagine how much worse that team would be. Darnell Autry single-handedly turned Northwestern into a Big Ten power back in '95. Eddie George played for powerhouse Ohio State, which has always been good but still finished second to the Wildcats in the Big Ten standings. NW went on to the Rose Bowl with only a great running back and a great coach (Gary Barnett) to brag about.

**HighSchool Fan** · 02-11-2005, 03:06 PM

you guys are forgetting the most obvious one. Brian Bosworth, probably the best college LB ever. i can't stand the guy, but he was a stud in college.

**big daddy russ** · 02-11-2005, 03:08 PM

Hey HSF, was he a senior when Bo Jackson was (1985) or the year after?

**HighSchool Fan** · 02-11-2005, 05:36 PM

Bosworth graduated in 1986

**rockdale80** · 02-11-2005, 07:37 PM

Ken Dorsey (QB, 2002)
A first-team All-America by the American Football Coaches Association (AFCA) and the Walter Camp Football Foundation...a two-time Heisman Trophy Finalist (3rd in 2001, 5th in 2002)...the BIG EAST Conference Offensive Player of the Year in 2001 & 2002...a three-time first-team All-BIG EAST selection (2000-2002)...led UM on a 34-game win streak...led UM to the 2001 national championship...led UM to the brink of a national title in 2002...finalist for the Johnny Unitas Award and the Davey O'Brien Award in 2002...2001 Maxwell Award winner...MVP of the 2001 Sugar Bowl and the 2002 Rose Bowl...winningest quarterback in UM history (38-2 record)...set eight UM career records (total offense, passing yards, passing touchdowns, pass completions, pass attempts, win percentage, 200-yard games)...completed 222-of-393 passes for 3,369 yards and 28 touchdowns with 12 interceptions in 2002...passed for 422 yards at West Virginia...native of Orinda, California.

**rockdale80** · 02-13-2005, 01:53 AM

noone else going to answer...i was interested to hear what everyone had to say about it.

**Astrosdawg07** · 02-13-2005, 02:01 AM

Cedric Benson! Wasn't even a finalist!

**PhiI C** · 02-13-2005, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Astrosdawg07
Cedric Benson! Wasn't even a finalist!

**Maroon87** · 02-13-2005, 04:57 PM

It's kinda funny when you look back at some of the winners and then look a little deeper and find out who DIDN'T win that same year. For instance...

*1982---George Rogers over Eric Dickerson
*1989--- Andre Ware over Emmitt Smith
*1996---Danny Wuerffel over Peyton Manning
*1999---Ron Dayne over Michael Vick

Just a few examples. Not to say that the guy who won didn't deserve it, but it's weird how so many who have won it didn't do nearly as well at the pro level as some of the Heisman "also rans."

**HighSchool Fan** · 02-13-2005, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Maroon87
It's kinda funny when you look back at some of the winners and then look a little deeper and find out who DIDN'T win that same year. For instance...

*1982---George Rogers over Eric Dickerson
*1989--- Andre Ware over Emmitt Smith
*1996---Danny Wuerffel over Peyton Manning
*1999---Ron Dayne over Michael Vick

Just a few examples. Not to say that the guy who won didn't deserve it, but it's weird how so many who have won it didn't do nearly as well at the pro level as some of the Heisman "also rans."

Herschal Walker won the heisman in 82. Rogers won it in 80

**Maroon87** · 02-13-2005, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
Herschal Walker won the heisman in 82. Rogers won it in 80

You are correct! I always think that Walker won the Heisman the same year Georgia won the national title (1980).

Leopards,class of 75 · 02-13-2005, 11:17 PM

How about the QB from Nebraska? He don't even play in the N.F.L.

**Astrosdawg07** · 02-13-2005, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by Leopards,class of 75
How about the QB from Nebraska? He don't even play in the N.F.L.

Oh Eric Crouch, he was a good college runner/player.

**big daddy russ** · 02-14-2005, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by Leopards,class of 75
How about the QB from Nebraska? He don't even play in the N.F.L.

Are you talking about Tommy Frazier back in '95? Definitely more deserving than Eddie George.

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