Is Argyle loaded for a title run this year???

[orange machine]

Watching the Argyle Grapevine scrimmage. Argyle is real good and the oline is big, but I thought they would be better. They dont run block very good. They do pass block good, but grapevine is killing Argyles running backs.

Argyle has no deep threat and wants to throw the ball short to within 15 yards.

Number 70 for Argyle on the oline is a pretty dirty player. I've seen him 3 times now cheap shot a grapevine player. He just got a 15 yard penalty.

Argyle is gonna make the money on defense, they fly to the ball and are good run stoppers, but if you have a good passing game and a deep threat Argyle looks like they will be in a little trouble. Argyles secondary isnt very fast either.

Overall they appear to be a good team in mid season form, but they are not world beaters. In saying that you gonna have to play your A game to beat them.

[orange machine]

Grapevine just wore Argyles defense out passing the ball for a td drive.

[orange machine]

Argyle won live at 21 to 7.

Argyle is a good team and looks to be in mid season form which you would expect from a mostly senior team. They can make a run.

[Caveman]

Argyle won live at 21 to 7.

Argyle is a good team and looks to be in mid season form which you would expect from a mostly senior team. They can make a run.

Don't forget Grapevine is a former 6a team that's supposed to win it's district. How many 4a teams could beat this team as handily as they did tonight?

[regaleagle]

Argyle's O-line is still not in form yet......not a team or blocking unit on the runs. They do pass block very well. Argyle's secondary intercepted 2 passes, and got burned on one long ball. The Grapevine speedster wideout would burn any D-back on any team as long as the qb could get him the ball......he's a definitive threat when he catches one......you cannot match up with him in the open field and will not catch him from behind. Other than that guy and a tall #14 at qb that can really throw it well......Argyle outplayed Grapevine in every category. Argyle's O-line will need some time to come together, but still opened a few holes for both rb's to break some long runs. Maybe those LB's for Grapevine and their D-Line should get some credit. Denison last week was not nearly as effective on the lines as Grapevine was. Grapevine went 9-3 last season in D1 5A playoffs. Dillon Carter looked good tonite for not having any practice behind him. He will definitely be a force in the secondary. Brendan Dixon intercepted one also. Overall, this scrimmage gave both teams some looks and play they both needed. Lots of room for improvement on both sides......both teams have some talent. Both teams are playoff contenders for a regional title, IMO. The qb's for Argyle did not disappoint.....again. I can imagine watching this team at the start of district play......they will be much improved by then.

[regaleagle]

On a side note......I was not very impressed with all the high and low snaps from the Argyle center. He will definitely need to improve in the long snap category.....he needs more consistency to help out the qbs for a smoother offensive transition. That little thing would vastly improve the way the offense clicks.

[orange machine]

Dave Campbell has them picked to place 3rd. I was kinda surprised at how small Grapevine was and the lack of skilled players.

[regaleagle]

Dave Campbell has them picked to place 3rd. I was kinda surprised at how small Grapevine was and the lack of skilled players.

You and me both.......Denison has bigger players overall. But Grapevine does have some skill players and a good run defense. I like their D-line play and LB's. Their secondary needs lots of work. Their qbs were good, but their O-line looked weak against the Argyle D. They have some speedsters at the skill positions, but depend too much on those players to make the plays without much blocking support. I'm pretty sure there are at least 6 teams in 4A D1 that can play with Grapevine no problem......maybe more. The fact is simple......there are some really good teams in 4A D1 this year. Grapevine's enrollment is 1880......Argyle's is 854......go figure.

[orange machine]

You and me both.......Denison has bigger players overall. But Grapevine does have some skill players and a good run defense. I like their D-line play and LB's. Their secondary needs lots of work. Their qbs were good, but their O-line looked weak against the Argyle D. They have some speedsters at the skill positions, but depend too much on those players to make the plays without much blocking support. I'm pretty sure there are at least 6 teams in 4A D1 that can play with Grapevine no problem......maybe more. The fact is simple......there are some really good teams in 4A D1 this year. Grapevine's enrollment is 1880......Argyle's is 854......go figure.

I agree and disagree lol. I didnt think Grapevine had many good skilled kids, but they did rely to much on making the big play. When Argyke brought the house Grapevine had no answer. Not having a running qb killed Grapevine. As for teams in 4a beating Grapevine, I dont think Grapevine would be a top 10 team in 4a dl. 4a dl is a juggernaut this year. I think the top 15 in 4a dl all have a shot.

[orange machine]

Argyle is really good that's for sure, but I'm interested to see how they do against teams with speed and a qb that can actually run the ball. I didnt think Argyle was all that fast. Argyle did a good job at run stopping, but seemed to struggle stopping the passing game. Overall i think the defense is Argyles strong part. A fast defense is gonna be able to stop a lot of those short passes to the sidelines and all the yac yards.

Saying all that Argyle is definitely a top 5 team and gonna be a handful for any team.

[regaleagle]

Argyle is really good that's for sure, but I'm interested to see how they do against teams with speed and a qb that can actually run the ball. I didnt think Argyle was all that fast. Argyle did a good job at run stopping, but seemed to struggle stopping the passing game. Overall i think the defense is Argyles strong part. A fast defense is gonna be able to stop a lot of those short passes to the sidelines and all the yac yards.

Saying all that Argyle is definitely a top 5 team and gonna be a handful for any team.

Yep.....I agree with you on your analysis at this juncture, OM. I can see some areas that need some shoring up on both sides of the ball, but overall I also know the Argyle coaching staff will be working diligently to get those areas tightened up. It's not like these players are out of position or don't have what it takes to be solid.....they just need some work and minutes again......they are rusty. It's very early in the season and some good teams are coming to town. Next week should tell us alot more about how far along Argyle is at this juncture. In the Live part of the scrimmage Argyle looked much better.....did you notice the difference?