Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Stang View Post

Ok, I'm gonna break a site rule.
The so-called "conservatives" have gotten their way so much over the past three decades, that it seems any proposals they have left are not only counter productive, but just plain weird.

At this point in our culture, conservative, liberal, republic, democrat ... it's all just a bunch of nonsense that means nothing anymore. You might as well call them team names like the Rangers, the Cowboys, the Oilers, the Mavericks ... etc. It's all about picking your team and winning. Just win, baby! That's the way of American politics these days.