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    Quote Originally Posted by ctown81 View Post
    If the kid was not arrested and this happened off campus, what could Surratt really do about it? You can't punish a kid who was never charged. I'm no attorney but I imagine the Qb's family could potentially sue the district if that happened.
    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.

    Football coaches punish football players for EVERYTHING.

    If there's a rumor that they were drinking, they can get punished.

    If they were late for class, they can get punished.

    If they mouthed off to another teacher, they can get punished.

    That happens every freaking day in high school football in this state.

    But apparently in your (and Saggy Aggy's) strange little world, you can't punish the star QB for sharing a clandestine recording you made of a naked sophomore unless the DA levels a charge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Weebe View Post
    I think stripping the title is meaningless.

    This should be about the girls getting justice, not football.

    That being said, if the assistant coach was a part of this and Surratt (and any other administrators) was aware of it and did nothing, then they all should be out of a jobs.
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb585 View Post
    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.

    Football coaches punish football players for EVERYTHING.

    If there's a rumor that they were drinking, they can get punished.

    If they were late for class, they can get punished.

    If they mouthed off to another teacher, they can get punished.

    That happens every freaking day in high school football in this state.

    But apparently in your (and Saggy Aggy's) strange little world, you can't punish the star QB for sharing a clandestine recording you made of a naked sophomore unless the DA levels a charge.

    It happened during baseball season last year. He was punished. Missed playing time. Had to do extra conditioning as punishment. Obviously it wasn’t enough, but the kid was punished. Why would he be punished again the next school year during football season?

    But I definetly agree. The football coach can discipline his players for pretty much anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb585 View Post
    Bingo.
    Everybody loves this post. Honestly, I do too. But the problem is 98% of people that have an opinion on this topic are making it about football. How there was some big cover up for a JV quarterback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgs View Post
    Everybody loves this post. Honestly, I do too. But the problem is 98% of people that have an opinion on this topic are making it about football. How there was some big cover up for a JV quarterback.
    He was JV when it happened, but was varsity the next football season. No matter how you paint it, what the kid did was criminal under child pornography laws. The assistant coach that viewed it (supposedly) is no longer there but should still be charged. While Scott may not have had anything to do with it, and "thought" the issue had been taken care of, the problem is he knew about the incident. I'm not convicting anybody, and they will have their day in court, but the ball was dropped at every level until the feds stepped in. As a parent of two daughters myself, this would be unacceptable. Something should have been done right away. I likely would've been wearing an orange jumpsuit right now if this would've been one of my daughters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterboy View Post
    He was JV when it happened, but was varsity the next football season. No matter how you paint it, what the kid did was criminal under child pornography laws. The assistant coach that viewed it (supposedly) is no longer there but should still be charged. While Scott may not have had anything to do with it, and "thought" the issue had been taken care of, the problem is he knew about the incident. I'm not convicting anybody, and they will have their day in court, but the ball was dropped at every level until the feds stepped in. As a parent of two daughters myself, this would be unacceptable. Something should have been done right away. I likely would've been wearing an orange jumpsuit right now if this would've been one of my daughters.
    I understand what you're saying and agree all should be punished but how could the school or head coach stop the spread of the video? The plantiffs feel CISD did not do enough to stop distribution of the video. As for the player, if it's denied, what can the coach really do? In order to make decisions like that you need definitive proof or you could be liable for suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctown81 View Post
    I understand what you're saying and agree all should be punished but how could the school or head coach stop the spread of the video? The plantiffs feel CISD did not do enough to stop distribution of the video. As for the player, if it's denied, what can the coach really do? In order to make decisions like that you need definitive proof or you could be liable for suit.
    A parent may sue a school district under Title IX for student-to-student sexual harassment if severe, persistent and highly offensive sexual misconduct impedes a student’s access to the benefits of an education, and the school district, with actual knowledge of the harassment, acted unreasonably in failing to stop the misconduct.

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    Damn, I should check in more often in the off-season!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostaussie View Post
    Damn, I should check in more often in the off-season!!!
    This is my 2 cents worth.
    This has nothing to do with Coach Surratt or the football program.
    No one from the school can give their side of what they did because of the law suit.
    I can guarantee you as soon as coach Surratt was advised about the assistant coach passing on the video or picture, he was fired.
    I am the father of a beautiful young lady and I would have filed charges, law suit, or what ever else I could have done when it happened.
    Why was the suit filled two years latter, I don't know unless the statute of limitations was running out.
    The kid was 15 years old and hopefully his dad beat the tar out of him and explained what the young lady was having to go through because of his stupid mistake.
    I bet if you people on here would admit to it, your are glad they did not have I phones when you were 15 years old.
    I pray for the young lady and her mother having to go through this terrible ordeal.
    I feel like they will settle out of court, but money can never buy self esteem and the young lady will have to find away to deal with this tragedy.
    I pray for the young man and his family because remember this God forgives, but he does not take away the punishment. The young man will have to live with this as it follows him through life.
    God Bless and may his mercy and grace be with you all.

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    Who took the video? It sounds like he spread it around, but who took the original video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panfan View Post
    Who took the video? It sounds like he spread it around, but who took the original video?
    The qb allegedly put his phone in the bathroom and filmed her getting dressed/taking a shower.


    I have also heard that the assistant coach named is on paid leave right now for a related incident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctown81 View Post
    I understand what you're saying and agree all should be punished but how could the school or head coach stop the spread of the video? The plantiffs feel CISD did not do enough to stop distribution of the video. As for the player, if it's denied, what can the coach really do? In order to make decisions like that you need definitive proof or you could be liable for suit.
    The police department failed to take the allegation seriously enough to confiscate the phone in question and get the proof needed. Make no mistake about it, the police department could've and should've got a warrant with an allegation of this magnitude. The principal should've insisted that much because of the seriousness of the charge. I agree that the coaches' hands were tied because of the lack of actual proof. It's a chain of events where the ball was dropped repeatedly, leaving them in the situation they are in now. The parents of the young lady shouldn't have HAD to go to the feds for action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgs View Post
    He wasn’t charged with a crime. His punishment was pre-trial diversion with no formal charges. It’s not a case of if he did it, it’s a case of two counts of Title IX violations and three violations under the 14th amendment for due process and equal protection. They want money from the school due to the fact that they feel like the school did not protect the young lady. The parent is suing for actual damages, compensatory damages, nominal damages, punitive damages, court and litigation costs, expert fees, attorneys' fees, statutory interest and injunctive relief.

    Here is a better article that explains it better:
    http://www.easttexasmatters.com/news...tter_reaganroy

    But there are a lot of things missing from what’s been published. It’s only telling one side, and trying to make it sound as bad as possible. And the tactic about trying to make it about football is very smart considering how successful Surratt and Carthage have been. There is already some unrest about Surratt’s salary, the emphasis that is put on winning, and our facilities.
    Had to have been charged to receive pre-trial diversion. May not have been arrested though. No opinions to give at this time regarding the incident but just wanted to give some info on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coach View Post
    The qb allegedly put his phone in the bathroom and filmed her getting dressed/taking a shower.


    I have also heard that the assistant coach named is on paid leave right now for a related incident.
    Paid leave? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgs View Post
    Paid leave? Really?

    That's what I heard from a pretty reliable source.
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