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    They have scheduled incarnate word. Let that sink in for a moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macarthur View Post
    Fair enough.



    They are not saying the head to head doesn't matter. They're simply saying that it is not the only factor. You have admitted that TCU passes the eyeball test for you and you're not exactly unbiased. If you put Baylor ahead of TCU, you are elevating head to head above all other factors. This committee, whether you agree or not, is taking many variables into account. And they have VERY CLEARLY said that the weak OOC schedule is one of them. I think Baylor is being hurt too by the Incarnate Word news and I guarantee you that hiring the PR firm didn't set well in that room last night.

    Baylor has handled this very poorly and they actually have a history of this. They handled the A&M leaving the Big 12 thing very poorly. I think the alumni of this school need to give a serious look at the leadership because they have repeatedly given the school a black eye.
    Hey, if head to head doesn't matter then I guess it won't be the only factor than when Bama beats Florida State in National Championship! They finished with the same record, but Florida State's loss to Alabama is better than Alabama's loss to Ole Miss! It's all about the body of work!




    Jk lol. When A&M almost blew up the Big 12 I hated them also, so I won't blame the school for anything, they almost forced us into the Ivy League. I remember hearing that from multiple football players and even a few parking lots on campus were dug up so they could add more grass on campus to meet the Ivy League campus standards. Thank God that didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macarthur View Post
    I'm not sure what to tell you. You and the folks in Waco are just about the only folks in the country that think Baylor should be ahead of TCU.

    What it boils down to is that TCU s loss - on the road to a top 10 team is much better than baylors loss to a very mediocre 5 loss team by two TDs. And you throw in the weak OOC schedule and you have your diff.

    And let's not forget how that TCU baylor game ended. TCU got royally screwed out of that win. Plain and simple. It's also not helping Baylor that they now have incarnate word on their schedule and they've hired a PR firm to sway opinion.

    Baylor is their own worst enemy in this deal.
    A game scheduled for 2019 has 0 bearing on the 2014 season.

    I'm not arguing the losses thing, but what is TCU's best win? And then tell me what baylor's best win is.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saggy Aggie View Post
    A game scheduled for 2019 has 0 bearing on the 2014 season.
    It shouldn't but I'm not so sure that the committee hasn't discussed it. And I'm sure they would say that doesn't factor into their decision, but I can't imagine that there is more to all this than just what has happened on the field. You don't think the committee was more than a little put off by Baylor hiring a PR firm? Are you serious? Who is advising these people?

    I'm not arguing the losses thing, but what is TCU's best win? And then tell me what baylor's best win is.....
    http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

    There is a pretty wide gap in the SoS. If fact, if you want to look deeper into it, TCU's SoS is better than Oregon and FSU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macarthur View Post
    It shouldn't but I'm not so sure that the committee hasn't discussed it. And I'm sure they would say that doesn't factor into their decision, but I can't imagine that there is more to all this than just what has happened on the field. You don't think the committee was more than a little put off by Baylor hiring a PR firm? Are you serious? Who is advising these people?



    http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

    There is a pretty wide gap in the SoS. If fact, if you want to look deeper into it, TCU's SoS is better than Oregon and FSU.
    I'm not saying I disagree and that's fine and all, but you didn't answer the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saggy Aggie View Post
    I'm not saying I disagree and that's fine and all, but you didn't answer the question.
    At the time, OU. At this point prob KSU.

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    And don't underestimate how beating UT like they did may have helped them. UT is t good but they did beat them very convincingly and physically whipped UT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macarthur View Post
    At the time, OU. At this point prob KSU.
    Right, TCU barely getting by OU...

    Baylor spanked the same OU team. Also, Baylor has a win over a top 4 team....

    And if they win this weekend, they'll have also beaten KSU, the only other good win TCU has.

    And agreed on the UT point, but Baylor spanked them too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saggy Aggie View Post
    Right, TCU barely getting by OU...

    Baylor spanked the same OU team. Also, Baylor has a win over a top 4 team....

    And if they win this weekend, they'll have also beaten KSU, the only other good win TCU has.

    And agreed on the UT point, but Baylor spanked them too
    Sure and I've said earlier on this same thread, I think, that if Baylor handles KSU as well as tcu, they will have a legitimate point. They have to get past KSU first.

    I disagree that Baylor spanked UT. That was just an ugly game. Baylor was not sharp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macarthur View Post
    Sure and I've said earlier on this same thread, I think, that if Baylor handles KSU as well as tcu, they will have a legitimate point. They have to get past KSU first.

    I disagree that Baylor spanked UT. That was just an ugly game. Baylor was not sharp.
    Didn't watch it, just saw the final score and it was convincing enough

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    TCU is the best team overall in the Big 12. Our conference should want to send the best team with the best chance to do well in the playoffs.

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    More to chew on...
    When TCU beat OU, OU was ranked higher than when Baylor played them.
    Same thing for when they played OSU and KState.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macarthur View Post
    Sure and I've said earlier on this same thread, I think, that if Baylor handles KSU as well as tcu, they will have a legitimate point. They have to get past KSU first.

    I disagree that Baylor spanked UT. That was just an ugly game. Baylor was not sharp.
    I'll agree with that. Baylor definitely struggled and the game was closer than the score indicated. Baylor got some late points in garbage time, but the Baylor's defense played pretty well in that game. I was never really worried that Texas was going to get back in it.

    By the way, Baylor hiring a PR firm is being blown way out of proportion. Conference USA hired a firm for Marshall earlier this season and that got almost no press. Regardless, I think hiring a PR firm is pointless in this situation.

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