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    Quote Originally Posted by hookandladder View Post
    Amazing how Missouri only took two years to make it to the sec championship, also played Auburn pretty much toe to toe. I guess Missouri had some great recruiting classes the last 2 or 3 years, maybe just great coaching.

    come on you're smarter and know football....Missouri had a great D line...I just reference the Aggies wouldn't win a conference title with a young D. The Aggies also played Auburn toe to toe....Manziel gets hurt on a promising drive inside the red zone then marches them down field in closing minutes and (not bellying aching) should of gotten them inside the 10 but a missed horse collar call they lose...but it is what is a loss. Also Missouri plays in the East a little bit different from the West. Missouri had a great season maybe it was coaching that potential I mentioned in the order thread up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Tiger View Post
    Has it been proven in Sumlin's entire career that he can develop players? IMO that is a big unknown for him.

    Well what Sumlin s been a HC for what about 4-5-6 years idk.....but I could be wrong but I pretty sure the job to developed that talent falls on the shoulders of his staff.

    I think too many times people on here give way too much credit to the HC...it's his staff.............you should know that -example Mack gets rid of Manny brings in a Robinson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NastySlot View Post
    come on you're smarter and know football....Missouri had a great D line...I just reference the Aggies wouldn't win a conference title with a young D. The Aggies also played Auburn toe to toe....Manziel gets hurt on a promising drive inside the red zone then marches them down field in closing minutes and (not bellying aching) should of gotten them inside the 10 but a missed horse collar call they lose...but it is what is a loss. Also Missouri plays in the East a little bit different from the West. Missouri had a great season maybe it was coaching that potential I mentioned in the order thread up.
    So your saying coaching may have put Missouri over the top, I can see that which is the same thing we are saying about Texas. Mack did a great job for Texas, now it is time for Strong to do a better job of coaching the talent that is there at Texas now. One of Mack's biggest problems was not recruiting better at QB, just bad judgement on him and his staff in that position. If's win nothing, it's the W that counts at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NastySlot View Post
    Well what Sumlin s been a HC for what about 4-5-6 years idk.....but I could be wrong but I pretty sure the job to developed that talent falls on the shoulders of his staff.

    I think too many times people on here give way too much credit to the HC...it's his staff.............you should know that -example Mack gets rid of Manny brings in a Robinson.
    You are exactly correct the blame lies on him and his staff , same at UH. No defense at UH and his first two years at atm, no defense. Let's see if this staff now can put a defense on the field next year because those will be his recruits, there can be no excuses with the recruiting classes he has brought in the last couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NastySlot View Post
    Well what Sumlin s been a HC for what about 4-5-6 years idk.....but I could be wrong but I pretty sure the job to developed that talent falls on the shoulders of his staff.

    I think too many times people on here give way too much credit to the HC...it's his staff.............you should know that -example Mack gets rid of Manny brings in a Robinson.
    Offense, Mack's specialty, has remained the same outside of when VY and Colt were QB's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hookandladder View Post
    You are exactly correct the blame lies on him and his staff , same at UH. No defense at UH and his first two years at atm, no defense. Let's see if this staff now can put a defense on the field next year because those will be his recruits, there can be no excuses with the recruiting classes he has brought in the last couple years.
    I think A&M's defense and SEC winning potential are going to be realized not this next season, but 2015. Defense still young. Many of these recent recruits will probably get playing time on D this year. IMO, it takes defensive linemen at least 1 year (better 2 years) when they are 20 or 21 years old, to get their strength and techniques maximized.

    Coaching staff changes are a head coach's main goal/dilemma to try to get the right coach in the right place to help the team win. I miss Kingsbury. Sumlin let Mckinney (sp?) call plays when Kingsbury left and in hindsight, many think Mckinney wasn't the right choice. Time will tell how it works out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1st and goal View Post
    I think A&M's defense and SEC winning potential are going to be realized not this next season, but 2015. Defense still young. Many of these recent recruits will probably get playing time on D this year. IMO, it takes defensive linemen at least 1 year (better 2 years) when they are 20 or 21 years old, to get their strength and techniques maximized.

    Coaching staff changes are a head coach's main goal/dilemma to try to get the right coach in the right place to help the team win. I miss Kingsbury. Sumlin let Mckinney (sp?) call plays when Kingsbury left and in hindsight, many think Mckinney wasn't the right choice. Time will tell how it works out.
    Secondary is going to be their biggest weakness in 2015 by looking at depth chart and recruiting.

    I also see guys like Golden, Claiborne, and Hall going pro after that year as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Tiger View Post
    Secondary is going to be their biggest weakness in 2015 by looking at depth chart and recruiting.

    I also see guys like Golden, Claiborne, and Hall going pro after that year as well.
    We got some good DB's. Leaving early is a problem when you get such good players. All the top teams have to deal with that.
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