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Surprised no one has mentioned this yet. The UIL changed the wording on their website (as of October 11) from Classes 5A and 2A must have 200 schools to Class 5A to Class3A must have 200 schools. Looks that Class 4A will grow this year one way or another.
Will be very interesting to see what the cutoff numbers are for 4A.
I still see 2A to 5A. Am I looking at the wrong thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by arges
Could we slip under the wire one more time? Curious to see if the:
- bribes we pay to the UIL
- kids we bus to Cooper that day
- kids we tell to stay home that day
works to keep us under the limit (that of course only we have prior knowledge of the cut off number so we'll know how many kids to hide) to stay 4A... :taunt:
I've been thinking of 480-1180 for a long time. Could be a little higher on both ends IMHO.
I posted it wrong. Was 2A to 5A.
Yoe_09, do u know what are Yoe's numbers this year.
With all the new 5A/6A sized schools coming on line ive herd that the Top of 4A will be close to 1200. Which will move it up at the bottom as well. If schools like Llano have not grown much, they could be a Big 3A School in the next alignment.Quote:
Originally Posted by arges
Also 5A will be D1 and D2 split districts like 4A and down.
Going to be interesting.
If the numbers part I heard was right, then AW, LH, and some others will spend a few more years in 4A. LH is sitting at around 1130.
The jump to 5A will be eased for those making it by the split divisions as well.
That would be fine with me--there are no small 5A schools anywhere close to us... suspect we would be doing some serious traveling. Besides--beating Brownwood and Stephenville never gets old :smoker: ...Quote:
Originally Posted by LHPfactory
I am still seeing 2A to 5A though on mine when I view it. Were you saying it was 2A to 5A and now 3A to 5A?Quote:
Originally Posted by arges
The latest numbers I had (which was a reliable source) was 490. It was been a week or two but that number is not going to change much. It was 479 last go around and that was with around a 14-15 increase. If it goes up that amount again, Cameron will stay down. If it stays there or goes down Cameron will go up.Quote:
Originally Posted by arges
I must have hit 3A by mistake instead of 2A to 5A in original post which is what I got from the UIL website. Dang keyboard gremlins (or bad keyboard skills.)
When was attendance taken?
Enjoy your trips to Waco and Temple next year.....Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
Not me. My youngest graduated last year and I've done the sideline doctor thing at every Wylie game since 2004 (maybe missed 5 games in that entire time). Now that I drive 400+ miles per week for work I won't be going on many long road trips Friday nights. BWD or Ville--no problem, Denison or Argyle or Wimberly or ???--nope. Listening on the radio will have to work.
Remember non-football schools count towards the 200 mark
I know there are a few non football in the lower classes, are there very many in 3A and above?Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew328
Very few in 5A/6A maybe one or two total....Quote:
Originally Posted by wyliefan
There's at least 2 in 4A and maybe more if I'm leaving out some charter schools
Here is a rough estimate on the schools from last realignment:
2A: 204
3A: 221
4A: 189
5A: 256
6A: 248
"Conference AAAAAA should consist of a minimum of 220 schools and a maximum of 245 schools
participating in football; Conferences AA through AAAAA should consist of a number of schools such that the
enrollment ratio in grades 9-12 between the largest school and the smallest school is approximately 2.0. There
should be at least 200 schools each in Conferences AA and AAAAA. Conference A shall consist of all schools
that are not in Conferences AA-AAAAAA."
That was from the UIL last go around. 4A was at 189 unless I am missing something.
That might have been just football. I thought it was 1991. Did Lufkin Hudson and FW Fine Arts get counted in your number Yoe?
That was the basketball totals, which did include Hudson. Not sure about Fine Arts.Quote:
Originally Posted by arges
My thoughts are this. I would say most 5A/6A are growing or are either in areas that are adding new schools.
Would it make since to up the basement and the ceiling or do they want 5A to continue and grow? I would not think they would want to pull from 4A since it was smaller to begin with, but does that logistically makes sense. I cannot grasp that by just looking at these numbers.
You could lower the 5A basement and draw more 4A schools.
Say the divisions were split last go around. If it were 1600, you would have had 158 large schools and only 98 small schools...don't think so. At 1700, you would have had 140 large schools and 116 small schools. At 1750, you would have had 126 big schools and 132 small schools.
In a perfect world, the UIL would have 192 teams in both 5A and 4A, and have 16 - 6 teams districts in each division. I know this will not happen, but they need to get away from the 4 or 5 team districts. In my opinion, they need to institute a rule that all districts have at least 6 teams.
Based on what I've seen from Carl Padilla, everything will pretty much stay status quo.......everything will go up a touch.
Last realignment, the 5A cut would have been good around 1700-1750. He has it at 1780 for this time. He also has the top 4A number going up about 50 and the bottom going up about 10. That sounds good to me as Cameron is currently at 488 as of today.
Heard East Bernard may end up in Division I of Class 3A. They have a big freshman class