AP Football Poll 9/26/16

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09-26-2016, 01:10 PM
WOS87

AP Football Poll 9/26/16

Here is The Associated Press high school poll, with first-place votes in parentheses, records, points based on 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1, and the team's ranking in last week's poll:

Class 6A

School Total Points Prv
1. Allen (23) (4-0) 245 1
2. DeSoto (2) (4-0) 224 3
3. Euless Trinity (4-0) 167 5
4. Lake Travis (4-1) 164 4
5. Cibolo Steele (4-1) 137 8
6. Austin Westlake (4-1) 120 6
7. The Woodlands (4-0) 85 9
8. Galena Park North Shore (3-1) 61 10
9. Converse Judson (4-1) 58 2
10. San Angelo Central (4-0) 48 NR
Others receiving votes: 11, Cedar Hill 22. 12, Round Rock Cedar Ridge 21. 13, Katy 8. 14, Waco Midway 6. 16, Southlake Carroll 5. 17, San Benito 1. 17, Longview 1. 17, Beaumont West Brook 1. 17, Arlington Bowie 1.

Class 5A

School Total Points Prv
1. Cedar Park (12) (5-0) 229 1
2. Aledo (5) (4-0) 223 2
3. Denton Ryan (4) (5-0) 204 3
4. Manvel (4) (4-0) 194 4
5. Richmond Foster (5-0) 142 5
6. Waxahachie (5-0) 99 8
7. Lancaster (4-1) 91 7
8. Texarkana Texas (5-0) 70 9
9. College Station (5-0) 31 NR
10. Frisco Lone Star (3-1) 29 10
Others receiving votes: 11, Denton 16. 12, Grapevine 12. 13, Lubbock Cooper 8. 13, Dallas Highland Park 8. 15, Georgetown 4. 16, Canyon 3. 16, Dripping Springs 3. 16, Cleburne 3. 19, CC Calallen 2. 19, Port Arthur Memorial 2. 19, Port Neches-Groves 2.

Class 4A

School Total Points Prv
1. West Orange-Stark (16) (5-0) 238 1
2. Argyle (6) (4-0) 220 2
3. Carthage (3-0) 191 3
4. Waco La Vega (2) (5-0) 176 4
5. Cuero (1) (5-0) 139 5
6. China Spring (5-0) 135 6
7. Henderson (5-0) 82 8
8. Gilmer (4-1) 67 7
9. Geronimo Navarro (5-0) 39 10
10. Abilene Wylie (3-1) 36 9
Others receiving votes: 11, Van 18. 12, Celina 13. 13, Sweetwater 11. 14, El Campo 8. 15, Gladewater 1. 15, Godley 1.

Class 3A

School Total Points Prv
1. Brock (20) (5-0) 245 1
2. Newton (4) (5-0) 218 2
3. Franklin (1) (5-0) 198 3
4. Malakoff (4-0) 183 4
5. Sunnyvale (5-0) 137 5
6. White Oak (5-0) 107 7
7. Cameron Yoe (4-1) 101 6
8. Crockett (5-0) 47 10
9. Canadian (2-2) 37 9
10. Wall (3-1) 22 NR
Others receiving votes: 11, Big Sandy Harmony 14. 12, Cisco 13. 13, Hallettsville 12. 13, Sonora 12. 15, East Bernard 6. 16, Elysian Fields 4. 16, Mineola 4. 16, Rockdale 4. 16, George West 4. 20, La Marque 3. 21, New London West Rusk 2. 21, Gunter 2.

Class 2A

School Total Points Prv
1. Bremond (19) (5-0) 244 2
2. Iraan (1) (5-0) 207 3
3. Refugio (5) (3-1) 179 1
4. Mart (5-0) 177 5
5. Tenaha (5-0) 157 6
6. Lovelady (4-0) 118 7
7. Stratford (3-1) 83 9
8. Wellington (5-0) 77 10
9. Albany (4-1) 51 4
10. Price Carlisle (5-0) 25 NR
Others receiving votes: 11, Muenster 20. 12, Shiner 14. 13, Crawford 8. 14, Goldthwaite 6. 15, Mason 4. 16, Evadale 2. 16, Christoval 2. 18, Burton 1.
09-26-2016, 03:46 PM
Rabid Cougar

I don't like the mixed Division thing. If they want to combine their rankings, match them up in the playoffs. Take two from Division 1 district and two from the coinciding Division 2 District and let them have at it.
09-26-2016, 05:40 PM
10ForTheWin

Refugio should've stayed at number 1 in my opinion, that game could've gone either way

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09-26-2016, 06:21 PM
Dawgs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabid Cougar

I don't like the mixed Division thing. If they want to combine their rankings, match them up in the playoffs. Take two from Division 1 district and two from the coinciding Division 2 District and let them have at it.

I would like to see them not have any divisions. 32 districts, top 2 go to the playoffs, and have a battle royal. 1 true champ.
09-26-2016, 07:14 PM
Bosqueville

I think Wylie is overrated in this poll. I'm thinking 15-20 and just my opinion.
09-26-2016, 07:42 PM
hollywood

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosqueville

I think Wylie is overrated in this poll. I'm thinking 15-20 and just my opinion.

Friday Oct 7th will help determine that. :1popcorn:
09-26-2016, 07:48 PM
SintonFan_inAustin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawgs

I would like to see them not have any divisions. 32 districts, top 2 go to the playoffs, and have a battle royal. 1 true champ.

Baseball and basketball have 32 districts and top 4 go to the playoffs so the same amount that goes now with still be there so revenue shouldn't be an issue.
09-26-2016, 08:24 PM
Dawgs

Quote:

Originally Posted by SintonFan_inAustin

Baseball and basketball have 32 districts and top 4 go to the playoffs so the same amount that goes now with still be there so revenue shouldn't be an issue.

You would have to add another round of the playoffs, but yea that would work.
09-27-2016, 09:42 AM
slingshot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosqueville

I think Wylie is overrated in this poll. I'm thinking 15-20 and just my opinion.

Keep thinking that. This Wylie team is big, fast, deep, talented and is getting better every week. Will be a very tough out come playoff time.
09-27-2016, 02:03 PM
toddg

https://youtu.be/1B9x0pnUwh4
09-27-2016, 03:06 PM
PurplePop

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddg

https://youtu.be/1B9x0pnUwh4

Major flaw in his logic. There is a good chance Cedar Park (current AP 5A No. 1) will be in 5A-DII playoffs and Aledo (current AP 5A No. 2) will be in 5A-DI playoffs just like last year. So, based on his logic, they shouldn't be in same rankings because Aledo won't have to beat Cedar Park to be State Champ's. I agree with the AP's way.
09-27-2016, 03:21 PM
toddg

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurplePop

Major flaw in his logic. There is a good chance Cedar Park (current AP 5A No. 1) will be in 5A-DII playoffs and Aledo (current AP 5A No. 2) will be in 5A-DI playoffs just like last year. So, based on his logic, they shouldn't be in same rankings because Aledo won't have to beat Cedar Park to be State Champ's. I agree with the AP's way.

he was mainly talking about 4a and below, where d1 and d2 are definite, and different classifications from the get go. 5a and up is not.
09-27-2016, 04:10 PM
PurplePop

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddg

he was mainly talking about 4a and below, where d1 and d2 are definite, and different classifications from the get go. 5a and up is not.

Tepper said (I think) that Refugio shouldn't be in same 2A poll as Bremond and Iraan because they don't have to beat them to end up state champs. If Tepper thinks the AP is crazy for lumping all 4A's, 3A's, and 2A's together in one poll even though they can't meet in playoffs, than he must think he, himself, is crazy for doing the same thing with 5A and 6A. If the UIL is going to group a bunch of teams together as 4A teams, the pollsters ought to tell us who they think the best 4A team is just like 5A and 6A. Otherwise, a team like WOS, which is probably the best 4A team in the state, never gets that recognition. I've beat this one to death enough.
09-27-2016, 04:28 PM
toddg

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurplePop

Tepper said (I think) that Refugio shouldn't be in same 2A poll as Bremond and Iraan because they don't have to beat them to end up state champs. If Tepper thinks the AP is crazy for lumping all 4A's, 3A's, and 2A's together in one poll even though they can't meet in playoffs, than he must think he, himself, is crazy for doing the same thing with 5A and 6A. If the UIL is going to group a bunch of teams together as 4A teams, the pollsters ought to tell us who they think the best 4A team is just like 5A and 6A. Otherwise, a team like WOS, which is probably the best 4A team in the state, never gets that recognition. I've beat this one to death enough.

LOL! when winning 4a d2 just isnt enough! WOS gets plenty of recognition...btw Aledo has the smallest enrollment in their district, thus ensuring they will be d2, there is a slight chance of CP going d2
09-27-2016, 05:58 PM
PurplePop

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddg

LOL! when winning 4a d2 just isnt enough! WOS gets plenty of recognition...btw Aledo has the smallest enrollment in their district, thus ensuring they will be d2, there is a slight chance of CP going d2

Ok, if you insist. I'll keep this going. If Aledo and CP go into playoffs ranked 1, 2 and both end up D2 and one wins it all, they have legitimate bragging rights as the best 5A school in the state. If you rank 4A by separate divisions, no way of anyone claiming best 4A in Texas bragging rights. It's all just stupid polls. Why water down the fun right out of 'em?
09-27-2016, 06:26 PM
PurplePop

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddg

LOL! when winning 4a d2 just isnt enough! WOS gets plenty of recognition...btw Aledo has the smallest enrollment in their district, thus ensuring they will be d2, there is a slight chance of CP going d2

Any banter is welcome, BTW. I don't make varsity for another 150 or so posts.
09-27-2016, 06:33 PM
Weebe

The difference in 4a D1 and 4a D2 is no different that the difference between 5a and 2a.

There is no rational reason to group them together under the class 4a umbrella or the polls.
09-27-2016, 06:43 PM
SaltySixes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weebe

The difference in 4a D1 and 4a D2 is no different that the difference between 5a and 2a.

There is no rational reason to group them together under the class 4a umbrella or the polls.

I agree, or just make it a top 25 like college
09-27-2016, 07:08 PM
toddg

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurplePop

Ok, if you insist. I'll keep this going. If Aledo and CP go into playoffs ranked 1, 2 and both end up D2 and one wins it all, they have legitimate bragging rights as the best 5A school in the state. If you rank 4A by separate divisions, no way of anyone claiming best 4A in Texas bragging rights. It's all just stupid polls. Why water down the fun right out of 'em?

I understand where you're coming from..and I agree, maybe they should just give every classification its own #, take the division part out?
09-27-2016, 07:08 PM
speedbump

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaltySixes

I agree, or just make it a top 25 like college

I suppose you mean a top 25 in D1 and top 25 in D2.