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Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 07:49 PM
Brownwood broadcast say Wylie is up 7-0 in the first quarter but I sure would like to hear more about this game!!!

BwdLion73
10-30-2009, 07:51 PM
Me too....whats happening?

blowfish
10-30-2009, 07:55 PM
http://www.102thebear.com/

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by blowfish
http://www.102thebear.com/

listening to the brownwood game, cant listen to both

WHS02
10-30-2009, 07:56 PM
Wylie took the first play of scrimmage on a 51 yard run for a touchdown!!!

blowfish
10-30-2009, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Looking4number8
listening to the brownwood game, cant listen to both

I would do the updates but I am so hopped up on pains pills it has taken me ten minutes to type this.

BwdLion73
10-30-2009, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by blowfish
I would do the updates but I am so hopped up on pains pills it has taken me ten minutes to type this.

:eek:

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by blowfish
I would do the updates but I am so hopped up on pains pills it has taken me ten minutes to type this.

At least you are having fun... lol

Wylie 14, Graham 0, thats all I know

bowleghorses
10-30-2009, 08:46 PM
no update?

GSteer
10-30-2009, 08:51 PM
NM

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 08:54 PM
I'm confused, what is the score?

Technoredneck
10-30-2009, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by GSteer
NM

So is it 7-0 or 14-0

BwdLion73
10-30-2009, 09:14 PM
The last I heard was 7-0

Sweetwater Red
10-30-2009, 09:16 PM
7-0 Wylie. Wylie also leading 4-1 in turnovers.

Sweetwater Red
10-30-2009, 09:21 PM
Wylie up 10-0 with four minutes left in 3rd.

BwdLion73
10-30-2009, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Wylie up 10-0 with four minutes left in 3rd.

Thanks

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:26 PM
I gave up and since our game is over for the most part so I am gonna try to listen to this game, sounds like a great one!

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:28 PM
McCoy to Higgins on 4th down for a 16 yard TD but missed XP

10-6 Wylie

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:33 PM
Wylie Fumbles, (5th time) Graham ball

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:35 PM
McCoy to Higgins is MONEY, Graham 1st and goal at the 6

TD.............. holy crap,

Graham 13
Wylie 10

just a few seconds left in the 3rd

Technoredneck
10-30-2009, 09:38 PM
Snyder 35 Breck 0 final

BwdLion73
10-30-2009, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Looking4number8
McCoy to Higgins is MONEY, Graham 1st and goal at the 6

TD.............. holy crap,

Graham 13
Wylie 10

just a few seconds left in the 3rd

:eek:

DU_stud04
10-30-2009, 09:41 PM
wylie throws an int! wow, 6 turnovers!

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by DU_stud04
wylie throws an int! wow, 6 turnovers!
missed that one, listening to the Bwd game... dang it

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:43 PM
Wylie called for fask mask, Graham 1st down deep in Wylie territory

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:46 PM
Wylie fumbles at the 9 but refs say the carrier was down, 1st and goal

, now 2nd and goal at the 1

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:48 PM
McCoy carries and fumbles, again refs say ball was down,

3rd and goal from the 5... be he kicks the FG if they dont score

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:48 PM
Are you kidding me, they are going for it

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:51 PM
I thought that McCoy learned last week..... TAKE THE FREAKING POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Graham turns it over on downs, Wylies ball at their own 3

DU_stud04
10-30-2009, 09:54 PM
int! 7 turnovers!!!!!!

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by DU_stud04
int! 7 turnovers!!!!!!


holy crap... wish they would have given us the ball 7 times

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:57 PM
but according to the Wylie announcers, Graham is hitting hard and knocking the ball out and just made an incredible interception

DU_stud04
10-30-2009, 09:57 PM
3-out graham. will wylie score or make it 8 turnovers for the night?

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by DU_stud04
3-out graham. will wylie score or make it 8 turnovers for the night?

4th and 2, graham goes for it.. does not make it. TAKE THE FREAKING POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wylie ball with a couple of minute left, down by 6.... pass to the 30

Sweetwater Red
10-30-2009, 09:59 PM
Hey juggs. Check your text messages when you get a chance.

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 10:01 PM
Wylie first down at the Graham 47 and driving

bwdaggie
10-30-2009, 10:03 PM
time?

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by bwdaggie
time?


They have not said, but not much...

3rd and 26 for Wylie

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 10:05 PM
4th and 26, still not saying what time is left, just griping a little about the refs

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 10:06 PM
Sack, Graham ball and Wylie QB hurt, fans screaming horse collar at the officials...

Still dont know how much time is left

bwdaggie
10-30-2009, 10:08 PM
wow!!! :eek: :eek:

BwdLion73
10-30-2009, 10:08 PM
:eek:

DU_stud04
10-30-2009, 10:09 PM
1:46 left in the game

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 10:14 PM
McCoy sacked on 3rd down, gonna have to punt. Wylie will get the ball back but without starting QB... knew I should have went to this game

DDBooger
10-30-2009, 10:15 PM
This will be a huge upset

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 10:16 PM
sack on 1st down
out of bounds on 2nd down... 3rd and 15 with 58 seconds

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 10:16 PM
3rd down incomplete but personal foul called on Graham, 1st down

bwdaggie
10-30-2009, 10:19 PM
field position?

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by bwdaggie
field position?


about mid field, Wylie kicker can kick it from 50 so they need 20 or 25 yards to be in range

DU_stud04
10-30-2009, 10:20 PM
interception.... that should be the ball game. wow....8 turnovers.

Who-dun-it!!?
10-30-2009, 10:21 PM
Thanks for the updates, keep em coming!

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by DU_stud04
interception.... that should be the ball game. wow....8 turnovers.

I must have game delay, read it before I heard it

Congrats Graham... wow what a game

bwdaggie
10-30-2009, 10:23 PM
crazy!! thanks for the updates L4#8!

Who-dun-it!!?
10-30-2009, 10:26 PM
13-10 Graham?

No Way?!!

Congrats Steers!!

bwdaggie
10-30-2009, 10:32 PM
this is a wild district!!!!

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 10:42 PM
Has anybody said "WOW" yet????

Congrats Graham

SintonPirateFan
10-30-2009, 10:43 PM
awesome job Graham, way to get me at least ONE poll prediction right!!

BwdLion73
10-30-2009, 10:44 PM
"WOW"

DaHop72
10-30-2009, 10:46 PM
Congrats Graham Steers!!!

wyliefan
10-30-2009, 10:54 PM
Not trying to sound like a a bad loser, but wylie cound not beat graham and the refs tonite. Graham had three calls all night, two on the final drive on defense. Not one holding call and at least 7 that I remeber against Wylie, all after a long run or pass.

Good game by Graham, but anytime you get 8 turnovers you should not lose. Wylies defense kept them in this game all night.


The QB for Wylie hopefully will be ok for the playoffs. Got taken down by a horsecollar right in front of the ref (no call). Overheard that he mihgt be able to play next week, if not maybe in two weeks.


Congratulatins to Graham, good luck the rest of the season.

strosfan
10-30-2009, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by wyliefan
Not trying to sound like a a bad loser, but wylie cound not beat graham and the refs tonite. Graham had three calls all night, two on the final drive on defense. Not one holding call and at least 7 that I remeber against Wylie, all after a long run or pass.

Good game by Graham, but anytime you get 8 turnovers you should not lose. Wylies defense kept them in this game all night.


The QB for Wylie hopefully will be ok for the playoffs. Got taken down by a horsecollar right in front of the ref (no call). Overheard that he mihgt be able to play next week, if not maybe in two weeks.


Congratulatins to Graham, good luck the rest of the season.

Did the refs cause the turnovers?

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by wyliefan
Not trying to sound like a a bad loser, but wylie cound not beat graham and the refs tonite. Graham had three calls all night, two on the final drive on defense. Not one holding call and at least 7 that I remeber against Wylie, all after a long run or pass.

Good game by Graham, but anytime you get 8 turnovers you should not lose. Wylies defense kept them in this game all night.


The QB for Wylie hopefully will be ok for the playoffs. Got taken down by a horsecollar right in front of the ref (no call). Overheard that he mihgt be able to play next week, if not maybe in two weeks.


Congratulatins to Graham, good luck the rest of the season.

Gotta say a few things about these comments, the refs ate our lunch last year against Wylie and you guys say all we did was make excuses, suck it up..

Refs seemed to suck in the Bwd/Graham game too (in Grahams favor) but we did not had them the ball 8 times so we were able to pull out the win.


Anyways, Wylie has a great team and great fans and will bounce back from this loss, but I would put money on you guys not getting any sympathy about the ref thing

Z-RO
10-30-2009, 11:10 PM
I was with a friend of mine at this game and let me state a few observations.

1: Wylie fans (well at least a lot of them) are class'less - their own kid was on the ground and they were to busy running their mouth at the ref instead of showing some respect and at least hush up and have some respect for the kid and his parents. Instead they used this time to yell at the officials...stay classy

2: that particular play was not a horse collar.

3: Graham's defense played good tonight except for the first play of the game where the kid ran for a long TD

4: On that long play the kid stepped out of bounds but the reffs did not call that.

5: Graham needs a FG kicker...bad

6: Yes Wylie had a ton of turnovers, but who caused them?

Tromboneking
10-30-2009, 11:12 PM
I thought the refs were awful on both sides tonight. They didn't call holding...on both sides...the hit on the receiver on the sidelines in the fourth was not a dirty play. Pass was high, defensive back hit him...I have seen the exact same play 1000 times in college and pro....BAD REFS on both teams.

I do want to point out something that I found disturbing. When Wylie's QB went down...in obvious major pain...there were a lot of Wylie fans that were yelling at the refs instead of worrying about the status of the injury. Seemed kind of classless if you ask me. That is so unlike Wylie and thier fans. I truly hope that kid is ok...he took a wicked tackle..it was a clean tackle though....the body just doesn't bend that way.

Halftime was awesome though...both the Wylie and Graham bands combined and played Thriller...260+kids on the field...sounded like a college band!

Congrats to the Steers, and good luck to the Bulldogs! Speedy recovery to the Wylie QB!

Z-RO
10-30-2009, 11:13 PM
I have to agree the halftime show was pretty cool

Scattershot Bob
10-30-2009, 11:16 PM
The half time show was a lot of fun to play. I truly hope Wylie's QB is alright. Man that kid got bent in a strange direction.

Looking4number8
10-30-2009, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Tromboneking


I do want to point out something that I found disturbing. When Wylie's QB went down...in obvious major pain...there were a lot of Wylie fans that were yelling at the refs instead of worrying about the status of the injury. Seemed kind of classless if you ask me. That is so unlike Wylie and thier fans. I truly hope that kid is ok...he took a wicked tackle..it was a clean tackle though....the body just doesn't bend that way.



You could hear those guys on the web cast. Radio guys got quite and listened to them to and make it more obvious on the we cast. Kind of sounded like the radio guys did not quite know what to do with those guys screaming, cant say that I blame them. You cant yell from the broadcast both (shut the hell up) but I think they wanted to

trusteer/trublu
10-30-2009, 11:39 PM
Heck of a game tonight...hard hitting on both sides...Wylie had a ton of turnovers but the Steers were causing them.....great game to watch,,,,,good luck to both in playoffs....:inlove: :inlove: :inlove:

STANG RED
10-31-2009, 12:01 AM
I really like the Wylie program, but I dont even want to hear Wylie folks complain about calls going against them. I've seen waaaaaaay too many BS calls go in Wylie's favor in the past.:hand: Now maybe you know how it feels. :p

ccmom
10-31-2009, 12:15 AM
Heading home and can't read through all this now....but wanted to congratulate the Steers again and wish them luck down the road. Nice to meet a couple of you at the half, too.

ccmom
10-31-2009, 12:20 AM
Ok...still on the road but I did read a little and want to say.....I, too was appauled by the handful of Wylie fans who were yelling at refs while Matt was down on the field and I DID tell them to hush it up. That certainly is NOT how this program should be reprsented by it's fans. I pray Matt will be ok.

rangerjoe33
10-31-2009, 12:25 AM
Unless I am mistaken the horse collar rule is not called at the high school level, even if it was a horse collar tackle.

hollywood
10-31-2009, 12:27 AM
Sorry to hear about Preston. Hope he's OK and recovers soon. Prayers will be sent from Stephenville. Congrats to Graham on the win.

ccmom
10-31-2009, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by strosfan
Did the refs cause the turnovers? Nope.....Congrats again Steers!

Z-RO
10-31-2009, 12:32 AM
Just in case anybody wants to cry and say it was a horse collar here is the play in question

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/zrozrozro/10310900072.jpg

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/zrozrozro/10310900081.jpg

There was a real bad shot of his knee I could have taken but I have more morals than that...it looked BAD when it happend...hope he is ok

LE Dad
10-31-2009, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by rangerjoe33
Unless I am mistaken the horse collar rule is not called at the high school level, even if it was a horse collar tackle. You are mistaken. A true horse collar (grasping inside the shoulder pads and using to make a tackle) is being called.

Who-dun-it!!?
10-31-2009, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Z-RO
Just in case anybody wants to cry and say it was a horse collar here is the play in question

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/zrozrozro/10310900072.jpg

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/zrozrozro/10310900081.jpg

There was a real bad shot of his knee I could have taken but I have more morals than that...it looked BAD when it happend...hope he is ok

looks clean to me. Very unfortunate, but not dirty. But with only the pics to go by all I can do is join the masses who pray for his speedy recovery. Good luck to him.

michaelp23
10-31-2009, 12:37 AM
Dear Graham,

You're Welcome.

Sincerely,

The Wylie Offense

:doh:



I've seen A LOT of high school football, and I've never seen a team give up 8 turnovers. It's like the ball had vaseline on it or something. On a positive note, the Wylie defense played an incredible game. To give up only 13 points after your offense coughs it up that many times is impressive to say the least.

Congrats Graham. You are the district champs (forget the tie since you beat us).

Who-dun-it!!?
10-31-2009, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by michaelp23
Dear Graham,

You're Welcome.

Sincerely,

The Wylie Offense

:doh:



I've seen A LOT of high school football, and I've never seen a team give up 8 turnovers. It's like the ball had vaseline on it or something. On a positive note, the Wylie defense played an incredible game. To give up only 13 points after your offense coughs it up that many times is impressive to say the least.

Congrats Graham. You are the district champs (forget the tie since you beat us).

Classy Post.:clap:

SintonFan
10-31-2009, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by michaelp23
Dear Graham,

You're Welcome.

Sincerely,

The Wylie Offense

:doh:


That is messed up.:tisk:

Z-RO
10-31-2009, 12:43 AM
How many points does leave out there not having a successful kicker? 1 missed EP, 1 missed FG, and a few times within the Wylie 10.

Wylie actully lucked out on a Graham 2nd and goal at the Wylie one. The Graham RB was stopped at the goalline with his foward progress had stopped. Well the officials did not blow the wistle and the ball was stripped. Graham recovers but on their 3 yard line making it 3rd and goal on the 3. Sure Wylie could have stopped them (which they did) but 3rd and 3 on your 3 is different then 3rd and 1 on the goalline.

Not trying to knock Wylie, just making sure everybody knows that the same shoe they are griping about fits on the other foot as well.

WylieBulldog87
10-31-2009, 12:45 AM
Ok here is my take on the game. I am a bulldog fan so it may seem a little bias. I am from Dallas, so I am trying to be objective here.
1. Don't know total yardage for both teams, but Wylie seemed to run up the field on them until they turned it over. They didn't punt 1x. They had 11 possessions in the game 8 turnovers, 1 turnover on downs, a touchdown on the first play of the game and a field goal. Wow, no punts at all.
2. Graham did have a tough defense. They were hitting hard and they did cause those turnovers. Their defense was in the backfield on almost every play. QB had no time to pass the ball.
3. Wylie's o-line was horrible. They didn't look anything like a state playoff team tonight. They couldn't run or pass. Their 51 yard touchdown run was on the hidden ball trick...Graham never new what hit them. They ran that on the first play of the game.
4. Wylie's Defense is tough. Graham had a 1st and goal at the 1 yard line and couldn't score. They missed a field goal.
5. Case McCoy, didn't really impress me at all. He had 2 nice pass plays on their first scoring drive, but both were spectacular catches....
6. Wylie gave McCoy way to much time to pass. They didn't put hardly any pressure on him and if they did, he avoided first rusher and was able to buy time for reciever to get open....Still Wylie needs to get more pressure on the qb.

I haven't seen a Wylie game this season. I have only been keeping up with them from 3ADL and news articles from web. Everything I am hearing had me believe that they were a dominant 3a football team. After tonights performance, I don't think they would go far in the playoffs and its not just the turnovers. Their offense couldn't really find any consistency. O-line is horrible.

I talked to one of Wylie's doctors after game and they mentioned qb that got hurt will miss about 2 weeks with MCL sprain. At least that is early prognosis.

I thought Graham was ok. Don't really think they are a dominating team either. They did deserve to win today. No doubt about it. Before the game started, I mentioned to my friend that Wylie doesn't seem emotional enough for this game tonight. I didn't feel like they had the energy or desire tonight and that was evident of all the turnover.

BEAST
10-31-2009, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by michaelp23
Dear Graham,

You're Welcome.

Sincerely,

The Wylie Offense

:doh:



I've seen A LOT of high school football, and I've never seen a team give up 8 turnovers. It's like the ball had vaseline on it or something. On a positive note, the Wylie defense played an incredible game. To give up only 13 points after your offense coughs it up that many times is impressive to say the least.

Congrats Graham. You are the district champs
(forget the tie since you beat us).

You may want to forget the tie but wait a damn minute. We beat Graham. This time next week it'll be a three way tie. You can cry sour grapes all you want. Does it not matter that Brownwood used 4 different Qbs against yall before finding Vance. Hell we gave yall the ball around our 20 3 times in a roll. When we beat Snyder, a peice of that district title is ours.

POOR LOSERS!!




BEAST

Z-RO
10-31-2009, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by WylieBulldog87
Ok here is my take on the game. I am a bulldog fan so it may seem a little bias. I am from Dallas, so I am trying to be objective here.
1. Don't know total yardage for both teams, but Wylie seemed to run up the field on them until they turned it over. They didn't punt 1x. They had 11 possessions in the game 8 turnovers, 1 turnover on downs, a touchdown on the first play of the game and a field goal. Wow, no punts at all.
2. Graham did have a tough defense. They were hitting hard and they did cause those turnovers. Their defense was in the backfield on almost every play. QB had no time to pass the ball.
3. Wylie's o-line was horrible. They didn't look anything like a state playoff team tonight. They couldn't run or pass. Their 51 yard touchdown run was on the hidden ball trick...Graham never new what hit them. They ran that on the first play of the game.
4. Wylie's Defense is tough. Graham had a 1st and goal at the 1 yard line and couldn't score. They missed a field goal.
5. Case McCoy, didn't really impress me at all. He had 2 nice pass plays on their first scoring drive, but both were spectacular catches....
6. Wylie gave McCoy way to much time to pass. They didn't put hardly any pressure on him and if they did, he avoided first rusher and was able to buy time for reciever to get open....Still Wylie needs to get more pressure on the qb.

I haven't seen a Wylie game this season. I have only been keeping up with them from 3ADL and news articles from web. Everything I am hearing had me believe that they were a dominant 3a football team. After tonights performance, I don't think they would go far in the playoffs and its not just the turnovers. Their offense couldn't really find any consistency. O-line is horrible.

I talked to one of Wylie's doctors after game and they mentioned qb that got hurt will miss about 2 weeks with MCL sprain. At least that is early prognosis.

I thought Graham was ok. Don't really think they are a dominating team either. They did deserve to win today. No doubt about it. Before the game started, I mentioned to my friend that Wylie doesn't seem emotional enough for this game tonight. I didn't feel like they had the energy or desire tonight and that was evident of all the turnover.

Good observation, cant really complain about it too much...especially if that was supposed to be biased.

Who-dun-it!!?
10-31-2009, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by BEAST
You may want to forget the tie but wait a damn minute. We beat Graham. This time next week it'll be a three way tie. You can cry sour grapes all you want. Does it not matter that Brownwood used 4 different Qbs against yall before finding Vance. Hell we gave yall the ball around our 20 3 times in a roll. When we beat Snyder, a peice of that district title is ours.

POOR LOSERS!!




BEAST

Cart before the horse doesn't quite say it:rolleyes:

Z-RO
10-31-2009, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by BEAST
You may want to forget the tie but wait a damn minute. We beat Graham. This time next week it'll be a three way tie. You can cry sour grapes all you want. Does it not matter that Brownwood used 4 different Qbs against yall before finding Vance. Hell we gave yall the ball around our 20 3 times in a roll. When we beat Snyder, a peice of that district title is ours.

POOR LOSERS!!




BEAST

True (if yall beat Snyder), but if they are going by points....just saying.

DParker
10-31-2009, 12:53 AM
Congrats to the Steers, all seven 2008 losses avenged (Clyde, Burkburnett, Glen Rose, Bridgeport, Snyder, Sweetwater, Abilene Wylie).
Good luck to the Bulldogs in the D-1 playoffs. You will represent our district well.
The UIL uses NCAA rules with a few exceptions (timing, goal post width, uniforms, extra period administration, etc.) The “horse-collar tackle” rule was defined and effective for the 2008 season and was used in UIL last year. Here is the rule: “All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside back collar of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling the ball carrier down. This does not apply to a ball carrier, including a potential passer, who is inside the tackle box."
Very important, No horse collar in the tackle box.

BEAST
10-31-2009, 12:54 AM
Points comes into play for tie breakers to make the playoffs. If it's a 3 way tie for 1st, each are co-champs.



BEAST

BEAST
10-31-2009, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Who-dun-it!!?
Cart before the horse doesn't quite say it:rolleyes:

Yall are coming to our HOUSE this time. We are hitting all cylinders now. We Ready!!!!




BEAST

Z-RO
10-31-2009, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by BEAST
Points comes into play for tie breakers to make the playoffs. If it's a 3 way tie for 1st, each are co-champs.



BEAST

So that would be

Wylie D1

Graham #1 Seed D2
Brownwood #2 Seed D2

grahampaw
10-31-2009, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by DParker
Congrats to the Steers, all seven 2008 losses avenged (Clyde, Burkburnett, Glen Rose, Bridgeport, Snyder, Sweetwater, Abilene Wylie).
Good luck to the Bulldogs in the D-1 playoffs. You will represent our district well.
The UIL uses NCAA rules with a few exceptions (timing, goal post width, uniforms, extra period administration, etc.) The “horse-collar tackle” rule was defined and effective for the 2008 season and was used in UIL last year. Here is the rule: “All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside back collar of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling the ball carrier down. This does not apply to a ball carrier, including a potential passer, who is inside the tackle box."
Very important, No horse collar in the tackle box. That was not a Horse collar any way but good point, he was clearly in the tackle box as long as he hasnt crossed the neutral zone.I watched the replay on KFDX and you could clearly see it was a good tackle.I do hope for the best for the young man and for Wylie.I would love to see yall win D-1.

garciap77
10-31-2009, 01:09 AM
Congrats Graham! It's was a close hard fought game. I was hoping we could finally win one at Graham, but it just did not happened. Good luck with the rest of the season. We have a lot of work ahead of us.

Nice G&M I will post pictures soon. Great burgers at the Burgers & Billiards!:clap: :clap: :clap:




Bucket was a nice lady and she did not beat anyone up like RWB was saying! She was cool!:D





;)

Rocket
10-31-2009, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by Z-RO
So that would be

Wylie D1

Graham #1 Seed D2
Brownwood #2 Seed D2

We need a ruling by somebody that knows what's going on for sure. Not a Zero.

squid
10-31-2009, 01:22 AM
We cant blame the refs folks. The offense was TOTALLY out of synch tonight, evidenced by 8 turnovers. But attribute that to Graham's D. They were ripping at the RBs and WRs every down, our usually surehanded guys werent tonight. Graham also had a good blitz package in, pressure from the LBs was coming right up the middle. Preston felt pressure tonight like he hadnt all season, way more than Snyder did.

As for our foul mouthed 'fans' that chose to cuss the refs while Preston was down, shame on you. You all sounded like trash. And to the guy that yelled 'Hey McCoy, the Longhorns suck!' during that same period in the game......you are an imbecile. Waaaaay too much chlorine in your gene pool. I've followed Wylie football for over 20 years and I've always been so proud of how our fans conducted themselves. Tonight I'm not so proud.

Z-RO
10-31-2009, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Rocket
We need a ruling by somebody that knows what's going on for sure. Not a Zero.

I'm pretty sure it goes by the points, why do you think Shipley tried to throw deep on the last play against Graham last week trying to score? He knew that this situation could occur.

Graham beats Wylie +3
Graham loses to B-wood -1

Brownwood beats Graham +1
Loses to Wylie -20

It could be overall points given up and if that is the case

Graham 66
Brownwood 75

grahampaw
10-31-2009, 01:27 AM
Rocket, If you guys lose to Snyder your out,If you win, because of your lopsided loss to Wylie you will take the third place spot because you will have the least positive points.That will put you guys playing Monahans in round 2.Someone correct me if I am wrong.And if yall do play Monahans in round 2, I will say it now Brownwood wins by 14.

RedWhiteBlue
10-31-2009, 01:41 AM
Good luck in the playoffs, DAWGS!! And I so hope the best for your awesome QB...
As for your playoff, predictions- went over it about 90 times tonight. Brownwood you must beat Snyder next week or you are done and yes, it does come down to points- thats why Bad Bob did go deep late...:rolleyes:
Us? We will be in Breckenridge- so update me on how all that goes for ya!! Holla!!!
GO STEERS GO!! :clap: :kiss: :cheerl:

PS... 1 & 2 are looking at Perryton, Dalhart or Borger. Wylie is playing Estacado (sp?):D

Rocket
10-31-2009, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by grahampaw
Rocket, If you guys lose to Snyder your out,If you win, because of your lopsided loss to Wylie you will take the third place spot because you will have the least positive points.That will put you guys playing Monahans in round 2.Someone correct me if I am wrong.And if yall do play Monahans in round 2, I will say it now Brownwood wins by 14.

I was hoping that heads up would take precedent in all applicable situations. We aren't going on rank no more after the co-champions is decided. we are going for rankings in Divisions. Sucks that we beat Graham and have to be behind them in our Division if that is true, but at this point, I just want to watch some playoff football. To be the best you must beat the best. Bring on Monahans.

Inmateboss
10-31-2009, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by Rocket
I was hoping that heads up would take precedent in all applicable situations. We aren't going on rank no more after the co-champions is decided. we are going for rankings in Divisions. Sucks that we beat Graham and have to be behind them in our Division if that is true, but at this point, I just want to watch some playoff football. To be the best you must beat the best. Bring on Monahans.

The whole time I was growing up we had to play the LOBOS. Hated them then, and old habits die hard. I will be cheering you guys on all the way! Their tough as nails but ya'll have what it takes to get the job done. Best of luck, and take no Prisoners.

Inmateboss
10-31-2009, 02:35 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by michaelp23
[B]Dear Graham,

You're Welcome.

Sincerely,

The Wylie Offense

:doh:



I've seen A LOT of high school football, and I've never seen a team give up 8 turnovers. It's like the ball had vaseline on it or something. On a positive note, the Wylie defense played an incredible game. To give up only 13 points after your offense coughs it up that many times is impressive to say the least.


The Wylie Defense was, is and will continue to be AWESOME. The Offense tonight saw just a bit of what ya'll have shown everybody all season. It's hell to have the ball time and time again and not put any points on the board. Many many prayers go out to ya'lls QB, and God Bless on the rest of your Season>

Pendragon13
10-31-2009, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by WylieBulldog87
Ok here is my take on the game. I am a bulldog fan so it may seem a little bias. I am from Dallas, so I am trying to be objective here.
1. Don't know total yardage for both teams, but Wylie seemed to run up the field on them until they turned it over. They didn't punt 1x. They had 11 possessions in the game 8 turnovers, 1 turnover on downs, a touchdown on the first play of the game and a field goal. Wow, no punts at all.
2. Graham did have a tough defense. They were hitting hard and they did cause those turnovers. Their defense was in the backfield on almost every play. QB had no time to pass the ball.
3. Wylie's o-line was horrible. They didn't look anything like a state playoff team tonight. They couldn't run or pass. Their 51 yard touchdown run was on the hidden ball trick...Graham never new what hit them. They ran that on the first play of the game.
4. Wylie's Defense is tough. Graham had a 1st and goal at the 1 yard line and couldn't score. They missed a field goal.
5. Case McCoy, didn't really impress me at all. He had 2 nice pass plays on their first scoring drive, but both were spectacular catches....
6. Wylie gave McCoy way to much time to pass. They didn't put hardly any pressure on him and if they did, he avoided first rusher and was able to buy time for reciever to get open....Still Wylie needs to get more pressure on the qb.

I haven't seen a Wylie game this season. I have only been keeping up with them from 3ADL and news articles from web. Everything I am hearing had me believe that they were a dominant 3a football team. After tonights performance, I don't think they would go far in the playoffs and its not just the turnovers. Their offense couldn't really find any consistency. O-line is horrible.

I talked to one of Wylie's doctors after game and they mentioned qb that got hurt will miss about 2 weeks with MCL sprain. At least that is early prognosis.

I thought Graham was ok. Don't really think they are a dominating team either. They did deserve to win today. No doubt about it. Before the game started, I mentioned to my friend that Wylie doesn't seem emotional enough for this game tonight. I didn't feel like they had the energy or desire tonight and that was evident of all the turnover.
1. You're right, take away the two big spectacular circus catches and Wylie probably has more yards through the air and ground...but it doesn't matter when you can't hang on to the ball.
2. Yes, Graham obviously watched film from the Snyder game and did a good job getting in the backfield and pressuring Preston...but still we marched the ball down the field until the point where we handed it back to them every single time.
3. I would give more credit to Grahams defense tonight making the O-line look bad on certain plays...I'm sure if you watched game film you would grade them better than horrible. They're all first year starters (senior o-line last year) and have been doing a good job all year.
4. Yes they are..nobody can deny that. Add Grahams 13 points tonight and that makes a grand total of 34 points scored on our first team defense for the YEAR with one game left to go. You can't ask any more than that..especially considering the teams we've played this year.
5. Maybe he didn't look like a top D1 prospect tonight, but a lot of that was due to the Bulldog defense. His receivers did go above and beyond to catch a few balls that he probably shouldn't have thrown....but we only managed to intercept one of them, so he was doing something right.
6. Wylie is a controlled defense with very few blitzes in the package. the two interior linemen stuff the run in the middle, the DE's contain the pocket while the 3 linebackers get the majority of tackles. Tonight we were missing one (actually, technically 2) of our best QB rushing/tackle for loss LB's...but the backups are doing a good job regardless. When you face a spread offense, too much blitzing will leave receivers wide open over the middle...with a QB that has a quick release like McCoy you can't do it very often. The DE's did a good job of containing McCoy and not letting him run wild..and he was sacked at least 3-4 times.....but I think 2 of the 4 were by DE's when it is usually a linebacker. Remember how many times we stopped them on fourth down? You can't do that without pressuring the QB..

As far as Matt....that was the same thing I heard but it is just early speculation by the team doctor. If he really has to miss 2 weeks then that may be one week too many. The backup QB's aren't bad by any means...but they're both juniors with no crunch time (or passing) experience on varsity. The playoffs are not a good time to work on developing skills and timing with receivers..

As with any team you only hear about yet never see play...the hype rarely lives up to the reality. All I can tell you is that the team you saw tonight (on offense at least) is not the same one I've been watching all year (or since they were 9th graders to be exact) ...and I can't explain the turnovers...I've never seen anything like it before even from teams that aren't very good. Voodoo maybe?:confused:

wtfootball
10-31-2009, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by wyliefan
Not trying to sound like a a bad loser, but wylie cound not beat graham and the refs tonite. Graham had three calls all night, two on the final drive on defense. Not one holding call and at least 7 that I remeber against Wylie, all after a long run or pass.

Good game by Graham, but anytime you get 8 turnovers you should not lose. Wylies defense kept them in this game all night.


The QB for Wylie hopefully will be ok for the playoffs. Got taken down by a horsecollar right in front of the ref (no call). Overheard that he mihgt be able to play next week, if not maybe in two weeks.


Congratulatins to Graham, good luck the rest of the season.

Be careful Wyliefan, I told the truth after our unranked team dominated #1 ranked Bridgeport last year and have been labeled a bad person for it. Wylie is a good team and I was shocked reading the turnovers, etc. Hopefully you guys can shake it off and thank fully this was not a playoff game. Congrats to Graham.

SWAS009
10-31-2009, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by BEAST
Yall are coming to our HOUSE this time. We are hitting all cylinders now. We Ready!!!!




BEAST


Now mister "beast". You just need to calm down. You say how brownwood is soooo amazing. You forget that without shipley's 5 catches that were unbelievable how he caught them brownwood loses too. Your cheating middle line backer jumped over the center, you cant leapfrog the center. So before you go and say how great they are, play by the rules. We got cheated by the refs too, everyone does. get over it!

wyliefan
10-31-2009, 08:28 AM
After driving home last night we were talking about the game and I realize while I/we might not agree with the calls last night (what team ever does - winners or losers) Wylie did not play well enough on offense to win. Anytime you turn the ball over 8 times you will not win against a quality opponent like Graham.

My post about poor officiating was a poor post on my part. It is real easy to call a holding penalty in the stands or to call pass interference from 100 yards away.

Congratulations to Graham on a hard fought win last night, while I feel Wylie has the better team hopefully this game will make both teams better when the playoffs start in two weeks. Graham’s receivers made some great catches against us which helped them score their 2 TD’s and the Graham defense was always in the right spot to make the tackle, interception or fumble recovery.

I do take my hat off to the Graham coaching staff (coming onto the field to check on Preston and staying there with the medical staff from Wylie), the Graham players for being on one knee and the Graham fans. You could have heard a pin drop in that stadium. That was a very classy move by a great football program. While some of our fans were very classless during this time, I hope we never stoop to this level again.... What were you thinking!

As for the 8 turnovers last night on the Wylie offense, you have to congratulate the defense of Graham on putting a hat on the ball. I think Wylie's first team offense only had 4/5 turnovers all year. We did not lose a fumble or throw an interception in a driving rain against Friendship early this year. It was almost like the "refs" were putting something on the ball. (HA HA) The offense just was not in sync last tonight, but better in week 9, than week 11. Hopefully this setback will make them more focused the rest of the year.

Great Win by Graham, and good luck to your team the rest of the year.

Looking4number8
10-31-2009, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by wyliefan


My post about poor officiating was a poor post on my part. It is real easy to call a holding penalty in the stands or to call pass interference from 100 yards away.





I think everybody understands your post was emotional last night, at least I do. I applaud your feelings for your team and you being man enough to realize it after a good nights sleep.

With that said, it is now in print and expect it to come back and bite Wylie in the a$$ some time in the future when someone else complains about the refs

garciap77
10-31-2009, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Inmateboss
[QUOTE]Originally posted by michaelp23
[B]Dear Graham,

You're Welcome.

Sincerely,

The Wylie Offense

:doh:



I've seen A LOT of high school football, and I've never seen a team give up 8 turnovers. It's like the ball had vaseline on it or something. On a positive note, the Wylie defense played an incredible game. To give up only 13 points after your offense coughs it up that many times is impressive to say the least.


The Wylie Defense was, is and will continue to be AWESOME. The Offense tonight saw just a bit of what ya'll have shown everybody all season. It's hell to have the ball time and time again and not put any points on the board. Many many prayers go out to ya'lls QB, and God Bless on the rest of your Season>

Nice post, but Wylie did not give up 8 turnovers! Graham took them! Graham played a heck of game! Congrats! Missed you at the M&G!

GP77

squid
10-31-2009, 09:52 AM
With that said, it is now in print and expect it to come back and bite Wylie in the a$$ some time in the future when someone else complains about the refs

What?! On the internet?! No way that ever happens, about as likely to happen as someone re-posting Rocket's purple and gold t-shirts pics.

Bullaholic
10-31-2009, 10:00 AM
Congrats to the Graham Steers for their biggest win of the year. I really thought Abilene Wylie would win this one, but it shows that 2-3A is really a balanced district with a lot of good teams. Lots of hurt pride in Abilene Wylie today---but that will pass quickly as we all enter the 2nd season in only 2 weeks.

Inmateboss
10-31-2009, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by garciap77
Nice post, but Wylie did not give up 8 turnovers! Graham took them! Graham played a heck of game! Congrats! Missed you at the M&G!

GP77

Yeah I had to work security at the arena!! I'll try to make the next one. Any word on your QB????

Mcguirk
10-31-2009, 10:39 AM
Congatulations to all the Graham players on a good game. They played hard and clean.

No use rehashing thoughts because mine have all been stated elsewhere. I'm still trying to figure out how they kept giving Wylie footballs full of helium and covered in grease though. Graham was responsible for most of the turnovers, but a couple of times it seems that the ball just popped out, straight up in the air.

And everyone on the Wylie side thought the guys screaming at the refs while Matt was down on the field were WAYYY out of line too.

markp08
10-31-2009, 11:02 AM
At the risk of getting shredded on this board, I want to publicly admit that I yelled a couple of times at the refs immediately following Matt's injury. I got my frustrations out and then silently watched our worst nightmare unfold.

To all of the Wylie fans and Matt's family, I offer my sincerest apologies and ask for your forgiveness. I regret that I may have contributed to any appearance that Wylie fans are classless. I have been following and supporting this program for 15 years and I have seen nothing but class and respect by this program and it's fans during that time.

For many different reasons there was much frustration on the Wylie side of the field last night and some of us fans let it get the better of us. Hats off to Graham for forcing 8 TOs. I have never seen anything like it from any Wylie team. Graham's Defense came to play. Credit goes to the Graham coaching staff and those kids for being ready to bring it last night. And bring it they did.

Wylie will support and cheer for Graham the rest of the way. I will remember the next time what a class program Wylie is, and I for one, will not slip and contribute to any negative impression of Wylie, it's kids or it's fans. Congrats Graham and Hook 'em Horns!

ivchris
10-31-2009, 11:08 AM
Congratulations Graham. You guys' played one hell of a game and were hitting harder than anyone all year. Our guys didn't turn the ball over 8 times, ya'll took it from us. We couldn't get a sustainable drive on offense all night.

My hat is off to the Wylie Defense. Those guys played like champions. Kudo's to Grayson Martin, Robert Miller and Derrick Morrow who seemed to be all over the field.

We had some classless people in our stands tonight and hope we are not judged on the few that chose to yell instead of show concern for our QB.


Prayers for our QB, Matt, for a speedy recovery. He's a solid player and the definition of a winner.

SWAS009
10-31-2009, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by markp08
At the risk of getting shredded on this board, I want to publicly admit that I yelled a couple of times at the refs immediately following Matt's injury. I got my frustrations out and then silently watched our worst nightmare unfold.

To all of the Wylie fans and Matt's family, I offer my sincerest apologies and ask for your forgiveness. I regret that I may have contributed to any appearance that Wylie fans are classless. I have been following and supporting this program for 15 years and I have seen nothing but class and respect by this program and it's fans during that time.

For many different reasons there was much frustration on the Wylie side of the field last night and some of us fans let it get the better of us. Hats off to Graham for forcing 8 TOs. I have never seen anything like it from any Wylie team. Graham's Defense came to play. Credit goes to the Graham coaching staff and those kids for being ready to bring it last night. And bring it they did.

Wylie will support and cheer for Graham the rest of the way. I will remember the next time what a class program Wylie is, and I for one, will not slip and contribute to any negative impression of Wylie, it's kids or it's fans. Congrats Graham and Hook 'em Horns!

Well, it takes some class to admit you were wrong. That's a good start for your apology to his family. Most will just blend in with all of the rest on the visiting side last night.

ccmom
10-31-2009, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by markp08
At the risk of getting shredded on this board, I want to publicly admit that I yelled a couple of times at the refs immediately following Matt's injury. I got my frustrations out and then silently watched our worst nightmare unfold.

To all of the Wylie fans and Matt's family, I offer my sincerest apologies and ask for your forgiveness. I regret that I may have contributed to any appearance that Wylie fans are classless. I have been following and supporting this program for 15 years and I have seen nothing but class and respect by this program and it's fans during that time.

For many different reasons there was much frustration on the Wylie side of the field last night and some of us fans let it get the better of us. Hats off to Graham for forcing 8 TOs. I have never seen anything like it from any Wylie team. Graham's Defense came to play. Credit goes to the Graham coaching staff and those kids for being ready to bring it last night. And bring it they did.

Wylie will support and cheer for Graham the rest of the way. I will remember the next time what a class program Wylie is, and I for one, will not slip and contribute to any negative impression of Wylie, it's kids or it's fans. Congrats Graham and Hook 'em Horns! Part of showing class is admitting when you are wrong. Classy post, Mark.

Inmateboss
10-31-2009, 11:14 AM
Emotions make people do wierd crap all the time., stuff they would never do otherwise. Wylie fans have always been super to our kids every time I've been to ya'lls house. Sometimes you can't help getting caught up in the moment and say or do stupid things. In golf we use a Muligan (sp) in football I guess we use M&G's to show were really just good people who love football and all the Hype. So, it's water under the bridge focus on the young man thats hurt, Pray for a quick recovery and prepare for Friday night football.:2thumbsup :2thumbsup

WylieBulldog92
10-31-2009, 11:20 AM
That slant for a touchdown wasn't a catch either, the ref who signaled the touchdown was behind him, but each team had their fair share of TERRIBLE calls especially that late hit as well.

Pendragon13
10-31-2009, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by markp08
At the risk of getting shredded on this board, I want to publicly admit that I yelled a couple of times at the refs immediately following Matt's injury. I got my frustrations out and then silently watched our worst nightmare unfold.

To all of the Wylie fans and Matt's family, I offer my sincerest apologies and ask for your forgiveness. I regret that I may have contributed to any appearance that Wylie fans are classless. I have been following and supporting this program for 15 years and I have seen nothing but class and respect by this program and it's fans during that time.

For many different reasons there was much frustration on the Wylie side of the field last night and some of us fans let it get the better of us. Hats off to Graham for forcing 8 TOs. I have never seen anything like it from any Wylie team. Graham's Defense came to play. Credit goes to the Graham coaching staff and those kids for being ready to bring it last night. And bring it they did.

Wylie will support and cheer for Graham the rest of the way. I will remember the next time what a class program Wylie is, and I for one, will not slip and contribute to any negative impression of Wylie, it's kids or it's fans. Congrats Graham and Hook 'em Horns! I'm not the kind that yells at the refs during football games, but I was probably thinking in my head everything you and others verbalized. It was an emotionally charged game for both sides and Wylie fans were especially frustrated that every time our defense made a stop and our offense started their march to the endzone...another turnover. Graham probably did cause 2 of those fumbles with strips or hard hits (and of course the two ints) but the other half were beyond comprehension...our backs and receivers have seen hard hitting/ball stripping defenses before and hung onto the ball. Even during the pouring rain against Frenship we didn't let the ball get away..:confused: Congrats to graham for the win...the refs didn't hand the game to them but the turnovers did. The 8 turnovers is astonishing enough, but only a 3 point difference is even moreso..gotta give massive props to the Bulldog D for keeping us in the game.

STANG RED
10-31-2009, 11:33 AM
I had a feeling Graham would win this, because they almost had to. Wylie really had nothing to gain or lose in this game, and they evidently played like it. Except for the lose of their starting QB, this is really the best thing that could have happened to Wylie. This will get them refocused and ready for another long playoff run as usual. Will losing their starting QB hurt them? Sure it will, but not nearly as bad as some may think. Wylie is always very deep and will always have someone step in in any position, that will get the job done. Whoever steps in, will get to hon his skills for a couple weeks before the playoffs start, and will be just fine.
I just hate that this had to happen the week before Wylie plays my hapless Mustangs. :( Before this, I really figured Sandifer was going to play mostly backups, and would take it as easy as possible on the Mustangs. But in light of what happened, he really cant afford to do that now. He has to get all his starters back on the field and playing well again, for confidence sake, if for nothing else. I'm just hoping he sees enough by half time.

Inmateboss
10-31-2009, 11:34 AM
You know it's wierd that the Refs catch so much flack during a game and we wind up saying well they called it like they saw it. But we had a game where the Refs didn't show, got a couple of dads from each side and it was an awesome game, and everyone left feeling that it was fair. why is that????

Mcguirk
10-31-2009, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by ccmom
Part of showing class is admitting when you are wrong. Classy post, Mark.


:iagree:

Z-RO
10-31-2009, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by WylieBulldog92
That slant for a touchdown wasn't a catch either, the ref who signaled the touchdown was behind him, but each team had their fair share of TERRIBLE calls especially that late hit as well.

http://www.timesrecordnews.com/photos/2009/oct/31/33714/

http://www.timesrecordnews.com/photos/2009/oct/31/33714/

It might not show up, if so click on the link provided. Looks like a catch to me

And to those who still think that the it should have been a horsecollar

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/zrozrozro/10310900072.jpg

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/zrozrozro/10310900081.jpg

RedWhiteBlue
10-31-2009, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by ccmom
Part of showing class is admitting when you are wrong. Classy post, Mark.
Great!!!:clap:

Pendragon13
10-31-2009, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Inmateboss
You know it's wierd that the Refs catch so much flack during a game and we wind up saying well they called it like they saw it. But we had a game where the Refs didn't show, got a couple of dads from each side and it was an awesome game, and everyone left feeling that it was fair. why is that???? Wow...did that happen at a varsity game?:eek:

squid
10-31-2009, 12:07 PM
That slant for a touchdown wasn't a catch either, the ref who signaled the touchdown was behind him

please stop

LE Dad
10-31-2009, 12:51 PM
Good job Graham :clap: :clap: :D

Rocket
10-31-2009, 01:09 PM
Wylie is by far the better team but the best team doesn't always win. Graham won the game. This is why we go watch the games right? Congrats Graham and hopefully, we will see you Round 4 for what will be a HUGE Texas High School Football game. I bet 10,000+ will be there if this goes down.



:clap:

grahampaw
10-31-2009, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by garciap77
Nice post, but Wylie did not give up 8 turnovers! Graham took them! Graham played a heck of game! Congrats! Missed you at the M&G!

GP77 Garciap77 is the Class of 3A downlow.Never a bad word about an opposing team and a huge supporter of his team.

Z-RO
10-31-2009, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Rocket
Wylie is by far the better team but the best team doesn't always win. Graham won the game. This is why we go watch the games right? Congrats Graham and hopefully, we will see you Round 4 for what will be a HUGE Texas High School Football game. I bet 10,000+ will be there if this goes down.



:clap:

Just ask Graham about the better team not always winning right :p

On a more serious note, I think you are right. A 4th rd game between those 2 would be huge.

RedWhiteBlue
10-31-2009, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Rocket
Wylie is by far the better team but the best team doesn't always win.

:clap:

Yep, same case when we played you guys..... :D

Looking4number8
10-31-2009, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
Yep, same case when we played you guys..... :D

We just have the better looking fans so we got the close win on that accord!

RedWhiteBlue
10-31-2009, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Looking4number8
We just have the better looking fans so we got the close win on that accord!

Well, you are a hooker- I mean looker!!!:D :eek:

Looking4number8
10-31-2009, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
Well, you are a hooker- I mean looker!!!:D :eek:
Either way, at least my family knows where I am at night!

Rocket
10-31-2009, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
Yep, same case when we played you guys..... :D

We gave you 3 TO's and 100 yards in penalties and still won. Nope, we are better. Sorry.

RedWhiteBlue
10-31-2009, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by Rocket
We gave you 3 TO's and 100 yards in penalties and still won. Nope, we are better. Sorry.

It you weren't so funny- you would be useless....:D

RedWhiteBlue
10-31-2009, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Rocket
We gave you 3 TO's and 100 yards in penalties and still won. Nope, we are better. Sorry.

I guess you guys were the only "cupcake, air or nobody" that we couldn't beat...:doh:

trusteer/trublu
10-31-2009, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Rocket
We gave you 3 TO's and 100 yards in penalties and still won. Nope, we are better. Sorry. u r a hoot Rockie.....we will play hard to get to meet u in playoffs...hope yall do the same....sounds like we r scared doesn't it:inlove: :inlove: :inlove:

WylieBulldog92
10-31-2009, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by squid
please stop Mmm no I saw it clearly, 100% sure it wasn't a catch, however LIKE I SAID in the rest of post you didn't quote we got calls our way too.

Graham won, we have to move on and play to our potential they were the better team last night, and there is no doubting that.

Inmateboss
10-31-2009, 06:49 PM
Would someone start a Brownwood/Snyder thread W/poll. Thats going to be the GOTW. That would be worth going to see. Good luck to both, it's going to be a blast.

grahampaw
10-31-2009, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by WylieBulldog92
Mmm no I saw it clearly, 100% sure it wasn't a catch, however LIKE I SAID in the rest of post you didn't quote we got calls our way too.

Graham won, we have to move on and play to our potential they were the better team last night, and there is no doubting that. That was to hard to tell for sure if that was a catch or not.Certainly no way to be 100%.On go friday Night there is a picture that I dont know how to post on here , but gives fairly good evidence that it was a catch.Clearly he had his hands under the ball while in the air.

slingshot
10-31-2009, 07:26 PM
Good game Graham--ya'll deserved the win. Both defenses played lights out, Graham hit us harder than anyone has all year (most of those 5 fumbles didn't just happen by themselves) and our D played incredible--8 turnovers and only give up 13 points? Are you kidding me?
This can go two ways for us...
Option A--The Chicken Little Plan--The sky is falling, the wheels have come off, we suddenly forgot how to play ball, our starting QB is hurt. Might as well just pack it in and air up the basketballs...
Option B--The Wylie Plan--We re-group, re-focus, get our very talented but inexperienced 6'3", 225# Jr back-up QB some invaluable game experience and practice snaps with the first team offense. Probably lean more on the defense and running game until he is up to speed... come out of this actually better in the long run.
Time will tell...

Rustler
10-31-2009, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by markp08
At the risk of getting shredded on this board, I want to publicly admit that I yelled a couple of times at the refs immediately following Matt's injury. I got my frustrations out and then silently watched our worst nightmare unfold.

To all of the Wylie fans and Matt's family, I offer my sincerest apologies and ask for your forgiveness. I regret that I may have contributed to any appearance that Wylie fans are classless. I have been following and supporting this program for 15 years and I have seen nothing but class and respect by this program and it's fans during that time.

For many different reasons there was much frustration on the Wylie side of the field last night and some of us fans let it get the better of us. Hats off to Graham for forcing 8 TOs. I have never seen anything like it from any Wylie team. Graham's Defense came to play. Credit goes to the Graham coaching staff and those kids for being ready to bring it last night. And bring it they did.

Wylie will support and cheer for Graham the rest of the way. I will remember the next time what a class program Wylie is, and I for one, will not slip and contribute to any negative impression of Wylie, it's kids or it's fans. Congrats Graham and Hook 'em Horns! :clap: :clap: You Are A Class Act For Your Apology:clap: :clap:

trusteer/trublu
10-31-2009, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by slingshot
Good game Graham--ya'll deserved the win. Both defenses played lights out, Graham hit us harder than anyone has all year (most of those 5 fumbles didn't just happen by themselves) and our D played incredible--8 turnovers and only give up 13 points? Are you kidding me?
This can go two ways for us...
Option A--The Chicken Little Plan--The sky is falling, the wheels have come off, we suddenly forgot how to play ball, our starting QB is hurt. Might as well just pack it in and air up the basketballs...
Option B--The Wylie Plan--We re-group, re-focus, get our very talented but inexperienced 6'3", 225# Jr back-up QB some invaluable game experience and practice snaps with the first team offense. Probably lean more on the defense and running game until he is up to speed... come out of this actually better in the long run.
Time will tell... My money is on plan B....you have a good team and program...yall b fine:inlove: :inlove: :inlove:

WylieBulldog92
10-31-2009, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by grahampaw
in the air.
You have to control all the way through, I've seen said picture several times.

Z-RO
10-31-2009, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by WylieBulldog92
You have to control all the way through, I've seen said picture several times.

And your saying that he didnt? Opposed to the refs who were closer to the action then you were :rolleyes:

I'll leave this topic on this note...Excuses are just like _____ Everybody has one.

ccmom
10-31-2009, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Z-RO
And your saying that he didnt? Opposed to the refs who were closer to the action then you were :rolleyes:

Two things I never thought would happen....Wylie turning the ball over 8 times, and me agreeing with ZRO. I need a drink.

injuredinmelee
10-31-2009, 09:38 PM
Finally getting on to voice my opinion on the game...
Graham DOMINATED Wylie in every aspect fo the game. They out hustled, out hit, out coached (great adjustment by the offensive staff to exploit the linebacker coming after McCoy), and most importantly OUT SCORED Wylie. Hats off to the Wylie defense. This game should have been 28-10 and could have been easily if it wasnt for lights out defensive play.

Thats all you may continue what you were doing.


Oh yeah if Preston is out we could easily be one and done.

injuredinmelee
10-31-2009, 09:39 PM
Wish more folks would of come to the M&G... but I see there are lots more Graham posters on today than last week... lol BANDWAGONERS

squid
10-31-2009, 09:50 PM
Word on the street, and as reported on KTXS tonight, is that Preston's injury may not be as bad as first thought. Their source was his dad. But then they went on to say that he could be out for up to 3 weeks. I agree with IITM on that tho', if he's out for week one of the playoffs Wylie might be done.

Pendragon13
10-31-2009, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by injuredinmelee
Finally getting on to voice my opinion on the game...
Graham DOMINATED Wylie in every aspect fo the game. They out hustled, out hit, out coached (great adjustment by the offensive staff to exploit the linebacker coming after McCoy), and most importantly OUT SCORED Wylie. Hats off to the Wylie defense. This game should have been 28-10 and could have been easily if it wasnt for lights out defensive play.

Thats all you may continue what you were doing.


Oh yeah if Preston is out we could easily be one and done. How can you say we were dominated in every aspect when the stats say otherwise? The only stats they won were passing yards (235 vs 191) but everything else (rushing yards, first downs and total offense) makes it look like a Wylie win if you ignore the turnovers and forget that our defense held them to thirteen points in spite of 8 (I still can't believe it) turnovers. Graham did what they had to do to win and that was something nobody else has been able to do this year...but I wouldn't say they dominated. As far as Preston goes....he will DEFINITELY be missed in any game he's not playing...but I've been watching Wylie far too long and know that they almost always find a way to replace injured players. QB is no doubt the toughest position to replace, but I've learned to never say never with these kids and the coaches will draw up a gameplan to suit the personnel.

Sweetwater Red
10-31-2009, 09:57 PM
I am probably going to be the only Sweetwater poster at the M&G
next week injured. I plan on sitting with ccmom for the first half
and then you for the second half. It just depends on how bad the score
Is and who has the stronger alcohol. I'll be honest. I am not a
wine drinker. So here is hoping you have something more stout.:D

BobcatBenny
10-31-2009, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by Pendragon13
How can you say we were dominated in every aspect when the stats say otherwise? The only stats they won were passing yards (235 vs 191) but everything else (rushing yards, first downs and total offense) makes it look like a Wylie win if you ignore the turnovers and forget that our defense held them to thirteen points in spite of 8 (I still can't believe it) turnovers. Graham did what they had to do to win and that was something nobody else has been able to do this year...but I wouldn't say they dominated. As far as Preston goes....he will DEFINITELY be missed in any game he's not playing...but I've been watching Wylie far too long and know that they almost always find a way to replace injured players. QB is no doubt the toughest position to replace, but I've learned to never say never with these kids and the coaches will draw up a gameplan to suit the personnel.
I dunno, but last time I checked ... 8 turnovers is called being dominated.

Pendragon13
10-31-2009, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by BobcatBenny
I dunno, but last time I checked ... 8 turnovers is called being dominated. "every aspect" includes defense though...having to defend while your offense should be on the field and only giving up 13 points is not really getting dominated. Don't get me wrong, Graham deserves props for causing some of those turnovers (others were so strange that it doesn't make sense) and generally disrupting our offense when it really counted. Those boys gave it everything they had, and Graham fans should be proud.

SWAS009
10-31-2009, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by squid
Word on the street, and as reported on KTXS tonight, is that Preston's injury may not be as bad as first thought. Their source was his dad. But then they went on to say that he could be out for up to 3 weeks. I agree with IITM on that tho', if he's out for week one of the playoffs Wylie might be done.

Look at what Brownwood did with McShan. No one thought they had much of a shot with the first 2 quarterbacks gone. Wylie can still go far.

Tromboneking
10-31-2009, 11:01 PM
I don't know that Graham dominated the game, but think of it this way. Had Graham been able to convert and score on the 8 turnovers...it would have been a blowout. Heck...graham was stopped on the one yrd line....(which should have been blown dead because of the progress)..missed FG.....Graham COULD have won much bigger..props to the Wylie D....

Inmateboss
10-31-2009, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Pendragon13
"every aspect" includes defense though...having to defend while your offense should be on the field and only giving up 13 points is not really getting dominated. Don't get me wrong, Graham deserves props for causing some of those turnovers (others were so strange that it doesn't make sense) and generally disrupting our offense when it really counted. Those boys gave it everything they had, and Graham fans should be proud.

Yeah Dominated might be a bit strong. when some guys give you the ball and it's like go ahead and take it were not going to let you score, it can be dishearting. Graham just kept fighting, and I'd say we took the ball 5 times and were given the ball 3. We had some good offense, Wylie had some good offense, but this game was all about DEFENSE. Every defensive player on the field friday night can say we kicked some serious BUTT and it would be the truth. Pats on the backs to both teams.

nobogey72
10-31-2009, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by rangerjoe33
Unless I am mistaken the horse collar rule is not called at the high school level, even if it was a horse collar tackle.

Yes you are mistaken. I'm not saying that it was a horsecollar as it could have been his jersey, but I've seen it called lots of times in HS.

nobogey72
10-31-2009, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by michaelp23
Dear Graham,

You're Welcome.

Sincerely,

The Wylie Offense

:doh:



I've seen A LOT of high school football, and I've never seen a team give up 8 turnovers. It's like the ball had vaseline on it or something. On a positive note, the Wylie defense played an incredible game. To give up only 13 points after your offense coughs it up that many times is impressive to say the least.

Congrats Graham. You are the district champs (forget the tie since you beat us).

??? If it ends up in a 2 way tie, I would agree. But if B'Wood beats Snyder, then it's 3 way. Either way, we could have taken care of business last night but didn't get it done.

nobogey72
10-31-2009, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by WylieBulldog87
Ok here is my take on the game. I am a bulldog fan so it may seem a little bias. I am from Dallas, so I am trying to be objective here.
1. Don't know total yardage for both teams, but Wylie seemed to run up the field on them until they turned it over. They didn't punt 1x. They had 11 possessions in the game 8 turnovers, 1 turnover on downs, a touchdown on the first play of the game and a field goal. Wow, no punts at all.
2. Graham did have a tough defense. They were hitting hard and they did cause those turnovers. Their defense was in the backfield on almost every play. QB had no time to pass the ball.
3. Wylie's o-line was horrible. They didn't look anything like a state playoff team tonight. They couldn't run or pass. Their 51 yard touchdown run was on the hidden ball trick...Graham never new what hit them. They ran that on the first play of the game.
4. Wylie's Defense is tough. Graham had a 1st and goal at the 1 yard line and couldn't score. They missed a field goal.
5. Case McCoy, didn't really impress me at all. He had 2 nice pass plays on their first scoring drive, but both were spectacular catches....
6. Wylie gave McCoy way to much time to pass. They didn't put hardly any pressure on him and if they did, he avoided first rusher and was able to buy time for reciever to get open....Still Wylie needs to get more pressure on the qb.

I haven't seen a Wylie game this season. I have only been keeping up with them from 3ADL and news articles from web. Everything I am hearing had me believe that they were a dominant 3a football team. After tonights performance, I don't think they would go far in the playoffs and its not just the turnovers. Their offense couldn't really find any consistency. O-line is horrible.

I talked to one of Wylie's doctors after game and they mentioned qb that got hurt will miss about 2 weeks with MCL sprain. At least that is early prognosis.

I thought Graham was ok. Don't really think they are a dominating team either. They did deserve to win today. No doubt about it. Before the game started, I mentioned to my friend that Wylie doesn't seem emotional enough for this game tonight. I didn't feel like they had the energy or desire tonight and that was evident of all the turnover.

"Couldn't run or pass" ???? I'm not sure what game you saw but we had 25 first downs and 400 yds of offense. O Line didn't have their best game but Graham's D had a little to do with that. Man you are making some pretty brash statements to have only seen one game.

slingshot
11-01-2009, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by trusteer/trublu
My money is on plan B....you have a good team and program...yall b fine:inlove: :inlove: :inlove: ...mine too.
To the Wylie 'fans' saying we are toast if Preston is out for any time at all: Thanks for your unwavering support :rolleyes: . The team appreciates it... This team is not star driven... This team is not about one player... With our DEFENSE and running game and a couple weeks for Sandifer to prepare him--Watts will do just fine. Hide and watch. He's a big, strong kid with a very strong arm and surprising open field running ability--did any of ya'll see that 60 yard TD run against LaVega on the QB draw? When Preston returns we'll be back to full strength now with an experienced back up.

garciap77
11-02-2009, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by Pendragon13
1. You're right, take away the two big spectacular circus catches and Wylie probably has more yards through the air and ground...but it doesn't matter when you can't hang on to the ball.
2. Yes, Graham obviously watched film from the Snyder game and did a good job getting in the backfield and pressuring Preston...but still we marched the ball down the field until the point where we handed it back to them every single time.
3. I would give more credit to Grahams defense tonight making the O-line look bad on certain plays...I'm sure if you watched game film you would grade them better than horrible. They're all first year starters (senior o-line last year) and have been doing a good job all year.
4. Yes they are..nobody can deny that. Add Grahams 13 points tonight and that makes a grand total of 34 points scored on our first team defense for the YEAR with one game left to go. You can't ask any more than that..especially considering the teams we've played this year.
5. Maybe he didn't look like a top D1 prospect tonight, but a lot of that was due to the Bulldog defense. His receivers did go above and beyond to catch a few balls that he probably shouldn't have thrown....but we only managed to intercept one of them, so he was doing something right.
6. Wylie is a controlled defense with very few blitzes in the package. the two interior linemen stuff the run in the middle, the DE's contain the pocket while the 3 linebackers get the majority of tackles. Tonight we were missing one (actually, technically 2) of our best QB rushing/tackle for loss LB's...but the backups are doing a good job regardless. When you face a spread offense, too much blitzing will leave receivers wide open over the middle...with a QB that has a quick release like McCoy you can't do it very often. The DE's did a good job of containing McCoy and not letting him run wild..and he was sacked at least 3-4 times.....but I think 2 of the 4 were by DE's when it is usually a linebacker. Remember how many times we stopped them on fourth down? You can't do that without pressuring the QB..

As far as Matt....that was the same thing I heard but it is just early speculation by the team doctor. If he really has to miss 2 weeks then that may be one week too many. The backup QB's aren't bad by any means...but they're both juniors with no crunch time (or passing) experience on varsity. The playoffs are not a good time to work on developing skills and timing with receivers..

As with any team you only hear about yet never see play...the hype rarely lives up to the reality. All I can tell you is that the team you saw tonight (on offense at least) is not the same one I've been watching all year (or since they were 9th graders to be exact) ...and I can't explain the turnovers...I've never seen anything like it before even from teams that aren't very good. Voodoo maybe?:confused:

Great Post!

When was the last time we won at Graham? I've seen three games at Graham in since 1997 and we have lost all of them, even when we were ahead.


P.S. Sorry I have not had the chance to read and response to some of these posts. I was busy being a Grandfather! My daughter had a baby boy this pasted Thursday. We have been busy helping her and my son-law out!

Looking4number8
11-02-2009, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by garciap77



P.S. Sorry I have not had the chance to read and response to some of these posts. I was busy being a Grandfather! My daughter had a baby boy this pasted Thursday. We have been busy helping her and my son-law out!

Congrats on being a Grand Pa, like I told you yesterday, it's the best part of life!!!!! I hate to admit that sometimes my grand duaghter even comes before my Brownwood Lions.... but only sometimes:)

Congrats my friend!!

garciap77
11-02-2009, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by Mcguirk
Congatulations to all the Graham players on a good game. They played hard and clean.

No use rehashing thoughts because mine have all been stated elsewhere. I'm still trying to figure out how they kept giving Wylie footballs full of helium and covered in grease though. Graham was responsible for most of the turnovers, but a couple of times it seems that the ball just popped out, straight up in the air.

And everyone on the Wylie side thought the guys screaming at the refs while Matt was down on the field were WAYYY out of line too.

Football Alert!!!!!

After the game we stop at the Whataburger in Graham! Rumor has it that the people yelling at the refs were from Graham!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:



What gave them away was the blue wigs they were wearing!
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/6a00e550913f368833010535aff770970c-.jpg




















;)

garciap77
11-02-2009, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Looking4number8
Congrats on being a Grand Pa, like I told you yesterday, it's the best part of life!!!!! I hate to admit that sometimes my grand duaghter even comes before my Brownwood Lions.... but only sometimes:)

Congrats my friend!!

Thanks!

Me too! (somtimes) That's why I was at the game Friday! Could not make my wife to come with me to the game, so I had to settle for injuredinmelee!:D



;)

garciap77
11-02-2009, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by grahampaw
Garciap77 is the Class of 3A downlow.Never a bad word about an opposing team and a huge supporter of his team.
Thanks!:)

ccmom
11-02-2009, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by garciap77
Great Post!

When was the last time we won at Graham? I've seen three games at Graham in since 1997 and we have lost all of them, even when we were ahead.


P.S. Sorry I have not had the chance to read and response to some of these posts. I was busy being a Grandfather! My daughter had a baby boy this pasted Thursday. We have been busy helping her and my son-law out!

Congrats on your new blessing!:)

Looking4number8
11-02-2009, 09:05 AM
Garcia... I just realized something... you are the king of pictures and that baby is 4 days old and we have not seen a picture yet! What the heck is going on???

Rocket
11-02-2009, 09:19 AM
The Garcia Theory? hmmmmm :thinking:

LE Dad
11-02-2009, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by garciap77
Football Alert!!!!!

After the game we stop at the Whataburger in Graham! Rumor has it that the people yelling at the refs were from Graham!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:



What gave them away was the blue wigs they were wearing!
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/6a00e550913f368833010535aff770970c-.jpg




















;) :clap: :clap: Glad to see you back. Congrats on the new addition to the GP family. :)

RedWhiteBlue
11-02-2009, 10:08 AM
Congrats, garcia!!! You didn't even tell me Friday!!! Hope everything is going well, Grandpa!!!:kiss: :clap: :D

BwdLions
11-02-2009, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by SWAS009
Now mister "beast". You just need to calm down. You say how brownwood is soooo amazing. You forget that without shipley's 5 catches that were unbelievable how he caught them brownwood loses too. Your cheating middle line backer jumped over the center, you cant leapfrog the center. So before you go and say how great they are, play by the rules. We got cheated by the refs too, everyone does. get over it!

First off, you're saying that we couldn't have beaten Graham without Shipley's catches? No kidding Sherlock. Take one of the best players off a team and you don't have as good a chance of winning. As far as calling our defensive player that made the "great play" a cheater, he didn't "leapfrog the center." He jumped over the gap between the center and guard and made an unbelieveable play. Don't be such a (sore) loser.

markp08
11-02-2009, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by squid
Word on the street, and as reported on KTXS tonight, is that Preston's injury may not be as bad as first thought. Their source was his dad. But then they went on to say that he could be out for up to 3 weeks. I agree with IITM on that tho', if he's out for week one of the playoffs Wylie might be done.

SORRY!! There is NO way we're one and done. We have a four headed monster running attack and arguably the best defense in this region. To keep Graham to 13 points after 8 TOs tells me that any team that plays us without our starting QB better have one heck of an offense (and Defense for that matter). Will it be a whole lot closer? Potentially. Do I see us losing in week one? No, I don't.

I would say Graham played the most agressive Defense we've seen all year and we were still able to move the ball. We just committed too many TOs to come out on top. For me, at least, the loss wasn't a shocker considering the way we turned the ball over. The "shocker" was the way we turned the ball over. I don't see that happening again this year.

We will definitely have to step it up in certain areas of the game, but Wylie has done that before and been victorious and I don't see any reason that won't happen now!!! My prediction is we're playing now to get Matt back and I think we are capable of doing it if he's only out 3 weeks. Anything beyond that is up for grabs.

garciap77
11-02-2009, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
Congrats, garcia!!! You didn't even tell me Friday!!! Hope everything is going well, Grandpa!!!:kiss: :clap: :D

I was to focused on the game!:D



P.S. I did tell Rick!:D

garciap77
11-02-2009, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by ccmom
Congrats on your new blessing!:)

Thanks ccmom!

garciap77
11-02-2009, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Looking4number8
Garcia... I just realized something... you are the king of pictures and that baby is 4 days old and we have not seen a picture yet! What the heck is going on???

I'm working on it!:D


I think I have taken about 2,000 pictures, but can't decided which on to post!:D


Preview:
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/Baby-with-a-camera-Koch---Wolf-2006.jpg


:D

garciap77
11-02-2009, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Rocket
The Garcia Theory? hmmmmm :thinking:

:thinking: :D

RedWhiteBlue
11-02-2009, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by garciap77
I was to focused on the game!:D



P.S. I did tell Rick!:D

I see where I rate!!!:rolleyes:

Rocket
11-02-2009, 02:09 PM
It is truly amazing that Graham was held to 13 points after Wylie had 8 TO's. Wow. Wylie's defense is stout. It was an ugly win for Graham and an even uglier loss for Wylie.

Pendragon13
11-02-2009, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Rocket
It is truly amazing that Graham was held to 13 points after Wylie had 8 TO's. Wow. Wylie's defense is stout. It was an ugly win for Graham and an even uglier loss for Wylie. Yeah, they've been playing amazing all year. Someone (who has been keeping track better than I have) pointed out after the game that Wylies full first team defense has only given up 34 points to 3 different teams for the entire season with only one game to go....and we were missing 2 starting LB's vs Graham. You can't ask for more than that..

gibby
11-02-2009, 03:28 PM
What are we thinking? Do we not have a great staff of coaches? Don't we have the best rounded team in the state? It aint over till Hugh says it's over. Guess what , he aint gonna say that. We have overcome larger. Aint nothin but a thang. How many teams would like to be in our shoes?

pero chato
11-02-2009, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by gibby
What are we thinking? Do we not have a great staff of coaches? Don't we have the best rounded team in the state? It aint over till Hugh says it's over. Guess what , he aint gonna say that. We have overcome larger. Aint nothin but a thang. How many teams would like to be in our shoes?

I wouldn't want to be in their practice shoes this week!

gibby
11-02-2009, 03:56 PM
Point well taken. Think he will use the Stangs to work out some changes. God gave us the opposable thumb for a reason.

Mcguirk
11-02-2009, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by garciap77
Great Post!

When was the last time we won at Graham? I've seen three games at Graham in since 1997 and we have lost all of them, even when we were ahead.


P.S. Sorry I have not had the chance to read and response to some of these posts. I was busy being a Grandfather! My daughter had a baby boy this pasted Thursday. We have been busy helping her and my son-law out!

Congratulations BoomPa! :thumbsup:

Inmateboss
11-02-2009, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by BwdLions
First off, you're saying that we couldn't have beaten Graham without Shipley's catches? No kidding Sherlock. Take one of the best players off a team and you don't have as good a chance of winning. As far as calling our defensive player that made the "great play" a cheater, he didn't "leapfrog the center." He jumped over the gap between the center and guard and made an unbelieveable play. Don't be such a (sore) loser.

It's been said before, if the Zebra don't drop his hankie, he could have kicked the center in the face and jumped on his back with both feet. No flag no foul!!!! Don't make it right but thats the way it is folks. Good Lord thats two weeks ago, let's pick at some other scab and let that one heal. Yes it was an amazing thing that Brownwood couldn't have beat us by more, but it's OK. The Fat Lady ain't singing yet!!!!

Inmateboss
11-02-2009, 05:24 PM
Hey Garcia congrats on the Baby. Hope everyone is doing good.:clap: :clap: :clap:

garciap77
11-02-2009, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Mcguirk
Congratulations BoomPa! :thumbsup:

Thanks!

garciap77
11-02-2009, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Inmateboss
Hey Garcia congrats on the Baby. Hope everyone is doing good.:clap: :clap: :clap:


Thanks! Everyone is doing fine! Congrats on the Graham win! I bet the Jail House was Rocking!!!!!.:D




:)

LE Dad
11-02-2009, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by garciap77
I bet the Jail House was Rocking!!!!!.:D




:) LOL :clap: :clap:

garciap77
11-05-2009, 01:52 PM
:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

ccmom
11-05-2009, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by garciap77
:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

Garcia, I think the whole grandpa thing has messed with your mind a little. I'm thinking this is a thread we might want to see fade away. :thinking:

We play Sweetwater this week...remember???:doh: ;)

tank96
11-05-2009, 02:47 PM
MY FIRST AND PROBABLY LAST.

tank96
11-05-2009, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by tank96
MY FIRST AND PROBABLY LAST.

FIGURED

Ranger Mom
11-05-2009, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by tank96
MY FIRST AND PROBABLY LAST.


Originally posted by tank96
FIGURED


Huh???:confused:

LE Dad
11-05-2009, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by tank96
FIGURED :confused: :confused:









:D

ccmom
11-05-2009, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by tank96
MY FIRST AND PROBABLY LAST.


Originally posted by tank96
FIGURED

OK? :doh:

garciap77
11-05-2009, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by ccmom
Garcia, I think the whole grandpa thing has messed with your mind a little. I'm thinking this is a thread we might want to see fade away. :thinking:

We play Sweetwater this week...remember???:doh: ;) I thought RM fixed it to say Sweetwater instead of Graham! Oh well you guys know what I mean!



Sweetwater sucks!:D





;)

garciap77
11-05-2009, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by tank96
MY FIRST AND PROBABLY LAST.

Originally posted by tank96
FIGURED


Is that you 325?:D








;)

ccmom
11-05-2009, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by garciap77
I thought RM fixed it to say Sweetwater instead of Graham! Oh well you guys know what I mean!



Sweetwater sucks!:D





;) She did fix it.....this is not that thread, Gramps!

garciap77
11-05-2009, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by ccmom
She did fix it.....this is not that thread, Gramps!

Can she just fixes all my mistakes!:D I'll send her some money later! Hey! Did someone forget to pay the referees this last Friday? I don't remember who's turn it was!:D
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/sillyref.jpg



;)

Pendragon13
11-05-2009, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by garciap77
Can she just fixes all my mistakes!:D I'll send her some money later! Hey! Did someone forget to pay the referees this last Friday? I don't remember who's turn it was!:D
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/sillyref.jpg



;) We couldn't raise enough money to beat Grahams offer. :doh: It wouldn't matter anyway..it was an Abilene crew (for real) and that is the worst possible thing for us. Everyone that doesn't live on the southwest side of town hates Wylie.:(

slingshot
11-05-2009, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Pendragon13
We couldn't raise enough money to beat Grahams offer. :doh: It wouldn't matter anyway..it was an Abilene crew (for real) and that is the worst possible thing for us. Everyone that doesn't live on the southwest side of town hates Wylie.:( Actually that was a Wichita Falls crew (for real)... :rolleyes:

Pendragon13
11-05-2009, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by slingshot
Actually that was a Wichita Falls crew (for real)... :rolleyes: There were at least two Abilene residents on the crew so we assumed they all were..

ccmom
11-05-2009, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Pendragon13
There were at least two Abilene residents on the crew so we assumed they all were.. The crew was from the Abilene Chapter....as all district games for district 2 are. Why are we discussing this again? LOL

grahampaw
11-05-2009, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by slingshot
Actually that was a Wichita Falls crew (for real)... :rolleyes: Wrong

Pendragon13
11-05-2009, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by ccmom
The crew was from the Abilene Chapter....as all district games for district 2 are. Why are we discussing this again? LOL Blame GP77 and his snapshot of one of the refs.:stirpot: Also, the Wylie/Sweetwater thread isn't getting much action....seems that most of the Mustang faithful are just passing through Abilene tomorrow on their way to somewhere southeast of here..:thinking:

garciap77
11-05-2009, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by Pendragon13
Blame GP77 and his snapshot of one of the refs.:stirpot: Also, the Wylie/Sweetwater thread isn't getting much action....seems that most of the Mustang faithful are just passing through Abilene tomorrow on their way to somewhere southeast of here..:thinking:


Brownwood and Snyder Suck!:D



:p

LE Dad
11-05-2009, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by garciap77
Brownwood and Snyder Suck!:D



:p :eek: :eek: :eek: