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big daddy russ
04-15-2003, 11:56 AM
I've always been for a Robin Hood Act, but the law as it stands now sucks. Our school district (Ingleside) has been in the hole due to the Act for the past three or four years and is now having to take drastic measures to keep the district running. As I said, I love helping out other schools, especially those in our own district, but I still think the Act must be restructured so that the richer schools don't suffer. This article appeared in the Corpus Christi Caller-Times today and will explain a lot more.

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Ingleside delays more school cuts
Some sports progrms had faced extinction

By Jaime Powell Caller-Times
April 15, 2003

INGLESIDE - Parents and community members are outraged that their school district may cut or restructure athletic programs, even though their school district is rich by state standards.

Monday night the school board tabled the issue of whether to cut coaches, teachers and sports programs including cross-country, soccer, golf, tennis and power lifting. About 200 people attended the meeting.

"Of course we are going to fight this," said Kathy Belser, the mother of 13-year-old golfer, Katie Belser. "We have always had plenty of money in this district. I do not think they are using their money correctly."

Two school board members were absent from the district's Monday meeting. School board members who attended the meeting said they wanted to put off discussing the issue because of the board members' absences.

The proposed cutbacks follow others in March when the school board had considered cutting 11 positions - band and choir positions, which survived, and those of nine other employees who were not so lucky.

Last year, the district froze salaries, cut six positions through attrition and offered an early retirement plan to employees. Twenty district employees took advantage of the early retirement option and were not replaced. Altogether, those economies saved the district $500,000 last year, Superintendent Ed Lyman has said.

Because of a its large industrial tax base, the Ingleside Independent School District is considered rich. But, since 1994, each year the district has returned nearly 20 percent of its annual budget to the state under the "Robin Hood" law that uses money from wealthier school districts to help poorer school districts. For the past nine years that law has cost the district $3 million to $3.5 million a year. The district has a $17 million budget for the 2002-2003 school year.

Ingleside Mayor Willie Vaden said that loss has played a big part in the school district's financial woes. He said that most of the district's schools were built in the 1930s and 1940s and that the district does not have a weight room or auditorium.

"Stop and think," Vaden said. "If we did not have Robin Hood, we could completely rebuild the schools.

"If you go to school in Aransas Pass, Sinton, Taft, they are poor school districts. Ingleside, Portland and Port Aransas are carrying the burden for the whole area," Vaden said. "You have been through the downtown. Do we look rich? Go to Robstown. Look at the brand new things they have. They got it because they are poor. I am a little angry about that."

Lyman was out of town on Monday. When teaching positions were cut last month, he said that the district's expenses had exceeded revenues for six of the past eight years and that cuts would have to happen somewhere.

Belser said the cuts proposed currently are ridiculous.

"If it is going to Robin Hood, that is wrong," she said. "The way things are we want to pull our kids out and put them where they can get good programs."

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Is there anyone else out there whose district is facing similar problems?

Doon
04-15-2003, 02:33 PM
BDR, got so mad I sent the post by mistake. Wish the state would find a better way to equalize. Man, this has gone on long enough. It just doesn't seem right when the so-called rich school districts are cutting and slicing and the so-called poor schools are building new schools and athletic facilities. Like Willie said our schools were built so long ago and we have to give our money away. Just look at our old small football field and stands and you know where we are coming from. I grew up in a 1-A school in West Texas that puts our facilities to shame. There just has to be a better way.

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sinton66
04-15-2003, 10:16 PM
Sorta makes one wonder just what the State did with all that Lottery money, huh?

big daddy russ
04-16-2003, 12:25 AM
No kidding, Doon. Oh, and just to clear something up for everyone, we do have a weightroom, but it's not necessarily a dedicated room for weightlifting, more like room in the back of the gym that they cleared out and put a couple of weight benches. Not exactly top-notch facilities.

And 66, you have a great point. I, for one, have no idea. Our old superintendent, Gilbert Mircovich, used to operate on a shoestring budget and we'd still barely get by. He definitely focused much more on academics than athletics, but we did manage to build a new baseball field in the mid-90's and a new gym in 1998. Nowadays, we're even cutting from our academics, but I guess having anything less than a 20-to-one student-to-teacher ratio is just way too much to ask from a school with a rich tax base.

Oh and Doon, check your PM.

exbccards76'smom
04-16-2003, 01:49 PM
That is only reason I voted to legalize the lottery. Wasn't it supposed to be used for education and schools??

Doon
04-16-2003, 02:48 PM
That's exactly right. It got passed because the powers that be said it would be used for education. Now where is the money? Show it to me, so our schools don't have to cut academic and athletic programs.

TarponFanInNorthTexas
04-16-2003, 06:18 PM
I agree. Port Isabel ISD is having the same problem, though not as severe as Ingleside's problem.

PI wants to rebuild it's old baseball stadium to seat more people, and better lighting. Because of Robin Hood, it can't do that yet. They want to upgrade the computers that students use currently to allow for more advanced programs. They want to get better equipment for all extracurricular activities, but can't.

And by the way, there are SEVERAL high schools, and new stadiums down in the RGV that were basically paid for with Port Isabel's money.....Rio Hondo's new high school, and new stadium. Los Fresnos's new high school, and refurbished stadium, Santa Rosa's new high school and newly rebuilt stadium. They also have the higher technology that Port Isabel's students need, but PI can't do it because the Robin Hood act prevents the school district from doing what it needs to do while allowing other school districts to act like leeches on Port Isabel. It sucks, LITERALLY!

big daddy russ
04-16-2003, 07:08 PM
Doon, I don't know whether or not you were here back in the early 90's, but our district had some money put away in anticipation of building a new gym, school, etc. The state stepped in and forced us to give millions and millions of dollars to Rockport-Fulton (who was in our district at the time). We've been dealing with crap like this for a long time, but it's gotten horrible now.

Doon
04-17-2003, 07:51 AM
BDR, got here in 94, and will remain for the long haul. Anyone just happening to go to a game that Ingleside plays will look at the UNI's and assume that Ingleside is the so-called poor school. Heck, I was looking for Joe Paterno to be roaming the sidlines with the UNI's we had. Then look at the other sidelines with the proven property poor school and tell me who is making out. When my son was in Jr. High, man I could of sworn the Uniforms were taken out of a box marked 1974.

SintonFan
04-17-2003, 10:54 PM
Property(values) taxes have alot to do with all of this. I am still against 'Robin Hood'. I think this is a good example of socialism gone bad. Isn't this just that? Of course, some of us in America think we can do socialism better than the Russians. :rolleyes:

Doon
04-18-2003, 07:15 AM
Sinton Fan, You are so right about that. I get totally PO'd when I see the school tax statement and know that the state is getting at least 30% or more of it. Next problem now is that parents are talking about transferring students. That will really help the situation here!!

sinton66
04-18-2003, 07:25 AM
On the subject of the Lottery, just for clarification, technically, Ann Richards said the lottery money could be used to help the schools. She never did say that it was designed to do so. We, as the voting public, let our naivety get in the way by not sticking to our guns and demanding that a portion of the money be dedicated to the school system prior to approving the legislation. If you ask them about it now, they say that lottery money is not dependable enough to support the schools. What they are talking about is using lottery INSTEAD of the current funding, not in addition to. It is simply a smokescreen. They have NO intention of ever using any lottery money to help the school system. If you don't believe this, just ask them yourselves. If you remember, they also received a huge windfall from the tobacco industry settlement. Do any of you know of ANY state-funded cancer treatment centers they've opened? I don't know of any. They got the money by claiming the state had to pay for all the medical benefits, did any of you have the state pay your medical bills?

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PPHSfan
04-18-2003, 08:03 AM
sinton66
She never did say that it was designed to do so. We, as the voting public, let our naivety get .........?.
Don't you mean naiveté? :p