A Few 4A's Who Might Drop Based on #'s I Have [Archive]

Matthew328

10-20-2009, 10:23 PM

Stephenville 1033
Springtown 1030
El Paso Bowie 1025
Dallas Lincoln 1015
LaMarque 999 (seen 3 different #'s HC told me this one so I'll go)
El Campo 998
Lindale 995
Kilgore 994
FW Poly 986
Big Spring 977
Pampa 971
Mabank 968.5
Mineral Wells 961
Clint Mt View 940
Henderson 890
Dallas Smith 865

Matthew328

10-20-2009, 10:28 PM

This is not taking into account the six Houston ISD schools who are rumored to all be dropping to 3A this alignment as well...

Bullaholic

10-20-2009, 10:36 PM

Give us Everman....we want Everman...:D

Emerson1

10-20-2009, 10:36 PM

Everman v. North Forney. Will finally make 3A exciting again.

crabman

10-20-2009, 10:37 PM

The last cutoff was 976 (Alvarado, I think). That number usually creeps up a bit. That kind of sucks that we have 592 and will compete with schools over 1,000.

SintonFan

10-20-2009, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by Bullaholic
Give us Everman....we want Everman...:D

What are you? A sucker for punishment?:eek: :p

Move The Chains

10-20-2009, 11:01 PM

coach

10-20-2009, 11:51 PM

dallas lincoln!...basketball will be tough

SHSBulldog00

10-20-2009, 11:56 PM

Will the UIL have both La Marque and El Campo join 26-3A?:eek: :eek:

Move The Chains

10-21-2009, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by SHSBulldog00
Will the UIL have both La Marque and El Campo join 26-3A?:eek: :eek: OUCH!

That would be a haul if LM had to go to EC.

SHSBulldog00

10-21-2009, 12:02 AM

La Marque is a good haul for us now!

SHSBulldog00

10-21-2009, 12:03 AM

Visualize a basketball game on Tuesday night between LM and EC.

Move The Chains

10-21-2009, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by SHSBulldog00
Visualize a basketball game on Tuesday night between LM and EC. Lol. They'd get home WAY late.

SHSBulldog00

10-21-2009, 12:08 AM

Could the UIL split D26 in half with LM and EC and maybe a D25 school like D23-4A and D24-4A.

IHStangFan

10-21-2009, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by Move The Chains
OUCH!

That would be a haul if LM had to go to EC. LM hasn't been their once awesome selves for a couple of years now. But yeah...I'd fully expect El Campo to go D26......maybe they take Needville's spot....as I keep hearing Needville is goin 4A. :thinking:

SHSBulldog00

10-21-2009, 12:16 AM

Needville isn't that big............ are they?

Move The Chains

10-21-2009, 12:20 AM

Needville ain't going 4a.... and. Lamarque has had coaching changes and freshman and sophs starting. They're getting it back together.

SHSBulldog00

10-21-2009, 12:22 AM

Springtown, Lindale, and Mabank moving back to 3A. Hmm, how have they done in 4A?

maroonpirate04

10-21-2009, 12:51 AM

Nothing yet on Corpus Christi Tuloso Midway?, they were on verge of moving down to 3A this past realignment. Could you picture this

Aransas Pass
CC Tuloso Midway
CC West Oso
Falfurrias
Ingleside
Mathis
Orange Grove
Robstown
Sinton
:thinking: These next two years it will make this district even tougher, Now that Tuloso Midway is doing extremely well these past two seasons

Daddy D 11

10-21-2009, 12:57 AM

Having Stephenville in 3A would be cool.

Just another historic Texas power to add to the 3A ranks.

Matthew328

10-21-2009, 07:53 AM

Tuloso-Midway is 1035 will be real close for them..I have them 4A still right now though...still getting numbers in

Matthew328

10-21-2009, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by SHSBulldog00
Springtown, Lindale, and Mabank moving back to 3A. Hmm, how have they done in 4A?

Springtown and Lindale have done OK in football they'll make the playoffs but killed in the first round...Mabank has not done well at all

garciap77

10-21-2009, 08:05 AM

Matthew328

10-21-2009, 08:23 AM

Yeah they aren't bad...went to the state championship game in 2004 lost to Kilgore in OT....since that time they've been a consistent playoff team usually losing in the 2nd round...last year they went 10-1 lost to Denison in the area playoffs

Sweetwater Red

10-21-2009, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by Matthew328
Stephenville 1033
Springtown 1030
El Paso Bowie 1025
Dallas Lincoln 1015
LaMarque 999 (seen 3 different #'s HC told me this one so I'll go)
El Campo 998
Lindale 995
Kilgore 994
FW Poly 986
Big Spring 977
Pampa 971
Mabank 968.5
Mineral Wells 961
Clint Mt View 940
Henderson 890
Dallas Smith 865

Oh man. Looks like Big Spring is gonna drop. I hope not because that could possibly mean Sweetwater gets pulled west into a crappy district. I'm guessing Sweetwater, Big Spring, Snyder, Andrews, Lamesa, and Seminole. Blah!

Bullaholic

10-21-2009, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by SintonFan
What are you? A sucker for punishment?:eek: :p

That was for Matthew's benefit since he picked my Bulls to lose by a bunch to several teams earlier in the year. I was hoping that Everman would drop out of that 'creampuff' division they are in and come back down where they play football.

STANG RED

10-21-2009, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Oh man. Looks like Big Spring is gonna drop. I hope not because that could possibly mean Sweetwater gets pulled west into a crappy district. I'm guessing Sweetwater, Big Spring, Snyder, Andrews, Lamesa, and Seminole. Blah!

Hard to believe BS was in the little SWC with Odessa, Midland, Abilene, and San Angelo just 20 or so years ago. Man did they take some whoppins in those days.
I sure hope we dont get pulled way west again. But if S'ville and Mineral Wells also drops, we'll go west for sure.

95mustang

10-21-2009, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by STANG RED
Hard to believe BS was in the little SWC with Odessa, Midland, Abilene, and San Angelo just 20 or so years ago. Man did they take some whoppins in those days.
I sure hope we dont get pulled way west again. But if S'ville and Mineral Wells also drops, we'll go west for sure.

If Snyder and Sweetwater go west then that could leave:

Wylie, Brownwood, Stephenville, Graham in the same District.

:1omg!: :1omg!: :1omg!:

hollywood

10-21-2009, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by 95mustang
If Snyder and Sweetwater go west then that could leave:

Wylie, Brownwood, Stephenville, Graham in the same District.

:1omg!: :1omg!: :1omg!:

Yep, Brownwood and Stephenville would be the front runners in that district. Wylie and Graham would lose almost all their starters to graduation while Brownwood and Stephenville are both real young.

injuredinmelee

10-21-2009, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by 95mustang
If Snyder and Sweetwater go west then that could leave:

Wylie, Brownwood, Stephenville, Graham in the same District.

:1omg!: :1omg!: :1omg!:

and we thought this last realignment made a tough district...

injuredinmelee

10-21-2009, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by Bullaholic
Give us Everman....we want Everman...:D

NO WE DONT... NO WE DONT

ccmom

10-21-2009, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by hollywood
Yep, Brownwood and Stephenville would be the front runners in that district. Wylie and Graham would lose almost all their starters to graduation while Brownwood and Stephenville are both real young.

Yeah...losing starters to graduation has always just killed Wylie. One day maybe they will have some depth. :rolleyes: :D

slingshot

10-21-2009, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Oh man. Looks like Big Spring is gonna drop. I hope not because that could possibly mean Sweetwater gets pulled west into a crappy district. I'm guessing Sweetwater, Big Spring, Snyder, Andrews, Lamesa, and Seminole. Blah! Just sustitute Monahans for Seminole and that is your old 4A district from the 90's... Except Big Spring is the top dog this time around ;) .

injuredinmelee

10-21-2009, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by ccmom
Yeah...losing starters to graduation has always just killed Wylie. One day maybe they will have some depth. :rolleyes: :D

why you got be sarcastic on a wed morning? :clap: :clap: :clap:

STANG RED

10-21-2009, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by hollywood
Yep, Brownwood and Stephenville would be the front runners in that district. Wylie and Graham would lose almost all their starters to graduation while Brownwood and Stephenville are both real young.

Somehow that never seems to matter with Wylie. Going into 2004, even many of the Wylie faithful were saying it would be a rebuilding year. They ended up winning state. Not bad for a rebuilding year.

injuredinmelee

10-21-2009, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by STANG RED
Somehow that never seems to matter with Wylie. Going into 2004, even many of the Wylie faithful were saying it would be a rebuilding year. They ended up winning state. Not bad for a rebuilding year.
that was a very special group of kids. IF Wylie and Snyder dont end up in the same district I wonder if Rogers will duck Wylie again???

Pendragon13

10-21-2009, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by STANG RED
Somehow that never seems to matter with Wylie. Going into 2004, even many of the Wylie faithful were saying it would be a rebuilding year. They ended up winning state. Not bad for a rebuilding year. I've always been impressed by how the latest crop of Wylie varsity seems to step up to the challenge...even if they weren't exactly blowing everyone away at the Freshman/JV levels. I grew up in the metroplex, and I've never seen the level of participation in ALL sports higher than it is here. With the possible exception of Southlake Carroll in their heyday.:eek:

hollywood

10-21-2009, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by ccmom
Yeah...losing starters to graduation has always just killed Wylie. One day maybe they will have some depth. :rolleyes: :D

Oh come on ccmom, I didn't say Wylie would be way down or suck or anything like that. :rolleyes: With Stephenville and Brownwood both only starting a couple of seniors, it just goes to reason that they would be in a better position to run the table in the proposed district than Wylie. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings, sheesh.:D To be honest, I thought this years Stephenville and Wylie teams would be a good match up. BUT, after watching Stephenville last week against Everman, Stephenville would be too much.

mwynn05

10-21-2009, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by injuredinmelee
that was a very special group of kids. IF Wylie and Snyder dont end up in the same district I wonder if Rogers will duck Wylie again??? its not that simple injured....these non districy schedules are usually set before the alignment comes out they just cant be official

STANG RED

10-21-2009, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by slingshot
Just sustitute Monahans for Seminole and that is your old 4A district from the 90's... Except Big Spring is the top dog this time around ;) .

You'd have to throw Ft. Stockton and Pecos in the mix as well. And I think Lamesa dropped to 3a in the early 80s. And if history repeats, as it usually does, Big Spring will be back to their losing ways again in no time.

Sville

10-21-2009, 05:16 PM

The current 3A cutoff is 979. It would have to raise by 54 for Sville to move down, in the last 6 realignments the 3A cutoff number increased by 80 in 1998, by 65 in 2000, by 55 in 2002, by 0 in 2004, by 50 in 2006, and by 30 2008.

realignment data (http://uil.utexas.edu/athletics/pdf/biennial-reclass-data%20.pdf)

piratebg

10-21-2009, 05:30 PM

Rockport-Fulton is on the bubble. According to the 4A guys they turned in 983.

Matthew328

10-21-2009, 05:51 PM

They'll drop

ccmom

10-21-2009, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by hollywood
Oh come on ccmom, I didn't say Wylie would be way down or suck or anything like that. :rolleyes: With Stephenville and Brownwood both only starting a couple of seniors, it just goes to reason that they would be in a better position to run the table in the proposed district than Wylie. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings, sheesh.:D To be honest, I thought this years Stephenville and Wylie teams would be a good match up. BUT, after watching Stephenville last week against Everman, Stephenville would be too much.

Hurt MY feelings? :doh: Hearing a Brownwood poster talk about "The Wood" being a frontrunner is nothing new. Actually, it's like music to my ears! :D :p

tigerfan09

10-21-2009, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by Move The Chains
Lol. They'd get home WAY late.

I hate to say this, but could you imagine a Friday night football game between Wharton and LaMarque?

Trashman

10-21-2009, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by 95mustang
If Snyder and Sweetwater go west then that could leave:

Wylie, Brownwood, Stephenville, Graham in the same District.

:1omg!: :1omg!: :1omg!:

Mineral Wells could end up in that district as well....:thinking:

Daddy D 11

10-21-2009, 06:56 PM

Wylie, Brownwood, Stephenville, Graham, Mineral Wells and who would be the other team? Or 2?

LH?:devil:

DukeNukem

10-21-2009, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Oh man. Looks like Big Spring is gonna drop. I hope not because that could possibly mean Sweetwater gets pulled west into a crappy district. I'm guessing Sweetwater, Big Spring, Snyder, Andrews, Lamesa, and Seminole. Blah!

Crappy Distict??? How many of those teams has Sweetwater beat this year. Ya'll would probably beat Lamesa this year, but of the 3 S-water has already faced, they got beat.

95mustang

10-21-2009, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by DukeNukem
Crappy Distict??? How many of those teams has Sweetwater beat this year. Ya'll would probably beat Lamesa this year, but of the 3 S-water has already faced, they got beat.

I believe he was referring to the overall competition year in and year out (not just this year). There have been some talented teams come out of that area just not on a consistant basis. Excluding Monahans they usually have a talented team.

Trashman

10-21-2009, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Wylie, Brownwood, Stephenville, Graham, Mineral Wells and who would be the other team? Or 2?

LH?:devil:

I'm thinking Bridgeport or Sweetwater.:thinking:

95mustang

10-21-2009, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Trashman
I'm thinking Bridgeport or Sweetwater.:thinking:

Stephenville to Sweetwater is a haul. Brownwood to Bridgeport is too, but it would definitely be interesting.

SintonFan

10-21-2009, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by Bullaholic
That was for Matthew's benefit since he picked my Bulls to lose by a bunch to several teams earlier in the year. I was hoping that Everman would drop out of that 'creampuff' division they are in and come back down where they play football.

Sinton would have been state champions in '01 if it weren't for Everman. Heck, Burnet later on too.
But you couldn't lose to a better, classier team though.:)

BwdLions

10-22-2009, 04:25 PM

Here's what a poster on DFWhssports.com said about the Ville possibly moving to 3A next realignment.

"Dropping to 3A would certainly be beneficial for the Ville. We would dominate in football but more importantly, all our other athletic programs would really be able to compete and maybe even excel."

:stirpot:

Sweetwater Red

10-22-2009, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by DukeNukem
Crappy Distict??? How many of those teams has Sweetwater beat this year. Ya'll would probably beat Lamesa this year, but of the 3 S-water has already faced, they got beat.

So which town of the ones I mentioned are you from? Lol

Be honest. How many perennial powerhouses do you see in that
"district"?

cl1481

10-22-2009, 07:01 PM

If Stephenville drops they could also go east to district 7.

maroogreen

10-22-2009, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by crabman
The last cutoff was 976 (Alvarado, I think). That number usually creeps up a bit. That kind of sucks that we have 592 and will compete with schools over 1,000.

Do you realize that only 10-11 years ago, our student population was 750?

maroogreen

10-22-2009, 09:21 PM

There is an ugly rumor that one of the new Victoria ISD schools may have 3A numbers. Personally, I doubt it, but I haven't seen the numbers with the new split lately.

Old Green

10-22-2009, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by maroogreen
Do you realize that only 10-11 years ago, our student population was 750? I know. It's hard to believe our population is shrinking. Have friends who have moved away another that may move in the next month. When he does, it will pull four more students out the district.

STANG RED

10-22-2009, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by 95mustang
Stephenville to Sweetwater is a haul. Brownwood to Bridgeport is too, but it would definitely be interesting.

We used to play Stephenville nearly every year in the late 80s and 90s. It was actually a pretty rivalry for a while there. Many of those years, we played them before district, and again in the playoffs. Good times!

Black_Magic

10-23-2009, 09:18 AM

I hear Bushland up north may have the #s to mover from 2a to 3a. they are a good team. Anyone have thier offical #?