Region III GotW: Carthage @ Jasper [Archive]

lostaussie

10-17-2009, 10:15 AM

big game for both..........district championship on the line. but, i think both teams have much higher aspirations. should be a great game and i think we will find out alot about both. my thoughts on game.............i think Jasper will need a couple of good breaks to pull this one out but than could happen. sometimes good teams make their own luck. Carthage 31 Jasper 27..............go Jasper stop that long winning streak!!!!!

saint76

10-17-2009, 12:05 PM

Other that Jasper's opening loss in which the Dawgs turned the ball over to Gilmer 3 or 4 times inside their own 35, I believe Jasper is in the + column on take-aways. In addition, Jasper has something this year that they have only had once or twice in my memory over the last 35 years...a Field Goal kicker.....that's right Field Goals..PATS...Jasper....they don't go together in same sentence do they? Against good competition (Kirbyville, WOS, Silsbee) Jasper has reduced turn-overs, increased take-aways, and the kicking game has played a very important roll. This TEAM continues to improve and mature each week. Close games and coming from behind in the 4th Qtr does not seem to bother this bunch of kids.......THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN..... If the game is a blow-out, then one or the other made two many mistakes. If it's a close game, I will take the Jasper version of the Bulldawgs over the Carthage version.

I'm not going to sit at home an listen to this one, we'll be at the Dawg House on Friday for fire works!!

Pudlugger

10-17-2009, 12:36 PM

This is one of the bigger match ups in week 8. Jasper has a real opportunity to make a statement and I think they will do just that. Jasper by a td or so.

LE Dad

10-17-2009, 01:40 PM

Jasper.... By a field goal:D

jdawg2012

10-17-2009, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by JasperDog94
Surely this will be the Region 3 game of the week.:)

I'm thinkin 3A game of the week!!

jdawg2012

10-17-2009, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by saint76
Other that Jasper's opening loss in which the Dawgs turned the ball over to Gilmer 3 or 4 times inside their own 35, I believe Jasper is in the + column on take-aways. In addition, Jasper has something this year that they have only had once or twice in my memory over the last 35 years...a Field Goal kicker.....that's right Field Goals..PATS...Jasper....they don't go together in same sentence do they? Against good competition (Kirbyville, WOS, Silsbee) Jasper has reduced turn-overs, increased take-aways, and the kicking game has played a very important roll. This TEAM continues to improve and mature each week. Close games and coming from behind in the 4th Qtr does not seem to bother this bunch of kids.......THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN..... If the game is a blow-out, then one or the other made two many mistakes. If it's a close game, I will take the Jasper version of the Bulldawgs over the Carthage version.

I'm not going to sit at home an listen to this one, we'll be at the Dawg House on Friday for fire works!!

On the takeaways they have 14 INT's on the year!!!

j_dog

10-17-2009, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by jdawg2012
On the takeaways they have 14 INT's on the year!!!
And one player has at least 8 of those interceptions! :clap: (Don't know how he did last night.)

Better keep the ball out of his territory. What is his territory? All over the field! ;)

HEMOTOXIC

10-17-2009, 04:36 PM

Give me the Dawgs...Jasper Dawgs that is!

j_dog

10-17-2009, 04:56 PM

Carthage 11 47.83%
Jasper 12 52.17%

At 4:53 on 10-17-09 Jasper is a slight favorite? :eek:

Must be a lot of homer votes here! :doh: :thinking:

On paper, Jasper has little chance playing the defending state champions. But go little Dogs! :clap:

pirate4state

10-17-2009, 05:25 PM

I'll be rooting for Jasper! :cheerl:

navscanmaster

10-17-2009, 05:36 PM

Go Jasper! You guys sure have your hands full with Carthage, but they are beatable. A few teams have come close this year, but have either failed to get the stop or awakened the Dawg defense at the last minute somehow. I think Jasper has the best shot and scenario to upset the defending champs of any team this year. But it will take great execution and discipline.

Jasper 33, Carthage 31

jdawg2012

10-17-2009, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by j_dog
Carthage 11 47.83%
Jasper 12 52.17%

At 4:53 on 10-17-09 Jasper is a slight favorite? :eek:

Must be a lot of homer votes here! :doh: :thinking:

On paper, Jasper has little chance playing the defending state champions. But go little Dogs! :clap:

Carthage 11 45.83%
Jasper 13 54.17%

At 10:40 P.M. on 10-17-09 Jasper has a slightly larger favor!:)

On the field, Jasper has a very good chance of beating the former state champs. GO DAWGS!

oldtownag

10-18-2009, 09:19 AM

Jasper has home field.
Carthage has a few key players with injury.
Carthage has played a much tougher schedule.
Carthage has a better coach.
Carthage has the experience in big games.
Carthage has the big O & D linemen.

I guess everyone on here likes the underdog but Carthage will win.

Carthage 38 - Jasper 14

:p

WOS1

10-18-2009, 11:02 AM

"Carthage has played a much tougher schedule."

No way!

OldBison75

10-18-2009, 11:42 AM

Jasper has the athletes to make a big run in this game and can match up with the boys from Carthage on both sides of the ball. I think the speed of Jasper will be the difference. That and those T-Rex armed lineman that can outquick and outmuscle a bunch of people. If the Jasper dogs avoid the turnover bug, they win by 7.

Oh, by the way, the comment about Carthage having better coaching may be a little premature. Remember, this is a first year head coach for Jasper and the only time they have had difficulty is the first game against Gilmer. They have learned a new system and new coach very fast and this looks like the great teams that Jasper has had in the past. This coach knows how to win and how to motivate--Jasper coaching is better than you believe.

R3Editor

10-18-2009, 12:10 PM

rename title to "Region III GOTW: Carthage @ Jasper" and stick please.

jdawg2012

10-18-2009, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by oldtownag
Jasper has home field.
Carthage has a few key players with injury.
Carthage has played a much tougher schedule.
Carthage has a better coach.
Carthage has the experience in big games.
Carthage has the big O & D linemen.

I guess everyone on here likes the underdog but Carthage will win.

Carthage 38 - Jasper 14

:p

There is NO WAY Carthage has a tougher schedule. Jasper's first three games were against high state ranked opponents!

Gilmer #1 - 3A
Kirbyville #2 - 2A
WO-S #3 - 3A

AND they won 2 of those!!!

oldtownag

10-18-2009, 03:42 PM

Gilmer is good and they rolled Jasper.

Kirbyville 2A vs. Henderson, Kilgore, & Jacksonville from 4A - No comparison

WO-S is having a bit of trouble this year last time I checked vs. Atlanta is a wash.

The last Massie ratings had Carthage with the #5 schedule and Jasper with #3. I submit that the reason Jasper is ranked higher is because Carthage is on the schedule!

This will be a war and both teams should be better prepaired for the playoffs win or lose!

j_dog

10-18-2009, 09:06 PM

War yes. Even worse, it will be anothe slobberknocker! Jasper is good at those. :) ;)

j_dog

10-18-2009, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by OldBison75
.....That and those T-Rex armed lineman .....
Forgot about t-rex. J Dogs win. :)

btw, rumor has it that the lines are a bit bigger than the ones Navasota saw a couple years ago.

OldBison75

10-18-2009, 09:16 PM

Yeah jdog, I have heard that Jasper has better size this year but has not lost quickness. And it just amazes me that those short armed lineman can keep such good contact with the defensive lineman of the opposition. You know that the trex had super strength in the lower body and I guess that is the key.

j_dog

10-18-2009, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by OldBison75
Yeah jdog, I have heard that Jasper has better size this year but has not lost quickness. And it just amazes me that those short armed lineman can keep such good contact with the defensive lineman of the opposition. You know that the trex had super strength in the lower body and I guess that is the key.
the real, genuine advantage is this:

it is impossible for them to hold! avoids a lot of penalties.

defensively, I suspect this version might be a tad quicker than the slow ones you saw.

cntdwn

10-19-2009, 11:52 AM

Was Caldwell ever in a hand-picked GOTW?

OldBison75

10-19-2009, 12:19 PM

No. Caldwell never gets picked for GOTW because they never get the respect they deserve, JUST ASK THEM.

cntdwn

10-19-2009, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by OldBison75
No. Caldwell never gets picked for GOTW because they never get the respect they deserve, JUST ASK THEM.

I told you when they BEAT Navasota, they'd get a few lousy consolation AP points and end up No. 22 or something. But I was too harsh. They ranked us 19th.

MY BAD!

OldBison75

10-19-2009, 12:56 PM

And, I think that both Navasota and Caldwell are ranked pretty close to where they both should be right now. Both could end up much better later.

OldBison75

10-19-2009, 01:01 PM

OH, BY THE WAY, JASPER WINS THIS WEEK.

j_dog

10-19-2009, 02:41 PM

Finally some sanity. Carthage eases into the poll lead, where a defending state champion should be:

Carthage 22 51.16%
Jasper 21 48.84%

jdawg2012

10-19-2009, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by j_dog
Finally some sanity. Carthage eases into the poll lead, where a defending state champion should be:

Carthage 22 51.16%
Jasper 21 48.84%

And now they're not!

Carthage 22 48.89%
Jasper 23 51.11%

j_dog

10-19-2009, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by jdawg2012
And now they're not!

Carthage 22 48.89%
Jasper 23 51.11%
I guess a lot of people just like to pick the underDOG. ;) But that will not put any points on the scoreboard Friday night. Jasper will have its hands full. :eek:

OldBison75

10-20-2009, 09:11 PM

Notice that the polls are even, about the way I see the game. If Jasper can avoid turnovers, they can win this game. Don't be surprised if the final score dosen't even add up to 24. Jasper wins by three, maybe 13-10.

j_dog

10-21-2009, 12:19 AM

Carthage 24 48.98%
Jasper 25 51.02%

I am just amazed still at this poll. :eek: Carthage is the second ranked team in the state for gosh sakes. Carthage blew Jasper right off the field last year.

JHS_c/o_06'

10-21-2009, 04:05 AM

Originally posted by OldBison75
those T-Rex armed lineman

I'm so glad that stuck, i feel like a proud father.

btw....i have that trademarked...that will be $40.

bevo

10-21-2009, 11:56 PM

Jasper by a close one!

31-28...

j_dog

10-22-2009, 10:15 AM

A dead heat going on Thursday!

Carthage 28 50.00%
Jasper . . 28 50.00%

The question remains though, does Jasper REALLY have a chance? Must be a lot of homers on this thread. :confused:

oldtownag

10-22-2009, 12:05 PM

Looks like we have me and a bunch of realist vs. a bunch of Jasper homers on this poll.

waterboy

10-22-2009, 03:37 PM

Okay, I'm going to give my unsolicited opinion.:D I know I picked WO-S over Jasper a few weeks ago, and Jasper beat the Mustangs,.......so I'm picking Carthage to beat Jasper by around 11 points.

:nerd:

You Jasper folk can thank me AFTER the game.;)

j_dog

10-22-2009, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by oldtownag
Looks like we have me and a bunch of realist vs. a bunch of Jasper homers on this poll.
The realists have surged into the lead!

Carthage 32 51.61%
Jasper 30 48.39%

j_dog

10-22-2009, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by waterboy
Okay, I'm going to give my unsolicited opinion.:D I know I picked WO-S over Jasper a few weeks ago, and Jasper beat the Mustangs,.......so I'm picking Carthage to beat Jasper by around 11 points.

:nerd:

You Jasper folk can thank me AFTER the game.;)
That's okay if you are willing to be on the "losing" side just to help Jasper. ;)

Mojado

10-22-2009, 10:13 PM

I love east Tx football... My .02...

Jasper 10
Carthage 7

Carthage lost their QB from last year, 3rd string RB tottin the mail, average recievers at best, out of shotgun and under center. Jasper running game eats clock..

Both D's are for REAL!!!

jdawg2012

10-23-2009, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by Mojado
I love east Tx football... My .02...

Jasper 10
Carthage 7

Carthage lost their QB from last year, 3rd string RB tottin the mail, average recievers at best, out of shotgun and under center. Jasper running game eats clock..

Both D's are for REAL!!!

This is praly the most unbiased post on here. And I think its all true, I know the Jasper part is but I dont know about Carthage.

Mojado

10-23-2009, 08:58 AM

And I almosr forgot...

In Jasper... My rules say true homefield advantage = 1 turnover and 6 points before visitors get off the bus...

And everyone knows Jasper is a tough place to play...

Good luck to both...

oldtownag

10-23-2009, 12:20 PM

I have it on good word that the Carthage RB might make a return appearance tonight!;)

oldtownag

10-23-2009, 08:02 PM

0 - 0 at end of 1st Q

Both teams have threatened. Jasper had short field goal blocked. Carthage was intercepted at 10 yard line.

Buckeye1980

10-23-2009, 08:21 PM

Jasper 3 Carthage 0

6:28 left in half

oldtownag

10-23-2009, 08:31 PM

Carthage 7 - Jasper 3 at half

hollywood

10-23-2009, 08:52 PM

What a tight game. Who has momentum?

oldtownag

10-23-2009, 09:23 PM

Carthage 14 - Jasper 3 in 3rd

oldtownag

10-23-2009, 09:43 PM

Carthage 21 - Jasper 3

8 minutes left.

oldtownag

10-23-2009, 09:58 PM

Carthage 27 - Jasper 3

Carthage physically dominated the 2nd half.

Carthage total yds:359

Jasper total yds: 65

Jasper had only 2 yds in the 2nd half

Hupernikomen

10-24-2009, 12:30 AM

Congrats to Carthage. The better team won.

Nice recognition of j94's dad before the game.

WOS87

10-24-2009, 12:32 AM

Jasper better watch out for Center and Rusk... they are far from being a shoe-in for making the playoffs

j_dog

10-24-2009, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by WOS87
Jasper better watch out for Center and Rusk... they are far from being a shoe-in for making the playoffs
Absolutely true! Jasper is in a tough district.

Congrats Carthage. You had by far the best team.

Daddy B 12

10-24-2009, 01:10 AM

I knew Carthage's D was too good.

oldtownag

10-24-2009, 10:42 AM

Maybe the bulldogs will start getting some respect around here.

Hupernikomen

10-24-2009, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by oldtownag
Maybe the bulldogs will start getting some respect around here.

Respect = number of poster on most message boards. Carthage gets plenty of respect on Smoaky where they have most of their posters. Just not many here to talk about Carthage.

JasperDog94

10-24-2009, 03:43 PM

This game was won on the line. Carthage blocked Jasper well and Jasper couldn't move Cathage's defensive line at all. It was just a matter of time before Carthage went ahead. They are most definitely the better team.

Good luck the rest of the way.:)