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dawg4life
09-30-2009, 06:23 PM
Sports Illustrated- He is the Sidd Finch of college football, a player so talented and productive it's almost impossible to believe he's real.

But Texas A&M junior quarterback Jerrod Johnson is very real. And despite carrying a team with less talent and more freshmen than all the hyped-up Heisman-watch names, Johnson is making a stronger early-season case for the stiff-arm statue than anyone.

His story -- how he's become one of the most mature and grounded athletes in big-time sports -- is equally inspiring.

You wouldn't know it, however, unless you took the time to drive to College Station to catch a glimpse of this kid who has run like Terrelle Pryor, led like Colt McCoy, thrown like Sam Bradford. Teammates and coaches respect his tough-mindedness and character as much as so many fans admire Tim Tebow's.
But television cameras have not followed Johnson's every move. In fact, they have not followed any of them. Not one of Johnson's monstrous games this season has been televised. The director in the truck has not demanded that cameras capture every facial expression and emotion of Johnson's mother, girlfriend or neighbors. Brent Musberger has not cooed over Johnson's greatness or made it seem that when he traipses effortlessly over football turf he could just as well be walking on water. Thom Brennaman has not gushed over spending five or 20 minutes with Johnson, saying your life would be better for it.

As one Austin columnist put it after watching Johnson run for three touchdowns and pass for three more in a 56-19 pasting of Alabama-Birmingham on Saturday, "Stick [Johnson] in Tim Tebow's uniform, and after the numbers he put up ... the Heisman race would be over."

Johnson's coming out party figures to come this Saturday, when the 3-0 Aggies take on Arkansas at Cowboys Stadium. And when America finally does say hello to Jerrod Johnson, a.k.a. Sidd, chances are it will want to pay attention to what college football truly is all about.

Johnson doesn't drink, and never has tried anything stronger than Advil when it comes to drugs. His name is often misspelled or mispronounced. It's Jerrod, as in ja-ROD. He is compared, foolishly, to Vince Young or JaMarcus Russell, mostly because he is a big quarterback and black. He is more polished as a passer, a smooth runner and often the smartest player on the field.

He made an early impression, literally, on the Aggies program over the summer as he entered his first full season as the starting quarterback. He woke up at 5 a.m. everyday for boot camp-type workouts. He telephoned incoming freshman and encouraged them to meet for 7-on-7 and 11-on-11 practices with veterans. He held meetings with every offensive player, meticulously using a laser pointer to go over individual assignments on every play in the Aggies playbook.

Johnson has put a once-great football program that finished 4-8 a year ago on his shoulders. He leads the nation's No. 1 offense in coach Mike Sherman's second year in Aggieland, and through leadership and on-field production, he is carrying the Aggies back to respectability.

Comparisons? He averages twice as many passing yards (320.3 to 160.7) as Tebow.
He has three times more rushing yards (196 to 61), more rushing touchdowns (4 to 1) and a higher passer rating (167.0 to 150.9) than McCoy.
He's thrown more touchdown passes (9), with a higher completion percentage (67.5), than Ryan Mallett, Jacory Harris and Terrelle Pryor.
He averages more total offense per game (385.6) than Taylor Potts, Jimmy Clausen and Todd Reesing. His passer rating is higher than Case Keenum's, Zac Robinson's and Max Hall's. He accounts for more points per game (26.0) than any other player in America. He ranks in the top 11 nationally in every passing category, as well as in total offense (third behind quarterbacks Greg Alexander of Hawaii and Case Keenum of Houston).

He stands 6-foot-6 and weighs 245 pounds. He is a powerful runner with a deceptive and long stride. He can throw the ball 70 yards, with ease. At the Peyton Manning camp over the summer, he beat McCoy, Bradford, Greg McElroy and a couple dozen other Division I quarterbacks in a passing skills competition. At the camp, the Manning family patriarch, Archie, told Johnson, "You have it all."

And in just three games in 2009, Johnson has thrown for 1,157 yards, rushed for those four touchdowns, passed for nine and thrown zero interceptions. Zero. He has started just 13 games in his collegiate career, but is on pace to obliterate long-standing Aggies records.

Already, he has posted four of the school's top nine single-game total offense performances. He has four of the top six all-time single-game passing marks (a career-high 419 against Kansas State last year). He already has established the single-season record for touchdowns (24) and is on pace to become the all-time completions percentage leader.
His is Sidd-like in every way.

Growing up in the Houston suburb of -- appropriately -- Humble, Texas, he was considered a pro prospect in baseball and basketball. As a sophomore in high school, Johnson clocked 90-mph on the radar gun with his fastball. As a junior in high school, Johnson earned a basketball scholarship to A&M. Current Marquette coach Buzz Williams, a former assistant at A&M, said of Johnson shortly after his commitment in 2005, "he could start for us right now."

But there's more to Jerrod than numbers and skills.
He is the son of a high school teacher and high school administrator. Pam and Larry Johnson's faith and compassion ran so deep they took in nearly two dozen foster children while Jerrod and his brother, Marquis, were growing up. When Jerrod was 3, the state took custody of the child of one of Pam's friend. Pam's heart broke at the thought of the child, a boy named Kendall, not having a home. Larry and Pam went through foster parent training and raised the child until the state found a permanent home.
From then on, the Johnsons gave foster children everything they could -- holiday parties, gifts, vacations, a church home, a family's love. They accepted kids of every age, so long as they were boys.

Some of the children were infants. Some were young teens. Some were children of crack and heroine addicts. Some suffered from severe developmental and health issues. Some simply were abandoned. Some were black, some were white, some were Hispanic. It never mattered.

"We didn't care if they were special kids, overweight, sick, and we didn't see color," Pam said. "We didn't talk about any of that in our family. We're all related. It doesn't matter what color."

The children did everything with Jerrod and Marquis, a former Prairie View A&M end now coaching strength and conditioning at Eastern Michigan. The boys treated the kids like family, playing with them, kidding them, shooting hoops, teaching them dance moves or songs, helping with homework.

"Some people told me that by taking on all these kids, some with [behavioral] problems, that it would rub off on my kids and they would be problems," Pam said. "The opposite happened. It taught our boys to value family."

Some foster children stayed with the Johnsons for years. One such child, Joey, suffered from DiGeorge Syndrome, a degenerative neuromuscular organ and growth condition. Joey loved to dance and became very close with Jerrod, who has a deep love for music and dancing. Not long after Jerrod left for College Station as a freshman, Joey suffered heart failure as Pam was leaving for work and died in her arms.
Another boy, Joe, was part of the family for nine years, longer than any other, and was like a brother to Jerrod and Marquis. Joe was diagnosed with developmental issues, but Pam didn't buy it. She gradually reduced the amount of medication Joe took, while Marquis and Jerrod taught him how to play basketball. Joe made the varsity basketball team at Smiley High in Houston, where Pam taught, graduated high school and lives in a group home in the Houston area.

With deeds as much as words, Larry and Pam taught their sons to accept everything and everyone. And to take nothing for granted.

Larry took on extra jobs to help pay for all the expenses of raising his boys and foster kids. A former Texas A&M safety and wide receiver, Johnson became one of the Humble area's most beloved coaches and administrators.

When Jerrod played elite summer-league basketball from 2002 to 2005, helping a Houston hoops team reach the AAU Elite Eight three consecutive years and the Final Four once, Larry Johnson was a volunteer assistant coach. The travel team featured such future Division I players as Johnson, Arizona point guard Nic Wise, Nevada-Las Vegas forward Darris Santee, TCU guard Jason Ebie, Texas Tech forward Mike Singletary, Bucknell wing Stephen Tyree and Rice footballer Pierre Beasley. Yet while all that front-line talent scrimmaged during practices, Larry Johnson often took bench players to the other end of the gym to work on rebounding, shooting, footwork. Everyone mattered.

The lessons stuck with Jerrod. When he woke before dawn to work out and organize meetings and scrimmages in the summer, he made sure every player on the Aggies depth chart and walk-ons got calls. At his 21st birthday in July, Johnson and his friends organized a party at a College Station nightclub. College kids acted like college kids all night. And Jerrod sang, danced and partied, but he drank only sports drinks and juice. He has, however, promised Aggies teammates that if they make it to the Big 12 title game, he will, "take a sip" of some wine or champagne.

The college football world is about to become impressed with what Jerrod Johnson has become. The one person he most wishes could be at Cowboys Stadium to watch the next step in this marvelous season, however, will not be there.

In December 2007 while the Aggies were preparing for the Alamo Bowl and just months before starting his first game at quarterback, Jerrod received a call from his brother. He said he needed to come home because Larry was in the hospital. It was only after Jerrod arrived that he realized his father had suffered a massive stroke.

Even until his final few breaths, Larry Johnson was trying to help kids do things the right way. A former Humble High student called "Mr. Johnson" asking for advice on transferring to another college on that Saturday afternoon. Jerrod clicked in to talk with his father. Then, Pam's mother clicked in.
As Larry Johnson handed the phone to Pam, he mumbled something. He then collapsed to the floor. Two days later, Larry died with his sons and wife by his side.

At Larry's funeral, Jerrod spoke in detail of the lessons his father taught him. Marquis did an impeccable, humorous impersonation of how his boisterous, affable father would implore kids to always do the right thing. On the front row of the church sitting next to Pam was Joe, the Foster child who spent nine years with the family.

After the service, hundreds of former players and students greeted the family and shared stories of how "Mr. Johnson" affected their lives. A year later, the basketball court at Humble High was renamed Larry Johnson Court.

On a recent Saturday evening in College Station, Pam Johnson walked into Kyle Field with her mother and two young children -- a 3-year-old Hispanic boy named Anthony and a 2-year-old black child named Trey. Both of their mothers are drug addicts. The babies were in awe of the game-day surroundings and all the people. They never had seen anything like it.

Larry Johnson never got to see his son start a college football game. But whenever Pam does, and every time someone else does, what they see is exactly what Larry Johnson wanted: a kid who treats everyone around him the same, no matter where they're from, what they look like or what's happened in the past.

It's how he became one of the best college football stories you never knew.



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/john_lopez/09/30/jerrod-johnson/index.html

Old Tiger
09-30-2009, 06:40 PM
http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98416

Dude on the first page

duckhunter
09-30-2009, 07:09 PM
Disagree........Tony Pike is the best player you dont know about

Old Dog
09-30-2009, 09:42 PM
Nothing like putting a little pressure on the kid!!!!

Move The Chains
09-30-2009, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Old Dog
Nothing like putting a little pressure on the kid!!!! Seriously!


We liked the whole anonymous and unranked thing. Don't bring us any kind of hype. We'll just quietly keep winning. :)

XtremeCouture
09-30-2009, 10:01 PM
this is the dumbest article. a&m has had the weakest schedule in the world.

BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
09-30-2009, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by XtremeCouture
this is the dumbest article. a&m has had the weakest schedule in the world.

Who have any of the other top ranked teams in the Big XII played? We didn't make the schedule, we just went out and did our job and did it effectively. Nobody is chastising Texas and their #2 ranking for playing Wyoming.

squid
09-30-2009, 10:17 PM
"Nobody is chastising Texas and their #2 ranking for playing Wyoming"

you must not read texags much.

BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
09-30-2009, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by squid
"Nobody is chastising Texas and their #2 ranking for playing Wyoming"

you must not read texags much.

I never read it, actually.

WylieBulldog92
09-30-2009, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
I never read it, actually.
How was Jerrod's birthday party?

BEAST
09-30-2009, 10:32 PM
AMEN BBDE. That was a great story. Any of you idiots downing the Fighting Texas Aggies after that article are just dumb.

GIG EM' AGGIES.

BEAT THE HELL OUTTA ARKANSAS!!!



BEAST

BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
09-30-2009, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by WylieBulldog92
How was Jerrod's birthday party?

I didn't go. When we have weekends off from football I go back home on Friday and work on the farm for my parents.

Move The Chains
09-30-2009, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by BEAST
AMEN BBDE. That was a great story. Any of you idiots downing the Fighting Texas Aggies after that article are just dumb.

GIG EM' AGGIES.

BEAT THE HELL OUTTA ARKANSAS!!!



BEAST I like you a lot more than I used to BEAST. :)

buff4life
09-30-2009, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by BEAST
AMEN BBDE. That was a great story. Any of you idiots downing the Fighting Texas Aggies after that article are just dumb.

GIG EM' AGGIES.

BEAT THE HELL OUTTA ARKANSAS!!!



BEAST

if it was about a longhorn i'm sure people would be downing their schedule too :rolleyes:

buff4life
09-30-2009, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by BEAST
AMEN BBDE. That was a great story. Any of you idiots downing the Fighting Texas A&M Aggies after that article are just dumb.

GIG EM' AGGIES.

BEAT THE HELL OUTTA ARKANSAS!!!



BEAST

Emerson1
09-30-2009, 10:59 PM
He's better then Vince Young.

Move The Chains
09-30-2009, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by Emerson1
He's better then Vince Young. He can throw better than Vince Young.

Hopefully he will win a NC too. :) :cool:

JHS_c/o_06'
10-01-2009, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by Emerson1
He's better then Vince Young.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

He didn't have his birthday party yet, it's not til December 25th.

Get ready for some Fightin' Texas Aggie turnovers come Thanksgiving Day.

NastySlot
10-01-2009, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by XtremeCouture
this is the dumbest article. a&m has had the weakest schedule in the world.


are you serious?.........who in your opinion in the big xii south has played a tough one?

NastySlot
10-01-2009, 09:01 AM
maybe osu...georgia, houston (only cause they are better then most thought they would be and when osu scheduled them) and they had grambling and rice though softens it up a little.

ou....byu, tulsa and miami..........but they did have idaho state.

texas...come on top tier team...playing monore, utep, ucf and oh a road game in wyoming.

baylor...wake, uconn nw state...kent is interesting?.....good schedule for baylor ...before the griffin injury.

tech..houston, nm, nd (not norte dame) and houston.



the weakest ???????????

GATAPride77
10-01-2009, 09:28 AM
this is the dumbest article. a&m has had the weakest schedule in the world.

Did you read the whole story? I bet dollars to donuts you did not.

Yes A&M has weak schedule and JJ has put up unreal numbers in those games. But the real story is about his dad, family values, and giving back to others.

Gsquared
10-05-2009, 08:36 AM
DOH!

Move The Chains
10-05-2009, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Gsquared
DOH! Not his fault. He had no time all night.And loads of dropped passes. One was a sure TD.

That's a "DOH."

Gsquared
10-05-2009, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Move The Chains
Not his fault. He had no time all night.And loads of dropped passes. One was a sure TD.

That's a "DOH."
There were alot of DOH's in that game.

westtxfballfan
10-05-2009, 12:51 PM
Houston Chronicle's Brent Zwerneman responded to the Lopez article in his blog last week. (If you go to link, scroll down for this entry.) He essentially says lets tap the brakes a little before we compare Johnson to those other QBs or allude to him being a Heisman candidate.


http://blogs.chron.com/aggies/


October 02, 2009
At least Aggies' Johnson is grounded
COLLEGE STATION — John Lopez is a friend, an award-winning writer and overall good guy.

Got that out of the way. John also let his emotions and close personal ties heavily influence his latest piece on SI.com about Texas A&M quarterback Jerrod Johnson.

John wrote about Jerrod this week on Sports Illustrated's Web site:

"He is the Sidd Finch of college football, a player so talented and productive it's almost impossible to believe he's real."
And:

"You wouldn't know it, however, unless you took the time to drive to College Station to catch a glimpse of this kid who has run like Terrelle Pryor, led like Colt McCoy, thrown like Sam Bradford. Teammates and coaches respect his tough-mindedness and character as much as so many fans admire Tim Tebow's."
And, above all:

"He is compared, foolishly, to Vince Young or JaMarcus Russell, mostly because he is a big quarterback and black. He is more polished as a passer, a smooth runner and often the smartest player on the field."
Lofty praise, indeed, for a quarterback who still has so much to prove -- something Jerrod will be the first to tell you.

Surprisingly, because I thought it would be an integral part of the story, John didn't mention in the SI.com piece that he was Jerrod's AAU basketball coach, that his son and Jerrod are tight and just how close the Lopez and Johnson families are. Below is from a recent weekly column John wrote for TexAgs.com:

"When Larry (Jerrod's father) was dying from a massive stroke in December of 2007, I stood next to his bed at the hospital and promised him I would always look out for his boys, Jerrod and Marquis."
John provides wonderful background on the amazing Johnson family in the SI.com piece, but I kept stumbling over his over-the-top praise of Jerrod's accomplishments to date.

Jerrod has the makings of a great quarterback, for sure, but he's still developing at the position, and I believe it's unfair to saddle him with such massive expectations -- especially when the competition is about to get a whole lot tougher.

The numbers Jerrod has put up this season have come against New Mexico, Utah State and Alabama-Birmingham, but that overall poor competition level wasn't part of John's argument in his lofty assessment of Jerrod, who owns a 6-7 record as a starter, among the game's recent greats. There's a reason the Aggies haven't been on TV -- and it has to do with their competition.

That schedule gets much harder starting Saturday against Arkansas, and time will tell if Jerrod is close to the men who've won Heismans (or come close) and national titles and been No. 1 overall draft picks in the NFL. For his sake, I hope so, because John is aces on this front: Jerrod is one of the best young men you'll ever meet.

The problem with heaping so much praise on him before he's actually accomplished, say, a Big 12 South victory in his career, is it sets Jerrod, who's still getting comfortable as starter, up for a downfall. By season's end, what otherwise might be considered a successful year might not be, as Jerrod continues to grow in this offense, based on John's overwhelmingly early exultation.

I asked Jerrod this week if he was ready to showcase his budding talents for a national TV audience. He smiled.

"I'm just going to do whatever I can to get our team a win," he said. "If you win games, everything else takes care of itself."

Now that's grounded.

I asked Jerrod's coach, Mike Sherman, the same question about his blossoming quarterback.

"That (notoriety) comes with time," Sherman said. "If you continue to do those things through the course of your career, people will recognize you. The great thing about Jerrod is he doesn't worry about it one bit. He's worried about the next ball game, and how he can help our team win.

"And that's the beauty of Jerrod Johnson."

• The Aggies drew the winners on Thursday night of the four students who will travel with the team today to Arlington, and stand on the sidelines a la E. King Gill: freshman Kayla Lawrence, freshman Jordan Jungman, senior Bradley Roensch and grad student Joe Kozlowski.

They better be careful. Sherman might put them in at left tackle.

Move The Chains
10-05-2009, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Gsquared
There were alot of DOH's in that game. agreed.

Gsquared
10-06-2009, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by Move The Chains
agreed.
I still think the Ags might be back on the way up.

BwdLions
10-06-2009, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Gsquared
I still think the Ags might be back on the way up.

How can anyone make this statement? They were just spanked by Arkiesaw on Sat. The ags were competitive for one quarter.

Move The Chains
10-06-2009, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by BwdLions
How can anyone make this statement? They were just spanked by Arkiesaw on Sat. The ags were competitive for one quarter. He said "on the way" back up.

Noone said they were top 25 material now.


We've got a great freshman class and a good core of players. It'll take time, but they'll get better.


Arkansas exposed a lot of weaknesses. Just because a team gets beat doesn't mean they can't get better.



Using the same logic, Brownwood must be done for the year and surely can't be "on the way up" because they got their asses handed to them by Stephenville. :rolleyes:

BwdLions
10-06-2009, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Move The Chains
He can throw better than Vince Young.

Hopefully he will win a NC too. :) :cool:

Are you talking about his arm motion compared to VY, or what? Don't even mention this kid in the same sentence as Vince. Now will he end of having a better college career than Vince? We'll see, but you guys that are comparing Johnson to Vince are nuts. I'm talking about VY and the career he had in college.

Move The Chains
10-06-2009, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by BwdLions
Are you talking about his arm motion compared to VY, or what? Don't even mention this kid in the same sentence as Vince. Now will he end of having a better college career than Vince? We'll see, but you guys that are comparing Johnson to Vince are nuts. I'm talking about VY and the career he had in college. Take into account the talent that VY had around him compared to Jerrod. A&M has good talent, but nothing compared to what Texas had in 05.

coach
10-06-2009, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by BwdLions
Are you talking about his arm motion compared to VY, or what? Don't even mention this kid in the same sentence as Vince. Now will he end of having a better college career than Vince? We'll see, but you guys that are comparing Johnson to Vince are nuts. I'm talking about VY and the career he had in college.

i hope not bc his arm motion was crap ;p;

Gsquared
10-06-2009, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by BwdLions
How can anyone make this statement? They were just spanked by Arkiesaw on Sat. The ags were competitive for one quarter.
Because last year and the year before, it would have been worse. No, I dont think the AGs will contend for a MNC anytime soon but they will be more competative. Anywho, I like many have an opinion from time to time and I like to share em sometimes. No hard feelins?

BwdLions
10-06-2009, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by coach
i hope not bc his arm motion was crap ;p;

I'd say it worked well for him during his high school and college careers.;)

BwdLions
10-06-2009, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Move The Chains
He said "on the way" back up.
Noone said they were top 25 material now.
:rolleyes:

I know what he said sport. Like I said in my response (use some brain cells when you read), they're not "on their way back" since they were spanked by a team that's not even in the top 25 themselves.

I'm not even responding to the Brownwood shot since we're not talking about them (or high school football) in this thread. Show some intellegence when you post next time.

Gsquared
10-06-2009, 10:54 AM
I think they are on thier way back to being competative. For the last few years, they werent exactly winning the games agains LA Tech etc.... On the way back is relative btw.

Move The Chains
10-06-2009, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by BwdLions
I know what he said sport. Like I said in my response (use some brain cells when you read), they're not "on their way back" since they were spanked by a team that's not even in the top 25 themselves.

I'm not even responding to the Brownwood shot since we're not talking about them (or high school football) in this thread. Show some intellegence when you post next time. The Brownwood reference was simple. Same thing. A&M got beat down. So did Brownwood.


A team had a bad game, big deal.

UH isn't going to be any better in the near future too then because they lost one game to UTEP. That ends all prospects of getting better and becoming decent, right?


One game is the end all for A&M, I guess.


Noone is denying they got beat down by Arkansas, but how can you say they won't get better? Just take a look at how many true freshman A&M has on the field. You're either blind or mentally handicapped.

Move The Chains
10-06-2009, 11:10 AM
nvm.

GreenMachine
10-06-2009, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by BwdLions
How can anyone make this statement? They were just spanked by Arkiesaw on Sat. The ags were competitive for one quarter. I think they are on the way back too. Starting to get some better recruits and they are young, but in a couple of years they will be a good football team. Let's see, UT gets the creme of the crop in recruiting every year, but seem to always lose the "big" one. It will happen again this year as they will lose at least one.

hookandladder
10-06-2009, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by GreenMachine
I think they are on the way back too. Starting to get some better recruits and they are young, but in a couple of years they will be a good football team. Let's see, UT gets the creme of the crop in recruiting every year, but seem to always lose the "big" one. It will happen again this year as they will lose at least one.

Why do aggies always compare themselves to Texas, try to be better than every college team. Texas does not try to be better than the aggies, they want to be the best in the nation yearin year out. Aggies need to have higher goals.

BreckTxLonghorn
10-06-2009, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by BwdLions
I know what he said sport. Like I said in my response (use some brain cells when you read), they're not "on their way back" since they were spanked by a team that's not even in the top 25 themselves.

I'm not even responding to the Brownwood shot since we're not talking about them (or high school football) in this thread. Show some intellegence when you post next time.

Part of showing 'intellegence' is being able to spell 'intelligence.'

Using that reasoning, in 2007 Texas should have been on its way down after losing by 20, at home, to a Kansas State team that ended up a blistering 5-7 for the year. This was the 3rd BigXII loss in a row (the streak would grow to 4, unheard of in the Mack era). But the O-line, and much of the team, was young - much like aTm now - and grew as the season went on, starting with a loss to OU that was much closer than anyone predicted; OU was expected to win handily. It ended with another 10 win season for the Horns, and since that game vs Oklahoma they have only lost 2 games (both on the road, both in-state rivalries).

A loss to a non-top-25 team, 'spanking' or not, does not determine whether a team is up or down. It simply becomes either part of a trend down or a growing pain on the season. It's okay to be objective sometimes.

BwdLions
10-06-2009, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by BreckTxLonghorn
Part of showing 'intellegence' is being able to spell 'intelligence.'

Using that reasoning, in 2007 Texas should have been on its way down after losing by 20, at home, to a Kansas State team that ended up a blistering 5-7 for the year. This was the 3rd BigXII loss in a row (the streak would grow to 4, unheard of in the Mack era). But the O-line, and much of the team, was young - much like aTm now - and grew as the season went on, starting with a loss to OU that was much closer than anyone predicted; OU was expected to win handily. It ended with another 10 win season for the Horns, and since that game vs Oklahoma they have only lost 2 games (both on the road, both in-state rivalries).

A loss to a non-top-25 team, 'spanking' or not, does not determine whether a team is up or down. It simply becomes either part of a trend down or a growing pain on the season. It's okay to be objective sometimes.

Thanks for pointing out my spelling error. I'll try to be more careful in the future. As far as being objective, the person I was jabbing with has gotten under my skin a little lately. That's the main reason I felt it necessary to argue. ;)

Move The Chains
10-06-2009, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by BwdLions
Thanks for pointing out my spelling error. I'll try to be more careful in the future. As far as being objective, the person I was jabbing with has gotten under my skin a little lately. That's the main reason I felt it necessary to argue. ;) Still unsure of what I've done to you??? Poking fun at Rocket and subsequently Brownwood?


They do make an "ignore" button. :rolleyes: If you don't like me, you don't have to read it.

navscanmaster
10-06-2009, 06:30 PM
Some people from both schools just hate the other school anyhow and will try to downplay or dismiss anything good the other school does. I actually remember a Longhorn fan (and I mean one that had nothing but burnt orange in his closet) in high school, the day after the bonfire tragedy, saying that "that is what they get for such a stupid tradition, like it helps them beat UT or something." He was serious. We blasted him mercilessly, regardless of our t-shirt fan affiliation, because that was a heartless, ignorant comment based purely on his hatred for a rival university. Just speculating, but I am sure that back in the 60's, there were probably some bad jokes from some Aggies about the Tower sniper.

People, I sat by the UAB fans at the Aggie game two weeks ago, and when the jumbotron showed the Alabama/Arkansas game, some of the UAB fans were booing Alabama. It made me think of this hatred some fans have for a rival school. I mean, Brenham was always our biggest rival when I was in school, and I pulled for them unless they were playing us. Partially because we grew up around the kids, partially because the better they were, the more prestigious a win was for either team come game time. Why can't it be that way for UT/A&M?

I cheered UT on when they won the NC. I cheer them on every week, provided they aren't playing my biggest favorites, A&M or Houston. UT is without a doubt our state's flagship football program, and our biggest college enrollment wise. If they don't do well, it brings down the entire state's image. Can we all agree that the better both of our state's two largest universities do athletically and academically, the better it is for Texas as a whole?:)

Hupernikomen
10-06-2009, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by GreenMachine
I think they are on the way back too. Starting to get some better recruits and they are young, but in a couple of years they will be a good football team. Let's see, UT gets the creme of the crop in recruiting every year, but seem to always lose the "big" one. It will happen again this year as they will lose at least one.

Every team in the country that gets the cream of the crop in their region/state lose at least one....well every team but one ...the nation champs for that year.

GreenMachine
10-07-2009, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Hupernikomen
Every team in the country that gets the cream of the crop in their region/state lose at least one....well every team but one ...the nation champs for that year. Not necessarilly... the national champs can have a loss too.

GreenMachine
10-07-2009, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by hookandladder
Why do aggies always compare themselves to Texas, try to be better than every college team. Texas does not try to be better than the aggies, they want to be the best in the nation yearin year out. Aggies need to have higher goals. I compared them to UT because a poster with a UT helmet in his/her sig was talking trash about the Aggies...Moron!