Region I GotW: Liberty Hill (2-2) vs. Burnet (2-2)

[R1Editor]

Who wins?

[IrishTex]

I'll go with Burnet. Should be a good game.

[LH762009]

Should be a good game, and will definately be very hard fought by both teams. BUT, I gotta go with my panthers in this one. Even though the game will start 7-0 bulldogs considering the game is being played IN Burnet ;)

[Gobbla2001]

This match-up reminds me of the Burnet vs. Kansas City Chiefs game in '03, it won't happen because LH will forfeit...

[LHexPlayer]

This game will NOT be as good as everyone wants it to be.

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by LHexPlayer
This game will NOT be as good as everyone wants it to be. meaning? who is kicking who's butt?

[garciap77]

LH wins this one!

[Daddy D 11]

Burnet sucks:devil:

[SHSBulldog00]

Burnet wins!!!

[Rocket]

Burnet's screen passes are going to eat LH's lunch. LH's offense is too predictable. Burnet rolls.

[OldBison75]

The look on paper makes this sound like a good hard fought game. LH is still trying to find the right combination to gel in that proven system. Unlike past years, the system is not flawless, but that can change quickly. No matter how predictable the LH system is, if it clicks it is damn hard to stop.

Burnet has a good team that always plays LH tough. The coaching staff seems to find ways to put on a good performance against the Panthers and this year will be no exception.

I think the Panthers offense will finally start to gel this week and produce some flashes of the past. It is the defense that I think might have a few problems with the Burnet Offense. That said, I think LH will score just enough to win 28-21.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Rocket
Burnet's screen passes are going to eat LH's lunch. LH's offense is too predictable. Burnet rolls.

Last year the screens ate our lunch too.

[Super_R]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Last year the screens ate our lunch too.

It seems like the screens eat our lunch every year. I think last years match-up between these 2 fine teams was harder on the fans than the players. My heart stopped several times in the last 2+ minutes.

[wimbo_pro]

if I HAD to choose a winner, Burnet wins...but its a tough call. Burnet wins if their defense steps up. We were able to run on them and win on the ground...if the same defensive performance shows up this week, then LH wins.

I really dont have a feel for LH's defense this year, but i think its safe to say it isnt as good as the previous years (based on talent that left). With this said, Burnet is probably going to air it out, and they have the talent to do it.

Good game, this one.

[Daddy B 12]

LH wins on a last second pass that is tipped by two burnet defenders and falls into the hands of a liberty hill reciever :p lol

[wimbo_pro]

As a monkey flies out his butt....

[ziggy29]

Originally posted by Daddy B 12
LH wins on a last second pass that is tipped by two burnet defenders and falls into the hands of a liberty hill reciever :p lol
The DBs can be drafted by the Bengals...

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by ziggy29
The DBs can be drafted by the Bengals...

Nice:clap:

Super R, I'll be in town Thursday night. Can a brother catch a lift to Burnet friday?

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Daddy B 12
LH wins on a last second pass that is tipped by two burnet defenders and falls into the hands of a liberty hill reciever :p lol

I already said that you dummy.

[Super_R]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Nice:clap:

Super R, I'll be in town Thursday night. Can a brother catch a lift to Burnet friday?

I should have room. We need to catch up on some things.

[fourbeee]

Burnet wins 21-14

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
This match-up reminds me of the Burnet vs. Kansas City Chiefs game in '03, it won't happen because LH will forfeit... hehe

Good Luck to the Panthers!

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Super_R
I should have room. We need to catch up on some things.

That we do.

[jockcity33]

Originally posted by Rocket
Burnet's screen passes are going to eat LH's lunch. LH's offense is too predictable. Burnet rolls.


Isn't LH running the same offense as they ran last year? If so then it shold have been "too predictable" last year also, and what happened when they played B'Wood.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by jockcity33
Isn't LH running the same offense as they ran last year? If so then it shold have been "too predictable" last year also, and what happened when they played B'Wood.

In the past, the talent LH has put on the field was far greater than any other team. So, even if the offense is predictable.. what are you going to do about it? You see what I'm saying. This year, it's a more even field with our opponents and now the predictability is something that helps the other team because they can actually slow it down. In years past, the QB could have said run up the middle and it still would have been 7-8 yards. Not so much anymore.


But, if Burnet is going to try and run the ball, things won't go well for them. If they pass, things will be better but the LH secondary isn't that bad at all!

The defense has never been the problem this year in my opinion. Between Esch (stud), Sadler (going to be stud) and Perrin (good DB), the Defense has done well enough in every single game for the Panthers to win. Unfortunately, things still seem to be a circus on the other side of the ball. Finding 3 backs and sticking with them I guess isn't what's going to happen. And until it does, the offense will not have the rhythm that it needs to be fully successful.

Oh, and where in the heck is LHPM??:mad: :thinking:

She's been pretty MIA as of late. Que Paso?:inlove:

[LHdog]

The Burnet defense just didn't play well against Wimberley and when QB Chafin went out the hip pointer in the 3rd quarter, that was the game. I expect a fanatical effort by the Burnet defense against the Panthers. DC Jones knows how to slow down the slot tee and it wouldn't suprise me to see a replay of the 08 game; another one right down to the wire.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11

The defense has never been the problem this year in my opinion.

You would know more than me, Daddy D11...and I guess I really don't know (or care) which one wins in this one...I think both of these teams are a threat to us making the play offs, so without having a crystal ball to know what the end of the season brings regarding records, let the chips fall, baby! We just need to worry about our own games!

[LE Dad]

Dang another LH thread. My bad D11:doh: Could have sworn it said Liberty Eylau.:rolleyes:

Oh well since I'm here I will make my pick.:clap:
I'm going with Burnet cause every time I pick LH ya'll lose. I figure this way I can't go wrong.

:D Go LH Panthers:clap: :clap:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Oh, and where in the heck is LHPM??:mad: :thinking:

She's been pretty MIA as of late. Que Paso?:inlove:
I had to go out of town to my Grandmothers' funeral. :(


Whassup? :kiss:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Dang another LH thread. My bad D11:doh: Could have sworn it said Liberty Eylau.:rolleyes:

Oh well since I'm here I will make my pick.:clap:
I'm going with Burnet cause every time I pick LH ya'll lose. I figure this way I can't go wrong.

:D Go LH Panthers:clap: :clap:

:1popcorn:

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
I had to go out of town to my Grandmothers' funeral. :(


Whassup? :kiss:

I'm sorry to hear that!

I want to hear what my partner in crime thinks about this one!

P.S- I'll be at this one! :cheerl:

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
I had to go out of town to my Grandmothers' funeral. :(


Whassup? :kiss:

Sorry to hear mom. Been there...its hard.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
I want to hear what my partner in crime thinks about this one!

I think that I need to think about this one a bit. :p (I'll add my $.015 in a day or two.)



Originally posted by Daddy D 11
P.S- I'll be at this one! :cheerl:
Yay! :clap:

[Tx Challenge]

Sorry folks, I messed up a PM

[Tx Challenge]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
I think that I need to think about this one a bit. :p (I'll add my $.015 in a day or two.)



Yay! :clap:

BTW Deb, I caught that...

[themsu97]

the slot T is very predictable... but getting kids to stick with what they have been taught is difficult...

however, if you think LH is predictable, well then, well then, I will leave it at that...

sorry to hear the news LHPM... it is a different world now... 10 times better

[Daddy D 11]

Is Chafin going to play in this one?

[j_dog]

Question. Do both teams still have the same head coaches they had back in 03 and 04?

I am a bit surprised that either team has losses on their records this early in the year.

[Daddy D 11]

LH still has Vance.

Burnet has Doyle Walker now. Shipley left and is now at some low life school in West Texas.

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
LH still has Vance.

Burnet has Doyle Walker now. Shipley left and is now at some low life school in West Texas.
... that spanked your behiney this year!:eek:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Tx Challenge
Sorry folks, I messed up a PM
ROFL! :D

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by hollywood
... that spanked your behiney this year!:eek:

You live in Stephenville but are talking smack for Brownwood?

[themsu97]

I guess I can say this for the Slot T... it really is not a predictable offense... their are only 2 or 3 formations but there are about 25-30 plays that are run... ball fakes and back action are key but it is definitely not predictable...

again, some of you are obviously not looking at the teams close enough to know what and who is predictable...

[Daddy D 11]

Burnet sucks:p

[Super_R]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Burnet sucks:p

Burnet...land of the neutered!

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by themsu97


again, some of you are obviously not looking at the teams close enough to know what and who is predictable...

I knew you were going to say that

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Super_R
Burnet...land of the neutered!

And home of the..... well, never mind.:doh: :p :D

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
You live in Stephenville but are talking smack for Brownwood?

Yep. Smell the coffee. What color is my blood?;)

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Burnet sucks:p And guess what side I'll be sitting on in Burnet tomorrow night? Yep, the side where the DC is a Brownwood-ex and former teamate...the winning side. Spank that feline booty.

[Daddy D 11]

dumb.

This thread has been real weak.

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
dumb.

This thread has been real weak.
I agree! 'Bout as weak as the 2 teams playing.:rolleyes:

[Daddy B 12]

Originally posted by hollywood
I agree! 'Bout as weak as the 2 teams playing.:rolleyes:
Why are you even on this thread? Or even this website? It's not a Stephenville thread, and obviously not a 4a website.

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Daddy B 12
Why are you even on this thread? Or even this website? It's not a Stephenville thread, and obviously not a 4a website.

It's a public message board isn't it?

[Daddy B 12]

Originally posted by hollywood
It's a public message board isn't it?
I just dont understand why you would have any interest in this thread or this website and if you do, then dont be ignorant and annoying.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
I want to hear what my partner in crime thinks about this one!


All right - I've been thinking about this for a few days & have changed my mind :p 3 different times about my thoughts, or at least what I wanted to say.

I think both teams are better, or least have the potential to be, than what the records indicate - and better than lots give them credit for. There may be some "tricks up the sleeves" for both if tonight was any indication. :D ;)

I think this is the week that the Cats realize their own potential for all 4 quarters! And it will take lights out for all 4 for both teams because of the intensity.



WHO YA ROOTIN' FOR? L-H-H-S!




Cats rule! Bulldogs drool! :D

[hollywood]

Good luck to both teams tonight. May the best team win.

[LHexPlayer]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
All right - I've been thinking about this for a few days & have changed my mind :p 3 different times about my thoughts, or at least what I wanted to say.

I think both teams are better, or least have the potential to be, than what the records indicate - and better than lots give them credit for. There may be some "tricks up the sleeves" for both if tonight was any indication. :D ;)

I think this is the week that the Cats realize their own potential for all 4 quarters! And it will take lights out for all 4 for both teams because of the intensity.



WHO YA ROOTIN' FOR? L-H-H-S!




Cats rule! Bulldogs drool! :D

You willing to take a bet on this game?:D

[Dawg Dad]

I think this game will end in a 0 0 tie. Both teams are very WEAK!!!!! The glory days are over boys!!!!!!

Llano has this district wrapped up!

Canyon Lake is the only challenger. Period.

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by Dawg Dad
I think this game will end in a 0 0 tie. Both teams are very WEAK!!!!! The glory days are over boys!!!!!!

Llano has this district wrapped up!

Canyon Lake is the only challenger. Period.

Shut up.

[ziggy29]

Late in the second quarter:

Burnet 31
LH 0

[garciap77]

Originally posted by ziggy29
Late in the second quarter:

Burnet 31
LH 0

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[ziggy29]

Don't look now, but it's 45-0 in the 3rd....

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by ziggy29
Don't look now, but it's 45-0 in the 3rd....


wow!!!!!!! did not see that coming

[solocam]

48 to 6 now in the 4th

[LHdog]

What a beat down! This the worst performance of a Panther team in many years. Where was Esch? He didn't suit-up for the game.

[ziggy29]

As far as I can tell, 48-6 was the final. LH had only one first down in the first half from what I heard...

[wimbo_pro]

i gotta think about this one for a while. What does this all mean? We beat Burnet...Burnet smashes LH....hmmm...

[Rocket]

OUCH

[OldBison75]

Wimbo-be careful about the comparison game. You guys have a pretty good team and so does Burnet. Llano ain't no slouch either. Play 'em one at a time and you will see the playoffs on the horizon. LH is having a really rough year and that district is getting a chance to get even for a few years of LH dominance. But, time change, teams change, and sooner or later all things go full circle. Enjoy your success and look forward to each week.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by OldBison75
Wimbo-be careful about the comparison game. You guys have a pretty good team and so does Burnet. Llano ain't no slouch either. Play 'em one at a time and you will see the playoffs on the horizon. LH is having a really rough year and that district is getting a chance to get even for a few years of LH dominance. But, time change, teams change, and sooner or later all things go full circle. Enjoy your success and look forward to each week.

<<<Bison...shhhhhh...let me breathe a little after 3 years....>>>

[OldBison75]

Hey, I said to enjoy the success, and a little bragging is okay too--but be classy. I know that it is hard after hearing from some of the posters over the last few years, but you can do it. Oh hell, go ahead--give a jab or two--then be classy.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by OldBison75
Hey, I said to enjoy the success, and a little bragging is okay too--but be classy. I know that it is hard after hearing from some of the posters over the last few years, but you can do it. Oh hell, go ahead--give a jab or two--then be classy.

LOL...actually...no jabbing. Last thing we need is a pissed off LH at home in a couple of weeks. I am not surprised too much by this score...Burnet is very good...they just didnt get it done when we played them. This is going to be an interesting run for the play offs

[LHexPlayer]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
i gotta think about this one for a while. What does this all mean? We beat Burnet...Burnet smashes LH....hmmm...

wimbo you will soon get to see what it all means. Yes if it looks like a duck...and all that

[Old Dog]

I sit among many of the Burnet players parents. At least 4 of the starters didn't play due to the flu. I feel sure this is happening to everybody, so it's very difficult to devine who is really the best at times. The flu thing is really messing up some teams.

[Daddy B 12]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
i gotta think about this one for a while. What does this all mean? We beat Burnet...Burnet smashes LH....hmmm...
well it probably means what you think it means LOL

[fatman123]

Well. That's embarrassing. Seems as though losing Coach Walker was bigger than it was made out.

[Gobbla2001]

wth?

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Daddy B 12
well it probably means what you think it means LOL

LOL..I dunno. Usually, the LH/Wimberley games are hard fought (I said "usually", so dont even bring up last year!). I still am not looking forward to going into LH for this years showdown.

[Looking4number8]

Gotta tell ya, you LH guys are still first class.. You took a whipping last night but I aint hearing any whinning or excuses... I still think you have a team that can make a run in the playoffs, not sure what happened last night unless Burnet was just super pissed about the way they lost last year and played with a full year of built up frustration!

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by Looking4number8
Gotta tell ya, you LH guys are still first class.. You took a whipping last night but I aint hearing any whinning or excuses... I still think you have a team that can make a run in the playoffs, not sure what happened last night unless Burnet was just super pissed about the way they lost last year and played with a full year of built up frustration!

No excuses. it is just a game. The sun came up this morning. Albeit, behind the clouds. :)

Congratulations to Burnet. Your guys played a great game and LH didn't.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by LH_Tuff
No excuses. it is just a game. The sun came up this morning. Albeit, behind the clouds. :)

Congratulations to Burnet. Your guys played a great game and LH didn't.

Burnet has some talent...this is for sure. The only question is will their performance in Wimberley be their low-point of the year? Or will it return? Time will tell.

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Burnet has some talent...this is for sure. The only question is will their performance in Wimberley be their low-point of the year? Or will it return? Time will tell.

I did hear last night that they had 8 kids out with the flu last week. No excuses from them. Just what I heard.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by LH_Tuff
I did hear last night that they had 8 kids out with the flu last week. No excuses from them. Just what I heard.

Wow...if that is true (and the 8 were starters) Burnet definitely will be a force to reckon with.

[Daddy D 11]

This was my first game to make since the La Grange scrimmage. And not a single thing has changed, exactly what I thought would happen...happened.

I'm just proud of the boys for hanging in there, this years group is short in talent. But, like I said a month ago, atleast they know how to carry themselves. They are good, respectable guys.

With that said, Burnet has got some pretty good talent. Their best team in the past 3 years for sure. Also, I'm a 20 year old kid who has watched the offense for 8-9 years now, but still should not be able to call every play before it happens. I was sitting in a group of about 15 people that could all call the play before the snap, sometimes before the huddle even broke. That needs to change.

Like Fatman said above, Walker is the man, and he is needed badly.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
This was my first game to make since the La Grange scrimmage. And not a single thing has changed, exactly what I thought would happen...happened.

I'm just proud of the boys for hanging in there, this years group is short in talent. But, like I said a month ago, atleast they know how to carry themselves. They are good, respectable guys.

With that said, Burnet has got some pretty good talent. Their best team in the past 3 years for sure. Also, I'm a 20 year old kid who has watched the offense for 8-9 years now, but still should not be able to call every play before it happens. I was sitting in a group of about 15 people that could all call the play before the snap, sometimes before the huddle even broke. That needs to change.

Like Fatman said above, Walker is the man, and he is needed badly.

Daddy D11...come on...we have been able to call your plays for the last 5 years too...and probably every other team could as well. Difference is,back then, no one could stop it even knowing it was coming!!! Thats the difference...talent level.

[LHexPlayer]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Also, I'm a 20 year old kid who has watched the offense for 8-9 years now, but still should not be able to call every play before it happens. I was sitting in a group of about 15 people that could all call the play before the snap, sometimes before the huddle even broke. That needs to change.

Like Fatman said above, Walker is the man, and he is needed badly.

I've notice the play calling too. Also it is very easy to find the ball now. Our deception is not nearly as good as it once was nor is the misdirection. Another thing that hurts our offense is that we cannot cut block down the field anymore. We use to cut the safety to the ground every play but not anymore. Walker seemed to bring an attitude and intensity to the offense that is just not there now.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by LHdog
Where was Esch? He didn't suit-up for the game.
His Grandfather passed away & he was in Nebraska for the funeral. :( Flu got at least one more and a couple out with injuries. NO EXCUSES - we got our butts handed to us & would've if everyone had been available.

[LHexPlayer]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Daddy D11...come on...we have been able to call your plays for the last 5 years too...and probably every other team could as well. Difference is,back then, no one could stop it even knowing it was coming!!! Thats the difference...talent level.

Wimbo it was a lot harder to find the ball before. Wimberley always did a good job at knowing the plays. But most other teams would be lost when we played them.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Daddy D11...come on...we have been able to call your plays for the last 5 years too...and probably every other team could as well. Difference is,back then, no one could stop it even knowing it was coming!!! Thats the difference...talent level.

I agree completly with the talent level. But, you will see what I'm talking about in a couple weeks. IDK, maybe I've just gotten smarter :D lol but I used to maybe be able to call a couple plays in a drive and/or quarter when Walker was here. Now, I feel like Will Muschamp in the stands just picking plays apart:p


The absence of Esch definitely hurt, but I agree with LHPM. Wouldn't of mattered in this one.

[LHexPlayer]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
His Grandfather passed away & he was in Nebraska for the funeral. :( Flu got at least one more and a couple out with injuries. NO EXCUSES - we got our butts handed to us & would've if everyone had been available.

Sorry to hear that. You are right about that though. No excuses. We were completely overmatched in that game.

[Daddy D 11]

In the second quarter, #7 made a helluva catch for the TD!
Him and #2 are players. Chafin's grown into a good QB too. Does anyone know if #23 is that sophomore QB? He took some snaps in the first half I know.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by LHexPlayer
Wimbo it was a lot harder to find the ball before. Wimberley always did a good job at knowing the plays. But most other teams would be lost when we played them.

The Slot T Code has been broke. I don't see it ever being an effective offense. Maybe in 10 years after all these 3A coaches have moved on and you have new coaches that haven't seen it. Even then, you will need studs to run it and be effective. Gimmick offense.

[LHexPlayer]

Originally posted by Rocket
The Slot T Code has been broke. I don't see it ever being an effective offense. Maybe in 10 years after all these 3A coaches have moved on and you have new coaches that haven't seen it. Even then, you will need studs to run it and be effective. Gimmick offense.

Thanks Rocket. Don't you have Beast's shoulders to rub or his dinner to cook?

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Rocket
The Slot T Code has been broke. I don't see it ever being an effective offense. Maybe in 10 years after all these 3A coaches have moved on and you have new coaches that haven't seen it. Even then, you will need studs to run it and be effective. Gimmick offense.

Gimmick??? What planet are you from? Running the ball 99% of the time is hardly a gimmick.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Gimmick??? What planet are you from? Running the ball 99% of the time is hardly a gimmick.

LOL yeah because everybody does it? Right?

The gimmick is referring to something new and innovative that is effective, for a while. Now everybody in their district knows how to stop it and its just ineffective. Running the starburst in the backfield is not gonna get it done anymore. This is why Offenses like "The Greatest Show on Turf" fade away. They get figured out and dealt with. I thought you were smarter than that wimbo?

Run the ball 99% of the time and get crushed. Read the FB and crush LH.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by LHexPlayer
Thanks Rocket. Don't you have Beast's shoulders to rub or his dinner to cook?

Naah... just walking around and looking at the damage done. Pretty bad. We all saw it coming though. Better start working on the spread offense now so they can at least have some WR's that can run a route. Finding a QB to run it is the hard part.

[lv2937]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
i gotta think about this one for a while. What does this all mean? We beat Burnet...Burnet smashes LH....hmmm... What it means is that u were lucky in beating burnet. they had 9 playes out when we played wimberly. well not 9 out ,think it was 4 players out with the flu and 5 that were there but not playing much because of the flu. they were all back last night. Daddy 11 still SUCKS

[LHexPlayer]

Originally posted by Rocket
Naah... just walking around and looking at the damage done. Pretty bad. We all saw it coming though. Better start working on the spread offense now so they can at least have some WR's that can run a route. Finding a QB to run it is the hard part.

That's going to be hard to do when we don't even compete in the state 7 on 7 tournaments like everyone else. We never have.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by lv2937
What it means is that u were lucky in beating burnet. they had 9 playes out when we played wimberly. well not 9 out ,think it was 4 players out with the flu and 5 that were there but not playing much because of the flu. they were all back last night. Daddy 11 still SUCKS

I would agree that it was obvious Burnet was not hitting all cylinders. And if they were and we were as well, I would still have to go with Burnet for the win...this year anyways.

Burnet is definitely the more talented team. But yet, they have a district loss at the hands of a lesser athletic team. You cant win it all if you let this happen.

[Daddy B 12]

Walker was the the reason we were as good as we were. It is very apparent now that he is gone. I still think we would have at least made it to state last year with him.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Daddy B 12
Walker was the the reason we were as good as we were. It is very apparent now that he is gone. I still think we would have at least made it to state last year with him.

But ...wasnt Walker the Offensive Coordinator?? i listened to the game last year against Celina and thought your defense was pretty much mowed down too. Not to mention your special teams...

[LHexPlayer]

Originally posted by Daddy B 12
Walker was the the reason we were as good as we were. It is very apparent now that he is gone. I still think we would have at least made it to state last year with him.

What current coaches ticked you off? LOL I like the honesty.

[Daddy B 12]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
But ...wasnt Walker the Offensive Coordinator?? i listened to the game last year against Celina and thought your defense was pretty much mowed down too. Not to mention your special teams...
The offensive play calling in that game last year was horrendous. I'll leave it at that.

And yes Walker was just the offensive coordinator, but he did more than just that. He was the coach that every championship team must have. He was our leader, our motivator, and he made playmakers turn into playmakers.

[Rocket]

How do you guys feel about your offense? I mean there is only so many plays you can call out of the Slot T. Are y'all ready to move on?

7-on-7 would be a good idea this summer.

[OldBison75]

For a couple of years I have said that even though the LH posters were very supportive of the Panthers and were sometimes outspoken--they have more class as a group than anyone on this board. They have had the pleasure of having the best the state had to offer to brag about and now are going through a tough time. On the whole, they don't make excuses and still support thier team. I am honored to have played against them and shared barbs with the posters. It is a real pleasure to have people that call a spade a spade. BUT--everybody needs to remember that this may be a year to pick on the Panthers, but that will change and everything jabbed this year will be poking you in the butt before long.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by OldBison75
BUT--everybody needs to remember that this may be a year to pick on the Panthers, but that will change and everything jabbed this year will be poking you in the butt before long.

Only if they install a new offense or get a group of kids like they had the last 3 years.

I agree. Overall, pretty good group of fans.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Rocket
Naah... just walking around and looking at the damage done. Pretty bad. We all saw it coming though. Better start working on the spread offense now so they can at least have some WR's that can run a route. Finding a QB to run it is the hard part.

if what you mean by "we all saw it coming" is the fact that one day, LH would not dominate the world or 3A...way to go out on a limb. I agree that a one dimensional offense CAN be troublesome, but to say that LH (or another talented team) can't make that offense work again is wrong.

[LHexPlayer]

Originally posted by Rocket
How do you guys feel about your offense? I mean there is only so many plays you can call out of the Slot T. Are y'all ready to move on?

7-on-7 would be a good idea this summer.

We wouldn't have anything without our Slot-T offense. People want to say we had more talent than other teams the last few years and that is why we won. But our talent was nothing compared to Gilmer, Navasota, and many other teams we beat. We beat them because of our system on offense and our talent on defense.

I still think it can be very effective when it is run properly. I do not feel it is being run the way it should be but that is just my opinion. I'm not ready to scrap it just yet. I do wish we would add some other packages of formations into our offense incase the game situation calls for something different. These kids know the slot-t plays like the back of their hands by now so I don't see how taking some time to learn a shotgun formation or a single wing formation too will hurt them.

I also would like for us to get more into the 7 on 7 summer programs. Right now we scrimmage Leander High every week in 7 on 7. We don't play lots of teams or even attempt to qualify for the state tournament. I feel if we did this it would at the very least add more skill to our players.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Rocket
Only if they install a new offense or get a group of kids like they had the last 3 years.

I agree. Overall, pretty good group of fans.

One could argue that its Brownwood who should install a new offense. When is the last time it worked?

[Daddy B 12]

Originally posted by LHexPlayer
We wouldn't have anything without our Slot-T offense. People want to say we had more talent than other teams the last few years and that is why we won. But our talent was nothing compared to Gilmer, Navasota, and many other teams we beat. We beat them because of our system on offense and our talent on defense.

I still think it can be very effective when it is run properly. I do not feel it is being run the way it should be but that is just my opinion. I'm not ready to scrap it just yet. I do wish we would add some other packages of formations into our offense incase the game situation calls for something different. These kids know the slot-t plays like the back of their hands by now so I don't see how taking some time to learn a shotgun formation or a single wing formation too will hurt them.

I also would like for us to get more into the 7 on 7 summer programs. Right now we scrimmage Leander High every week in 7 on 7. We don't play lots of teams or even attempt to qualify for the state tournament. I feel if we did this it would at the very least add more skill to our players.
I agree. Without the slot-t nobody would know who Liberty Hill is and there would definately have never been any state championships. The offense is just not being run properly its as simple as that. The plays that are being called are very predictable and sometimes just flat out dont make any sense. Adding some different packages would help out too because it would make teams have to defend some different things.

It also doesnt help that everytime a pass is called the ball is just thrown up into the air for anyone to catch. LH's passing game is used to back the defense up off the line so the holes can be opened up for the run again. Then everytime the defensive backs start to creep back up, you beat them with a pass to back them up again. The passing game may not be a huge factor in the offense, but it is neccesary for the passing plays to be executed correctly when they are called.

[LH Panther Mom]

I've read on here and other places that "it's not the X's and O's, it's....". :thinking: I've got some good friends with kids on the team and 2 of my boys have friends out there. It makes me sad to see them not having the success that they want and have worked hard for. :(

What's missing? I have no real inside information, since one of mine isn't out there on Fridays, but I do listen and watch, and if I'm off base, then so be it.

Confidence? Comradery? It's easy to have when you're winning, maybe not as easy now. They need to believe not just in themselves as individuals, but in each other as a TEAM. What happened to holding hands in the huddle? "Band of Brothers", guys.....

Play calling? Of course it stinks. I mean, why shouldn't it? We've got lots of expert parents, relatives and fans and it makes perfect sense. If "Little Johnny" got the ball/PT...or if we ran 241 instead of 387...or if we passed when we "should've" run or run when we "should've" passed...or if insert name here hadn't graduated/moved/taken another job...or if this or that. If the players hear/read it enough, they start to think it. And if they think it enough, they believe it and it becomes reality. And I know that there are several that hear it frequently at home. "Faith", guys.....

Intensity? Attitude? It's the mental edge! It's popping 'em in the mouth! It's "bringing it" every single play, not just the ones where you might get to be the one that shines or make the play. It's an everybody, all the time thing - not a everybody some of the time, or some all of the time. It's the "GO HARD OR GO HOME" mentality. "Hold the Rope", guys.....



As far as Walker goes? Here's a NEWS FLASH - HE'S GONE! Get over it! (Which goes back to the "expert" stuff......)

[wimbo_pro]

What ex-State championship school hasn't felt this way...or gone through this? It gets easier as time goes on. Then, the flame re-ignites for another run. Back to earth with all the other "common folk"! LOL!! Boy, don't we know it here in Wimberley.

But it aint over...dont give up.

[LHexPlayer]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
What ex-State championship school hasn't felt this way...or gone through this? It gets easier as time goes on. Then, the flame re-ignites for another run. Back to earth with all the other "common folk"! LOL!! Boy, don't we know it here in Wimberley.

But it aint over...dont give up.

Yep, it had to happen sooner or later. It happens to everyone. Our kids will keep working like they always do. I'm interested to see how we rebound. It will be interesting to see how we do it and how long it takes to get our swagger back.

[sinton66]

The wing-t/slot-t is a GREAT offense. Teams you play do get used to it and get better at defending against it sooner or later. This is WHY after three or four years of success at running it you begin to see a decline. It doesn't necessarily mean you're any less talented than the previous squads (although talent tends to go through cycles also).

I have always felt that this is the BEST basic offensive package a team can have. I have also always felt that the teams that run this offense must ALSO have a backup formation to fall back on in tough matches.

IMO, if any wing-t/slot-t team could manage to master both this running formation and the spread offense and were able to transition between the two smoothly, there would be no stopping them. Even the best DC's would NEVER know what to expect. Of course, it would become necessary to run out of the spread and pass out of the slot (both are definitely possible).

[Old Dog]

Someone was asking about #23 (Jathan Craig) of Burnet. He is a senior RB; the direct snap was just a wrinkle they added this week. The second string QB is Nick Jung, #4 who is a lefty.

As for all the starters being back, no...... Stephen Young #8 was suited up but did not get on the field. His mom sits in front of me and said he had the flu most of the week and the coach would not let him on the field. Young is a good solid player.

I don't feel that LH will stay down too long. Vance is just good of a modivator for that to happen. LH has had some tough luck and have some youth/experience issues too. I've always been fond of the LH folks and noticed they filled up the visitors stands. AND yalls band did a great job also!

[LHexPlayer]

Originally posted by Old Dog
Someone was asking about #23 (Jathan Craig) of Burnet. He is a senior RB; the direct snap was just a wrinkle they added this week. The second string QB is Nick Jung, #4 who is a lefty.

As for all the starters being back, no...... Stephen Young #8 was suited up but did not get on the field. His mom sits in front of me and said he had the flu most of the week and the coach would not let him on the field. Young is a good solid player.

I don't feel that LH will stay down too long. Vance is just good of a modivator for that to happen. LH has had some tough luck and have some youth/experience issues too. I've always been fond of the LH folks and noticed they filled up the visitors stands. AND yalls band did a great job also!

Hey thanks Old Dog. You guys looked real good last night. I will be rooting the bulldogs on as they go far this year. Good luck for the rest of the season.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by lv2937
What it means is that u were lucky in beating burnet. they had 9 playes out when we played wimberly. well not 9 out ,think it was 4 players out with the flu and 5 that were there but not playing much because of the flu. they were all back last night. Daddy 11 still SUCKS


Excuse me?:thinking:

[Super_R]

Ouch...is all I can say. We got our Butts handed to us Friday. Burnet looked like a varsity squad playing a JV squad.

There isn't much else to say.

Congrats to the Bulldogs.

[espn1]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Burnet sucks:p LMAO! Ownership once again!

[espn1]

Originally posted by Super_R
Burnet...land of the neutered! LMAO! Ownership once again!

[Super_R]

It wont last!

[swineflu]

should be close....but Burnet wins.

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by swineflu
should be close....but Burnet wins.

What? :vrycnfsd: Too much cough syrup for you swineflu!