Great Things About Friday Night Lights!

[maroonpirate04]

Traveling with the buses
Eating out before/after the game
Cheering on your teams
Wearing your school colors
Bands battle out against each other
Cheerleaders making some noise
The perfect pass/touchdowns
The opening kickoff
Bands beating their drums
Listening to your school's alma mater
Players going through the tunnels as the bands play the fight song
Putting signs/painting windows all other town

And so many other things about Texas High School football what makes the perfect place to be in Texas from August to December:D :D

[Rocket]

Remember when we used to pray before games? Now we have to have moments of silence so we don't offend people.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by Rocket
Remember when we used to pray before games? Now we have to have moments of silence so we don't offend people.

Yeah I remember Rock and I sure do miss it

[Rocket]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
Yeah I remember Rock and I sure do miss it

Yeah it offends me that we don't pray anymore. I guess their goal of not offending anybody failed.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by Rocket
Yeah it offends me that we don't pray anymore. I guess their goal of not offending anybody failed.

As always to be politically correct, we choose to not offend the minority and in turn offend the majority...sad story indeed

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Rocket
Yeah it offends me that we don't pray anymore. I guess their goal of not offending anybody failed. It's not just that they care who they do and do not offend. They are scared of Federal court action. Still sucks all the same!

[tex_male]

Monahans home games still pray before games.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Jesus Christ would not agree with making a public display of prayer at a football stadium, according to the following verses from Matthew 6:

5
"When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, who love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on street corners so that others may see them. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward.
6
But when you pray, go to your inner room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will repay you.

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew6.htm

A lot of Christians don't even know what their Lord actually said about various subjects. What's worse is many once knew and yet now do otherwise because of being taught erroneous doctrine aka the "traditions of men" as it is called in the Bible.

[Old Dog]

The ACLU will find you guys out and squash it! Can't have any one praying of all things. Just too "old school".

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
Jesus Christ would not agree with making a public display of prayer at a football stadium, according to the following verses from Matthew 6:

5
"When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, who love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on street corners so that others may see them. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward.
6
But when you pray, go to your inner room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will repay you.

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew6.htm

A lot of Christians don't even know what their Lord actually said about various subjects. What's worse is many once knew and yet now do otherwise because of being taught erroneous doctrine aka the "traditions of men" as it is called in the Bible.


whoa whoa whoa hold up on the misinterpretation of scripture, Jesus was referring to those who go out and would pray in public with the intention of saying look at us pray we are so holy.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by Old Dog
The ACLU will find you guys out and squash it! Can't have any one praying of all things. Just too "old school".

The ACLU is a joke

[Old Dog]

Thanks TheDOCTORrde, I was about to bit my tongue off and my pop-off valve was near it's limit.............

AND of course the ACLU is a joke, that's why I said what I did!!!! Hope you took my statement for the sarcasm as it was intended!

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by Old Dog
Thanks TheDOCTORrde, I was about to bit my tongue off and my pop-off valve was near it's limit.............

AND of course the ACLU is a joke, that's why I said what I did!!!! Hope you took my statement for the scarcasim as it was intended!

I caught the sarcasm I just had to put that out there, well because thats what I do :D

[RedWhiteBlue]

I, too miss the praying...:(
But I love it when it finally really cools off a bit and fall hits. There is just enough chill in the air....:D

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by Rocket
Remember when we used to pray before games? Now we have to have moments of silence so we don't offend people.

Then use the moment of silence to pray. Does someone have to lead a prayer for you to join in speak to god? If not, then pray away! If you have to remember back to when you "used" to pray it probably wasnt that meaningful anyway... :rolleyes:

If these socialist schools allowed muslim or islamic prayers led before games you would be beside yourself :p ;)

[44INAROW]

along the same subject - does your team pray together before the game? Cuero does and have gathered with other teams after games and prayed - The team also gathers in front of the stands with parents/friends (home and away) and says a prayer aloud.. Day by Day...

[RedWhiteBlue]

Originally posted by rockdale80
Then use the moment of silence to pray. Does someone have to lead a prayer for you to join in speak to god? If not, then pray away! If you have to remember back to when you "used" to pray it probably wasnt that meaningful anyway... :rolleyes:

If these socialist schools allowed muslim or islamic prayers led before games you would be beside yourself :p ;)
I think you may have misunderstood the point....JMO:thinking:

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
I think you may have misunderstood the point....JMO:thinking:

I guess so, what was it?

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by rockdale80
Then use the moment of silence to pray. Does someone have to lead a prayer for you to join in speak to God ? If not, then pray away!

:doh:

[RedWhiteBlue]

Originally posted by 44INAROW
along the same subject - does your team pray together before the game? Cuero does and have gathered with other teams after games and prayed - The team also gathers in front of the stands with parents/friends (home and away) and says a prayer aloud.. Day by Day...
Graham does.:)

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by DaHop72
:doh:

;)

[RedWhiteBlue]

Originally posted by rockdale80
I guess so, what was it?
NM- if you didn't get it... you probably won't ever.:doh:

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
NM- if you didn't get it... you probably won't ever.:doh:

Well, I was hoping you would explain it so I can be sure we are on the same page. I also hope you understood my counter to that point.

[RedWhiteBlue]

Originally posted by rockdale80
Well, I was hoping you would explain it so I can be sure we are on the same page. I also hope you understood my counter to that point.
Oh, I understood totally what you were saying....

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by rockdale80
Then use the moment of silence to pray. Does someone have to lead a prayer for you to join in speak to god? If not, then pray away! If you have to remember back to when you "used" to pray it probably wasnt that meaningful anyway... :rolleyes:

If these socialist schools allowed muslim or islamic prayers led before games you would be beside yourself :p ;)

Behave yourself!

I say, what's the big deal? I use the "moment of silence" to send up my prayer.

We had a very nice prayer circle before & after our game with Moody. We don't always do it, but it's nice to see when they do and not that big of a deal (to me) when they don't.

BUT back to the original topic

I love it when fall finally arrives and there is a need for a light hoodie. :D

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
Oh, I understood totally what you were saying....

I am almost certain I understood the original point too. I pray frequently, but I also respect those that are non-believers or practicers of other faiths. I dont have to pray with a group at a football game to have a relationship with God.

Socialist schools are funded by the state and fed and should be seperated from religion. :)

[Rocket]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
Jesus Christ would not agree with making a public display of prayer at a football stadium, according to the following verses from Matthew 6:

5
"When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, who love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on street corners so that others may see them. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward.
6
But when you pray, go to your inner room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will repay you.

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew6.htm

A lot of Christians don't even know what their Lord actually said about various subjects. What's worse is many once knew and yet now do otherwise because of being taught erroneous doctrine aka the "traditions of men" as it is called in the Bible.

LOL man you wreak of religiousness...

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by 44INAROW
along the same subject - does your team pray together before the game? Cuero does and have gathered with other teams after games and prayed - The team also gathers in front of the stands with parents/friends (home and away) and says a prayer aloud.. Day by Day... There are various groups of students that get together and pray. Band, cheerleaders, players etc.. To prevent them from doing so is a violation of their constitutional rights. Big thing is it can't be mandated by anyone associated with the school staff or lead by anyone on school staff. PA cannot be used to say prayer but after moment of silence our PA guy gives a very loud Amen. :D

[Old Dog]

At Burnet for the last several years, near the end of the moment of silence, the band chimes in with one verse of Amazing Grace. It's something the kids came up with, not the director.

[RedWhiteBlue]

Now that this thread has totally derailed.... I would like to say that it makes me very proud to see our kids unite with our other kids and especially with other schools and pray to GOD. Not only are they witnessing for our LORD and SAVIOUR, but they are also standing up to the devil and letting him know that he does not have a place at our athletic or other school functions.:D I also think it is important for our other children (and adults) who may be struggling or lost to hear about GOD and know that there is an alternative to the lifestyle they may be living.:thinking:
Now, for other Friday Night things I love:
Last Friday Night- I was able to see my 'Ole Speed Limit son, a sophomore, suit up with the varsity and man, did that make my heart sore.:inlove:
I love seeing my youngest run around on the sideline- toting water and balls to whoever. And the older boys being so sweet and loving to him, eventhough I know he gets on their nerves at times!!!:doh:
And I love those big huge sweet grins on those boys faces after a win.... that glint in their eyes can just melt my heart!!:)

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
Now that this thread has totally derailed.... I would like to say that it makes me very proud to see our kids unite with our other kids and especially with other schools and pray to GOD. Not only are they witnessing for our LORD and SAVIOUR, but they are also standing up to the devil and letting him know that he does not have a place at our athletic or other school functions.:D I also think it is important for our other children (and adults) who may be struggling or lost to hear about GOD and know that there is an alternative to the lifestyle they may be living.:thinking:
Now, for other Friday Night things I love:
Last Friday Night- I was able to see my 'Ole Speed Limit son, a sophomore, suit up with the varsity and man, did that make my heart sore.:inlove:
I love seeing my youngest run around on the sideline- toting water and balls to whoever. And the older boys being so sweet and loving to him, eventhough I know he gets on their nerves at times!!!:doh:
And I love those big huge sweet grins on those boys faces after a win.... that glint in their eyes can just melt my heart!!:)

The truth is not ALL kids are Christian or of Christian faith. Gathering to pray on their own accord is one thing, but it shouldnt be school led. Socialist schools need to keep their nose away from religion.

Congrats to your sons.

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by rockdale80
The truth is not ALL kids are Christian or of Christian faith. Gathering to pray on their own accord is one thing, but it shouldnt be school led. Socialist schools need to keep their nose away from religion.

Congrats to your sons.

Just for arguments sake - what about those in the crowd that don't believe in saying the Pledge of Alligence or the US Flag for that matter? Should we quit raising the flag and honoring our country by singing the National Anthem because a few disagree due to their religious beliefs?

back to the original subject :) I love when the 1st cool front hits right before a game :)

[RedWhiteBlue]

Originally posted by rockdale80
The truth is not ALL kids are Christian or of Christian faith. Gathering to pray on their own accord is one thing, but it shouldnt be school led. Socialist schools need to keep their nose away from religion.

Congrats to your sons.
Our kids gather on their own accord- it is all student led....

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by 44INAROW
Just for arguments sake - what about those in the crowd that don't believe in saying the Pledge of Alligence or the US Flag for that matter? Should we quit raising the flag and honoring our country by singing the National Anthem because a few disagree due to their religious beliefs?

back to the original subject :) I love when the 1st cool front hits right before a game :)

There is a difference in socialist schools honoring a country that we all belong to and selectively honoring a religion that some people belongs to. ;)

[RedWhiteBlue]

Originally posted by rockdale80
There is a difference in socialist schools honoring a country that we all belong to and selectively honoring a religion that some people belongs to. ;)
I do agree with that...:clap:

[Aesculus gilmus]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
whoa whoa whoa hold up on the misinterpretation of scripture, Jesus was referring to those who go out and would pray in public with the intention of saying look at us pray we are so holy.

I don't think you can get more "public" than praying aloud before a football game. As to what the intention is, the intention to me has always been just that. But so that people don't misinterpret you, why not pray BEFORE you get to the game at home?

He said pray in private. So why do you disregard the actual words of Jesus Christ in the Gospels? It is because of your "tradition" of outright ignoring the plain language of the Scripture, IMO.

He said "blessed are the peacemakers," another verse that is widely ignored. People pick and choose which Scriptures they like and then, just as you have done, reinterpret the ones that seem to conflict with what they want to do to make them "fit."

This is also called worshipping "another Jesus."

[Aesculus gilmus]

Originally posted by Rocket
LOL man you wreak of religiousness...

Your response is not quite literate.

I consider myself a spiritual person, but I am not a churchgoer or a Bible thumper.

I am just quoting back the literal words of the founder of what has come to be known as Christianity to those who are Bible thumpers. They thump it, but they only selectively read it and then interpret it to mean something different than what it clearly says.

It's always been a pet peeve of mine that the actual people with "religiousness" who do wear it on their sleeves to the extent they want to pray over PA systems do not even know the Scriptures.

[OldBison75]

And those that quote scripture "clearly" should specify what version of the Bible they are referencing as there are numerous versions. Most versions have different interpretations of the same verses. As for scripture try Where one or more gather in my name, I will be there.

I am not a Bible Thumper either, but I do know that the foundation of this country was based on a fight for the right to worship a higher being in our own way. That said, if a group of people want to pray together they can pray. I have never hear a football announcer say to the crowd that "Only believers should stand and join in prayer."

No, I don't think a forced prayer should be said over the PA system, but if a group of fans or players want to get together and pray together, GOD BLESS THEM!! It is thier right.

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by OldBison75
And those that quote scripture "clearly" should specify what version of the Bible they are referencing as there are numerous versions. Most versions have different interpretations of the same verses. As for scripture try Where one or more gather in my name, I will be there.

I am not a Bible Thumper either, but I do know that the foundation of this country was based on a fight for the right to worship a higher being in our own way. That said, if a group of people want to pray together they can pray. I have never hear a football announcer say to the crowd that "Only believers should stand and join in prayer."

No, I don't think a forced prayer should be said over the PA system, but if a group of fans or players want to get together and pray together, GOD BLESS THEM!! It is thier right.

And that right has not been infringed upon. People can still pray and gather to pray. The socialist school equipment cannot be used for this purpose though.

[LV_Bearfan]

We should pray at football games as a city, town, school, whatever. It's as American as football itself.

[RedStorm]

considering alot of the founding fathers weren't Christians your logic fails

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by RedStorm
considering alot of the founding fathers weren't Christians your logic fails

true
http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html

[LE Dad]

There are 3 things that I forbid my employees to discuss. Football, religion, and politics.:thinking: :thinking: Wonder why ?:confused: :eek: :eek:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by LE Dad
There are 3 things that I forbid my employees to discuss. Football, religion, and politics.:thinking: :thinking: Wonder why ?:confused: :eek: :eek:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/hitler-baby-1.jpg
:D





;)

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by garciap77
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/hitler-baby-1.jpg
:D





;) :tisk: :tisk: Thats just wrong GP77 :doh:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by LE Dad
:tisk: :tisk: Thats just wrong GP77 :doh:

Well give them a break!:D



;)

P.S. Unless ROCKET works for you!

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by garciap77
Well give them a break!:D



;)

P.S. Unless ROCKET works for you! LOL :clap: :clap:

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
I don't think you can get more "public" than praying aloud before a football game. As to what the intention is, the intention to me has always been just that. But so that people don't misinterpret you, why not pray BEFORE you get to the game at home?

He said pray in private. So why do you disregard the actual words of Jesus Christ in the Gospels? It is because of your "tradition" of outright ignoring the plain language of the Scripture, IMO.

He said "blessed are the peacemakers," another verse that is widely ignored. People pick and choose which Scriptures they like and then, just as you have done, reinterpret the ones that seem to conflict with what they want to do to make them "fit."

This is also called worshipping "another Jesus."

When I read the Bible I see my Jesus praying in public, as well as many patriarchs of the faith along with apostles praying in public..say what? Does the Bible contradict itself, of course not. We see Solomon praying at the dedication of the temple, Elijah on Mt Carmel, we see Paul pray before people and we even see Christ pray in public after the death of Lazarus. Read in 1 Corinthians 14:15-17

15 Well then, what shall I do? I will pray in the spirit,[d] and I will also pray in words I understand. I will sing in the spirit, and I will also sing in words I understand. 16 For if you praise God only in the spirit, how can those who don’t understand you praise God along with you? How can they join you in giving thanks when they don’t understand what you are saying? 17 You will be giving thanks very well, but it won’t strengthen the people who hear you.

How would this principal make sense unless you were praying in a public setting?

Once again I return to the context upon which Jesus says to pray privately, He was condeming the practice of the Pharisees who went into to public to pray to display "their holiness" and "godly practices" While you have pointed out that I disregard the words of Christ, I will point out I havent I have looked at it in the context he was using it and looked at how it also correlates to the rest of the Bible which is also inspired by God which makes them the very words of the Lord as well.

There is a place for public prayer and private prayer. Private prayer life is meant for you and God alone and what you need to deal with personally. But public prayer is meant to be an example to other believers and to bring glory to God. And as long as prayer before a football game is not meant to be a display of "holiness" and is used to pray for the safety and health of players along with sportsmanship and to give thanks to God for the gifts given to the athletes, then that is a proper use of public prayer according to the scriptures.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
Your response is not quite literate.

I consider myself a spiritual person, but I am not a churchgoer or a Bible thumper.

I am just quoting back the literal words of the founder of what has come to be known as Christianity to those who are Bible thumpers. They thump it, but they only selectively read it and then interpret it to mean something different than what it clearly says.

It's always been a pet peeve of mine that the actual people with "religiousness" who do wear it on their sleeves to the extent they want to pray over PA systems do not even know the Scriptures.

Acts 4:24
24When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God.

Acts 1:14
They all joined together constantly in prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers.

Acts 4:31
After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly.

Acts 12:12
When this had dawned on him, he went to the house of Mary the mother of John, also called Mark, where many people had gathered and were praying.

Acts 20:36
When he had said this, he knelt down with all of them and prayed.

There is strength in numbers as far as prayer is concerned. You say pray alone? LOL Where in the world does it say that you should ONLY pray alone? I know the bible, my friend and people like you that pull one verse out of context and quote it as law are the ones twisting the bible for your own good and to be right.

A prayer before a game is doing one simple thing. It is honoring God together as a group of people. Our nation used to do this, but in the last 30 years, turned our back on it. If you don't want to pray as part of the group, just respect those that do. The minority should never dictate for the majority.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by garciap77
Well give them a break!:D



;)

P.S. Unless ROCKET works for you!

He couldn't afford me.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Rocket
He couldn't afford me. Rocket...cleanup on aisle 3, and stay off the freakn computer. :doh:


:rolleyes: I do so hope whatever you do, that you realize that you are way overpaid and very underworked. LOL:clap: :rolleyes:

[OldBison75]

Nowhere in my post did I say that the founding fathers were Christians. I said that they were fighting for a freedom to worship as they pleased, to whatever they considered a higher being. That principal still applies, if i choose to stand up in the stands and say a prayer out loud, that is my right. If they choose to bring a blanket and face the east and bow, that is thier right. The key is that I am not required to participate in thier ritual and they don't have to participate in mine. I still believe that a prayer to whatever God you choose is better than a society that forces it's people to only seek thier beliefs in private. If those that don't believe in prayer force thier belief on the rest of us, who is the real socialist?

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Rocket
He couldn't afford me.

LOL

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by OldBison75
Nowhere in my post did I say that the founding fathers were Christians. I said that they were fighting for a freedom to worship as they pleased, to whatever they considered a higher being. That principal still applies, if i choose to stand up in the stands and say a prayer out loud, that is my right. If they choose to bring a blanket and face the east and bow, that is thier right. The key is that I am not required to participate in thier ritual and they don't have to participate in mine. I still believe that a prayer to whatever God you choose is better than a society that forces it's people to only seek thier beliefs in private. If those that don't believe in prayer force thier belief on the rest of us, who is the real socialist?

Socialist? Hmm....

No one is saying not to pray. Pray all you want. Just dont use tax payer money collected for socialist use from every religious or non-religous person in a community to promote christianity. Every community member and tax payer does not wish to promote one religion. Take the moment of silence and recognize the god of your choice... or go get some nachos. The choice is yours.

[pirate4state]

Yall jacked up a perfectly good topic! :rolleyes: Bunch of Rockets, I tell you! :D

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by pirate4state
Yall jacked up a perfectly good topic! :rolleyes: Bunch of Rockets, I tell you! :D

What? I mentioned getting nachos. :D

I like the smell of the fresh cut grass

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by rockdale80
What? I mentioned getting nachos. :D

I like the smell of the fresh cut grass

I saw that. Mmmmmmm nachos. Which reminds me, where is G2? LOL


I also like hearing Hells Bells as our guys walk onto the field.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Rocket...cleanup on aisle 3, and stay off the freakn computer. :doh:


:rolleyes: I do so hope whatever you do, that you realize that you are way overpaid and very underworked. LOL:clap: :rolleyes:

Hmmm... seems like you are on here more than me!

[Rocket]

Originally posted by pirate4state
Yall jacked up a perfectly good topic! :rolleyes: Bunch of Rockets, I tell you! :D

I'm gonna change my name to Philibuster.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by pirate4state
Yall jacked up a perfectly good topic! :rolleyes: Bunch of Rockets, I tell you! :D :clap:

Can't we all just get along?? Everyone has different beliefs, that's what makes this country great. I know what I believe and you are not changing my mind any more than I am going to change yours. Lets get back to some football.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Rocket
Hmmm... seems like you are on here more than me! Quit changing the subject!:D

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by Rocket
I'm gonna change my name to Philibuster.
now that is funny :D

ps - this cool front makes it feel like football weather :)

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by garciap77
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/hitler-baby-1.jpg
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;)

That made me laugh HARD!!!!


I'm not even give my opinion on the prayer issue......

When we walked into the game last Friday, the national anthem started. My sister in law and I stopped in our tracks and put our hand over our heart. My 2-1/2 y/o granddaughter looked up at me and then at my sis-in-law and kinda shrugged and put her tiny hand over her tiny heart.....the national anthem almost brings me to tears every time I hear it....but to see my granddaughter do that really DID bring me to tears!!!

[RedWhiteBlue]

For me.... there are just some things about 'the good old days' of football that I miss that I will probably never see again with actual prayer to my Lord and Savior over the PA being one of them...:(
But I will enjoy this wonderful cool fall weather on Friday night if it sticks around until then...:D

[maroonpirate04]

Is the world gonna end already? Seems like now everybody is turning to God:D from the subject changed from the meaning of Friday Night Lights to prayers :D

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
For me.... there are just some things about 'the good old days' of football that I miss that I will probably never see again with actual prayer to my Lord and Savior over the PA being one of them...:(
But I will enjoy this wonderful cool fall weather on Friday night if it sticks around until then...:D

The Greenwood Baptist Church is very close to our field. There have been times when a prayer was said from the roof of the church over their PA!!:D :D

[RedWhiteBlue]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
The Greenwood Baptist Church is very close to our field. There have been times when a prayer was said from the roof of the church over their PA!!:D :D
That is an awesome idea!!:cool: