ACORN just the tip of the iceburg!

[Old Cardinal]

I here there are over 1800 government agencies that are erasing records right now....maybe a little disclosure will get some of the waste and corruption that has recently blossomed to slow down!

COMMENTS?

[Old Cardinal]

copy/paste
CNSNews.com
Social Security Sent More than $40 Million in Checks to Dead People, Inspector General Finds
Thursday, September 17, 2009
By Karen Schuberg


(CNSNews.com) – The Social Security Administration (SSA) has issued benefit checks totaling $40.3 million to an estimated 6,100 beneficiaries for months – and in some cases for decades -- after receiving notification of their deaths, according to a June audit report from the agency’s Office of Inspector General.

Approximately 1,760 of the 6,100 listed as deceased actually were dead, the government auditor estimated. The rest were alive, but had been wrongly listed as deceased.

During a sample audit in 2008, the inspector general uncovered 228 cases where beneficiaries had been receiving payments from SSA when they were already listed as dead. Of those, 88 were verified to have died. Another 140 were found to still be alive.

“SSA improperly paid these 88 deceased beneficiaries approximately $2.0 million,” the OIG report noted.

The remainder were alive, but had been reported as deceased in the federal agency’s Numident master file, a database of Social Security information tied to person’s Social Security number.

In one case, Social Security sent a deceased beneficiary monthly checks of $1,185 for 18 years until October 2008, even though she died in April of 1990. SSA had listed the New York City death certificate number on the Numident records one month after her death, but her name was not removed from the Social Security payment roll and SSA continued to send her approximately $210,000 in 222 improper payments.

“Our review of available information indicated that someone cashed these check payments,” the inspector general reported. “To date, SSA has not recovered any of the improper payments. The OIG has arrested a suspect and is awaiting judicial action on this case.”

In another case, improper payments were made for 30 years after the death of a payee.

The sample audit led the OIG to conduct a wider audit – and to conclude that 1,760 of the estimated 6,100 beneficiaries still getting checks were actually deceased, the report stated.

“Our audit results indicated that a large percentage of these beneficiaries were actually alive, and that death entries recorded on their Numidents were erroneous,” the report said. “However, our audit results also indicated that a number of these beneficiaries were deceased, and that dates of death recorded on their Numidents were accurate.”

The inspector general’s office said it is concerned that Social Security could make approximately $6.9 million in additional improper payments over the next 12 months if these discrepancies are not corrected.”

Section 205(r) of the Social Security Act requires that the Social Security match state death records against Social Security payment records to identify and prevent erroneous payments after death. In addition, SSA matches death records from other federal, state, and local agencies.

[Old Cardinal]

The proven greatest stimulas job created in America is a bank Executive job. You can make all the mistakes you want and the government lets you off the hook and the taxpayers are forced to pay for your bad judgment skills.

Another way of looking at it is that the government has made Banks risk free investment...just tax the people and run the money presses and we in the right spots can reap all the rewards SAD

[BleedOrange]

We should not forget who was forcing banks to make ill advised loans. Unfortunately the Government was a major factor in causing the current problems. They pretty much had to assist the banks due to their dictating the lending policies. After all everyone is entitled "own a home" regardless of whether they are credit worthy. You can thank our Gov't for that. However, despite all of that we can count on them to take care of health care. LOL!! I feel much better now.

[turbostud]

I say the Social Security Administration should open up some whore houses nationwide to recoup some of the lost money sent to dead people.

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
We should not forget who was forcing banks to make ill advised loans. Unfortunately the Government was a major factor in causing the current problems. They pretty much had to assist the banks due to their dictating the lending policies. After all everyone is entitled "own a home" regardless of whether they are credit worthy. You can thank our Gov't for that. However, despite all of that we can count on them to take care of health care. LOL!! I feel much better now.

Actually, it was more of the repeal of the glass-steagall act...but whatever:)

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by Old Cardinal
I here there are over 1800 government agencies that are erasing records right now....maybe a little disclosure will get some of the waste and corruption that has recently blossomed to slow down!

COMMENTS?

Is corruption something that is new? :rolleyes:

[sinton66]

Originally posted by turbostud
I say the Social Security Administration should open up some whore houses nationwide to recoup some of the lost money sent to dead people.

First there needs to be a law that the Congressmen who frequent them must spend their OWN money.:D

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by rockdale80
Is corruption something that is new? :rolleyes: Nobody said it was.

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
Nobody said it was.

Implied...read the first post...

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by rockdale80
Implied...read the first post... Inferred...re-read the first post...:)

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
Inferred...re-read the first post...:)


A speaker implies ("suggests") something; a listener infers (or "deduces").

[DDBooger]

I just ate a Burrito from Zookas, I will need to dedeuce later :D

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by DDBooger
I just ate a Burrito from Zookas, I will need to dedeuce later :D

Puffy tacos from Antonio's

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by rockdale80
A speaker implies ("suggests") something; a listener infers (or "deduces"). Exactly. You inferred something that, in my opinion, wasn't there.

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
Exactly. You inferred something that, in my opinion, wasn't there.

It's called reading. Top to bottom, left to right, group words together as a sentence. Take Tylenol for any headaches... Midol for any cramps.


maybe a little disclosure will get some of the waste and corruption that has recently blossomed to slow down!

I would venture to say that this was implied more than me inferring...:kiss: :kiss:

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by rockdale80
It's called reading. Top to bottom, left to right, group words together as a sentence. Take Tylenol for any headaches... Midol for any cramps.



I would venture to say that this was implied more than me inferring...:kiss: :kiss: Nice Tommy Boy reference, but I still say you inferred more than it was implied. Oh well...

[zebrablue2]

Originally posted by turbostud
I say the Social Security Administration should open up some whore houses nationwide to recoup some of the lost money sent to dead people.


:fnypost:ROFLMAO!:iagree:

[Old Cardinal]

I get a kick out of how liberals and/or socialist minded can always find a way to change the subject.....

Corruption that was confined to the Chicago area has blossomed and these folks have been awarded top-level high paid bureaucratic jobs---even Czar positions-- and now influence freedom destruction via the spread of the ACORN type poison uses all across-- DC and the big cities of the USA.

I am just changing the subject back to this threads original intent...LOL

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by Old Cardinal
I get a kick out of how liberals and/or socialist minded can always find a way to change the subject.....

Corruption that was confined to the Chicago area has blossomed and these folks have been awarded top-level high paid bureaucratic jobs---even Czar positions-- and now influence freedom destruction via the spread of the ACORN type poison uses all across-- DC and the big cities of the USA.

I am just changing the subject back to this threads original intent...LOL


I always get a kick out of how conservatives and/or narrow minded people always find a way to make a mountain out of a mole hill and mislabel things to try to incite fear in the masses.

Crawl under a table....the sky is falling...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

There was never corruption before and if you vote Republican it will get rid of all government corruption and waste....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Lets talk about it everybody...Corruption is everywhere because so many people voted for Obama!!!;)

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Old Cardinal

Corruption that was confined to the Chicago area has blossomed and these folks have been awarded top-level high paid bureaucratic jobs---even Czar positions-- and now influence freedom destruction via the spread of the ACORN type poison uses all across-- DC and the big cities of the USA.
lmao, where do you get the b*lls to say that after the last administration hahaha that was full of industry leaders in regulatory positions as well as over 100 lobbyists. Please, the hypocrisy is too much lmao Uh such silly silly people

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
lmao, where do you get the b*lls to say that after the last administration hahaha that was full of industry leaders in regulatory positions as well as over 100 lobbyists. Please, the hypocrisy is too much lmao Uh such silly silly people
lmao!
I find it fascinating that folks who claim to preach "free speech" are the first ones to belittle those who have a different opinion.:rolleyes:

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by SintonFan
lmao!
I find it fascinating that folks who claim to preach "free speech" are the first ones to belittle those who have a different opinion.:rolleyes:

Its not different....just weird:)

[JasperDog94]

Maybe one day we can elect someone who is a true conservative that will slow the growth of government instead of expanding it. We haven't seen that for decades...from either party.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
lmao, where do you get the b*lls to say that after the last administration hahaha that was full of industry leaders in regulatory positions as well as over 100 lobbyists. Please, the hypocrisy is too much lmao Uh such silly silly people





Main Entry: hyp·o·crite
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English ypocrite, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritçs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai
Date: 13th century
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings





I think hypocrisy goes both ways! To use "past failings" to justify dismissing current failings is about as hypocritical as one can get.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Main Entry: hyp·o·crite
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English ypocrite, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritçs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai
Date: 13th century
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings





I think hypocrisy goes both ways! To use "past failings" to justify dismissing current failings is about as hypocritical as one can get. Great you can look things up. Never the less, not justification but astonishment at how he can raise flags about this when it was as rampant if not more in the last adminstration. You know, kind of like that whole growing govt thing only being bad when a Democrat does it, but you guys stay mum about it when a Republican does! Well, except for JD94!

[turbostud]

Acorn is now going to sue the 2 journalists. this is just going to open up the entire organization at the trial. Acorn apparently believes it will have the last laugh. If the judge who is assigned the case has integrity, we'll see. If I had to bet, I would bet Acorn has its judge picked out already.

I wonder who their lawyers are and what their connection is to democrats. Corruption breads more corruption.

Lawsuit (http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/acorn092309.pdf)

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Great you can look things up. Never the less, not justification but astonishment at how he can raise flags about this when it was as rampant if not more in the last adminstration. You know, kind of like that whole growing govt thing only being bad when a Democrat does it, but you guys stay mum about it when a Republican does! Well, except for JD94!




That's just my point. Because it was just as rampant in the last administration and he didn't raise hell, then he is expected to remain silent now????? That is not logical. It's a whole new ballgame now. Different teams! Different QB! Different season! Of course he is going to raise flags against something he doesn't believe in. That's what people do. Just as you raise flags against things you don't believe in. But for you to DISMISS current issues and expect others to dismiss them because of what happened in the "past administration" is just as hypocritical or in my opinion even more so.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
That's just my point. Because it was just as rampant in the last administration and he didn't raise hell, then he is expected to remain silent now????? That is not logical. It's a whole new ballgame now. Different teams! Different QB! Different season! Of course he is going to raise flags against something he doesn't believe in. That's what people do. Just as you raise flags against things you don't believe in. But for you to DISMISS current issues and expect others to dismiss them because of what happened in the "past administration" is just as hypocritical or in my opinion even more so. NO, actually, I've been quite consistent on my views. Most people on this forum however rail against one side and give half truths. Of course I provide the alternative. Point of the matter is, if you are against corruption, it shouldn't matter the color of the jersey (borrowing from your metaphor). Never the less, I am not justifying anything, in fact, I think a lot of this is hot air and BS. An org. that is an advocacy group for the poor pales in comparison to lobbyists and defense industries that TRULY benefit from corruption in terms of billions of dollars. Here we have a pimp getting advice and false accusations of voter FRAUD which it is really VOTER registration fraud. Just more sensationalism out of those League of Morons on Fox and it's viewership! :D

[Farmersfan]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DDBooger
[BPoint of the matter is, if you are against corruption, it shouldn't matter the color of the jersey (borrowing from your metaphor).





I couldn't agree more! So why do you trivialize some and exaggerate others based on your personal beliefs? I'll tell you why. Because that is what people do!!!!!!
I don't disagree with what you are saying. I'm just trying to point out that you are doing exactly what you accuse so many others of doing. Except you call them "silly, silly people"and judge them inferior to you when they do it.
Oh! and you use bigger words..........:D

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DDBooger
[BPoint of the matter is, if you are against corruption, it shouldn't matter the color of the jersey (borrowing from your metaphor).





I couldn't agree more! So why do you trivialize some and exaggerate others based on your personal beliefs? I'll tell you why. Because that is what people do!!!!!!
I don't disagree with what you are saying. I'm just trying to point out that you are doing exactly what you accuse so many others of doing. Except you call them "silly, silly people"and judge them inferior to you when they do it.
Oh! and you use bigger words..........:
D
see, I understand how we approach news from our angle effects how we view and perceive. Yet I am not speaking horizontally as I am vertically with respect to corruption. Left and Right hold little water to true corruption, both can be bought and both have been bought. IMPACT should drive the news, not what direction it comes from. GWB's administration was all but ran by lobbyists. Obama claimed his wasn't but I'm sorry, the black vote alone can't put that man in office as so many limbic brained individuals seem to believe. The problem this nation has is that when our party is in power, they no longer represent the people but they wait on all fours for that lobbying money to wade in. Perhaps next time people rally and march they'll do it while their party is in power and demand representation rather than passivity because it is someone they elected.

[turbostud]

Originally posted by DDBooger
NO, actually, I've been quite consistent on my views. Most people on this forum however rail against one side and give half truths. Of course I provide the alternative. Point of the matter is, if you are against corruption, it shouldn't matter the color of the jersey (borrowing from your metaphor). Never the less, I am not justifying anything, in fact, I think a lot of this is hot air and BS. An org. that is an advocacy group for the poor pales in comparison to lobbyists and defense industries that TRULY benefit from corruption in terms of billions of dollars. Here we have a pimp getting advice and false accusations of voter FRAUD which it is really VOTER registration fraud. Just more sensationalism out of those League of Morons on Fox and it's viewership! :D

Here ya go. Looks like Repub's got the Defense industry also.
Link (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/23/acorn-rule-trap-defense-contractors-defunding-web/?test=latestnews)

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by turbostud
Here ya go. Looks like Repub's got the Defense industry also.
Link (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/23/acorn-rule-trap-defense-contractors-defunding-web/?test=latestnews)

Republicans intent on cutting off community organization ACORN from the federal trough may have inadvertently alienated defense contractors.

[DDBooger]

Don't worry, they'll weasel the definition to exclude them with the consent of the Democrats as well.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Perhaps next time people rally and march they'll do it while their party is in power and demand representation rather than passivity because it is someone they elected. [/B]




Doesn't this thought also include DDBooger? So when do you march? If you fail to respond to ACORN, Obamacare, and Trillions and Trillions of dollars worth of debt being created right in front of your eyes then aren't you exhibiting passivity because you voted for the the guy???????

What do you think?

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Doesn't this thought also include DDBooger? So when do you march? If you fail to respond to ACORN, Obamacare, and Trillions and Trillions of dollars worth of debt being created right in front of your eyes then aren't you exhibiting passivity because you voted for the the guy???????

What do you think? ACORN is a silly witch hunt. I want health care reform. But I more than fervently speak out against his appeasement of the large Banking industry, HE WILL give in to lobbying pressure being applied by the insurance companies. I'm not expressing passivity in the least, unlike Republicans, I don't have a cover over my eyes while I point out the other parties problems. I always have to temper individuals who think Obama is something different then the status quo. Only thing different is the color of his skin. Unfortunately that is all some people see on both sides. I'd love to stand up to him on issues. But I'm one person. Structure and agency are two things that must work in unison to make a difference. Right now we are so fragmented as a populace that we won't change a DAMN thing.

[Old Cardinal]

I don't care who is elected or where--we should vote for those that will REDUCE the size of government!

To Rockdale 80: I am not sure why we conservatives are the "narrow minded" but I will take that as an accomplishment and compliment.
YOU ARE RIGHT WHEN I WAS A KID, I SAW MY GOAL; TO BE NARROW MINDED ENOUGH TO GET A MASTER OF SCIENCE before I quite my formal education. Being focused and narrow-minded has served me well.
I am proud that I did not major in sociology, basket weaving, bird watching, or worst-- quit-- because I could not cut-the-mustard.

Narrow minded yes; conservative yes; financially independent yes; compassionate--hopefully?, etc:

I work in Ministry in-- prisons, street people, homeless, rehab places, half-way houses, and other forms of aftercare.

All of the people that I know that do likewise are Conservatives---the Liberals just blabber about social issues; but won't get with the people that need help. They are just wind-bagging with no positive help or production to the disenfranchised.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Old Cardinal
I don't care who is elected or where--we should vote for those that will REDUCE the size of government!

To Rockdale 80: I am not sure why we conservatives of the "narrow minded" but I will take that as an accomplishment and compliment.
YOU ARE RIGHT WHEN I WAS A KID I SEE MY GOAL TO BE NARROW MINDED ENOUGH TO GET A MASTER OF SCIENCE before I quite my formal education. Being focused and narrow-minded has served me will.
I am proud that I did not major in sociology, basket weaving, bird watching, or worst quite because I could not cut-the-mustard.

Narrow minded yes; conservative yes; financially independent yes; compassionate--hopefully?, etc:

I work in ministry in-- prisons, street people, homeless, rehab places, half-way houses, and other forms of aftercare.

All of the people that I know that do likewise are Conservatives---the Liberals just blabber about social issues; but won't get with the people that need help. They are just wind-bagging with no positive help or production to the disinfranchised.
all that intelligence and your generalizing are contradictory. LOL as a Sociologist being attacked is common place. People hate to see the truth about what we are, and would rather adhere to ideology rather than actually care. I too worked with people, children, orphans, wards of the state. I'm a liberal, secular, progressive. I am one unflinching and unabashedly. You have a master of science, in what? Generalization of populations to promote my own? LOL

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by Old Cardinal
I don't care who is elected or where--we should vote for those that will REDUCE the size of government!

To Rockdale 80: I am not sure why we conservatives of the "narrow minded" but I will take that as an accomplishment and compliment.
YOU ARE RIGHT WHEN I WAS A KID I SEE MY GOAL TO BE NARROW MINDED ENOUGH TO GET A MASTER OF SCIENCE before I quite my formal education. Being focused and narrow-minded has served me will.
I am proud that I did not major in sociology, basket weaving, bird watching, or worst quite because I could not cut-the-mustard.

Narrow minded yes; conservative yes; financially independent yes; compassionate--hopefully?, etc:

I work in ministry in-- prisons, street people, homeless, rehab places, half-way houses, and other forms of aftercare.

All of the people that I know that do likewise are Conservatives---the Liberals just blabber about social issues; but won't get with the people that need help. They are just wind-bagging with no positive help or production to the disinfranchised.

Clearly your master of science did not require a spelling class. :D

You liken liberals to socialists so I make a broad based stereotype about republicans and you get your feelings hurt? You poor thing.

Also, your resume doesnt impress me and your stabs at my age do not faze me. I have been hearing this asinine argument that I will be changing my mind "when I grow up." I am not sure when you think that will be, but if anything I have become more steadfast in my position. I dont think Obama is the savior, but I also dont buy into you and your doomsday theory that evil and corruption sprang from the earth after he was elected. I actually seem to remember you defending the previous administration and now you are admonishing a new one that has done very little different

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
ACORN is a silly witch hunt. I want health care reform. But I more than fervently speak out against his appeasement of the large Banking industry, HE WILL give in to lobbying pressure being applied by the insurance companies. I'm not expressing passivity in the least, unlike Republicans, I don't have a cover over my eyes while I point out the other parties problems. I always have to temper individuals who think Obama is something different then the status quo. Only thing different is the color of his skin. Unfortunately that is all some people see on both sides. I'd love to stand up to him on issues. But I'm one person. Structure and agency are two things that must work in unison to make a difference. Right now we are so fragmented as a populace that we won't change a DAMN thing.




We are fragmented as a populace. We will continue to be fragmented. Our great country has a great representation right here in the forum. Some believe one way and others believe another. It has always been that way and hopefully it will always be that way. But I agree with you in that we need to come together as a people to get things fixed. So I extend the olive branch of truce to you and invite you to join us in our campaign to rid this country of the taint that is Obama. Will you end the fragment and help to unite us?????????:D :D

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
We are fragmented as a populace. We will continue to be fragmented. Our great country has a great representation right here in the forum. Some believe one way and others believe another. It has always been that way and hopefully it will always be that way. But I agree with you in that we need to come together as a people to get things fixed. So I extend the olive branch of truce to you and invite you to join us in our campaign to rid this country of the taint that is Obama. Will you end the fragment and help to unite us?????????:D :D LOL I offer you an Olive Branch to work cooperatively to encourage him to act in our benefit not the major lobbying powers. ;)

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
LOL I offer you an Olive Branch to work cooperatively to encourage him to act in our benefit not the major lobbying powers. ;)




There you go again, fragmenting our society with your nonsense!!!!!:D

But in all seriousness, I honestly don't think the man has a clue about what is in our best interest. His though processes scare the hell out of me. As it does more and more Americans as time goes by. Unless something BIG happens, his approval rating will make Bush look like the most popular man alive.........

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
There you go again, fragmenting our society with your nonsense!!!!!:D

But in all seriousness, I honestly don't think the man has a clue about what is in our best interest. His though processes scare the hell out of me. As it does more and more Americans as time goes by. Unless something BIG happens, his approval rating will make Bush look like the most popular man alive.........

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll Dude, I lived through 8 years of worrying about thought process (BUSH) it's a subjective reasoning. People like him more than they like his policies, but a lot of it is fear of change. I don't think he'll sink below GWB. I think it will be a while before that happens again. The man is hated on the left and the right felt betrayed by him. If Obama isolates himself from those who voted for the change he promised, THEN I see him joining GWB.

[Reds fan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Dude, I lived through 8 years of worrying about thought process (BUSH) it's a subjective reasoning. People like him more than they like his policies, but a lot of it is fear of change. I don't think he'll sink below GWB. I think it will be a while before that happens again. The man is hated on the left and the right felt betrayed by him. If Obama isolates himself from those who voted for the change he promised, THEN I see him joining GWB.

With all due respect, and I only speak for my self, I don't fear change. Go back a LOT more than 8 years and what we are looking at is a repeat of history. Imminently facing an unworldly deficit, staggering inflation, double digit unemployment and a social agenda to "change" the face of America. I do fear the repeat of the above, this is not "change", it is history. I lived through this in the 70's and 80's and by all indications the previous administration and the present have done and are doing nothing but sending the country down the same road, digging an ever deepening hole that will be even more difficult to fill.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Dude, I lived through 8 years of worrying about thought process (BUSH) it's a subjective reasoning. People like him more than they like his policies, but a lot of it is fear of change. I don't think he'll sink below GWB. I think it will be a while before that happens again. The man is hated on the left and the right felt betrayed by him. If Obama isolates himself from those who voted for the change he promised, THEN I see him joining GWB.




I guess I never realized just how deep the anti-Bush propaganda sunk into the minds of some Americans. Bush made a ton of mistakes and talked like a total moron at times but never once did he ever give the impression that he would do something that would forever alter the country that we live in. Dispite thousands and thousands of qualifed people(even his own) telling Obama that his healthcare plan will not work and will bankrupt this country he is still deadset on passing it. He doesn't have the experience, knowledge or intelligence to know more about this than the people who are fighting him on it yet he still pushes forward. The key to being a great leader is to know who to listen to and who not to. Obama has demonstrated none of that. He is pushing his healthcare plan on America even though Americans have made it plain they don't want it and people way smarter than he is have told him it won't work. That should worry us all.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I guess I never realized just how deep the anti-Bush propaganda sunk into the minds of some Americans. Bush made a ton of mistakes and talked like a total moron at times but never once did he ever give the impression that he would do something that would forever alter the country that we live in. Dispite thousands and thousands of qualifed people(even his own) telling Obama that his healthcare plan will not work and will bankrupt this country he is still deadset on passing it. He doesn't have the experience, knowledge or intelligence to know more about this than the people who are fighting him on it yet he still pushes forward. The key to being a great leader is to know who to listen to and who not to. Obama has demonstrated none of that. He is pushing his healthcare plan on America even though Americans have made it plain they don't want it and people way smarter than he is have told him it won't work. That should worry us all.
LOL that's about as 1 sided an analysis of a person as you can possibly get! Not only did W follow HORRIBLE advice, it cost thousands of lives because coat and ties thought they knew what they were doing because the Heritage Foundation and other conservative think tanks told them so. They increased spending in Medicare to give the pharmaceutical companies a nice injection of money w/no checks on how much they charged. (something the democrats were as guilty of allowing). He is pushing a health care plan YOU and some don't like. But the policy of fear tactics and no has effectively worked and is passed off as if it is something structurally wrong. Obama made too many promises he cant deliver on because so many congressman and senators are in the pocket of the middle man. It's funny seeing you call Obama inexperienced, what did W do? Ran a bunch of failed businesses and held the ceremonial position of governor in Texas. Rove was more the Pres that that nitwit.

[BleedOrange]

You absolutely haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. You are drinking too much Kool Aid under the guise of trying to play the middle. You may be left of R80. You completely ignore the facts to put forth your far left agenda. I am not sure what your background is but I am thinking educator. Your attempts to appear objective are just silly. Why don't you just admit what you are? I will do the same. I am a conservative. If you really look at FACTS and not the liberal fiction, which is based on revisionist history, you will see the light. Now its time for you to respond with your meaningless vernacular.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
You absolutely haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. You are drinking too much Kool Aid under the guise of trying to play the middle. You may be left of R80. You completely ignore the facts to put forth your far left agenda. I am not sure what your background is but I am thinking educator. Your attempts to appear objective are just silly. Why don't you just admit what you are? I will do the same. I am a conservative. If you really look at FACTS and not the liberal fiction, which is based on revisionist history, you will see the light. Now its time for you to respond with your meaningless vernacular. lol respond to what, empty ad hominem? And if you read further back I clearly state my position in a response to OC! Settle down there clown, save the disdain for something else your right wing media creates and bloviates about. lol so weird, but I really miss the days of Buckley, when intelligence wasn't a " liberal" thing haha at least then you could have a decent convo w/o all this vitriol and silly and stupidity.

[BleedOrange]

Originally posted by DDBooger
lol respond to what, empty ad hominem? And if you read further back I clearly state my position in a response to OC! Settle down there clown, save the disdain for something else your right wing media creates and bloviates about. lol so weird, but I really miss the days of Buckley, when intelligence wasn't a " liberal" thing haha at least then you could have a decent convo w/o all this vitriol and silly and stupidity.

Thank you! The fishing expedition worked. Your meaningless vernacular is out in abundance. LOL. You clearly state nothing. I think I hit the nail on the head. Try some self reflection and some objectivity and let the conservative light guide you. You really are funny and I must admit pretty good a saying nothing.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
Thank you! The fishing expedition worked. Your meaningless vernacular is out in abundance. LOL. You clearly state nothing. I think I hit the nail on the head. Try some self reflection and some objectivity and let the conservative light guide you. You really are funny and I must admit pretty good a saying nothing. Well when someone serves up feces I don't pull out the utensils and napkin lol. Try again there chief. You offered nothing! ;)

[DDBooger]

Then again considering you alls sources of information, you all do digest a healthy amount of s**t lol :p

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Well when someone serves up feces I don't pull out the utensils and napkin lol. Try again there chief. You offered nothing! ;)

Well, he was talking about you...:thinking:
I bet you'll have something nice to say about me now.:D
I thought you hated cliches? lol

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Well, he was talking about you...:thinking:
I bet you'll have something nice to say about me now.:D
I thought you hated cliches? lol Is that a cliche, damn, thought I Coined it lol what's up wiser than smart? :D ( however that works)

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Is that a cliche, damn, thought I Coined it lol what's up wiser than smart? :D ( however that works)

You don't address BleedOrange's or Farmersfan points(or at least most of them). You just deflect. You are good at it. It doesn't take long to catch on. lol

I'm doing GREAT! How are you doing "too smart for wisdom":D(tell me how that works later on)?

[BleedOrange]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Well when someone serves up feces I don't pull out the utensils and napkin lol. Try again there chief. You offered nothing! ;)

No need to try you have nothing to offer as usual. You don't fool me. Again if you want to join the real world give me a call and I can assist you in your misguided ways. I can only surmise the educator guess was spot on.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by SintonFan
You don't address BleedOrange's or Farmersfan points(or at least most of them). You just deflect. You are good at it. It doesn't take long to catch on. lol

I'm doing GREAT! How are you doing "too smart for wisdom":D(tell me how that works later on)? BleedOrange made no points he just came on here asking me to reveal myself for what he thinks I am...cool. How you deflect that I have no idea.

And please, don't pretend we have not had conversations here where I have DIRECTLY addressed everything posed to me. Enough so that every time I have exchanged or bantered I have received PMs from people to exchange pleasantries after. BO being the exception.

Too smart for wisdom lol still believing one can exist without the other, I suppose in your line of reasoning that is not a far fetched thing to comprehend.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
No need to try you have nothing to offer as usual. You don't fool me. Again if you want to join the real world give me a call and I can assist you in your misguided ways. I can only surmise the educator guess was spot on.
Well not trying to fool you and assist me with what? Right wing hypocrisy? I was in the real world before I sought higher learning. Because you people take the word of opinion pieces and silly talking heads doesn't make you a REAL WORLD person haha. Seriously, I get better exchanges from 18 y/o young Republicans. This is nothin but name calling and sticking out your tongue! haha So inept

[BleedOrange]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Well not trying to fool you and assist me with what? Right wing hypocrisy? I was in the real world before I sought higher learning. Because you people take the word of opinion pieces and silly talking heads doesn't make you a REAL WORLD person haha. Seriously, I get better exchanges from 18 y/o young Republicans. This is nothin but name calling and sticking out your tongue! haha So inept

I must have hit home. More inane BS. I sure hope your students aren't easily influenced by your lack of objectivity. Right wing hypocricy?? Tell me a lilttle about the Obama objectivity. Conversely, tell me about the hypocrisy Mr. Educator. You wouldn't last 10 minutes with my 12 year old. You have nothing to offer. Give me some facts and I will be happy to engage you in honest debate. Again you don't fool me and some others on here.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
BleedOrange made no points he just came on here asking me to reveal myself for what he thinks I am...cool. How you deflect that I have no idea.

And please, don't pretend we have not had conversations here where I have DIRECTLY addressed everything posed to me. Enough so that every time I have exchanged or bantered I have received PMs from people to exchange pleasantries after. BO being the exception.

Too smart for wisdom lol still believing one can exist without the other, I suppose in your line of reasoning that is not a far fetched thing to comprehend.

wow!(I left it understated for a reason, just for you lol) When did I say "one can exist without the other"? I never said that. I was talking about value or importance. Don't put words on my keyboard...
your just too clever for all of us(sorry it IS just me).
I'll make sure I send you some pheasantries(Marky Marx style)... in a PM of course.:nerd:
My prediction after this post:
you'll come back psycho-analyzing everything I posted in a positive way, right?
Go away! I am preparing my new Christmas show. You'll be happy to note I will have more than one secular song on my list.:D

[SintonFan]

Folks...
let me lighten this up a bit.:) Tomorrow is three months till Christmas! I might add this song to my display this year. Sweet.
Holdman Christmas (http://vimeo.com/440842)

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
I must have hit home.
again, you can feign that you're getting me, but doesn't make it so haha this is fun for me, I have a little time and I love playing with you all! :)


Originally posted by BleedOrange
More inane BS. opinions vary, yours holds little water.



Originally posted by BleedOrange
I sure hope your students aren't easily influenced by your lack of objectivity. Actually, most want to know my position, I feel no need to tell them and implore them to seek answers not watch FoxNews, MSNBC or any other corporate owned media or medium.



Originally posted by BleedOrange
Right wing hypocricy?? Tell me a lilttle about the Obama objectivity. hmmm did I state he was objective? Or did I state I don't see him as the answer or any different then his predecessors aside from his color? Either you meant something different or you are having problems getting your point across.


Originally posted by BleedOrange
Conversely, tell me about the hypocrisy Mr. Educator. You wouldn't last 10 minutes with my 12 year old. . In what, a pie eating contest? How to quote idiot dad and his right wing ramblings? Probably not, I don't recite moronic lunacy too well, or at least the kind shown here by you and your ilk.


Originally posted by BleedOrange
You have nothing to offer. not to the close minded, absolutely not! You are right there! ;)


Originally posted by BleedOrange
You Give me some facts and I will be happy to engage you in honest debate. Again you don't fool me and some others on here. LOL haha asking arbitrarily for facts about a topic not even mentioned nor discussed following statements you made that alluded to nothing other than asking me to proclaim my position honestly which I did earlier is hardly a position to ask someone to "state facts" haha serioiusly you can take a position of "I can't be fooled" but fool never believes he's fooled because the answers are set in stone already for them, hence you ignorance and unflinching dedication to ideology rather than continued knowledge.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by SintonFan
wow!(I left it understated for a reason, just for you lol) When did I say "one can exist without the other"? I never said that. I was talking about value or importance. Don't put words on my keyboard...
your just too clever for all of us(sorry it IS just me).
I'll make sure I send you some pheasantries(Marky Marx style)... in a PM of course.:nerd:
My prediction after this post:
you'll come back psycho-analyzing everything I posted in a positive way, right?
Go away! I am preparing my new Christmas show. You'll be happy to note I will have more than one secular song on my list.:D YAY! ;)

[BleedOrange]

Originally posted by SintonFan
wow!(I left it understated for a reason, just for you lol) When did I say "one can exist without the other"? I never said that. I was talking about value or importance. Don't put words on my keyboard...
your just too clever for all of us(sorry it IS just me).
I'll make sure I send you some pheasantries(Marky Marx style)... in a PM of course.:nerd:
My prediction after this post:
you'll come back psycho-analyzing everything I posted in a positive way, right?
Go away! I am preparing my new Christmas show. You'll be happy to note I will have more than one secular song on my list.:D

Isn't psycho analysis another term for "I can't cope so I need to tell others how "I" think".. DD will go back to his corner read some Das Kapital. I am hoping at some point he comes back with something enlightening. Might I suggest "Libetry and Tyranny" replace Das Kapital in your reading material. In all seriousness DD, please read it and learn. Do not reject it because of the
source.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
again, you can feign that you're getting me, but doesn't make it so haha this is fun for me, I have a little time and I love playing with you all! :)

opinions vary, yours holds little water.


Actually, most want to know my position, I feel no need to tell them and implore them to seek answers not watch FoxNews, MSNBC or any other corporate owned media or medium.


hmmm did I state he was objective? Or did I state I don't see him as the answer or any different then his predecessors aside from his color? Either you meant something different or you are having problems getting your point across.

In what, a pie eating contest? How to quote idiot dad and his right wing ramblings? Probably not, I don't recite moronic lunacy too well, or at least the kind shown here by you and your ilk.

not to the close minded, absolutely not! You are right there! ;)

LOL haha asking arbitrarily for facts about a topic not even mentioned nor discussed following statements you made that alluded to nothing other than asking me to proclaim my position honestly which I did earlier is hardly a position to ask someone to "state facts" haha serioiusly you can take a position of "I can't be fooled" but fool never believes he's fooled because the answers are set in stone already for them, hence you ignorance and unflinching dedication to ideology rather than continued knowledge.

I've never seen so many words used to build a house of cards...
You really do worship at the "Altar of knowledge", don't you?
Next thing you might say is, "Global Warming is real man!"
Come on... dice up my statements. But then I guess you'll probably say mine aren't worth it.:thinking:
I swear many of your quote-answers-unquote are set in stone.
I'm a proud Conservative... you have to hide behind the name of "Progressive".:D

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
Isn't psycho analysis another term for "I can't cope so I need to tell others how "I" think".. DD will go back to his corner read some Das Kapital. I am hoping at some point he comes back with something enlightening. Might I suggest "Libetry and Tyranny" replace Das Kapital in your reading material. In all seriousness DD, please read it and learn. Do not reject it because of the
source.

Come on DD. Read a book by a conservative right wing hack and "learn". :rolleyes:

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
Isn't psycho analysis another term for "I can't cope so I need to tell others how "I" think".. DD will go back to his corner read some Das Kapital. I am hoping at some point he comes back with something enlightening. Might I suggest "Libetry and Tyranny" replace Das Kapital in your reading material. In all seriousness DD, please read it and learn. Do not reject it because of the
source. BO you can call me all the names in the book and suggest I'm a commie and any other name calling. I am a ABSOLUTE NERD when it comes to reading, be it Ayn Rand and if you mean Liberty and Tyranny by Levin, I have read it, critiqued it and spent a lot of time debunking his distortion and perversion of true libertarianism which most people on the right have never fully analyzed. I have read a lot of Marx as have plenty of economics majors and theorists. HE is still considered an economists and his critiques have done more to help Capitalism to hurt. In fact a famous statement of his was to denounce Marxists by saying if that is Marxism I'm not a Marxists. Most attempts at it have not taken the path he spoke of which necessitated Capitalism. They chose to circumnavigate around that. I suggest you read him, Weber and Durkheim. While considered classics, they are surprisingly relevant today.

[BleedOrange]

Originally posted by SintonFan
I've never seen so many words used to build a house of cards...
You really do worship at the "Altar of knowledge", don't you?
Next thing you might say is, "Global Warming is real man!"
Come on... dice up my statements. But then I guess you'll probably say mine aren't worth it.:thinking:
I swear many of your quote-answers-unquote are set in stone.
I'm a proud Conservative... you have to hide behind the name of "Progressive".:D

Amen!! Totally lacking in substance.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by SintonFan
I've never seen so many words used to build a house of cards...
You really do worship at the "Altar of knowledge", don't you?
Next thing you might say is, "Global Warming is real man!"
Come on... dice up my statements. But then I guess you'll probably say mine aren't worth it.:thinking:
I swear many of your quote-answers-unquote are set in stone.
I'm a proud Conservative... you have to hide behind the name of "Progressive".:D Global Warming is real, whether it is is manmade is the "supposed" discourse.

You are a proud conservative that hid during the anything but conservative administration of W. thus I'd hardly call you a PROUD conservative as much as a bandwaggoning hack! ;) lol

No SF, I find your statements are normally coy and cute and set up to evoke only answers you have in mind. That works with young sloppy minded kids, but I've exchanged with far superior minds from your position.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
Isn't psycho analysis another term for "I can't cope so I need to tell others how "I" think".. DD will go back to his corner read some Das Kapital. I am hoping at some point he comes back with something enlightening. Might I suggest "Libetry and Tyranny" replace Das Kapital in your reading material. In all seriousness DD, please read it and learn. Do not reject it because of the
source.

Awesome book!
Gooberman should read it, but then again, he would have vote HIMSELF "Worst person onnnnn the Planet!":D
I love it when my neighbor starts quoting Mao and all it's wonderful "higher thinking" because we all know that those who follow that line of thinking know what's better for us than we do.:thinking: :inlove:

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
Amen!! Totally lacking in substance. LOL because you all agree doesn't make it so, if you hold hands and wish or PRAY, which is much the same perhaps it will be so! :) :p

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Awesome book!
Gooberman should read it, but then again, he would have vote HIMSELF "Worst person onnnnn the Planet!":D
I love it when my neighbor starts quoting Mao and all it's wonderful "higher thinking" because we all know that those who follow that line of thinking know what's better for us than we do.:thinking: :inlove: Mao, completely different line of thinking and originates from a cultural arena that has different values than us. Eastern philosophy is much different than Western. But go figure, you turning your nose to anything other than what is on Limbaugh's reading list is no big surprise.

[BleedOrange]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Mao, completely different line of thinking and originates from a cultural arena that has different values than us. Eastern philosophy is much different than Western. But go figure, you turning your nose to anything other than what is on Limbaugh's reading list is no big surprise.

God Bless America!! I know that offends you. Maybe you and Mao can have a love fest in the after life. Just because their values are different doesn't make them right. Also haven't looked at Limbaugh's reading list (and I can guarantee you haven't) but I am certain that list is inclusive of books whose values I would agree with. Now why don't you go to pull your Pelosi and Reid reading list out. I am sure it is no more complex thatn Green Eggs and Ham.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Global Warming is real, whether it is is manmade is the "supposed" discourse.

You are a proud conservative that hid during the anything but conservative administration of W. thus I'd hardly call you a PROUD conservative as much as a bandwaggoning hack! ;) lol

No SF, I find your statements are normally coy and cute and set up to evoke only answers you have in mind. That works with young sloppy minded kids, but I've exchanged with far superior minds from your position.


I am such the prophet. Wait!:doh: I guess I finally asked you to "dice me up". lol
Many long-term temperature models call for mild cooling through the next five years or so because of the Sun's activity. Why? Think man think! Get off that special cool-aid and stop worshiping the music from the group Anti-Human League you love so much.
Tell me something...
do you really think most Americans know what the Progressives stand for?
Why did you have to repackage that name from the DSoA name?:thinking:
But I digress...
I'm just Coy Detmer, cute as a puppy, who just happens to never wash their face.:D
Gni
I really do have to get my sequencing done.:eek: :eek:

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
LOL because you all agree doesn't make it so, if you hold hands and wish or PRAY, which is much the same perhaps it will be so! :) :p

Did you watch this or turn it off when you saw the title?

Originally posted by SintonFan
Folks...
let me lighten this up a bit.:) Tomorrow is three months till Christmas! I might add this song to my display this year. Sweet.
Holdman Christmas (http://vimeo.com/440842)

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by SintonFan
I am such the prophet. Wait!:doh: I guess I finally asked you to "dice me up". lol
Many long-term temperature models call for mild cooling through the next five years or so because of the Sun's activity. Why? Think man think! Get off that special cool-aid and stop worshiping the music from the group Anti-Human League you love so much.
Tell me something...
do you really think most Americans know what the Progressives stand for?
Why did you have to repackage that name from the DSoA name?:thinking:
But I digress...
I'm just Coy Detmer, cute as a puppy, who just happens to never wash their face.:D
Gni
I really do have to get my sequencing done.:eek: :eek: yeah, a 5 year span is an indication of climate cooling in the lifespan of the earth haha so silly.

I am thinking, we are tenants of the planet, and our extreme degradation and destruction of it WILL result in consequences. No doubt the coming century wars won't be fought over oil but drinking water. Pentagon is planning for it, Insurance companies are planning for it, everyone except the silly over religious people and deniers of reality. Good night! :)

[BleedOrange]

Originally posted by SintonFan
I am such the prophet. Wait!:doh: I guess I finally asked you to "dice me up". lol
Many long-term temperature models call for mild cooling through the next five years or so because of the Sun's activity. Why? Think man think! Get off that special cool-aid and stop worshiping the music from the group Anti-Human League you love so much.
Tell me something...
do you really think most Americans know what the Progressives stand for?
Why did you have to repackage that name from the DSoA name?:thinking:
But I digress...
I'm just Coy Detmer, cute as a puppy, who just happens to never wash their face.:D
Gni
I really do have to get my sequencing done.:eek: :eek:

The global warming issue confirms DD's lack of objectivity. No surprise. Hopefuly his students will reject authority. LOL. Conservative or Liberal if you look at the facts (not some left wing pundit) it is likely the biggest scam ever pulled on the American public.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
God Bless America!! I know that offends you. wow save your silly over patriotic self for a NRA convention where you can talk about how much you'd love to shoot liberals lol


Originally posted by BleedOrange
Maybe you and Mao can have a love fest in the after life. name calling name calling lol and I am lacking in substance haha

Originally posted by BleedOrange
Just because their values are different doesn't make them right. nor does it makes your right. But I understand in a narrow hallway that is your brain it is impossible to view things from varying angles


Originally posted by BleedOrange
Also haven't looked at Limbaugh's reading list (and I can guarantee you haven't) but I am certain that list is inclusive of books whose values I would agree with. absolutely, hatred, vitriol and ad hominem responses to honest questions. Oh and i'm sure commmie, fascists, hitler and other stuff that those idiots post up on boards when marching :)


Originally posted by BleedOrange
Now why don't you go to pull your Pelosi and Reid reading list out. lol yeah, because I run to the non-sports forum and post stuff they say on here like you all do everytime Fox has breaking news lmao please ;)


Originally posted by BleedOrange
I am sure it is no more complex thatn Green Eggs and Ham. I'd say that is an accurate description of the Republican agenda, simple, NO, bfuscate, confuse and scare! Can't be a Republican party w/o a boogie man, real or perceived.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
The global warming issue confirms DD's lack of objectivity. No surprise. Hopefuly his students will reject authority. LOL. Conservative or Liberal if you look at the facts (not some left wing pundit) it is likely the biggest scam ever pulled on the American public. Actually you have to add in all of science except for those purchased by the Energy industry. But we all know science is fake! :D

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
yeah, a 5 year span is an indication of climate cooling in the lifespan of the earth haha so silly.

I am thinking, we are tenants of the planet, and our extreme degradation and destruction of it WILL result in consequences. No doubt the coming century wars won't be fought over oil but drinking water. Pentagon is planning for it, Insurance companies are planning for it, everyone except the silly over religious people and deniers of reality. Good night! :)

wow
You're side really does believe, "The sky is falling!!!The sky is falling!!!"
:clap: :clap: :clap: :thinking: :D
Isn't it fascinating that you posted, "we are tenants of the planet"... but those who believe in HIM know we are tenants. The main difference is belief in a Benevolent power vs. belief in Mother Nature(who used to sell margarine back in the 70's when you were smaller than you are now.) lol
That must have made a HUGE impression. :D

OK OK OK
I really need to get out of here.
Did you see the video Boog?

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by SintonFan
wow
You're side really does believe, "The sky is falling!!!The sky is falling!!!"
:clap: :clap: :clap: :thinking: :D
Isn't it fascinating that you posted, "we are tenants of the planet"... but those who believe in HIM know we are tenants. The main difference is belief in a Benevolent power vs. belief in Mother Nature(who used to sell margarine back in the 70's when you were smaller than you are now.) lol
That must have made a HUGE impression. :D

OK OK OK
I really need to get out of here.
Did you see the video Boog? yes I know, some jewish zombie(him) will save us from our terrible damage inflicted on the planet. lol talking logically to people with that line of thinking as the basis for everything in their life is impossible.

No, I'm the furthest thing from a hippy, but go figure you generalizing is no big surprise! Simple our economic model based on unlimited growth, nature has limited resources. The two are in constant contradiction. unless remedied, it's inevitable that we will see a dark future. LOL funny that you think it is hippies who are drawing this up when it was the Pentagon drawing up plans for just these scenarios as well as insurance companies, and other industries based on prediction of future impediments to our civilization.

[DDBooger]

OH AND PLEASE, don't lecture about "the sky is falling" hahaha the League of Morons at Fox have that down pat! Again, the nerve lol Better hide your kids SF, they may be put in re-education camps!

OMG!!!! KIDS WERE SINGING ABOUT OBAMA!!!

HE'S A MUSLIM!!!!

HE'S ON THE SIDE OF TERRORISTS!!

HE CHANGED THE NAME OF THE WAR ON A BATTLEFIELD TACTIC (Terrorism)

HE WASN'T BORN HERE!!!

on and on and on! :D

such sheep

[DDBooger]

ACORN AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

THEY ARE SO SCARY AND COLORED!!!!

PIMPS AND HOS!!!

is it safe to have Muslims in D.C. marching?

WHY DO LIBERALS HATE FREEDOM!!!

LETS GET ALL THE FAT OLD PEOPLE AND MARCH ON DC in our scooters, NO TO SOCIALISM KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE!!!

DEATH PANELS

[BleedOrange]

Originally posted by DDBooger
wow save your silly over patriotic self for a NRA convention where you can talk about how much you'd love to shoot liberals lol

name calling name calling lol and I am lacking in substance haha
nor does it makes your right. But I understand in a narrow hallway that is your brain it is impossible to view things from varying angles

absolutely, hatred, vitriol and ad hominem responses to honest questions. Oh and i'm sure commmie, fascists, hitler and other stuff that those idiots post up on boards when marching :)

lol yeah, because I run to the non-sports forum and post stuff they say on here like you all do everytime Fox has breaking news lmao please ;)

I'd say that is an accurate description of the Republican agenda, simple, NO, bfuscate, confuse and scare! Can't be a Republican party w/o a boogie man, real or perceived.

You really make this easy. LOL> Talk to me about those scientist. Also, whats the problem with the NRA?? Its called the constitution!!! Because the NRA does not agree with your views they should be disbanded.? That's the difference between conservatives and liberals, we never try and prevent your rights under the constitution conversely liberals want to restrict the constitutional rights of conservatives. Discourse is healthy but it should not be at the expense of the alternate point of view.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
You really make this easy. LOL> Talk to me about those scientist. Also, whats the problem with the NRA?? Its called the constitution!!! Because the NRA does not agree with your views they should be disbanded.? That's the difference between conservatives and liberals, we never try and prevent your rights under the constitution conversely liberals want to restrict the constitutional rights of conservatives. Discourse is healthy but it should not be at the expense of the alternate point of view. Easy should be your middle name, it certainly applies when I think of exchanging thoughts with you! ;)

About what scientists? Over 99%of peer reviewed science journals don't deny it, in fact many deniers have now jumped on board, yet the only question for them is just how significant our additions are to the environment. Really you should read more then right wing hog wash.

Absolutely nothing wrong with owning guns, I own 4. But the NRA is just fool of over compensating small penises needing a gun to feel self assured :) haha j/k but seriously no one is gonna take your guns away! :rolleyes:

and please, Conservatives never try to prevent rights? haha like abortion, gay marriage (which would make it easy for all those gays in the closet in the Republican party) and other things you guys deem UN-CHRISTIAN. I can connect with fiscal conservatives much more than social conservatives.

[BleedOrange]

Originally posted by DDBooger
ACORN AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

THEY ARE SO SCARY AND COLORED!!!!

PIMPS AND HOS!!!

is it safe to have Muslims in D.C. marching?

WHY DO LIBERALS HATE FREEDOM!!!

LETS GET ALL THE FAT OLD PEOPLE AND MARCH ON DC in our scooters, NO TO SOCIALISM KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE!!!

DEATH PANELS

Don't they say ignorance is bliss? You are the poster child. Thank God people are not as easily swayed as you. You would be a classic study in why liberals ultimately end up conservatives. I think intellectually some day you will figure it out. In the interim, we will have to chuckle but be concerned at your deference to reality. You have similar traits to Obama. VERY SCARY!!!

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
Don't they say ignorance is bliss?

I'm sure you can elaborate on that for us!


Originally posted by BleedOrange
You are the poster child. I'd describe ya in the same manner for individuals that should have been ingested or aborted. ;)


Originally posted by BleedOrange
Thank God people are not as easily swayed as you. Actually, my last study shows a much more concerned conservative populace about the environment and issues generally thought of as liberal. It's just old set in their way ignorant fools as yourself who would rather be wrong and be Republican or conservative.


Originally posted by BleedOrange
You would be a classic study in why liberals ultimately end up conservatives. Conversely, you'd be an excellent specimen in how ignorance is generational!


Originally posted by BleedOrange
I think intellectually some day you will figure it out. In the interim, we will have to chuckle but be concerned at your deference to reality. Again, you can act self-righteous, but because you pretend your right doesn't make it so! None the less, you have more hope in my regressing in thought than I have for you progressing (liberal)haha


Originally posted by BleedOrange
You have similar traits to Obama. VERY SCARY!!! And you to Rush, probably look like him too! Let me ask you, do you lock up your prescription medication. It must be, judging from your responses I don't think you've taken them in quite some time! :D

[BleedOrange]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Easy should be your middle name, it certainly applies when I think of exchanging thoughts with you! ;)

About what scientists? Over 99%of peer reviewed science journals don't deny it, in fact many deniers have now jumped on board, yet the only question for them is just how significant our additions are to the environment. Really you should read more then right wing hog wash.

Absolutely nothing wrong with owning guns, I own 4. But the NRA is just fool of over compensating small penises needing a gun to feel self assured :) haha j/k but seriously no one is gonna take your guns away! :rolleyes:

and please, Conservatives never try to prevent rights? haha like abortion, gay marriage (which would make it easy for all those gays in the closet in the Republican party) and other things you guys deem UN-CHRISTIAN. I can connect with fiscal conservatives much more than social conservatives.


That is the most absurd thing I have ever read. In fact, most scientist, not receiving gov't funding, believe global warming attributable to human activity is miniscule. You should read more than left wing hog wash. I can assure you I do. But when it comes to substance the left is severely lacking.

Also with regard to abortion, gary marriage, etc. when did those become rights? The bottom line it shoud be left to the states to determine allowable activities, not the federal gov't. That is the whole crux of our constitution. You should try reading it. While I am not a proponent of abortion or gay marriage the States need to decide on these issues not the feds.

Finally, why don't you share with me how you share with the fiscal conservatives? It would be interesting interpretive economics and good fodder.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
That is the most absurd thing I have ever read. In fact, most scientist, not receiving gov't funding, believe global warming attributable to human activity is miniscule. yes I know the global conspiracy of scientists is scary haha so silly you people

Originally posted by BleedOrange
\ou should read more than left wing hog wash. I can assure you I do. But when it comes to substance the left is severely lacking. oh absolutely, I love reading make-believe and contrived text to manipulate hate and disdain for those on the left. Seriously, I do read them.


Originally posted by BleedOrange
Also with regard to abortion, gary marriage, etc. when did those become rights? The bottom line it shoud be left to the states to determine allowable activities, not the federal gov't. Since they were Americans like you and me! But I'll give you this much, I do see a middle ground with states deciding. I think I could live with that


Originally posted by BleedOrange
That is the whole crux of our constitution. You should try reading it. While I am not a proponent of abortion or gay marriage the States need to decide on these issues not the feds. Oh I have, I just don't worship the thing as you people who are supposed Christians yet revere it to the point of idoltry. I happen to like it's malleability you people seem to prefer it's strict interpretation. I guess the middle east isn't the only place with fundamentalists.


Originally posted by BleedOrange
Finally, why don't you share with me how you share with the fiscal conservatives? It would be interesting interpretive economics and good fodder. I believe in controlling of spending. Smaller govt being that I see it as the tool of the corporate entities that manipulate it to generate funds thought govt contracts. Be it no bid or bid. As well as the Fed's biggest responsibility to rescue banks and corporations that use risk of money for money with no product. Derivatives, hedge funds etc.
I believe in a more cooperative libertarianism that gives the stake holders not just stock holders power over their product and shared risk. Where as it is now, they carry all the risk when a decision is made by a person who likely never stepped foot in the industry's halls or factories.

[DDBooger]

And just to be a good person...I hope you understand I don't mean any of those things or names I called ya. I think you're smart, your just an idealogue. I listen to right and left when the conversation is adult like and rational. When slogans and other silliness is left out. IT is funny. You have no idea how great the conversations are when people can talk to each other in that manner. I think the discourse sown by our media really cuts us like a knife and makes us forget we are Americans whether black, brown, white or yellow, left or right, liberal or conservative. So much hate. I love it when I have intelligent discourse in class between students of opposite ideology and watch them work it out in a manner that I think we could if only the media didn't highlight only our differences. I still have hope in us as a nation. But rotting doesn't begin on the left or right but I think it foments when we see each other as just that and not compatriots. Sad place we're at, and I've been guilty of harsh words myself. Even a teacher can learn from students and kids! I wish ya well BO, aside from our barrage of childish remarks I think we could have a more adult like convo next time! ;)

[BleedOrange]

Originally posted by DDBooger
And just to be a good person...I hope you understand I don't mean any of those things or names I called ya. I think you're smart, your just an idealogue. I listen to right and left when the conversation is adult like and rational. When slogans and other silliness is left out. IT is funny. You have no idea how great the conversations are when people can talk to each other in that manner. I think the discourse sown by our media really cuts us like a knife and makes us forget we are Americans whether black, brown, white or yellow, left or right, liberal or conservative. So much hate. I love it when I have intelligent discourse in class between students of opposite ideology and watch them work it out in a manner that I think we could if only the media didn't highlight only our differences. I still have hope in us as a nation. But rotting doesn't begin on the left or right but I think it foments when we see each other as just that and not compatriots. Sad place we're at, and I've been guilty of harsh words myself. Even a teacher can learn from students and kids! I wish ya well BO, aside from our barrage of childish remarks I think we could have a more adult like convo next time! ;)

DD I think there is probably alot of ground that we may have in common that may surprise us both. I agree on the adult convo also. I can be guilty of lack of civilitywhich I am not necessarily proud of. Sometimes passion rears its ugly head. Finally, I realize you see me as an idealogue but I assure you I am not. Could it be that we are just diametrically opposed with different interpretations on the issues at hand?

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
Could it be that we are just diametrically opposed with different interpretations on the issues at hand? I couldn't have articulated a better response! ;)

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by DDBooger
And just to be a good person...I hope you understand I don't mean any of those things or names I called ya. I think you're smart, your just an idealogue. I listen to right and left when the conversation is adult like and rational. When slogans and other silliness is left out. IT is funny. You have no idea how great the conversations are when people can talk to each other in that manner. I think the discourse sown by our media really cuts us like a knife and makes us forget we are Americans whether black, brown, white or yellow, left or right, liberal or conservative. So much hate. I love it when I have intelligent discourse in class between students of opposite ideology and watch them work it out in a manner that I think we could if only the media didn't highlight only our differences. I still have hope in us as a nation. But rotting doesn't begin on the left or right but I think it foments when we see each other as just that and not compatriots. Sad place we're at, and I've been guilty of harsh words myself. Even a teacher can learn from students and kids! I wish ya well BO, aside from our barrage of childish remarks I think we could have a more adult like convo next time! ;)

I love it when you claim others are set in their ways but you will defend yours without the possibility that you are set in yours. Hypocrisy at it's best. You are NOT OPEN-MINDED... you are more close-minded than your students ever could be... put together.
Read this link about the original intent of Obama's indoctrination of kids: [/URL]
Here.. enjoy this video we won't call "indoctrination by leftist":
[URL=http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/09/23/school-kids-sing-about-the-greatness-of-obama-no-indoctrination-there/]Do you want you kids to be indoctrinated? (http://townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2009/09/02/abusing_school_kids_with_pro-obama_propaganda)

I'm glad you can occasionally be a good arrogant person but what you espouse is indefensible. :eek:

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by BleedOrange
DD I think there is probably alot of ground that we may have in common that may surprise us both. I agree on the adult convo also. I can be guilty of lack of civilitywhich I am not necessarily proud of. Sometimes passion rears its ugly head. Finally, I realize you see me as an idealogue but I assure you I am not. Could it be that we are just diametrically opposed with different interpretations on the issues at hand?
Don't let him trick you.
He has an agenda and preys on your ability to be a gentleman.
Watch how he treats others who don't see his point of view. Or don't bend to his will.:(

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by SintonFan
I love it when you claim others are set in their ways but you will defend yours without the possibility that you are set in yours. Hypocrisy at it's best. You are NOT OPEN-MINDED... you are more close-minded than your students ever could be... put together.
Read this link about the original intent of Obama's indoctrination of kids: [/URL]
Here.. enjoy this video we won't call "indoctrination by leftist":
[URL=http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/09/23/school-kids-sing-about-the-greatness-of-obama-no-indoctrination-there/]Do you want you kids to be indoctrinated? (http://townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2009/09/02/abusing_school_kids_with_pro-obama_propaganda)

I'm glad you can occasionally be a good arrogant person but what you espouse is indefensible. :eek:

Originally posted by SintonFan
Don't let him trick you.
He has an agenda and preys on your ability to be a gentleman.
Watch how he treats others who don't see his point of view. Or don't bend to his will.:(
lol you are the precise type of person I need to stop being like! :dispntd:
Such an angry man...yes I know Obama is gonna indoctrinate the kids...I'll return when the discussion is intelligent again, me and Borange made amends, I have done the same with Pick6, OldBison, even BillyFred, I think you just have a personal vendetta. It's understood!

[DDBooger]

you know it's funny, I didn't do anything but extend a proverbial olive branch, but I think you want people to hate me! "Don't believe him" lol As if I'm manipulating people. I didn't ask him to change his beliefs or anything of that sort. But we agreed to be more civil next time. Yet who comes crying in. Seriously man, be it you thinking you uncovered some alternative motive by declaring I'm IDoCare to this, it really is pathetic. You once left to spend more time with your children. I think you need to do it again and quit worring about people agreeing to disagree and doing so civilly! It's very telling of your intent.

[LH Panther Mom]

:ack!: :ack!: There's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back. :(