Cowboys draft a Kicker and....

[CelinaCatFan]

he outlifted 25 of the offensive lineman (25 reps on benchpress) at the combine in this year's draft!

He was just interviewing on 1310 The Ticket radio station about his performance at the combine this year. He's 6-2 (225 pounds) and runs a 4.5.

[WylieBulldog92]

Originally posted by CelinaCatFan
he outlifted 25 of the offensive lineman (25 reps on benchpress) at the combine in this year's draft!

He was just interviewing on 1310 The Ticket radio station about his performance at the combine this year. He's 6-2 (225 pounds) and runs a 4.5.
Lemme guess is it Gano?

[CelinaCatFan]

David Buehler from USC

[crzyjournalist03]

Supposedly, he's going to be the kickoff specialist and possibly be a special teams tackler on punts.

[Farmersfan]

Most of the ESPN personalities said the Cowboys had a horrible draft. They said the only good player they got was the LB in the third round and they drafted him WAY too early.... What do you guys think?

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Most of the ESPN personalities said the Cowboys had a horrible draft. They said the only good player they got was the LB in the third round and they drafted him WAY too early.... What do you guys think?

What draft were you watching?:confused:


The Raiders were the ones taking a beating.:thinking:

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
What draft were you watching?:confused:


The Raiders were the ones taking a beating.:thinking:


The Raiders had a worse draft maybe, but the Cowboys still had a bad one. All the analysts agreed that the Cowboys did nothing to help themselves.

[c-town_balla]

not alot you can do with only 2nd day picks

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by c-town_balla
not alot you can do with only 2nd day picks

True, I mean I like Stephen McGee and Stephen Hodge. Texas boys are cool to see play for the 'Boys. But still, they didn't get any players that will really impact the team this year. Except for maybe that kicker, that if I am not mistaken played some Safety at USC also. Read an article about that a few weeks back.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
True, I mean I like Stephen McGee and Stephen Hodge. Texas boys are cool to see play for the 'Boys. But still, they didn't get any players that will really impact the team this year. Except for maybe that kicker, that if I am not mistaken played some Safety at USC also. Read an article about that a few weeks back.

I think the problem with draft grades is they ook simply at what those players will mean for the team RIGHT now

I dont think Dallas went into the draft saying ok we need to draft 3 or 4 guys we can insert into the starting line ups this year. They went in looking to rebuild their special teams with young athletic guys and to build up some depth at certain positions.

IMO they did just that

McGee and Johnson might end up being steals of the draft if they develop.

People like Williams and Hodge are going to come in and asked to be nothing but Special Teams players. If they play that role, then this draft was a good one for Dallas no matter what the grades are.

[BwdLions]

Jerry Jones is not very bright when it comes to drafting players. He needs to let someone else handle the draft. He took Stephen McGee? The Cowboys didn't need a QB. They have Kitna to back-up Romo. They needed DBs and WRs. Why waste their first pick on a questionable QB when you don't need one?

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by BwdLions
Jerry Jones is not very bright when it comes to drafting players. He needs to let someone else handle the draft. He took Stephen McGee? The Cowboys didn't need a QB. They have Kitna to back-up Romo. They needed DBs and WRs. Why waste their first pick on a questionable QB when you don't need one?

McGee was their third pick, and Kitna is most likely on his last year.

The best hope for the Cowboys is that McGee develops over the next two to three years and puts himself in position to be a starter elsewhere a la Matt Hasselback behind Brett Favre a few years back. That worked out nicely for everybody involved.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by BwdLions
Jerry Jones is not very bright when it comes to drafting players. He needs to let someone else handle the draft. He took Stephen McGee? The Cowboys didn't need a QB. They have Kitna to back-up Romo. They needed DBs and WRs. Why waste their first pick on a questionable QB when you don't need one?

Well A...McGee was not their first pick of the day, he was the third pick

B. Romo is 29 years old. He is not going to be around unless he turns into a Farve or Garcia for more than 4-5 years.

Green Bay drafted Aaron Rodgers and sat him until Brett was gone and this allowed them to have a QB ready to step in

Also stockpiling QBs is NEVER a bad thing. You can use them or trade them if they show promise and get picks for them( like Green Bay did with Mark Brunell which resulted in a picking him in mid rounds and trading him for a 1st round.

I would have no problem if for the next 3-4 drafts Dallas picks a QB somewhere in the 4-6 round range

I DONT want another situation like after Aikman, where Dallas was NOT ready and spent the next 6 years looking, and honestly only getting LUCKY in finding Romo in the undrafted pile

[Twirling Time]

The Cowboys also have a lot of undrafted FA's they will sign. Three or four of those always seem to make the team every year. But yeah, they needed to fix safety and I don't think they did in the draft.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Twirling Time
The Cowboys also have a lot of undrafted FA's they will sign. Three or four of those always seem to make the team every year. But yeah, they needed to fix safety and I don't think they did in the draft.


I think Hamlin( the drafted one) can compete, they also signed Gerald from Jacksonville

no, they did not get any NAME guys but they did get some solid guys at the SS position

[BwdLions]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Also stockpiling QBs is NEVER a bad thing. You can use them or trade them if they show promise and get picks for them( like Green Bay did with Mark Brunell which resulted in a picking him in mid rounds and trading him for a 1st round.

I don't agree with stockpiling players regardless of position. You should draft players based on need. If somehow you just don't need any specific positions filled due to need (which will never happen), then you draft the best available players. Another thing, I don't anticipate McGee having any trade value. It just didn't make any sense to me.

[WylieBulldog92]

Originally posted by BwdLions
I don't agree with stockpiling players regardless of position. You should draft players based on need. If somehow you just don't need any specific positions filled due to need (which will never happen), then you draft the best available players. Another thing, I don't anticipate McGee having any trade value. It just didn't make any sense to me.
You're also a Longhorn fan.
And no, you draft for talent, or you trade down to get the player you want you simply do not reach like the Chiefs did.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by BwdLions
I don't agree with stockpiling players regardless of position. You should draft players based on need. If somehow you just don't need any specific positions filled due to need (which will never happen), then you draft the best available players. Another thing, I don't anticipate McGee having any trade value. It just didn't make any sense to me.


I never said they should take a QB no matter what, I said I would have no problem if they took a QB in the later rounds if that is best player on the board.

We have NO CLUE what type of value McGee has to the Cowboys or anyone

Right now a young QB was IMO a real need..again Romo is not a 25 yr old guy, he is 29 and we really do not know how many years he has left.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
What draft were you watching?:confused:


The Raiders were the ones taking a beating.:thinking:


Kiper graded both the Raiders and the Cowboys a D for their draft. It's tough to see the 'boys being rated even with the Raiders.

[BwdLions]

Originally posted by WylieBulldog92
You're also a Longhorn fan.

I was waiting for someone to point that out. Believe it or not, it has nothing to do with what college I root for. I have nothing against McGee. I thought he was a great high school player. He could have been a great college QB if A&M would have used him right. It's my opinion that the Cowboys didn't need a QB (any QB) when they have much greater needs.

[Ex-Tiger2005]

I think this has to be one of the worst drafts for the Boys in a while...I'm still pulling for them tho.

[Electus Unus]

Cowboys drafted nothing but S/T players aside from McGee.

[Pick6]

Originally posted by Electus Unus
Cowboys drafted nothing but S/T players aside from McGee.

Robert Brewster, 6-4, 312, what position on special teams will he play?

[Electus Unus]

Originally posted by Pick6
Robert Brewster, 6-4, 312, what position on special teams will he play? PAT ;)

[Pick6]

Originally posted by Electus Unus
PAT ;)

Nice try there, but as usual, you're most likely wrong.

[Electus Unus]

Originally posted by Pick6
Nice try there, but as usual, you're most likely wrong. He isn't going to start. Nobody the Cowboys drafted will be a starter. Nothing but S/T players

[Pick6]

Originally posted by Electus Unus
He isn't going to start. Nobody the Cowboys drafted will be a starter. Nothing but S/T players

Who said he would start? You said they only drafted S/T players except for 1. You were wrong, as usual.

[Electus Unus]

Originally posted by Pick6
Who said he would start? You said they only drafted S/T players except for 1. You were wrong, as usual. how am I wrong. Everyone one of the players drafted by the Cowboys except for McGee will make their living being backups and special teams players.

[Pick6]

Originally posted by Electus Unus
how am I wrong. Everyone one of the players drafted by the Cowboys except for McGee will make their living being backups and special teams players.

So now you change it to S/T and backups? Anything else you want to change about your original post?

[Electus Unus]

Originally posted by Pick6
So now you change it to S/T and backups? Anything else you want to change about your original post? In the league backups are S/T players. I don't know if you know that or not.

[Pick6]

Originally posted by Electus Unus
In the league backups are S/T players. I don't know if you know that or not.

If backups are S/T players then why isn't McGee a S/T? I didn't realize that Jon Kitna was a S/T player also since he's a backup.

[crzyjournalist03]

I don't think Manuel Johnson is going to have an impact on special teams...he'll most likely be the fourth wide receiver.

[waterboy]

:confused: I thought the first "backup" player was the same as S/T. If you're not a starter, doesn't that make you S/T? Only time will tell how the 'Boys did in this draft. It's definitely premature to say that they didn't find a few "diamonds in the rough". Let the players get their chance before we pass judgment.

[waterboy]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
I don't think Manuel Johnson is going to have an impact on special teams...he'll most likely be the fourth wide receiver.
I agree. He will be given his chance, hopefully, to shine at camp, and in the preseason. Unless he outshines some of the other players in front of him, he will be a backup. Hopefully, he will be able to shine, and give the Cowboys another WR option.

[Bull's-eye]

Jerry basically said he was tired of paying big money for veteran backup QB's. The Cowboys had a chance to develope a young QB over the next couple of years and they decided to use one of their three 4th round picks. No, it wasn't a pressing need, but a move that should save them some cap space in the future.

IMO, there will be some pleasant surprises in their draft. They took some guys that were lower picks because of injuries or they played at a small school. Some of the players are projected into a new position (remember Darren Woodson) or played out of position in college. The LB Jason Williams ran a 4.49 second 40 yd dash, which was faster than any LB at the combine. One scout said his overall workout was better than any LB tested at the combine, including Aaron Curry. He may not start for the Cowboys, but he should see playing time as a nickel backer. Several of their picks were extremely good at rushing the passer, stripping the ball or intercepting the ball. Winning the turnover battle usually means a better chance of winning the game.

Dallas was one of the worse teams on kickoff coverage and made a point to improve in that area. They drafted a kicker that can put the ball in the endzone, something Folk couldn't do. Yes, they will have to carry 2 kickers, but this Buehler kid has the ability to contribute in other special team roles. DeAngelo Smith can return kicks and punts, something the Cowboys lacked. Jimmy Johnson once said there were 3 phases a team needed to win: Offense, Defense & Special teams. The Cowboys just made their special teams a lot better.