I need advice from a "HACKER" or detective or....HELP!!!

[Ranger Mom]

Or an idea of where to find one.

Without going into too much detail, I need to find someone to hack into a computer (or whatever they call it when law enforcement, or whoever, gets into someones computer and can pull up all the stuff they have tried to delete) and get as much dirt as possible for a child custody case.

Can you just hire someone to do that??

(This has NOTHING to do with me or my family...just trying to help out a friend!!)

[pirate4state]

HAHAHAHA

Only you Kell :D :D

[Electus Unus]

Call Tom Sellek...he's a pretty good PI.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by pirate4state
HAHAHAHA

Only you Kell :D :D

I'm serious!!

He has already found one incriminating letter that the stupid bimbo forgot to delete, but he needs more!!!!

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I'm serious!!

He has already found one incriminating letter that the stupid bimbo forgot to delete, but he needs more!!!!

One ain't enough to kick her to the curb?:confused:

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
One ain't enough to kick her to the curb?:confused:

Oh...it is a LONG story!

Rape accusations.

False imprisonment.

It is gonna get WAY ugly!!


I am on his side though....she is one crazy piece of work!!

[SintonFan]

I googled "how to retrieve deleted files on the computer" and lots of options came up.

[Emerson1]

Well I would think if you hack into the computer and illegally gain evidence you can't use it. There are plenty of programs you can run though that will recovered deleted files.

[SWMustang]

Originally posted by Emerson1
Well I would think if you hack into the computer and illegally gain evidence you can't use it. There are plenty of programs you can run though that will recovered deleted files.

that's what I think - if it's his computer it shouldn't be a problem. If you want someone to illegally gain access to someone else's computer that's wrong and illegal. Per the board rules, I don't believe we're supposed to talk about illegal stuff or high school kids.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Emerson1
Well I would think if you hack into the computer and illegally gain evidence you can't use it. There are plenty of programs you can run though that will recovered deleted files.

How can you illegally gain evidence from your own computer??

It is his computer, but his wife of 9 years used it too. By the time he was able to get the court order for her to give it to him, she had deleted her novel she is writing (what a joke) and some other stuff.

What we are looking for more than anything is internet searches.

Kinda like the Casey Anthony story, where they found where she searched "how to make chloroform" and that kind of stuff.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by SWMustang
Per the board rules, I don't believe we're supposed to talk about illegal stuff or high school kids.

Don't worry about, I clarified in my above post!:rolleyes:

[SintonFan]

It might be best to consult a detective K.

[Bullaholic]

IMO, you need to be guided by your friend's attorney before poking around in anyone's computer in a divorce proceeding.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
One ain't enough to kick her to the curb?:confused:

No unfortunately. Family law requires emminent threat before anything can be done. Otherwise it takes a lot of case building.
The legal system really was not designed for family issues and it is more than difficult to get anything done and takes a lot of time and money.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
IMO, you need to be guided by your friend's attorney before poking around in anyone's computer in a divorce proceeding.

I am not doing any of this myself...the computer is in Florida, I just seem to be the person they ask to find out things.

He was at his attorney's office when he found the letter....so she has a copy.

His mother knows I talk a lot on here, so she wanted me to ask, on her sons behalf. his lawyer may already be on top of it....but let him take his computer with him, so it doesn't seem like it!

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
No unfortunately. Family law requires emminent threat before anything can be done. Otherwise it takes a lot of case building.
The legal system really was not designed for family issues and it is more than difficult to get anything done and takes a lot of time and money.

Unless you cry RAPE....and then the other can get thrown in jail for 10 days, with no evidence, no benefit of a judge, just on the word of some crazy B*#ch who has cried wolf before.

[ronwx5x]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
How can you illegally gain evidence from your own computer??

It is his computer, but his wife of 9 years used it too. By the time he was able to get the court order for her to give it to him, she had deleted her novel she is writing (what a joke) and some other stuff.

What we are looking for more than anything is internet searches.

Kinda like the Casey Anthony story, where they found where she searched "how to make chloroform" and that kind of stuff.

RM, why is it you know so many people with legal problems? You need some new runnin' buddies!:thinking:

[SintonFan_inAustin]

not sure how far back it goes or could be limit to amount of memory you allocated to temporary internet files but if you click on Tools on you web browers and then internet options. Then next screen look for browsing history and click on settings and then next screen click on view objects. It will show you every site in order you visited and unless you reached the max memory allowed.

[BEAST]

Since he has the computer, he could take it to any number of people who work on computers for a living. If they are any good they can get whatever it is you are looking for. We have a guy that comes in and works on all our computers. Its is scary what this guy can do. Ive never seen the screens and all that he pulls up to fix stuff.




BEAST

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
not sure how far back it goes or could be limit to amount of memory you allocated to temporary internet files but if you click on Tools on you web browers and then internet options. Then next screen look for browsing history and click on settings and then next screen click on view objects. It will show you every site in order you visited and unless you reached the max memory allowed. view files not objects.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by ronwx5x
RM, why is it you know so many people with legal problems? You need some new runnin' buddies!:thinking:

LOL!! Don't I though??

I have met this guy in person once in my life, so I don't think we can be considered "runnin' buddies"....I am good friends with his mother though!

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Oh...it is a LONG story!

Rape accusations.

False imprisonment.

It is gonna get WAY ugly!!


I am on his side though....she is one crazy piece of work!!

FBI

[jason]

ill do it for $10,000

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by jason
ill do it for $10,000

They are actually debating the cost of this and hiring a PI!!

I think $10,000 may be a little out of his price range though!!

That was exact amount he paid to bond out....he didn't want a bail bonds man, so he just paid the full amount!

[OldBison75]

Make it simple==go to Best Buy Geek Squad. They can actually do a system retrieval that will identify anything that has been viewed or deleted for the life of the computer. The only wasy to completely clean the hard drive is to do a total system format and completely re-install a new operating system and programs. Even then, a certain portion of the disc will contain some data that was not deleted, but can only be accessed with a system retrieval program.

A person in Bryan, Texas was in the news a few years back that bought a used computer from the newspaper want ads and it had the operating system deleted. He took it to the Geeks and when they tried to recover the operating system, they found a ton of child porn on the computer and called police. The former owner was arrested for possession and distribution of child porn.

By the way, the Geeks only charged a couple of hundred dollars for this fine detective work.

[sahen]

the whole drilling a hole in the hard drive trick makes more sense now....i think im just gonna burn all my old computer hard drives or something though, this seems too freaky taht they can get all that stuff....

[rancher]

Having experience in such matters, if it is his computer and under his care custody and control, he has an expection to privacy. Thus legally you better get a court order or warrant. If not, you can be in serious legal trouble, something like jail time.

[Txbroadcaster]

are people not reading? The guy who OWNS the computer wants to retrieve anything deleted off of it, RM is not doing anything illegal

[shankbear]

If it is his computer he can do anything that he wants to do with it. Have this done by a professional. There may be questions regarding chains of custody of any evidence. Just letting any bozo geek mess with it may get even the best evidence tossed.

Myspace, Facebook and other social networking sites have landed plenty of people in court. Emails are some of the most potent pieces of evidence.

Do it right in the event her lawyer attempts to challenge it. If it ends up as a criminal matter it must be right to survive a motion to suppress.

Good luck

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by shankbear
If it is his computer he can do anything that he wants to do with it. Have this done by a professional. There may be questions regarding chains of custody of any evidence. Just letting any bozo geek mess with it may get even the best evidence tossed.

Myspace, Facebook and other social networking sites have landed plenty of people in court. Emails are some of the most potent pieces of evidence.

Do it right in the event her lawyer attempts to challenge it. If it ends up as a criminal matter it must be right to survive a motion to suppress.

Good luck

That was my fear. He has found an incriminating email she deleted, but didn't delete from the "deleted mail"...what a ditz!!:rolleyes:

Also, some interesting searches she made BEFORE the allegations.....fortunately he has turned all the information over to his attorney and told her he wanted to hire someone to delve into his computer further, so she is taking care of that.

Thanks for all the info though, one of the tips on here led him to the search engine and therefore a motherload of information that looked like she was trying to set him up!

[rancher]

Is the guy married or common law, if this is the fact, he may be in a join community state. If that is the case, she has a legal right to it also. Another twist, if he left it, then it could be abandoned property. Thus in some aspects, it could be hers legally. Best advice and money spent, seek legal counsel where the action is going to be taken. If I were advising him, go to the divorce courts, ask the deputies and baliffs in the court who are the best attorneys and hire that person.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by rancher
Is the guy married or common law, if this is the fact, he may be in a join community state. If that is the case, she has a legal right to it also. Another twist, if he left it, then it could be abandoned property. Thus in some aspects, it could be hers legally. Best advice and money spent, seek legal counsel where the action is going to be taken. If I were advising him, go to the divorce courts, ask the deputies and baliffs in the court who are the best attorneys and hire that person.

Married 9 years. He had to get a court order to get HIS computer....it was one he bought for work (he works from home.) He is no longer in the house, she had him arrested and when he FINALLY got out of jail 10 days later, all his stuff was in his boat in front of the house....except his wallet with his credit cards, cash, and computer.

[rancher]

Is he in a community property state? BEST LEGAL ADVICE AND THIS IS FREE, no legal fee here. Go to the courts that will have judgement in his case, buy the baliff's, deputies or court clerks coffee, lunch or drinks and find out who are best lawyers. Trust me, they will be well worth the money to resolve the issue in his favor. If not, he will just keep making stupid mistakes, going to jail and costing him just as much as a good barrister would. He would be way ahead in the long run and best of all no time spent in jail for making a poor decision that will be on his record for the rest of his life. You never KNOW WHEN THIS WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU LATER IN LIFE.