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Ranger Mom
02-13-2009, 10:05 AM
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BOY dad Alfie Patten yesterday admitted he does not know how much nappies cost — but said: “I think it’s a lot.”

Baby-faced Alfie, who is 13 but looks more like eight, became a father four days ago when his girlfriend Chantelle Steadman gave birth to 7lb 3oz Maisie Roxanne.

He told how he and Chantelle, 15, decided against an abortion after discovering she was pregnant.


The shy lad, whose voice has not yet broken, said: “I thought it would be good to have a baby.

“I didn’t think about how we would afford it. I don’t really get pocket money. My dad sometimes gives me £10.”

Alfie, who is just 4ft tall, added: “When my mum found out, I thought I was going to get in trouble. We wanted to have the baby but were worried how people would react.

“I didn’t know what it would be like to be a dad. I will be good, though, and care for it.”

Alfie’s dad Dennis told how the lad does not really understand the enormity of his situation — but seemed desperate to be a devoted and responsible father.
Secret

He wanted to be the first to hold Maisie after the hospital birth. He tenderly kisses the baby and gives her a bottle.

And Dennis, 45, said: “He could have shrugged his shoulders and sat at home on his Playstation. But he has been at the hospital every day.”

Maisie was conceived after Chantelle and Alfie — just 12 at the time — had a single night of unprotected sex.

They found out about the baby when Chantelle was 12 weeks pregnant.

But they kept it a secret until six weeks later when Chantelle’s mum Penny, 38, became suspicious about her weight gain and confronted her.

After that Alfie’s family told only those closest to them for fear he would be “demonised” at school.

Chantelle gave birth to Maisie on Monday night after a five-hour labour at Eastbourne Hospital, East Sussex.

Last night she told The Sun: “I’m tired after the birth. I was nervous after going into labour but otherwise I was quite excited.”

Chantelle told how she discovered she was expecting after going to her GP with “really bad” stomach pains. She said: “Me and Alfie went. The doctor asked me whether we had sex. I said yes and he said I should do a pregnancy test. He did the test and said I was pregnant. I started crying and didn’t know what to do.

“He said I should tell my mum but I was too scared.

“We didn’t think we would need help from our parents. You don’t really think about that when you find out you are pregnant. You just think your parents will kill you.”

But Penny figured out what was going on after buying Chantelle a T-shirt which revealed her swelling tum.

Chantelle admitted she and Alfie — who are both being supported by their parents — would be accused of being grossly irresponsible. She said: “We know we made a mistake but I wouldn’t change it now. We will be good loving parents.

“I have started a church course and I am going to do work experience helping other young mums.

“I’ll be a great mum and Alfie will be a great dad.”

Chantelle and Maisie were released from hospital yesterday. They are living with Penny, Chantelle’s jobless dad Steve, 43, and her five brothers in a rented council house in Eastbourne. The family live on benefits. Alfie, who lives on an estate across town with mum Nicola, 43, spends most of his time at the Steadmans’ house.

He is allowed to stay overnight and even has a school uniform there so he can go straight to his classes in the morning.

Alfie’s dad, who is separated from Nicola, believes the lad is scared deep down.

He said: “Everyone is telling him things and it’s going round in his head. It hasn’t really dawned on him. He hasn’t got a clue of what the baby means and can’t explain how he feels. All he knows is mum and dad will help.

“When you mention money his eyes look away. And she is reliant on her mum and dad. It’s crazy. They have no idea what lies ahead.”

Dennis, who works for a vehicle recovery firm, described Alfie as “a typical 13-year-old boy”.

He said: “He loves computer games, boxing and Manchester United.” Dennis, who has fathered nine kids, told how he was “gobsmacked” when he discovered Alfie was to be a dad, too.

He said: “When I spoke to him he started crying. He said it was the first time he’d had sex, that he didn’t know what he was doing and of the complications that could come.

“I will talk to him again and it will be the birds and the bees talk. Some may say it’s too late but he needs to understand so there is not another baby.”
Lovely

Chantelle’s mum said: “I told her it was lovely to have the baby but I wish it was in different circumstances. We have five children already so it’s a big financial responsibility. But we are a family and will pull together and get through.

“She’s my daughter. I love her and she will want for nothing.”

Last night Michaela Aston, of the anti-abortion Christian charity LIFE, said: “We commend these teenagers for their courage in bringing their child into the world.

“At the same time this is symptomatic of the over-sexualisation of our youngsters and shows the policy of value-free sex education just isn’t working.”

Today Sussex Police and the local council's children services said they have investigated the case and pledged continued support for the young parents.

Britain’s youngest known father is Sean Stewart. He became a dad at 12 when the girl next door, 15-year-old Emma Webster, gave birth in Sharnbrook, Bedford, in 1998. They split six months later.

Link to story and additional pictures (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece)

kaorder1999
02-13-2009, 10:08 AM
wow :eek:

eagles_victory
02-13-2009, 10:12 AM
Feel bad for the kids parents if they dont raise this kid noone will. Sex at 13 that thought would of never crossed my mind at that age well maybe it would of but noone way I would of went through with it.

pirate4state
02-13-2009, 10:12 AM
what in the holy hell :foul: i think i need to NOT comment on this story and how stupid people can be

LH Panther Mom
02-13-2009, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by pirate4state
what in the holy hell :foul: i think i need to NOT comment on this story and how stupid people can be
:ditto:

44INAROW
02-13-2009, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by pirate4state
what in the holy hell :foul: i think i need to NOT comment on this story and how stupid people can be :ditto: :ditto:

IHStangFan
02-13-2009, 10:21 AM
Interesting....so many for legalizing pot....but raising hell about kids having kids. Hell...at least the kid is trying to do the right thing. Talk about double standards, LOL.

kaorder1999
02-13-2009, 10:23 AM
this kid has put himself in a crappy situation...good luck to him. I hope he grows up quick and can be all that he can be for that baby!

pirate4state
02-13-2009, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by IHStangFan
Interesting....so many for legalizing pot....but raising hell about kids having kids. Hell...at least the kid is trying to do the right thing. Talk about double standards, LOL. Where did I say anything about legalizing pot?

My issue is not so much with the kids themselves, but with their "parents" and the media publicizing this like it's a warm fuzzy story.

crzyjournalist03
02-13-2009, 10:25 AM
And thus dies one of the world's greatest myths:

"If your voice hasn't cracked, you haven't dropped, and you can't conceive."

Sorry G2, but you're going to have to figure out another line now that this kid has ruined it for you...

IHStangFan
02-13-2009, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by pirate4state
Where did I say anything about legalizing pot?

My issue is not so much with the kids themselves, but with their "parents" and the media publicizing this like it's a warm fuzzy story. who said I was talking to/at you directly...I don't recall saying you said anything.

pirate4state
02-13-2009, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by IHStangFan
who said I was talking to/at you directly...I don't recall saying you said anything. well i was the only one raising :foul: and saying what the holy hell

goosealaniz
02-13-2009, 10:27 AM
i want to laugh at this story... but i cant... i just cant...

IHStangFan
02-13-2009, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by pirate4state
well i was the only one raising :foul: and saying what the holy hell (shrug)...I wasn't talking directly to you...was making an observation based on the fact that it was even posted and people were replying to it in the manner which it has been replied too....but if you're feeling guilty or the shoe fits.....

eagles_victory
02-13-2009, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
And thus dies one of the world's greatest myths:

"If your voice hasn't cracked, you haven't dropped, and you can't conceive."

Sorry G2, but you're going to have to figure out another line now that this kid has ruined it for you... Im in a similar situation just hoping none of the girls I know hear about this story :helpme:

Matthew328
02-13-2009, 10:43 AM
Gotta have sex ed in like 5th grade now a days....LOL it all comes down to parents educating their kids.

crzyjournalist03
02-13-2009, 10:54 AM
seriously, maybe I was naive, but I honestly don't think I would have known how to have sex when I was 13 if I had wanted to.

orange machine
02-13-2009, 11:09 AM
Great scott:confused:

LH Panther Mom
02-13-2009, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Matthew328
Gotta have sex ed in like 5th grade now a days....LOL it all comes down to parents educating their kids.
:doh: We had it when I was a 5th grader. Or I should say the girls got to watch a movie on "stuff".....the boys said they watched football. :thinking:

turbostud
02-13-2009, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
:doh: We had it when I was a 5th grader. Or I should say the girls got to watch a movie on "stuff".....the boys said they watched football. :thinking:

HaHa:D

Thats the way it was when I was in school. The girls got to watch videos but we didnt watch anything at all.

turbostud
02-13-2009, 11:16 AM
4ft tall at 13????? My daughter is 4ft 2in and she just turned 6. Get ready WNBA!

44INAROW
02-13-2009, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
:doh: We had it when I was a 5th grader. Or I should say the girls got to watch a movie on "stuff".....the boys said they watched football. :thinking:

same here - we watched "the movie" and learned about "our friend" while the boys got to do "whatever" hopefully the boys are getting "the talk" now too.............

Ranger Mom
02-13-2009, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by pirate4state
Where did I say anything about legalizing pot?

My issue is not so much with the kids themselves, but with their "parents" and the media publicizing this like it's a warm fuzzy story.

Based on the PM I got, I am pretty sure he is talking to me!

Cameron Crazy
02-13-2009, 11:42 AM
winner winner chicken dinner!

IHStangFan
02-13-2009, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Based on the PM I got, I am pretty sure he is talking to me! since we're goin all public w/ it....I guess I was.

Ranger Mom
02-13-2009, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by IHStangFan
since we're goin all public w/ it....I guess I was.

And.....we have agreed to disagree!!:D

IHStangFan
02-13-2009, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Ranger Mom
And.....we have agreed to disagree!!:D yes....yes we have, LOL.

SintonFan
02-13-2009, 02:00 PM
Did any of you catch the part of the story when he said "I will be good, though, and care for it". He's still a child, without the realization that babies aren't "its".
This is so sad...

pirate4state
02-13-2009, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by IHStangFan
(shrug)...I wasn't talking directly to you...was making an observation based on the fact that it was even posted and people were replying to it in the manner which it has been replied too....but if you're feeling guilty or the shoe fits..... not feeling guilty and no shoe ever fits me just right

PPHSfan
02-13-2009, 02:04 PM
My favorite part was the ten pounds of pocket money.

PPHSfan
02-13-2009, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by pirate4state
not feeling guilty and no shoe ever fits me just right

Have you tried Prada?

Txbroadcaster
02-13-2009, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by IHStangFan
Interesting....so many for legalizing pot....but raising hell about kids having kids. Hell...at least the kid is trying to do the right thing. Talk about double standards, LOL.

sorry but how is it a double standard? Just because someone is for legalizing pot does not mean they are ok with kids having babies

pirate4state
02-13-2009, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by PPHSfan
Have you tried Prada? No, but if you'll send me $ I will gladly try Prada. :)

PPHSfan
02-13-2009, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by pirate4state
No, but if you'll send me $ I will gladly try Prada. :)

Trust me. They hurt your feet.

pirate4state
02-13-2009, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by PPHSfan
Trust me. They hurt your feet.

Ok

Bullaholic
02-13-2009, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by PPHSfan
Trust me. They hurt your feet.

Pic from the past to prove it.....

http://www.pcpros-tx.com/manskirt.jpg

PPHSfan
02-13-2009, 02:14 PM
Dang Internet.

Nothing is sacred anymore.

pirate4state
02-13-2009, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Bullaholic
Pic from the past to prove it.....

http://www.pcpros-tx.com/manskirt.jpg

Before the accident :D :D

LH Panther Mom
02-13-2009, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by pirate4state
Before the accident :D :D
:evillol: :evillol: :evillol: :doh:

Ranger Mom
02-13-2009, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
sorry but how is it a double standard? Just because someone is for legalizing pot does not mean they are ok with kids having babies

I agree!!

big daddy russ
02-13-2009, 03:03 PM
Let's go back to some of the facts....

-The boy is 13. He impregnated her back when he was 12.

-He's all of 4' tall.

-He's dating an older woman.



Maybe I should take dating tips from him.

pirate4state
02-13-2009, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by big daddy russ
Let's go back to some of the facts....

-The boy is 13. He impregnated her back when he was 12.

-He's all of 4' tall.

-He's dating an older woman.



Maybe I should take dating tips from him.

but, but....you are married! :( :D

bobcat4life
02-15-2009, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
:doh: We had it when I was a 5th grader. Or I should say the girls got to watch a movie on "stuff".....the boys said they watched football. :thinking:

At my school, the guys just talked about it with a teacher and the girls watched a movie.

bobcat4life
02-15-2009, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by big daddy russ
Let's go back to some of the facts....

-The boy is 13. He impregnated her back when he was 12.

-He's all of 4' tall.

-He's dating an older woman.



Maybe I should take dating tips from him.

Ive been missing out. Whats his secret. I just need to remember condoms and im good.

Astrosdawg07
02-15-2009, 01:43 PM
Oh, dear. The sad story of 13-year-old father Alfie Patten and 15-year-old mother Chantelle Steadman just keeps getting worse- it turns out Patten's sister, Jade, now 19, also had a baby at 13 years old.

Patten, who evidently didn't "didn't know what he was doing and of the complications that could come," according to his father, Dennis, apparently didn't get the education he needed, which is even more infuriating when you consider that his sister also had a child at 13. "I will talk to him again and it will be the birds and the bees talk. Some may say it's too late but he needs to understand so there is not another baby," Dennis insists, but perhaps someone needs to talk to Dennis about the birds and the bees and needing to understand so there's not another baby, no?

Alfie's half-sister, Nicole, blames their father, who left the family two years ago for a 19-year-old girl, for Alfie's behavior: "I blame my dad for Alfie getting Chantelle pregnant. If it wasn't for him, Alfie wouldn't be in this situation. When dad left it tore the family to pieces. Alfie's mum took her eyes off the ball - And Alfie looked for comfort somewhere else to take his mind off things."

But perhaps the most disturbing aspect of this story is the immediate blame placed on now 15-year-old Chantelle Steadman, whose reputation as a slut and a member of a family who collects state benefits is being splattered all over the papers as a defense of young Alfie Patten: "'She's been with quite a few lads. They are allowed to sleep over at her house, her parents don't mind. She is treated like an adult and can do what she wants," says one neighbor. "She knows lots of boys and never has the same boyfriend for long. Alfie lives with her and seems to think he's the dad but we all think he should have a DNA test," says another.

The pictures of Alfie and Chantelle are shocking and quite sad; yet what is lost amongst the uproar regarding Alfie's prepubescent appearance is the fact that Chantelle is a child too: she was 14 when she became pregnant, and perhaps instead of pointing fingers at Chantelle, calling her a slut, and questioning her attraction to a boy two years her junior, we should be questioning the environment that brought these children together and produced a child in the first place.

"I know I'm young, but I plan to be a good dad," Alfie Patten says, "I think we'll be good parents. I'll have to work extra hard at school."

"When I was pregnant the police and social workers came to interview us and they decided that we would make good parents to Maisie," Steadman agrees, "We will prove to everyone that we can be, and give her a great future."

Whether Steadman and Patten will be able to provide a great future for Maisie is yet to be seen, but one can't help but feel that society, as a whole, has already failed them as children. Let's hope that instead of turning their lives into a tabloid freakshow, we can somehow give them the education, support, and opportunities they missed out on as children to provide them, and their daughter, with a much brighter future.

http://jezebel.com/5153642/13+year+old-fathers-sister-also-had-a-baby-at-13

stangGirl2007
02-15-2009, 07:32 PM
I heard about this story the other day. That's insane. He really does look like he's about 8!:eek: :eek: