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SintonFan
02-10-2009, 11:49 PM
This speech was broadcast by Paul Harvey, April 3, 1965

If I were the Devil . . . I mean, if I were the Prince of Darkness, I would of course, want to engulf the whole earth in darkness. I would have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population, but I would not be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree, so I should set about however necessary to take over the United States. I would begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: “Do as you please.” “Do as you please.” To the young, I would whisper, “The Bible is a myth.” I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I would confide that what is bad is good, and what is good is “square”. In the ears of the young marrieds, I would whisper that work is debasing, that cocktail parties are good for you. I would caution them not to be extreme in religion, in patriotism, in moral conduct. And the old, I would teach to pray. I would teach them to say after me: “Our Father, which art in Washington” . . .

If I were the devil, I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull an uninteresting. I’d threaten T.V. with dirtier movies and vice versa. And then, if I were the devil, I’d get organized. I’d infiltrate unions and urge more loafing and less work, because idle hands usually work for me. I’d peddle narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. And I’d tranquilize the rest with pills. If I were the devil, I would encourage schools to refine Young intellects but neglect to discipline emotions . . . let those run wild. I would designate an atheist to front for me before the highest courts in the land and I would get preachers to say “she’s right.” With flattery and promises of power, I could get the courts to rule what I construe as against God and in favor of pornography, and thus, I would evict God from the courthouse, and then from the school house, and then from the houses of Congress and then, in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and I would deify science because that way men would become smart enough to create super weapons but not wise enough to control them. If I were Satan, I’d make the symbol of Easter an egg, and the symbol of Christmas, a bottle. If I were the devil, I would take from those who have and I would give to those who wanted, until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious. And then, my police state would force everybody back to work. Then, I could separate families, putting children in uniform, women in coal mines, and objectors in slave camps. In other words, if I were Satan, I’d just keep on doing what he’s doing.

Paul Harvey, Good Day.

SintonFan
02-11-2009, 12:27 AM
I heard this around 1993-94 on his radio broadcast.

waterboy
02-11-2009, 09:18 AM
I think Paul Harvey is a very wise man.:thumbsup:

Farmersfan
02-11-2009, 09:31 AM
The 60's were a very trying time for a lot of people but for Harvey to associate all the things he didn't agree with as "Satans Tools" could be listed as one of the ultimate "throwing of stones in glass houses".................
Most people would list the expansion of media (both print and radio) as one of the biggest catalysts for change in America. And Harvey made millions from this.

Trashman
02-11-2009, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
The 60's were a very trying time for a lot of people but for Harvey to associate all the things he didn't agree with as "Satans Tools" could be listed as one of the ultimate "throwing of stones in glass houses".................
Most people would list the expansion of media (both print and radio) as one of the biggest catalysts for change in America. And Harvey made millions from this.

So your saying paul Harvey is satan?:thinking: :smoker: :fnypost: :spitlol:

DDBooger
02-11-2009, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Trashman
So your saying paul Harvey is satan?:thinking: :smoker: :fnypost: :spitlol:
he's not saying that at all, but speaking in terms of the larger picture, that he is part of the large media machine that manufactures consent and opinion. It's funny to hear people think they're experts by listening to Limbaugh, Olberman, Hannity or Franken. Nevermind that you're only getting half the story, it must be fact if people took the time to write or dictate it to you! Truth be known, some peoples lives are so fast, they scramble for what ever news they can get, hence the trap many fall into.

Trashman
02-11-2009, 01:12 PM
Can't disagree with that. Darnit!

Farmersfan
02-11-2009, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Trashman
So your saying paul Harvey is satan?:thinking: :smoker: :fnypost: :spitlol:


I have always liked Paul Harvey. I was simply pointing out that in this instance he used his position of influence to classify all the things he disliked as reasons for the ruination to come in America. What he fails to mention is the fact that the entity that enabled him to bring this message to the public and to earn his fortune is also the same entity that creates, spreads and glorifies all those "Evil" things he mentions. So in order for his message to be taken serious he needed to quit his job, give back all that money and go live in a cave somewhere. Otherwise he is doing nothing except using the currrent and future "Satanic" conditions to earn himself a profit.....
It's no different than listening to Joel Osteen preach about the evils of modern society and the love and greed of money in the world and then watch him fly off in his personal heliocopter headed for his multi-million dollar home.......
The thing that I find so disheartening is that people actually STILL listen to these people........

Farmersfan
02-11-2009, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by DDBooger
he's not saying that at all, but speaking in terms of the larger picture, that he is part of the large media machine that manufactures consent and opinion. It's funny to hear people think they're experts by listening to Limbaugh, Olberman, Hannity or Franken. Nevermind that you're only getting half the story, it must be fact if people took the time to write or dictate it to you! Truth be known, some peoples lives are so fast, they scramble for what ever news they can get, hence the trap many fall into.



And normally they will CULL the information and take only that which serves their sensibilities and conveniently disregard all the rest.....

SintonFan
02-11-2009, 08:40 PM
Did either one of you look at the date at which this was posted? It was 1965...
I doubt he was very wealthy then or made much money off of his commentary/opinion piece, and if he did more power to him.
I think the relevance of his speech is even more powerful today. Why folks are looking to pick this apart instead of just looking at it's face value is beyond me.
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Farmersfan, how can you draw similarities with Paul Harvey and spiritual leaders (please use generic terms so as not to get this thread banned)? I don't understand how someone making a profit is suddenly "evil"... please enlighten me Obi won.:p

Farmersfan
02-12-2009, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by SintonFan
Did either one of you look at the date at which this was posted? It was 1965...
I doubt he was very wealthy then or made much money off of his commentary/opinion piece, and if he did more power to him.
I think the relevance of his speech is even more powerful today. Why folks are looking to pick this apart instead of just looking at it's face value is beyond me.
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Farmersfan, how can you draw similarities with Paul Harvey and spiritual leaders (please use generic terms so as not to get this thread banned)? I don't understand how someone making a profit is suddenly "evil"... please enlighten me Obi won.:p



Paul Harvey uses radio as his tool for the dissemination of his message. A message that labels many of the aspects of society that he doesn't agree with as "Tools of Satan". Many of the "Tools of Satan" and the general change of lifestyle that he speaks out against are promoted and even created by the very media that he is a part of. Most of his rhetoric is nothing more than nostalgia and resistance to change. A change that saw America go from a country of racists, sexists and religious zealots to being closer to a much more diversified country that promotes freedom of expression and new ideas. And 99% of the things he mentioned in this speech have been around as long as mankind has been around but "MEDIA" had made it mainstream America. I'm pretty sure that Satan didn't just start whispering his message in the sixties.
I understand the underlying intent of his message and even agree with some of it but I also stand by my statement that Paul Harvey should not throw stones because he lives in one of the BIGGEST glass houses on the block.

Farmersfan
02-12-2009, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by SintonFan
Farmersfan, how can you draw similarities with Paul Harvey and spiritual leaders (please use generic terms so as not to get this thread banned)? I don't understand how someone making a profit is suddenly "evil"... please enlighten me Obi won.:p [/B]



At what point did anyone say making a profit was evil? Nobody said anything was evil except Paul Harvey.

PPHSfan
02-12-2009, 11:58 AM
People who live in Glass Houses should always throw stones. If nobody ever breaks any glass there would be nothing to do. Here is how the quote should read.

"People who live in Glass Houses should not take showers....especially if they are fat. Nobody wants to look at fat people taking showers."

Farmersfan
02-12-2009, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by PPHSfan
People who live in Glass Houses should always throw stones. If nobody ever breaks any glass there would be nothing to do. Here is how the quote should read.

"People who live in Glass Houses should not take showers....especially if they are fat. Nobody wants to look at fat people taking showers."




"Brilliant"!!!

Question: If a fat person takes a cold shower does the "Shrinkage" factor make them look less fat??????:D :D

SintonFan
02-13-2009, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Paul Harvey uses radio as his tool for the dissemination of his message. A message that labels many of the aspects of society that he doesn't agree with as "Tools of Satan". Many of the "Tools of Satan" and the general change of lifestyle that he speaks out against are promoted and even created by the very media that he is a part of. Most of his rhetoric is nothing more than nostalgia and resistance to change. A change that saw America go from a country of racists, sexists and religious zealots to being closer to a much more diversified country that promotes freedom of expression and new ideas. And 99% of the things he mentioned in this speech have been around as long as mankind has been around but "MEDIA" had made it mainstream America. I'm pretty sure that Satan didn't just start whispering his message in the sixties.
I understand the underlying intent of his message and even agree with some of it but I also stand by my statement that Paul Harvey should not throw stones because he lives in one of the BIGGEST glass houses on the block.
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I think his speech was in question to values/virtue and is relevant today. Why do good folks choose to let bad things happen? Is it because we all live in "Glass Houses"(you don't have to be perfect to point out the obvious)? If we never spoke up in the defense of morality or values then I guess we'd just descend to chaos...
next thing you know folks will say if it feels good just do it...
oops
sorry
:thinking:

IHStangFan
02-13-2009, 01:45 AM
:clap:

Farmersfan
02-13-2009, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by SintonFan
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I think his speech was in question to values/virtue and is relevant today. Why do good folks choose to let bad things happen? Is it because we all live in "Glass Houses"(you don't have to be perfect to point out the obvious)? If we never spoke up in the defense of morality or values then I guess we'd just descend to chaos...
next thing you know folks will say if it feels good just do it...
oops
sorry
:thinking:


Great point! And I'm just being the "devils advocate" in my counter points. You claim that sometimes we need to point out the obvious when it comes to morality or values but I say that morality and values cannot be "Obvious". These are subjective terms. They cannot be "obvious" unless we agree to them being obvious. I guess I have issues with this speech on several levels including the fact that he is stating that "Satan" has a bigger hand in things in the 60's than he had previously. That is wrong in so many ways we could discuss it for a month. IMHO!!:hand:

SintonFan
02-13-2009, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Great point! And I'm just being the "devils advocate" in my counter points. You claim that sometimes we need to point out the obvious when it comes to morality or values but I say that morality and values cannot be "Obvious". These are subjective terms. They cannot be "obvious" unless we agree to them being obvious. I guess I have issues with this speech on several levels including the fact that he is stating that "Satan" has a bigger hand in things in the 60's than he had previously. That is wrong in so many ways we could discuss it for a month. IMHO!!:hand:
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I understand what you are saying (don't you hate it when folks say "I see what you are saying..." how is that possible?).

Farmersfan
02-13-2009, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by SintonFan
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I understand what you are saying (don't you hate it when folks say "I see what you are saying..." how is that possible?).



Isn't that kind of like saying: I hear what you are seeing?