Hooke'em

[eagleqb_14]

Texas wins a nail biter in Waco against the Baylor Bears..... Texas improves to 4-1 in conference play.:clap:

[BMOC]

As the Head Coach, he has never lost to Baylor. Baylor played well and shot well, UT defense took it up a notch at the end and walked away with a "W".

[injuredinmelee]

good win. Wish we could pick up a win or two against some top ten opponents this season though.

[BwdLions]

Baylor has good athletes. They're just undisciplined and don't play as a team. I'm glad they didn't, but they should have beaten Texas last night.

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by BwdLions
Baylor has good athletes. They're just undisciplined and don't play as a team. I'm glad they didn't, but they should have beaten Texas last night.

They also don't know how to play defense at all.

[STAggie]

Baylor's Coach, Drew, is a hell of a recruiter. His only problem is he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. His teams always have talent but he has no idea how to make them play defense or run an X and Os type offense. All they do is run and gun and when their shots aren't falling the don't have an inside presence to make up for it.

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by STAggie
Baylor's Coach, Drew, is a hell of a recruiter. His only problem is he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. His teams always have talent but he has no idea how to make them play defense or run an X and Os type offense. All they do is run and gun and when their shots aren't falling the don't have an inside presence to make up for it.

You just hit the nail on the head. You also just pointed out that talent doesn't win you anything. Good call!

[STAggie]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
You just hit the nail on the head. You also just pointed out that talent doesn't win you anything. Good call!

Why thank you. Everyone always talks how Drew is the best young coach in the Big XII and he is going to do great things. On the other end is Jeff Capel, who I believe is one of the top 3 coaches in the Big XII, but all you ever hear is how he is to young. Funny how things like that work out.

[cameron91]

still alot of basket ball left to play , so let keep cheering for UCLA and Nova..Maybe they can jump back in the top 10 before the season is over. We all know UCLA will win the PAC 10 ..

[Cameron Crazy]

Texas did not play like a #11 team in the nation. They will have to step it up for the next couple games.

[mwynn05]

Originally posted by STAggie
Baylor's Coach, Drew, is a hell of a recruiter. His only problem is he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. His teams always have talent but he has no idea how to make them play defense or run an X and Os type offense. All they do is run and gun and when their shots aren't falling the don't have an inside presence to make up for it. this is a pretty stupid statement unless you are close to the program and know things the average person wouldn't know about things that go on in that program...that program was given almost a death penalty less than a decade ago

[STAggie]

Originally posted by mwynn05
this is a pretty stupid statement unless you are close to the program and know things the average person wouldn't know about things that go on in that program...that program was given almost a death penalty less than a decade ago

How is it a stupid statement. The guy has more 5 star recruits on his roster than most teams who make the tourny every year. I don't have to be "close to the program" to watch Baylor and realize they don't play defense or have an inside presence. Or the fact that they rely to heavily on the 3 ball. So what does being "close to the program" have to do with that. As far as the death penalty it sure hasn't stopped them from recruiting so that argument is null and void. Not being able to utilize the talent that is on your team is the mark of a bad coach. Or is there some other way to measure a coaches ability other than how his players play the game?

[Phil C]

Originally posted by STAggie
Baylor's Coach, Drew, is a hell of a recruiter. His only problem is he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. His teams always have talent but he has no idea how to make them play defense or run an X and Os type offense. All they do is run and gun and when their shots aren't falling the don't have an inside presence to make up for it.

They used to say similar things about Coach Mack Brown at UT until he won that National Championship a few years ago.

[STAggie]

Originally posted by Phil C
They used to say similar things about Coach Mack Brown at UT until he won that National Championship a few years ago.

Coaching footbal to coaching Basketball isn't much of a comparission on the subject of pure talent. It is much easier to put together a group of 6-9 good players on a basketbal team then it is to put together a complete football team. Why do you think so many schools can one year be the best team in the nation (Kansas) and the next battling for a spot in the top 25.

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by mwynn05
this is a pretty stupid statement unless you are close to the program and know things the average person wouldn't know about things that go on in that program...that program was given almost a death penalty less than a decade ago Watch out this guy coaches little dribblers.

[sahen]

Drew has brought in good recruits to waco year after year...however he has had a senoir class he recruited for only 2 years now, before that they were all walkons (minus his first year where it was guys who didnt transfer, so it was 2 seniors +walkons)....the first year with a senior class he brought the Bears to the tournament for the first time in TWENTY years....this year we have been ranked for 7 weeks, before this year in our history we were ranked for only 5....Drew's problem is that the good recruits he has brought in have all been guards and hardly any big men, thus the 3 ball mentality...all of those guards have also not been long lanky guards traditionally known for being defensive minded guards....basically, what happens is every game we have no answer for teams that have a go to guy downlow and we get out rebounded like none other...if you notice last night when Quincy Acy was in the game baylor was ahead (he is one of the first true big guy mentality guys Drew has been able to get to waco), Acy got his fourth foul when the Bears were ahead and had to sit, at that time Texas goes on a run by pounding the rock down low and rebounding, Acy comes back but cant play aggressive and Texas had the momentum to win the game (plus a horrible choke job by mr. reliable Tweety Carter at the line, that was odd)....Drew can teach and coach all he wants but you cant do much to coach height and size, he has to recruit it....after this year we should be a much mroe balanced team (Acy looks to be very good and we have a transfer who was def. freshman of the year in the Big 10 last year), if we are still the horrible defensive and run and gun 3 shooting team after this year then i will question Drew's coaching, until then i think he is playing to the strengths of what he has....

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
Watch out this guy coaches little dribblers.


Originally posted by STAggie
How is it a stupid statement. The guy has more 5 star recruits on his roster than most teams who make the tourny every year. I don't have to be "close to the program" to watch Baylor and realize they don't play defense or have an inside presence. Or the fact that they rely to heavily on the 3 ball. So what does being "close to the program" have to do with that. As far as the death penalty it sure hasn't stopped them from recruiting so that argument is null and void. Not being able to utilize the talent that is on your team is the mark of a bad coach. Or is there some other way to measure a coaches ability other than how his players play the game?

Baylor doesnt have one five star recruit according to rivals on their current roster they dont have one player who was in the top 40 the year he came out of high school have a few guys hovering around 50 like Jerrells, Rogers, and Dunn. If you watch college basketball most teams do rely heavily on the 3 ball it is just the way the game is played and you said yourself they dont have an inside presence so what do you want them to do force it inside to their lack of inside players?

He took Baylor to the tournament last year for the first time in a long time. They play the way they do because they are a guard oriented team and any guard oriented team plays up tempo basketball like that.

[sahen]

Baylor's first 5 star according to Rivals is commited now...he wont graduate til 2010....

I do think Dunn may have been a Scout 5 star, not sure though...

[STAggie]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
Baylor doesnt have one five star recruit according to rivals on their current roster they dont have one player who was in the top 40 the year he came out of high school have a few guys hovering around 50 like Jerrells, Rogers, and Dunn. If you watch college basketball most teams do rely heavily on the 3 ball it is just the way the game is played and you said yourself they dont have an inside presence so what do you want them to do force it inside to their lack of inside players?

He took Baylor to the tournament last year for the first time in a long time. They play the way they do because they are a guard oriented team and any guard oriented team plays up tempo basketball like that.

Lomers was a 4-5 star coming out of high school along with a few others. You don't have to shoot the three just because you don't have a go to big man. The problem not only with Baylor but all of college ball is the lack of actual set plays and things to try and get an open look at the basket. To many teams try to rely on an outside shot that when not falling leaves you in store for a long night. He is making strides but with the talent he has making the tournament and being one and done isn't really a success. Hell with the talent he has he should be competing for a top spot in the Big XII and at least two rounds in the tourny. I would love for A&M to have a couple of your guys. If we could combine your guards with our big men that would be a scary team. Just because you play up tempo basketball doesn't mean you have to play poor defense and shoot a quick three.

[sahen]

lomars was not a 4-5 star...he was just a 4 star and was obviously over rated...the kid gives it 110% every game but lacks anywhere near the speed to compete consistantly every night at the big 12 level...plus he is a walking foul due to his speed....

im sure aggie would love to have some of our guards, give us one of your big men for one of our guards and Baylor is scarey...right now, we have guards to expend the prob is we dont have big men....heck, we'd be better defensively if we could jsut trade a Dugat for Josh Carter w/ the aggies and Dugat is not a bad defensive player, just Carter has the reach to play defensive basketball better, we wont even let him shoot 3s except when he is wide open to even it out...

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by STAggie
Lomers was a 4-5 star coming out of high school along with a few others. You don't have to shoot the three just because you don't have a go to big man. The problem not only with Baylor but all of college ball is the lack of actual set plays and things to try and get an open look at the basket. To many teams try to rely on an outside shot that when not falling leaves you in store for a long night. He is making strides but with the talent he has making the tournament and being one and done isn't really a success. Hell with the talent he has he should be competing for a top spot in the Big XII and at least two rounds in the tourny. I would love for A&M to have a couple of your guys. If we could combine your guards with our big men that would be a scary team. Just because you play up tempo basketball doesn't mean you have to play poor defense and shoot a quick three. One of the hardest things to do is run a half court offense against a good pressure man to man defense.

[cshscougar08]

Are you kidding me? You don't have to have a certain build or be a certain size or have certain length arms to play good defense!!!!! No denying that it HELPS, but it doesn't make or break you. Playing good defense is a simple thing of execution. And Baylor's guards don't know how to execute that. Fundamental basketball.