Boy this is gonna be controversial!!

[Buckeye80]

I will submit my list of the top ten "programs" in 3A currently. And they are:

1) Liberty Hill Panthers
2) Celina Bobcats
3) Gilmer Buckeyes
4) Abilene Wylie Bulldogs
5) West Orange Stark Mustangs
6) Cuero Gobblers
7) Giddings Buffaloes
8) Sweetwater Mustangs
9) Snyder Tigers
10) Wimberley

Also receiving votes: :D Liberty-Eylau, Carthage, Tatum, La Vega, Navasota, Hondo, Bandera, Monahans, Midland Greenwood

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
I will submit my list of the top ten "programs" in 3A currently. And they are:

1) Liberty Hill Panthers
2) Celina Bobcats
3) Gilmer Buckeyes
4) Abilene Wylie Bulldogs
5) West Orange Stark Mustangs
6) Cuero Gobblers
7) Giddings Buffaloes
8) Sweetwater Mustangs
9) Snyder Tigers
10) Wimberley

Also receiving votes: :D Liberty-Eylau, Carthage, Tatum, La Vega, Navasota, Hondo, Bandera, Monahans, Midland Greenwood By "current program" you mean their excellence over the past few years right, not just this season.

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by Necks_Fan
By "current program" you mean their excellence over the past few years right, not just this season.

Let's go with the past five (5) years as the criterion for this. Submit away sir!:D

[pirate4state]

:twitch: :twitch:

Where did I put my whip? :mad:

:D

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
Let's go with the past five (5) years as the criterion for this. Submit away sir!:D

I would place Gilmer above Celina if over the past 5 years

Both have won a Title, both have been in title game and lost

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
I would place Gilmer above Celina if over the past 5 years

Both have won a Title, both have been in title game and lost

Granted! I just didn't want to put two teams above Celina. You know how they can get! :D

[WHS02]

ALL VERY GOOD TEAMS. GOOD JOB.

[OrangeChamps]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
I would place Gilmer above Celina if over the past 5 years

Both have won a Title, both have been in title game and lost

Agreed. Celina has only been successful in 3a the past three seasons (including this year). Gilmer has been a significant contender over the past 5 seasons, during which Celina was winning in 2a. Both programs are up at the top, but I give the edge to Gilmer due to the extra years.

[Trashman]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
Also receiving votes: :D Liberty-Eylau, Carthage, Tatum, La Vega, Navasota, Hondo, Bandera, Monahans, Midland Greenwood

If this is your list, why are other teams "receiving votes"? If in fact they are "receiving votes", who are they from?


:spitlol:

[WOS87]

Here are the top 100 CURRENT 3A teams ranked by total wins over the past 5 seasons (including games played while competing in other classifications)

Rank/Team/Win-Loss Record/Winning Percentage
(includes all games played from the beginning of the 2004 season through 11/29/08)

1. Celina 70-5 0.933
2. Liberty Hill 63-8 0.887
3. Gilmer 62-5 0.925
4. Cuero 62-7 0.898
5. Tatum 57-13 0.814
6. Abilene Wylie 53-14 0.791
7. West Orange-Stark 51-8 0.864
8. Giddings 50-12 0.806
9. Sweetwater 50-16 0.757
10. Snyder 50-16 0.757
11. China Spring 48-14 0.774
12. Devine 46-13 0.779
13. Wimberley 46-18 0.718
14. Argyle 45-19 0.703
15. Rio Hondo 44-13 0.771
16. Prosper 44-17 0.721
17. Ingleside 43-17 0.716
18. Monahans 42-17 0.711
19. Bellville 41-16 0.719
20. Dallas Madison 41-16 0.719
21. Cameron Yoe 41-17 0.706
22. Kaufman 41-17 0.706
23. Van 40-14 0.740
24. Kennedale 40-16 0.714
25. Carthage 40-17 0.701
26. Decatur 40-17 0.701
27. Canton 40-19 0.677
28. Farmersville 40-19 0.677
29. Llano 40-19 0.677
30. La Vernia 39-18 0.684
31. Robinson 39-19 0.669
32. Liberty-Eylau 39-22 0.639
33. Glen Rose 38-21 0.644
34. Hondo 37-21 0.637
35. Waco La Vega 37-22 0.627
36. Palestine 36-21 0.631
37. Vernon 36-25 0.590
38. Navasota 35-20 0.636
39. Sinton 35-21 0.625
40. Port Isabel 35-22 0.614
41. Midland Greenwood 35-24 0.593
42. Caldwell 34-19 0.641
43. Diboll 34-19 0.641
44. Zapata 33-20 0.622
45. Needville 33-20 0.622
46. West Columbia 33-21 0.611
47. Brookshire Royal 33-21 0.611
48. Seminole 33-25 0.568
49. Silsbee 32-20 0.615
50. Sanger 32-21 0.603
51. Fort Stockton 32-22 0.592
52. Crockett 32-23 0.581
53. Paris North Lamar 32-23 0.581
54. West 32-24 0.571
55. Bridgeport 32-26 0.551
56. Jasper 32-27 0.542
57. La Feria 31-21 0.596
58. Orange Grove 31-23 0.574
59. Dallas Roosevelt 31-23 0.574
60. Graham 31-24 0.562
61. Brownsboro 31-25 0.553
62. Tyler Chapel Hill 31-25 0.553
63. Madisonville 30-22 0.576
64. Clint 30-22 0.576
65. New Boston 30-23 0.566
66. Burkburnett 30-23 0.566
67. Fredericksburg 30-24 0.555
68. Pleasant Grove 30-28 0.517
69. Sweeny 29-24 0.547
70. Lubbock Cooper 29-24 0.547
71. Lyford 29-25 0.537
72. Hidalgo 29-25 0.537
73. Waco Connally 29-25 0.537
74. Poteet 28-26 0.518
75. Burnet 28-26 0.518
76. Perryton 28-26 0.518
77. CC West Oso 27-25 0.519
78. San Antonio Sam Houston 27-25 0.519
79. Lake Worth 27-26 0.509
80. Rusk 27-27 0.5
81. Longview Spring Hill 27-27 0.5
82. Iowa Park 27-28 0.490
83. Bandera 26-28 0.481
84. Breckenridge 26-28 0.481
85. Brownwood 26-31 0.456
86. Bridge City 25-25 0.5
87. Huffman Hargrave 25-26 0.490
88. Sealy 25-27 0.480
89. Palestine Westwood 25-28 0.471
90. Emory Rains 25-28 0.471
91. Gonzales 25-29 0.462
92. Gainesville 25-31 0.446
93. Andrews 25-32 0.438
94. Cleveland 24-27 0.470
95. Van Alstyne 24-29 0.452
96. Rockdale 24-30 0.444
97. Pittsburg 24-31 0.436
98. Raymondville 23-27 0.46
99. Mathis 23-27 0.46
100. Somerset 23-27 0.46


...and here are the top 100 CURRENT 3A TEAMS ranked by overall winning percentage over the past 5 seasons
(includes all games played from the beginning of the 2004 season through 11/29/08)

1. Celina 0.933 70-5
2. Gilmer 0.925 62-5
3. Cuero 0.898 62-7
4. Liberty Hill 0.887 63-8
5. West Orange-Stark 0.864 51-8
6. Tatum 0.814 57-13
7. Giddings 0.806 50-12
8. Abilene Wylie 0.791 53-14
9. Devine 0.779 46-13
10. China Spring 0.774 48-14
11. Rio Hondo 0.771 44-13
12. Snyder 0.757 50-16
13. Sweetwater 0.757 50-16
14. Van 0.740 40-14
15. Prosper 0.721 44-17
16. Dallas Madison 0.719 41-16
17. Bellville 0.719 41-16
18. Wimberley 0.718 46-18
19. Ingleside 0.716 43-17
20. Kennedale 0.714 40-16
21. Monahans 0.711 42-17
22. Kaufman 0.706 41-17
23. Cameron Yoe 0.706 41-17
24. Argyle 0.703 45-19
25. Decatur 0.701 40-17
26. Carthage 0.701 40-17
27. La Vernia 0.684 39-18
28. Llano 0.677 40-19
29. Farmersville 0.677 40-19
30. Canton 0.677 40-19
31. Robinson 0.669 39-19
32. Glen Rose 0.644 38-21
33. Diboll 0.641 34-19
34. Caldwell 0.641 34-19
35. Liberty-Eylau 0.639 39-22
36. Hondo 0.637 37-21
37. Navasota 0.636 35-20
38. Palestine 0.631 36-21
39. Waco La Vega 0.627 37-22
40. Sinton 0.625 35-21
41. Needville 0.622 33-20
42. Zapata 0.622 33-20
43. Silsbee 0.615 32-20
44. Port Isabel 0.614 35-22
45. Brookshire Royal 0.611 33-21
46. West Columbia 0.611 33-21
47. Sanger 0.603 32-21
48. La Feria 0.596 31-21
49. Midland Greenwood 0.593 35-24
50. Fort Stockton 0.592 32-22
51. Vernon 0.590 36-25
52. Paris North Lamar 0.581 32-23
53. Crockett 0.581 32-23
54. Clint 0.576 30-22
55. Madisonville 0.576 30-22
56. Dallas Roosevelt 0.574 31-23
57. Orange Grove 0.574 31-23
58. West 0.571 32-24
59. Seminole 0.568 33-25
60. Burkburnett 0.566 30-23
61. New Boston 0.566 30-23
62. Graham 0.562 31-24
63. Fredericksburg 0.555 30-24
64. Tyler Chapel Hill 0.553 31-25
65. Brownsboro 0.553 31-25
66. Bridgeport 0.551 32-26
67. Lubbock Cooper 0.547 29-24
68. Sweeny 0.547 29-24
69. Jasper 0.542 32-27
70. Waco Connally 0.537 29-25
71. Hidalgo 0.537 29-25
72. Lyford 0.537 29-25
73. San Antonio Sam Houston 0.519 27-25
74. CC West Oso 0.519 27-25
75. Perryton 0.518 28-26
76. Burnet 0.518 28-26
77. Poteet 0.518 28-26
78. Pleasant Grove 0.517 30-28
79. Lake Worth 0.509 27-26
80. Longview Spring Hill 0.5 27-27
81. Rusk 0.5 27-27
82. Bridge City 0.5 25-25
83. Iowa Park 0.490 27-28
84. Huffman Hargrave 0.490 25-26
85. Breckenridge 0.481 26-28
86. Bandera 0.481 26-28
87. Sealy 0.480 25-27
88. Emory Rains 0.471 25-28
89. Palestine Westwood 0.471 25-28
90. Cleveland 0.470 24-27
91. Gonzales 0.462 25-29
92. Gatesville 0.46 23-27
93. La Grange 0.46 23-27
94. Somerset 0.46 23-27
95. Mathis 0.46 23-27
96. Raymondville 0.46 23-27
97. Brownwood 0.456 26-31
98. Lucas Lovejoy 0.454 5-6
99. Van Alstyne 0.452 24-29
100. Gainesville 0.446 25-31

[WOS87]

The only major omission from your original post top 10 is Tatum (remember that they did win a 3A state title in 2005)

[3afan]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
I will submit my list of the top ten "programs" in 3A currently. And they are:

1) Liberty Hill Panthers
2) Celina Bobcats
3) Gilmer Buckeyes
4) Abilene Wylie Bulldogs
5) West Orange Stark Mustangs
6) Cuero Gobblers
7) Giddings Buffaloes
8) Sweetwater Mustangs
9) Snyder Tigers
10) Wimberley

Also receiving votes: :D Liberty-Eylau, Carthage, Tatum, La Vega, Navasota, Hondo, Bandera, Monahans, Midland Greenwood

not much to argue about ...

[RPF2666]

Thanks WOS!:clap:

[Rabid Cougar]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
I will submit my list of the top ten "programs" in 3A currently. And they are:

1) Liberty Hill Panthers
2) Celina Bobcats
3) Gilmer Buckeyes
4) Abilene Wylie Bulldogs
5) West Orange Stark Mustangs
6) Cuero Gobblers
7) Giddings Buffaloes
8) Sweetwater Mustangs
9) Snyder Tigers
10) Wimberley

Also receiving votes: :D Liberty-Eylau, Carthage, Tatum, La Vega, Navasota, Hondo, Bandera, Monahans, Midland Greenwood

I have a question about your receivng votes list :
Why La Vega and not China Spring?
LaVega is 37-22 ( ranked 35th) and China Spring is 48-14 (ranked 11th) over the past 5 years.
LaVega has been in the play offs only three of the past five years. China Spring has made the playoffs all 5 years.
Head to head in the past 10 years CS 9-2 vs LV. CS is 5-1 in the
past 5 years


Navasota is ranked 38th in wins in the past 5 years
Liberty Eylau is 32th
Carthage 25th
Hondo 34th
Midland Greenwood 40th
Wimberly 13 th
Monahans 18th

AND
Bandara 82nd :thinking:

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by Rabid Cougar
I have a question about your receivng votes list :
Why La Vega and not China Spring?
LaVega is 37-22 ( ranked 35th) and China Spring is 48-14 (ranked 11th) over the past 5 years.
LaVega has been in the play offs only three of the past five years. China Spring has made the playoffs all 5 years.
Head to head in the past 10 years CS 9-2 vs LV. CS is 5-1 in the
past 5 years


Navasota is ranked 38th in wins in the past 5 years
Liberty Eylau is 32th
Carthage 25th
Hondo 34th
Midland Greenwood 40th
Wimberly 13 th
Monahans 18th

AND
Bandara 82nd :thinking:

The beauty of one's opinion is that it is one's opinion. The "others receiving votes" is just a joke; hence the smiley face. China Spring is a great program and they will now be honorary 11th. Better?;)

[STANG RED]

Well I think this partly explains why we're such huge rivals and why this district is so competetive.

6. Abilene Wylie 53-14 0.791
9. Sweetwater 50-16 0.757
10. Snyder 50-16 0.757

[DUKE22]

Ok question sweetwater is ranked ahead of snyder in the top one hundred for wins. Yet snyder is ahead of sweetwater in the winning percentage. There wins are the same and the percentage is the same go figure.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by DUKE22
Ok question sweetwater is ranked ahead of snyder in the top one hundred for wins. Yet snyder is ahead of sweetwater in the winning percentage. There wins are the same and the percentage is the same go figure.

They should be tied.... there's no way for me to go back and edit the original post though. I don't have those priviledges.