Region III GotW (Regional): WO-S (10-0) vs Gilmer (11-1)

[WOS87]

First time ever matchup between the two...

Gilmer is 35-3 in the past 3 years to date
WO-S is 32-3 in the past 3 years to date

As a reference Liberty Hill is 38-2 in the past 3 years and Celina is 40-4

[Gobbla2001]

what a match-up

[Necks_Fan]

Might as well get it started.


Next Sat, 2:30 PM Abe Martin Stadium in Lufkin.


Gramps says we will be there. :clap: :)


Your thoughts?


I'll Take WO-S by 5.

WO-S 33-28.... the most points they have given up all year.... because this will be the best offense they will have played all year. Should be a great game.

[kepdawg]

I wish this game was going to be a whole lot closer to me!

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by kepdawg
I wish this game was going to be a whole lot closer to me!
ditto

[mistanice]

This game is in Lufkin? 10 miles down the road!

[Necks_Fan]

Me and Gramps will be in attendance, on which ever side has more room.


Please set up a M&G and tell me WOS87 is goign to be there. I would LOVe to meet the man behind the numbers. If these guys are half as cool as the Cuero people, we got some great on here. :clap: :)

I hope to meet some of the Buckeye and Mustang people. :)

[WOS87]

My sister gave me one of my best birthday prezzies ever...

A WO-S Mustang jersey with the number 87 front and back and WOS87 as the name on the back....

I plan on being there wearing said jersey.

I'll try to get a pic to post

[easttexas3a]

After the way we played in district and the win vs. Diboll in the 1rst round I would of felt very confident going into this game. But we can not play like we did tonight the rest of the way out. The game with Mexia is a lot like the game last year with Mabank, we got up early and then tried to coast and lost our fire, and let the other team make it into a game. I haven't seen WOS play this year, but I have seen them in hgihlights all year, and they obviously look very good. Should be a great matchup.

[88bobcats]

Gilmer is renowned for its offensive attack; but I don't think the Buckeyes have seen the likes of the Mustangs' "Chain Gang" defense. Gilmer wins too many games in shoot-outs. How many points did Mexia hang on 'em? When WOS87 updates his power rankings, you'll see Gilmer move down and WO-S move up on the list.

All due respect to Gilmer, they have quite a program. However, I think Quintavious Garrett is peaking at the right time and the "Chain Gang" can smell blood.....especially after the Mexia game. On offense, Garrett, Franks, Hypolite and others pose a well-balanced attack. The only X-factor in all of this is Gilmer's team speed.

Regardless, I think WO-S wins by 17.....or maybe I just hope they do.

[BigBrother]

Should be fun!

[HM33]

WoW, wish I could watch this one. Looks like it will be a great game.

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by 88bobcats
but I don't think the Buckeyes have seen the likes of the Mustangs' "Chain Gang" defense.

Nor has the "chain gang" seen an offense as potent as Gilmer's!

[headhunter]

this will be game of the week

[pirate4state]

If Sinton plays on Friday looks like I'll be hitting the road for Lufkin! :eek: :D

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by WOS87
My sister gave me one of my best birthday prezzies ever...

A WO-S Mustang jersey with the number 87 front and back and WOS87 as the name on the back....

I plan on being there wearing said jersey.

I'll try to get a pic to post
that is way too cool........ can't wait to see the picture:p

[Maroon87]

I haven't seen Gilmer but I saw WOS tonight...their #20 (RB) might be the toughest teenager alive right now. Caldwell could NOT get him down at all. Good luck, Buckeyes...:eek:

[eagles_victory]

There is a chance I might be there but since ill be home for Thanksgiving and 2 hours away instead of 20 minutes it seems unlikely at this point but rest assured Ill be pulling hard for the Buckeyes.

[augie97]

This has to be the game of the week.

[Necks_Fan]

Man I'm STOKED for this one.


I'm getting all tingly just thinking about this game. I WILL BE THERE!



I wouldn't miss this one for anything.:)

[gobbler grad]

Originally posted by pirate4state
If Sinton plays on Friday looks like I'll be hitting the road for Lufkin! :eek: :D

i was thinking the same thing, depending on what day Cuero plays...now this would be a roadtrip...:eek:

and a dang good game:clap:

[OldBison75]

This will be a test of wills , a great defense against a scoring offense. Gilmer can't have the defensive night against WOS they had against Mexia because the WOS offense is hardly ever talked about, but very good. The WOS defense is for real and can clamp down on any offense. Gilmer will be their toughest test so far.

In the playoffs, at this level, defense wins games most of the time and that gives the adavantage to WOS. I think this will be a battle that will be won by the team with the best play from the defensive line. I give WOS the nod in a low scoring slugfest.

WOS 21
Gilmer 17

[ProudHornetMom]

Originally posted by Maroon87
I haven't seen Gilmer but I saw WOS tonight...their #20 (RB) might be the toughest teenager alive right now. Caldwell could NOT get him down at all. Good luck, Buckeyes...:eek:

We watched Gilmer last year. After last night, I pick WO-S. Gilmer is very strong but WO-S speed is too much I think. It will be a good game and we're planning on making the trip.

[thatboiwes]

As much as I hate to say it, I believe this will be Gilmer's last game this season.

I feel that WOS is the best team in 3A this year and their defense will be too much for our offense to handle. Hopefully our defense will play much better than they did last night and give us a chance to be victorious.

I predict this one to be low scoring with WOS coming out on top:

Mustangs - 21
Buckeyes - 13

[thatboiwes]

Before I get roasted for not having any confidence in my team, I have plenty confidence that they CAN beat WOS. It is just my belief that WOS will get the win.

But no matter what, believe me, I will be yelling as loud as I can for the black and orange kids we know as BUCKEYES!

[OldBison75]

I appreciate your honest prediction. That takes guts. I do believe that Gilmer COULD beat WOS, but everything will have to go their way. WOS will have to make some turnovers and Gilmer will have to play the best game they have played this year.

I agree on the low scoring, but, Gilmer better be tackling with authority or the WOS back will just keep chugging down the field. The guy is a bull that refuses to go down.

Good luck to both teams and I wish I could be there to see it.

[setxsports]

RB Garrett for WOS gets better every week.

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by thatboiwes
Before I get roasted for not having any confidence in my team,

Yeah, good luck with that! Our fans are turning very "Celina-like"!

[WOS1]

Man, I sure hate everyone picking us to win. We need some Gilmer fans to get on here and vote for them.

Seriously, Gilmer has got the fire power to take us out, no doubt. It's going to take a great night offensively and for our defense to not let up and keep playing like they have. Gilmer is very scary to me. Although I have wished for this game since we dropped to 3A. Now that it's here, I'm thinking, "Oh sh*t, it's really going to happen!". I think this will be an AWESOME game.

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by WOS1
Man, I sure hate everyone picking us to win. We need some Gilmer fans to get on here and vote for them.

Seriously, Gilmer has got the fire power to take us out, no doubt. It's going to take a great night offensively and for our defense to not let up and keep playing like they have. Gilmer is very scary to me. Although I have wished for this game since we dropped to 3A. Now that it's here, I'm thinking, "Oh sh*t, it's really going to happen!". I think this will be an AWESOME game.

Have had this one circled since week 2. I cannot wait to see how we stack up against another of the "elites". We didn't fare to well last time (thanks LH). Colossal match-up of two perennial contender programs!!! Let's do it! It's gonna be a fantastic game!

[easttexas3a]

To me this game comes down to the number 21. Can the buckeyes score more then 21 points on the WOS defense. I think the buckeyes will come out on fire, we played a very bad game earlier this year then the next week we smoked daingerfield in one of our best games right after they had beaten Celina. I expect that type of effort. I will take my bucks 22-21, Traylor goes for 2 at then end.

Lets not forget up until last night this Gilmer defense had been playing the best we had seen a Gilmer D play since.........well since Jeff Traylor got here. We all know we have 8-9 underclassmen starting on offense and defense, we are young and will have bad games. Hopefully we got the "bad" one out of us.

I am encouraged that Silsbee played you guys to a 14-7 overtime game.

[setxsports]

Things have changed since the Silsbee game!

[griff]

Originally posted by easttexas3a
I am encouraged that Silsbee played you guys to a 14-7 overtime game.

I wouldn't take the Silsbee game as a gauge on what to expect from WO-S. Call that getting the "one bad one" out of the way, as you described it for Gilmer's last game. Silsbee has played us tough on may occasions, and they played their best game of the year that night. Unfortunately for them, they did not have a 10 game season's worth of games like the one they played against us. That game was one bad hurricane and forever ago. WO-S is much improved since then and in good stride right now.

WO-S has to do four things IMO:
1) execute well on offense
2) make good decisions on offensive playcalling
3) limit the number of big plays by Gilmer's offense
4) not turn over the ball

Items #1 and #2 are what concern me most.

If we do these four things...and I know we have it in us...I like our chances.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by 88bobcats
When WOS87 updates his power rankings, you'll see Gilmer move down and WO-S move up on the list.


You are most definitely correct in that... although Gilmer still holds the poll position with 4 remaining 2nd round games to factor in to the equation

Here are the ratings as of 6pm Saturday evening 11/22

1. 17-3A Gilmer 43.73
2. 5-3A Bridgeport 42.83
3. 21-3A West Orange-Stark 39.42
4. 18-3A Carthage 38.23
5. 28-3A Cuero 36.40
6. 9-3A Celina 35.31
7. 19-3A Waco La Vega 34.59
8. 7-3A China Spring 34.30
9. 5-3A Burkburnett 33.61
10. 9-3A Prosper 33.01

[88bobcats]

Originally posted by WOS87
You are most definitely correct in that... although Gilmer still holds the poll position with 4 remaining 2nd round games to factor in to the equation

Here are the ratings as of 6pm Saturday evening 11/22

1. 17-3A Gilmer 43.73
2. 5-3A Bridgeport 42.83
3. 21-3A West Orange - Stark 39.42
4. 18-3A Carthage 38.23
5. 28-3A Cuero 36.40
6. 9-3A Celina 35.31
7. 19-3A Waco La Vega 34.59
8. 7-3A China Spring 34.30
9. 5-3A Burkburnett 33.61
10. 9-3A Prosper 33.01


WOS87, I wouldn't think the difference in the numbers for any of these teams could be significant enough to exceed the standard deviations of the small-sample distributions from the calculations. Is that what you see in your analyses?

Obviously all these teams belong near the top when compared to all of Class 3A; but I would expect that the 10-point range of these rankings doesn't exceed the standard deviations.

By the way, what algorithm do you use to achieve convergence in the data set? Do you use an iterative macro in EXCEL? I tried to created a spreadsheet for 21-3A, but I had to manually force it to calculate and iterate many times to achieve "convergence".

Thanks,
88bobcat (Marc)

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by 88bobcats


WOS87, I wouldn't think the difference in the numbers for any of these teams could be significant enough to exceed the standard deviations of the small-sample distributions from the calculations. Is that what you see in your analyses?

Obviously all these teams belong near the top when compared to all of Class 3A; but I would expect that the 10-point range of these rankings doesn't exceed the standard deviations.

By the way, what algorithm do you use to achieve convergence in the data set? Do you use an iterative macro in EXCEL? I tried to created a spreadsheet for 21-3A, but I had to manually force it to calculate and iterate many times to achieve "convergence".

Thanks,
88bobcat (Marc)


yea..uhh..just what I was thinking..uhhhh yeah

[WOS87]

Here are the Week 12 Ratings for the 24 remaining teams in 3A

1. Gilmer 43.79
2. Bridgeport 40.59
3. West Orange-Stark 39.91
4. Carthage 38.39
5. Cuero 36.91
6. China Spring 35.59
7. Celina 34.89
8. Waco La Vega 34.76
9. Prosper 32.31
10. Navasota 30.61
11. Liberty Hill 30.00
12. Bellville 29.57
13. Giddings 28.72
14. Abilene Wylie 27.21
15. Sweetwater 26.12
16. Monahans 21.80
17. Rockdale 21.57
18. Pleasant Grove 21.09
19. New Boston 17.13
20. Kaufman 16.30
21. Rio Hondo 15.20
22. Van 14.33
23. Sinton 13.83
24. La Feria 6.34

[footballfan62]

Originally posted by gobbler grad
i was thinking the same thing, depending on what day Cuero plays...now this would be a roadtrip...:eek:

and a dang good game:clap:

Cuero is in Corpus Saturday night

[WOS87]

Predictions for Week 13

Division I
China Spring over Abilene Wylie by 8 points
Prosper over Van by 18 points
Waco La Vega over Navasota by 4 points
Cuero over La Feria by 30 points

Division II
Bridgeport over Monahans by 19 points
Liberty Hill over Sweetwater by 4 points
Celina over Pleasant Grove by 13 points
New Boston over Kaufman by 1 point
(As much as it pains me) Gilmer over WO-S by 4 points
Carthage over Rockdale by 17 points
Bellville over Sinton by 16 points
Giddings over Rio Hondo by 13 points

[footballfan62]

Originally posted by headhunter
this will be game of the week

Then too this isn't the only one loss combined game this weekend. I know of Sinton-Bellville, but seems that it has no notarity of Gilmer or WO-S.

Never know where I will be next Saturday, as I may be in Orange and Tyler, maybe making my way back through Lufkin.

[Panther One]

I've been waiting for these WOS87....you should put them in a new thread.

[footballfan62]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by WOS87
[B]Predictions for Week 13
Since I don't have the data you do, I will go with two that more in my area.

Cuero over La Feria by 30 points
Very possible. Le Feria won by 3 and 17, but occassionally has explosives. On the other hand, Cuero is nothing short than explosive. Defitely this will be a blowout of more than 25.


Bellville over Sinton by 16 points
I do know of Sinton's explosiveness if they play their game. Now if Bellville has a defense, I may say that Sinton is doomed. Sinton's Defense really has been shattering allowing 20 or more points, but their Offense has kept them sparking. My view is toss-up because not knowing about Bellville's defense.:confused:

[Sportsman]

Originally posted by HM33
WoW, wish I could watch this one. Looks like it will be a great game.

Not this time around!

[pirate4state]

:D :D :D

I am SO excited!!!!! I WILL be at this game!

My only problem is where to sit!!! :eek: :eek: :cool: :D

[TigerFan51]

Wow, right in my own backyard, well, my Mom and Dad's! I'll be home in Lufkin for Thanksgiving and get to see a great game to boot! Woohoo!

[garciap77]

Go Gilmer!:clap: :clap: :clap:

[JR2004]

I'd go watch this game, but I want to see a couple of teams loaded with athletes at every position so I'm going to head to Corsicana to see Carter vs. Longview on Saturday. I really would love to get to see the game, but I can't pass up seeing a DISD school as good as Carter vs. a team like Longview.

I would think that this matchup though between Gilmer and WO-S will have a good amount of athletes out there too though. Last year was my first time to see WO-S and man can that defense play some ball! If I were a WO-S fan I'd have every confidence that Coach Thompson will have them ready to play on that side of the ball. Gilmer has one heck of an offensive attack, but if they hope to win Traylor is going to have to play it a bit more conservative. By that I just mean he can't be going for it on 4th down as often as he has in the past in playoff games. If he plays it from the hip they might be in trouble against a defense this good. If this game winds up being just half as good as the hype about it, it'll be a great one to see!

[bp80884]

might be the game of the year. I am going WO-S for no other reason other than reputation. To me, it is a toss up!

[Buckeye1980]

WOW! This is the one alot of people have wanted to see. I would love nothing more than for my beloved Buckeyes to win, that being said , I cannot see it happening . It could happen , it may happen , but I jus do not see it. I will not use the Buckeyes are young excuse because this far into the season ,inexperience is not a factor. WOS just has more to offer at this time. WOS 27-20. NOBODY wants me to be wrong more than me .

[Pure_FB_Fan14]

Just a prediction here... After seeing the WO-S defense dominate the kids from Caldwell, and their gaudy 400 yards a game of rushing the ball offense, reduced down to hardly nothing (except for a couple of long runs on some defensive miscues) which ultimately tallied only a mere 167 total yards of offense against the “Chain Gang” defense, I am going to have to believe the Mustangs will do the same to the Buckeyes as well. The predicted outcome: WO-S 45 Gilmer 13. Which by the way, the 13 points surrendered will have only matched the kids from Nederland, when they only scored 13 in week one. This one should be a good ball-game, for a while. :)

[Maroon87]

WO-S has studs at every position...I was impressed by what I saw Friday night because I know Caldwell is a pretty solid team.

[R3Editor]

This is without a doubt the game of the week in Region III. STICKY IT!!!

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by Pure_FB_Fan14
The predicted outcome: WO-S 45 Gilmer 13. This one should be a good ball-game, for a while. :)

No 3A team in the state can do that to Gilmer! A 32 point loss is a ridiculous notion. I think you may be inflating your own ego a little with a prediction like that!

[WOSgrad]

I find it striking that the Mustangs are put up (on this poll, anyway) as a prohibitive favorite. I share the thoughts of WOS1 in that this game is a pick 'em at the worst for the Buckeyes. I guess some are pointing to the fact that Gilmer gave up 36 points last week...I only have to point to the 50 they put up. Believe me, Coach Hooks and Coach Thompson know that this is the most explosive offense that they have seen all year.

Do I think WO-S will win? Of course, I do! But that is just as much a statement out of loyalty to my alma mater than it is on what I have seen out of the two teams.

[Buckeye80]

I actually also believe that WOS wins this game, if only from an understanding of football strategy. That defense is gonna be too much for us. However, only a catastrophic collapse on Gilmer's part will make this game "one-sided". Believe me, even if WOS wins this game, they will know that they just played one!

[gobbler grad]

I'll be WOS in this ...got alot of talent all over the field...will be a close game and very exciting...

WOS 31-24 over Gilmer...:clap:

[WOS1]

Please remember, you may have some people posing as WOS fans coming out of the woodwork this week making some outrageous predictions. The real WOS fans know this is going to be a colossal battle. I don't see how we can be so much of an overwhelming favorite here.

While I respect the teams we've played so far, they are no Gilmer. The stakes go up this week for everyone.

[pirate4state]

:eek: :eek:

32-13 poll results in favor of WOS!?!?! :thinking:

WOW

People still hating on Gilmer for the GJ Kinne thing? LET IT GO! :D


Is Gilmer the home team? I'm guessing yes based on game location! :D

[WOS1]

Originally posted by pirate4state
:D :D :D

I am SO excited!!!!! I WILL be at this game!

My only problem is where to sit!!! :eek: :eek: :cool: :D

Whatever!!! Quit teasing all those folks, you know dang good and well you are going to be sitting with us... "Don't know where to sit..." your so hilarious!:p :rolleyes:

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by WOS1
Whatever!!! Quit teasing all those folks, you know dang good and well you are going to be sitting with us... "Don't know where to sit..." your so hilarious!:p :rolleyes: :spitlol: You're probably right! :D

[WOS1]

Probably my arse...:D

[pirate4state]

Biggest key to this game, IMO, is WOS play calling. If they try and sit back and sit on a lead it will bite them in the ass.

You will have to keep coming at Gilmer because they are gonna keep coming at you.

OMG....I can't wait! :inlove:

Oh yeah, I'll have the state bound shirt for you guys to sign. :thumbsup:

[WOS1]

Yes, you are so right P4S! We have to avoid our old achiles heel. This is the biggest thing I'm worried about in this game. As you know, it has cost us the last few years in these late rounds.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Originally posted by pirate4state

Is Gilmer the home team? I'm guessing yes based on game location! :D

I don't know who the home team is, but this stadium is about as close to being halfway between the two cities/schools as is possible. It's 110 miles from here to Lufkin. It's probably a little farther than that from Orange to Lufkin, but this is the most centrally located stadium capable of hosting a third round game.

Here's a video I found about the Gilmer-Mexia game along with a postgame interview with Coach Traylor:

http://www.ketknbc.com/sports/gilmer-beats-mexia

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by pirate4state
:spitlol: You're probably right! :D

:( :( :( ; I knew it! Sell-out!

[griff]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
:( :( :( ; I knew it! Sell-out!

Sell out? She said earlier that WO-S is her adopted team. :) Remember, p4s, you can't disown your "family". See you at the reunion Saturday.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
:( :( :( ; I knew it! Sell-out! How 'bout I stand and watch from the end zone? LOL

You probably won't even be there anyway! :tongue:

[griff]

WOS1, I'm surprised also to see the majority vote for WO-S. Those of us who follow WO-S closely have a TON of respect for Gilmer. No way do we think this is going to be a blowout by either team. I believe WO-S wins by a small margin, but it will not surprise me if Gilmer gets the "W".

[Crimestick]

I won't be surprised if either team wins by two, nor will I be surprised if either team wins by 20. I think this one could go any of the four ways. If the WO-S playcalling is solid, I think the Stangs will move on. That, however, is a rarity. If we call like we did against Caldwell, I like our chances MUCH better than if we have "one of those games" regarding offensive playcalling.

[thatboiwes]

WOS87,

Do you have individual player's stats for the season? Please share those if you do have them.

If not, do you know where I could find them? Other than the coaches office, of course.

Thanks!

[Crimestick]

I'm having trouble pulling it up, but there are stats on the Ipreps site, which you can find a link to near the top of beaumontenterprise.com.

[thatboiwes]

I've found some from the Beaumont Enterprise. WOS87, I would still like to see yours if they are different from what I've gathered from there.


Passing:

#13 Ortavious Hypolite - 81 - 130, 1204 yards, 13 TD, 2 INT

Rushing:

#20 Quintavious Garrett - 133 carries, 946 yards, 7.1 per carry, 16 TD
#13 Ortavious Hypolite - 92 carries, 635 yards, 6.9 per carry, 13 TD
#15 James Haynes - 16 carries, 186 yards, 11.6 per carry, 3 TD
#8 Kevin Robinson - 23 carries, 149 yards, 5.5 per carry, 0 TD

Recieving:

#7 Trey Franks - 29 receptions, 530 yards, 4 TD
#9 Josh Gloston - 13 receptions, 205 yards, 1 TD
#15 James Haynes - 10 receptions, 106 yards, 2 TD
#20 Quintavious Garrett - 7 receptions, 95 yards, 2 TD

Did I count the roster right? West Orange-Stark has 13 Seniors, 15 Juniors and 21 Sophmore's on the team?

[Buckeye80]

Let me just say that I am not setting myself up to win either way. I honestly feel like Gilmer is going to come up short on Saturday. I will be the first one to eat crow on here if the Buckeyes win.

[OrangeChamps]

Forget biggest game of the week, this is the biggest game of the year to date. I expect to see the winner of this game in the championship game.

Toss up

WOS - Heads
Gilmer - Tails

[WOS1]

Originally posted by thatboiwes
I've found some from the Beaumont Enterprise. WOS87, I would still like to see yours if they are different from what I've gathered from there.


Passing:

#13 Ortavious Hypolite - 81 - 130, 1204 yards, 13 TD, 2 INT

Rushing:

#20 Quintavious Garrett - 133 carries, 946 yards, 7.1 per carry, 16 TD
#13 Ortavious Hypolite - 92 carries, 635 yards, 6.9 per carry, 13 TD
#15 James Haynes - 16 carries, 186 yards, 11.6 per carry, 3 TD
#8 Kevin Robinson - 23 carries, 149 yards, 5.5 per carry, 0 TD

Recieving:

#7 Trey Franks - 29 receptions, 530 yards, 4 TD
#9 Josh Gloston - 13 receptions, 205 yards, 1 TD
#15 James Haynes - 10 receptions, 106 yards, 2 TD
#20 Quintavious Garrett - 7 receptions, 95 yards, 2 TD

Did I count the roster right? West Orange-Stark has 13 Seniors, 15 Juniors and 21 Sophmore's on the team?

These stats are prior to the Caldwell game.

[WOS87]

Friday games are always difficult for me to get to due to my work hours (which is why it didn't happen last Friday) but I am making plans to be their this Saturday

Look for the jersey with the number 87

;)

Thanks to my sister for the birthday present

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[astangthang]

I am so pumped, I could run to Lufkin right now and I'm just a fan!!! We can't wait for this one, but we have to stay focused!!!
Go, 'Stangs!

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by astangthang
I am so pumped, I could run to Lufkin right now and I'm just a fan!!! We can't wait for this one, but we have to stay focused!!!
Go, 'Stangs!

Welcome!

[Pure_FB_Fan14]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
No 3A team in the state can do that to Gilmer! A 32 point loss is a ridiculous notion. I think you may be inflating your own ego a little with a prediction like that!

A 32 point loss is very probable for this one. The Mustangs may not hang a 45 spot on the old scoreboard. However, as the generations before us used to say, "Watermelon, Watermelon". This one won't even be close after the smoke clears. Again, in my estimation: WO-S 45 vs. Gilmer 13.

P>S> I may be a rookie to this particular message board, but I'm a WO-S product and long time 'Stang fan since 1977.

The West Orang-Stark Mustangs, est. 1977.

[BigBrother]

Before you make a prediction for this game... don't forget to look at the schedules for both teams and determine which team might be better prepared for this game. Just a suggestion.

[20FAN07]

This will be the game to be at next Saturday for sure. Its always funny to see or "read" the hype that the fans in the stands put out there, but i guess it's just a given. Good thing it doesn't count though.....This game is going to be a classic to say the least. Gilmer is coming in with a known high powered "O" and the Stang's have their smash mouth defense that we always drool over......(well atleast i do..i love to see a dominating defense).
I think the key factor in this game is going to be the gilmer defense and the mustang offense. Gilmers d is no slouch, but after giving up all those yards to mexia im interested to see whats on the table. The mustang offense is a typical "pick your poision" but it will be tested with the speed of gilmer.
At half i see it either being tied or one of the teams up by a touchdown....hopefully the stangs will be up :) . But after the half is really were the stangs make their move and dont look back on teams. But we will be playing gilmer and im sure they will be in our back pockets till the buzzer goes off. I can't see this game in a blowout. If a blowout does occur then one of the teams is just clicking or things are just falling the right way for them.
At the end i see the mustangs prevailin' 24-14.......
Stangs- 3 tds and a FG.
Emotions will be high, the crowd will be loud and unfortunately someone season will end.....Best of luck to the Buckeyes and go get'em Stangs!


Ofcourse this is all in opinion for i have not seen gilmer with my two eyes this season. And in all honesty this game could go either way easily.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by WOS87
Predictions for Week 13

Division I
China Spring over Abilene Wylie by 8 points
Prosper over Van by 18 points
Waco La Vega over Navasota by 4 points
Cuero over La Feria by 30 points

Division II
Bridgeport over Monahans by 19 points
Liberty Hill over Sweetwater by 4 points
Celina over Pleasant Grove by 13 points
New Boston over Kaufman by 1 point
(As much as it pains me) Gilmer over WO-S by 4 points
Carthage over Rockdale by 17 points
Bellville over Sinton by 16 points
Giddings over Rio Hondo by 13 points

In the first two rounds combined, my ratings have correctly predicted 50 games and missed on 10. (83.3% accuracy)

[GUNHO]

I can't beleive this poll isn't closer than it is.Is this a Gilmer ploy to get wo-s to relax?:D It never fails...you say a team is giving up a lot of points so you figure your going to score a lot too.What happens...you don't.You can't go on what one team has done to other teams and use that as a guage as to how this game is going to go.Makes for good discussion but that is about all.These teams have not played each other and therefore have not had their athletes face each other.
This is going to be a great test for both teams.I will say that the key for wo-s to win is it's defense.If we have trouble stopping Gilmers offense...we ain't going to win a shootout.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by GUNHO
I can't beleive this poll isn't closer than it is.Is this a Gilmer ploy to get wo-s to relax?:D


not alot of East Texas or Buckeyes on this board

[pirate4state]

wow i can't believe how lopsided this poll is (not that it matters)

anyway

i agree with the key match up being more about Gilmer's D vs Mustang O and not so much the Mustang D vs Gilmer O :D

if Gilmer can limit the Mustangs to 3 tds, they have a shot, IMO

{i'm gonna throw out the Silsbee score because i think that was "just one of those games" LOL}

the last team to hold WOS to less than 21 was La Vega :thinking:

is it Saturday yet? :D

[waterboy]

Dang it! I'm a little surprised the poll is that much in favor of West Orange-Stark. I figured they'd be in the lead, but it's a little more lopsided than I expected. Oh, well, I can respect that. It looks like the Buckeyes will be the underdog in this one. With that being said, I know the Buckeyes will have to play their best game of the year to win this one. I think that Mexia game was the wake-up call the Buckeyes needed, and I think they will respond accordingly. Having not seen WO-S, I honestly don't know if they can beat the Mustangs, but I know they will give it their best shot, and an "Army of Buckeyes" will have their back! I just hope to see a good game between two 3A titans that'll live up to the hype!:D

Go Buckeyes! Beat West Orange-Stark!

[easttexas3a]

Word around town is that WOS is very small, but very fast. I had heard the fast part, but are you guys really struggling for size and depth?

[setxsports]

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1138292619/bclid1138334401/bctid3124588001

[setxsports]

From smoaky/Gilmer Fan

Talked to some of the coaches yesterday, and they thought WOS had the best defense they had seen since Atlanta in '03. That's high praise indeed.

This game goes back once again to the defense. I just can't see Gilmer lighting up the scoreboard against WOS. If they win, it will be a low scoring affair. But Gilmer's defense (with the exception of the 2nd half against Mexia) has been excellent all year long. Can the defense keep Gilmer in the game, and will the offense break enough big plays to win?

I have no problem with a Gilmer homer poster predicting WOS to win. I just hope that all the Gilmer players expect Gilmer to win. I definitely agree that the team that scores the most points will win. Such wisdom will soon make this board irrelevant.

[waterboy]

Originally posted by **********
"I definitely agree that the team that scores the most points will win."
:thinking: Hmmmm.............I'll second that!:D

[3afan]

WO-S will win 'cause my bracket says so

[icu812]

Originally posted by **********
From smoaky/Gilmer Fan

Talked to some of the coaches yesterday, and they thought WOS had the best defense they had seen since Atlanta in '03. That's high praise indeed.

Yes it is. I haven't seen WOS but if their D is comparable to Atl in 03 Gilmer is in for a long game. Atlanta's D in 03 was outstanding and very, very fast. What a great game this is going to be!!

[astangthang]

I couldn't wait to log on today to see what the latest predictions are. Smack talk and all, this game is going to be great! I won't be able to stand myself by the time Saturday rolls around. I have to drive to keep from making everyone in the car crazy!:crazy:

[pirate4state]

I will have the "3A Downlow State Bound" shirt at this game. Not sure what time I'll arrive in Lufkin or at the stadium, but for those of you interested in a "meet & greet" at half time here is where I'll be with the shirt!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b14/p4s90/lufkin.jpg

There don't appear to be any fences separating the two sides so I think we'll be okay. Unless someone has a better idea.

[waterboy]

Does anyone know who the home team will be?

[setxsports]

WO-S will be the Home Team this week.

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
not alot of East Texas or Buckeyes on this board

Hey Wimbo. I may be late to the conversation, but I made it. Yeah, I know. 36 points is a bunch, but 50 is more, so the Buckeyes survived another one. This week, the stakes get higher, the competition gets better, and I stick with the original premise from last weeks thread, Gilmer will win state or the team that beats Gilmer will win state.

Now. My prediction is this. If it is a close game, Gilmer wins. Similar to last year with Abilene Wylie and Roosevelt. If there is a blowout, I think Gilmer could be on the short end of it. I am not a fan of 4th down heroics which has been a staple of past Buckeye playoff game plans. We don't need much of that, unless it truly is with the game on the line.

So....drumroll please.......Gilmer 24 - WOS 22.

You can salute my wisdom next week.:cheerl: :cheerl: :cheerl:

[BuckeyeNut]

Talking with some of the players and coach's Gilmer played its worst Defense year to date and Mexia played its best. Up 28-7 and took a knee to go into half. Not wanting to run the score up. Gilmer stayed on the ground most of the night holding back some I thought. Like I said worst Defensive game year to date. Glade to have that one out of the way. Will be a great game this week.

[buff4ever]

I have to go with WOS in not as close a game as some of you may think. They will be up by atleast 2 scores in the end.

[STANG RED]

I voted for Gilmer.

Just because they were way behind in the poll. :D

[WOS1]

Originally posted by Black Flag
Talking with some of the players and coach's Gilmer played its worst Defense year to date and Mexia played its best. Up 28-7 and took a knee to go into half. Not wanting to run the score up. Gilmer stayed on the ground most of the night holding back some I thought. Like I said worst Defensive game year to date. Glade to have that one out of the way. Will be a great game this week.

... bad time of the year for that.

[easttexas3a]

The question I have to everyone that has been on my mind, how good is West Orange stark with not turning the ball over. Are they a team that is very disciplined, and allows their Defense to win games. Or do they try to force it a bit on Offense, maybe try to thread the needle one too many times, or put the ball on the turf. I really do think the winner of the turnover battle will win this one, especialy if the turnovers occur inside your own territory.

[Crimestick]

I can't say how many turnovers we had this year. I believe we forced 25. I would say that, if anything, we can be a bit too conservative on offense. Our QB has two INTs on the year, I think.

[easttexas3a]

I don't know gilmers turnovers either, I know in the Kilgore game we turned the ball over 4 times, one of which was a free gift returned for a touchdown against us. If you take out those 4 from what was a dismal performance I think we have been real consistent with winning the turnover battle.

I have also heard WOS has kicking game problems, I am wondering do you mean kicking pat's or do you mean they can be inconsistent on special teams. Gilmer won their state championship in 2004 over Jasper because they could not kick XP's.

Gilmer although putting up big numbers has not been as crisp as in years past on offense. The toughest defenses we faced this year were Daingerfield who we scored 48 on, Chapel hill who we put 35 on, and Kilgore who we lost to only scoring 14 points.

We do not have the big time recruit guys this year that we had last year, there is no Justin Johnson or Houston Tuminellos on the field. However we do have two dynamic players on offense, the QB Darian godfrey commonly called stump who is a 6'2 200 pound duel threat QB who had a fantastic year as a soph last year, and another great year so far. The other player is Jeremy Jackson a 5'5 150 pound running back who was a good lightning in a bottle player last year as a soph, and as a Junior this year has been very explosive. Besides those 2 players, you will just see very average lookign kids who are well coached and play very good football.

I would assume with such high praises of speed that WOS is very hard to run the ball outside on. Gilmer has been very mixed in all offense so it will be interesting to see how we test the middle running both Godfrey and Jackson. Although Jackson is a small back he is a very good inside runner.

The Defense for Gilmer has played excellent all year, giving up not much more then trash touchdowns to teams late except for a few games. Kilgore we gave up 17 points to (their other points were not scored on the D) Chapel Hill we gave up 7 to, Daingerfield and Jasper hit 19 and 28 but both scored most of those points late in the game. The biggest offensive showing against us was by Mexia, who we held to 7 points in the first half, and then just took our foot off the gas against for some unknown reason. Mexia was pretty good, they were no WOS but they were not bad on offense.

This game is real interesting, you have Gilmer who looked like they were steam rolling through til this past game, and you have WOS who has dominated all year long with the exception of a close Silsbee game. Both teams are facing their best competition of the year til now. I wonder will the Bucks look like they did after the Kilgore loss when they played a 2a state chapion caliber team and dismantled them, or is Mexia a sign of what the bucks really are. Will WOS come out and dominate Gilmer as they have all the others, or has the teams they played thus far not been in the same ball park as Gilmer.

I said it earlier in the week and I still stick with it, I think this game comes down to turnovers, specifically ones that happen on the others side of the field. I expect both teams to struggle offensively to put up points, so if you were to get the ball on the opponets 40 because of a fumble that would be huge in this type of game where you may have to win 14-7. I think we are going to get the best out of both teams, and I like my bucks 22-21, I have no doubt if it is a one score game and we score at the end we will go for two, and we all can only hope it comes down to that type of ball game.

Everyone have a safe trip to the game, I will not be able to do any of the meet and greet stuff, I will have to get there right at kickoff unfortunately, but I would love nothing more for us to pack Lufkin's stadium. The atmosphere should be great, and we should all be thankful that we get to watch such a great game between two great traditional programs.

[Crimestick]

Like you guys, our major recruits have either gone in recent years (Earl Thomas and Deion Beasley at Texas, Jacoby Franks at Tech, Tommy Chavis at Missouri) or are a year or two away (three current underclassmen on the UT to-offer list, including one - who shall remain nameless ;) - who I've been told is in the Longhorns' Top 10). But the seniors are some of those down-home, full-of-heart guys like our QB (Hypolite) and our little-guy RB who was carrying Caldwell defenders like they were fleas last week. Sounds like our teams are very similar. I hope it's a close, hard-fought game, and that the best team really does win. Most of all, I wish for a safe game and trip for all fans and players involved.

GO MUSTANGS!

[Twirling Time]

Gilmer in Region III just doesn't seem right. I hope the UIL fixes that in 2010.

[thatboiwes]

Originally posted by Twirling Time
Gilmer in Region III just doesn't seem right. I hope the UIL fixes that in 2010.

What;s wrong? Mad that we are at the top of the 'favorites' list and were just in our 1st year in this region?

[Crimestick]

The "favorites" list? Isn't Gilmer #5 in 3A according to the AP?

[WOS1]

Originally posted by thatboiwes
What;s wrong? Mad that we are at the top of the 'favorites' list and were just in our 1st year in this region?

The guy who posted that is from Sherman... not in region III. don't be talking smack to the region III folks over that.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by WOS1
The guy who posted that is from Sherman... not in region III. don't be talking smack to the region III folks over that.

What's your prediction B? Do you make predictions?

I'm seeing 21-14 or 17-14 or 35-33 :eek:

I don't know who wins though! :D

[thatboiwes]

Originally posted by WOS1
The guy who posted that is from Sherman... not in region III.

:doh:


don't be talking smack to the region III folks over that.

:thumbsup:

[waterboy]

The Region III winner is my odd-on-favorite to win it all this year............that is, if they ain't too beat up! Talk about top-heavy! Geessshh!

[BuckeyeNut]

Who has WO-S played that is even close to the caliber team Gilmer is. Easy for a Defense to stop people that don't put points on the board. Gilmer Defense STOPPED the top raided running back in the Nation. "Tucker Chapel Hill" I hear a lot of talking but show me some facts about some top teams WO-S has played and stopped. Have they faced a Offense that can put 50 on you in the first half. There will be no holding back this game. There will be no taking a knee at half. The stopping point will be in the 4th quarter when the game is over.

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Black Flag
Who has WO-S played that is even close to the caliber team Gilmer is. Easy for a Defense to stop people that don't put points on the board. Gilmer Defense STOPPED the top raided running back in the Nation. "Tucker Chapel Hill" I hear a lot of talking but show me some facts about some top teams WO-S has played and stopped. Have they faced a Offense that can put 50 on you in the first half. There will be no holding back this game. There will be no taking a knee at half. The stopping point will be in the 4th quarter when the game is over.

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!

Who has Gilmer played that is even close to the caliber of DEFENSE WOS will bring? My guess...Kilgore....

West Orange-Stark Mustangs
08/29....@ (4A) Nederland W 34-13
09/05....(4A) Little Cypress-Mauriceville W 48-7
09/12....@ (2A) Kirbyville CANCELLED
09/19....Jasper CANCELLED
09/26....OPEN
10/03....Brookshire Royal W 33-7
10/10....Silsbee* W 14-7 (OT)
10/17....@ Hamshire-Fannett* W 66-0
10/24....Bridge City* W 66-7
10/31....@ Hardin-Jefferson* W 40-0
11/07....Orangefield* W 67-0
11/15....Coldspring-Oakhurst** W 36-8 (@ Deer Park Abshire Stadium, 6:00)
11/21....Caldwell** W 37-7 (The Woodlands Woodforest Stadium, Fri. 7:30)
11/29....Gilmer** (Lufkin Abe Martin Stadium, Sat. 2:30)

[GUNHO]

Originally posted by Black Flag
Who has WO-S played that is even close to the caliber team Gilmer is. Easy for a Defense to stop people that don't put points on the board. Gilmer Defense STOPPED the top raided running back in the Nation. "Tucker Chapel Hill" I hear a lot of talking but show me some facts about some top teams WO-S has played and stopped. Have they faced a Offense that can put 50 on you in the first half. There will be no holding back this game. There will be no taking a knee at half. The stopping point will be in the 4th quarter when the game is over.

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!

I ask the same question.Who has Gilmer played that is even close to the caliber team that WO-S is? This ain't going to be as esay as you might think flag.:hand:

[Pawdaddy]

Originally posted by pirate4state
Who has Gilmer played that is even close to the caliber of DEFENSE WOS will bring? My guess...Kilgore....



And....What is the record of the teams WOS played in the regular season? Is Nederland and Silsbee the only ones that made the playoffs? I looked but might have overlooked...everybody else. I can hear Dandy Don singing "Turn Out the Lights" on WOS season already!

[dirtydan]

Originally posted by Black Flag
Who has WO-S played that is even close to the caliber team Gilmer is. Easy for a Defense to stop people that don't put points on the board. Gilmer Defense STOPPED the top raided running back in the Nation. "Tucker Chapel Hill" I hear a lot of talking but show me some facts about some top teams WO-S has played and stopped. Have they faced a Offense that can put 50 on you in the first half. There will be no holding back this game. There will be no taking a knee at half. The stopping point will be in the 4th quarter when the game is over.

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!

[dirtydan]

Originally posted by Black Flag
Who has WO-S played that is even close to the caliber team Gilmer is. Easy for a Defense to stop people that don't put points on the board. Gilmer Defense STOPPED the top raided running back in the Nation. "Tucker Chapel Hill" I hear a lot of talking but show me some facts about some top teams WO-S has played and stopped. Have they faced a Offense that can put 50 on you in the first half. There will be no holding back this game. There will be no taking a knee at half. The stopping point will be in the 4th quarter when the game is over.

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!

naw! the bucks wont be taking prisoners sat; no place to keep them.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
And....What is the record of the teams WOS played in the regular season? Is Nederland and Silsbee the only ones that made the playoffs? I looked but might have overlooked...everybody else. I can hear Dandy Don singing "Turn Out the Lights" on WOS season already! Well if you wanna know I suggest you research it, because it doesn't matter to me! :D

I'm a fan of both teams & am just hoping to watch a great game!

I just like to cause trouble :devil:

[waterboy]

Hey, I have to go with our buddy WOS87 on this one. He says Gilmer should win according to the numbers. That's good enough for me!:D

[WOS1]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
And....What is the record of the teams WOS played in the regular season? Is Nederland and Silsbee the only ones that made the playoffs? I looked but might have overlooked...everybody else. I can hear Dandy Don singing "Turn Out the Lights" on WOS season already!

Nederland
Silsbee
Hardin Jefferson

Kirbyville and Jasper were cancelled due to the storm.
so 3 out of 8 teams.

How many did Gilmer play (and beat)?

[Crimestick]

Originally posted by Black Flag
Who has WO-S played that is even close to the caliber team Gilmer is. Easy for a Defense to stop people that don't put points on the board. Gilmer Defense STOPPED the top raided running back in the Nation. "Tucker Chapel Hill" I hear a lot of talking but show me some facts about some top teams WO-S has played and stopped. Have they faced a Offense that can put 50 on you in the first half. There will be no holding back this game. There will be no taking a knee at half. The stopping point will be in the 4th quarter when the game is over.

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!

Last week, WO-S played a Caldwell team that averaged 400 yards rushing per game and well over 40 points. The Mustangs held them to 140 yards on 40 carries, including one 70 yarder, and just 7 points. With Caldwell having heard about our D all week, they apparently weren't expecting much O, but the Stangs put up almost 500 yards on em, including almost 400 on the ground.

But this defense is not a 2008 thing. It's a WO-S thing that has been pretty consistent over the history of our school - except for a few years under a different DC (Thompson was here forever, left for three or four years, then returned).

[martwayne]

best eam in region III regardless of what division is navasota rattlers

[easttexas3a]

Good luck with La Vega lol

[martwayne]

laugh all you want to wait and see

[thatboiwes]

Originally posted by WOS1
How many did Gilmer play (and beat)? [/B]

Jasper @ TMF Rose Stadium, Tyler (56-28)
@ Daingerfield (49-18)
@ Chapel Hill (45-6)
@ Tatum (48-14)

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
Have had this one circled since week 2. I cannot wait to see how we stack up against another of the "elites". We didn't fare to well last time (thanks LH). Colossal match-up of two perennial contender programs!!! Let's do it! It's gonna be a fantastic game!

Like "The Rumble In The Jungle", this is definitely a colossal match up. I can't even predict with confidence who will walk away with this one. I have been saying all year that a LH-WOS match-up would be incredible, so based on that, I hope WOS will win.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
Hey Wimbo. I may be late to the conversation, but I made it. Yeah, I know. 36 points is a bunch, but 50 is more, so the Buckeyes survived another one. This week, the stakes get higher, the competition gets better, and I stick with the original premise from last weeks thread, Gilmer will win state or the team that beats Gilmer will win state.

Now. My prediction is this. If it is a close game, Gilmer wins. Similar to last year with Abilene Wylie and Roosevelt. If there is a blowout, I think Gilmer could be on the short end of it. I am not a fan of 4th down heroics which has been a staple of past Buckeye playoff game plans. We don't need much of that, unless it truly is with the game on the line.

So....drumroll please.......Gilmer 24 - WOS 22.

You can salute my wisdom next week.:cheerl: :cheerl: :cheerl:

This is definitely the Game of the Year (to date), in my opinion. Yes, there were some other match-ups during the season that rival this one, but both these teams possess "everything one needs to know" about ratcheting it up in the play offs...there in no way (IMO) either team will come out flat. This should be a doozy. I gotta go with WOS on this one, only because I would like to see a WOS-LH final. Honestly, this one could go either way....but defense will win this game.

[GUNHO]

Hey wimbo,how you been doing.Been waiting to get another crack at you guys but it just hasn't worked out.
Putting all kidding and smack aside,I to beleive this game a toss up if each team plays to their potential.WO-S has great respect for the kids and program at Gilmer.We know they will come prepared.

[wimbo_pro]

As of late, getting a crack at Wimberley hasnt been all that challenging. However, we are young and the future looks bright...especially since our freshman running back is from WOS originally!!!

Hope all is well with you and yours?

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by pirate4state
I will have the "3A Downlow State Bound" shirt at this game. Not sure what time I'll arrive in Lufkin or at the stadium, but for those of you interested in a "meet & greet" at half time here is where I'll be with the shirt!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b14/p4s90/lufkin.jpg

There don't appear to be any fences separating the two sides so I think we'll be okay. Unless someone has a better idea.

bump :D

GO BUCKEYES!
GO 'STANGS!

[Crimestick]

Originally posted by thatboiwes
Jasper @ TMF Rose Stadium, Tyler (56-28)
@ Daingerfield (49-18)
@ Chapel Hill (45-6)
@ Tatum (48-14)

Jasper and Tatum both finished with losing records (4-6, 5-6).

[Crimestick]

Originally posted by Black Flag
Who has WO-S played that is even close to the caliber team Gilmer is. Easy for a Defense to stop people that don't put points on the board. Gilmer Defense STOPPED the top raided running back in the Nation. "Tucker Chapel Hill" I hear a lot of talking but show me some facts about some top teams WO-S has played and stopped. Have they faced a Offense that can put 50 on you in the first half. There will be no holding back this game. There will be no taking a knee at half. The stopping point will be in the 4th quarter when the game is over.

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!

To answer your question, the only team WO-S has been on the field with who has put up close to 50 in a half was WO-S. The Mustangs were up 50-0 this year at the half against Hamshire-Fannett. The final was 66-0. Gilmer's 50-point half was against a 2-8 team, while WO-S's opponent was 3-6. It's impressive that the Buckeyes had 50 points in just two quarters (as did we), but they only won by 56 - allowing 21 points to a 2-8 team (their fourth highest scoring game in 2008). I can't say I'm swayed either way by performance according to strength of schedule. WO-S hasn't played any titans, but the only lackluster game you can really point a finger at on our schedule is Silsbee, and to that, I say "Mexia."

[WOS1]

To add to that stick, the team that beat Gilmer just got their butts handed to them last weekend. Doesn't bode well for all the strength of schedule chest thumpers. Neither of us have played any titans, but at least we beat all of the teams we did face.

... and at least out of the three 6-3 teams both of us have faced so far in the playoffs, neither of ours hung 36 points and 500 yards on us. :D

[waterboy]

Yeah, but the tinkers dang hex was diluted last week. Seems some old friends from the Daingerfield Tiger Nation needed some of it for their game last week. My friend in the Army of Buckeyes obliged their request, therefore diluting its potent power. This week is a totally different story! oldbuckeye#62 has distributed its full powers throughout the Orange/West Orange area. I know it's a strange thing, and you may not believe it, but at full strength, it has never failed! I'm sorry...........not really...........you Mustang fans, but there is nothing you can do to stop, or weaken its power! I almost............not really...........fell sorry for the Mustang team and their fans.:twitch: :weeping: :smoker:

The tinkers dang hex has hereby been formally placed on the West Orange-Stark Mustangs!

[waterboy]

Hope y'all have a safe trip to and from the game! Have a Happy Thanksgiving, and remember I warned you about the tinkers dang hex! See y'all Monday!

[Crimestick]

Originally posted by waterboy
Yeah, but the tinkers dang hex was diluted last week. Seems some old friends from the Daingerfield Tiger Nation needed some of it for their game last week. My friend in the Army of Buckeyes obliged their request, therefore diluting its potent power. This week is a totally different story! oldbuckeye#62 has distributed its full powers throughout the Orange/West Orange area. I know it's a strange thing, and you may not believe it, but at full strength, it has never failed! I'm sorry...........not really...........you Mustang fans, but there is nothing you can do to stop, or weaken its power! I almost............not really...........fell sorry for the Mustang team and their fans.:twitch: :weeping: :smoker:

The tinkers dang hex has hereby been formally placed on the West Orange-Stark Mustangs!

Sorry, but since we took such a hit from Hurricane Ike, we are both federally and universally immune to hexes until Sept. 13, 2010. In other words, "FORCE FIELD!"

We regret to inform you that the curse you submitted for application to the team participating in a high school football playoff game on Nov. 29, 2008 does not qualify for placement due to Section III, Article IV B of the Post-Disaster Hex Placement Act of 1944: MAXIMUM BAD LUCK ALREADY ADMINISTERED.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Crimestick
Sorry, but since we took such a hit from Hurricane Ike, we are both federally and universally immune to hexes until Sept. 13, 2010. In other words, "FORCE FIELD!"

We regret to inform you that the curse you submitted for application to the team participating in a high school football playoff game on Nov. 29, 2008 does not qualify for placement due to Section III, Article IV B of the Post-Disaster Hex Placement Act of 1944: MAXIMUM BAD LUCK ALREADY ADMINISTERED.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :D :D :clap:

[griff]

Originally posted by waterboy
Yeah, but the tinkers dang hex was diluted last week. Seems some old friends from the Daingerfield Tiger Nation needed some of it for their game last week. My friend in the Army of Buckeyes obliged their request, therefore diluting its potent power. This week is a totally different story! oldbuckeye#62 has distributed its full powers throughout the Orange/West Orange area. I know it's a strange thing, and you may not believe it, but at full strength, it has never failed! I'm sorry...........not really...........you Mustang fans, but there is nothing you can do to stop, or weaken its power! I almost............not really...........fell sorry for the Mustang team and their fans.:twitch: :weeping: :smoker:

The tinkers dang hex has hereby been formally placed on the West Orange-Stark Mustangs!

Lord, pour out your blessings on the players, coaches, fans, and communites of both schools. Keep everyone in the safety of your hand as they travel Saturday. Help both teams to give their best effort and assert good sportsmanship. Even as both teams are flying around and whacking each other, protect them from injuries. Let this game make for a lifetime of memories for everyone connected to it. Thank you that you are Almighty God, and that no silly curse can stand up to you. We revere you. I pray all of these things be done by the authority of your name, Jesus. Amen.

Can't wait for Saturday!

[88bobcats]

Hey griff, crimestick, and WOS1!

Don't you find it interesting that a team resorting to a hex tactic didn't fare well to a team that starts with "M-E-X"? Perhaps the Gilmer fans have doubts (psychological hexation) as a result of a poor showing.

I think the Buckeyes put a "Mexia Hex" on themselves last week.

[SHSBulldog00]

I like this matchup. First time these two school's will have played. My gut is telling me this winner will win the region. I have to go with W-O-S in this one; stronger defense.

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by WOS1
To add to that stick, the team that beat Gilmer just got their butts handed to them last weekend. Doesn't bode well for all the strength of schedule chest thumpers. Neither of us have played any titans, but at least we beat all of the teams we did face.

... and at least out of the three 6-3 teams both of us have faced so far in the playoffs, neither of ours hung 36 points and 500 yards on us. :D

But Gilmer was 5-0 in games where kickoff occurred during a temperature of 61 degrees or higher! And WOS has not beat a team with the letter "Q" in their name since 1946.

Jesus!!!!!

Let's just play and see who's better!!

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
But Gilmer was 5-0 in games where kickoff occurred during a temperature of 61 degrees or higher! And WOS has not beat a team with the letter "Q" in their name since 1946.

Jesus!!!!!

Let's just play and see who's better!!

Buckeye80 this Dawg is pulling for the Buckeyes! Good luck and go get you another golden ball!:cheerl: :cheerl::cheerl:

[Buckeye1980]

Originally posted by 88bobcats

Hey griff, crimestick, and WOS1!

Don't you find it interesting that a team resorting to a hex tactic didn't fare well to a team that starts with "M-E-X"? Perhaps the Gilmer fans have doubts (psychological hexation) as a result of a poor showing.

I think the Buckeyes put a "Mexia Hex" on themselves last week.


Did not fair well?? I believe they did win.

[WOS1]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
But Gilmer was 5-0 in games where kickoff occurred during a temperature of 61 degrees or higher! And WOS has not beat a team with the letter "Q" in their name since 1946.

Jesus!!!!!

Let's just play and see who's better!!

Easy now big fella, you guys are the ones who started the "who played who" crap. Not us. You can't expect to question who we played and how we fared without getting Mexia and Kilgore thrown back at ya... ;)

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by WOS1
Easy now big fella, you guys are the ones who started the "who played who" crap. Not us. You can't expect to question who we played and how we fared without getting Mexia and Kilgore thrown back at ya... ;)

I don't care who started it! It's ridiculous! And none of this will have any bearing on the game on Saturday! I don't care about strength of schedule. I don't care about defensive and offensive stats! And I don't care about which program is historically better!

On Saturday, our kids are gonna line up against your kids and see who is better. All the rest of this crap on both sides is absolutely inconsequential!

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by WOS1
you guys are the ones who started the "who played who" crap.

And I had nothing to do with it!

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by griff
Lord, pour out your blessings on the players, coaches, fans, and communites of both schools. Keep everyone in the safety of your hand as they travel Saturday. Help both teams to give their best effort and assert good sportsmanship. Even as both teams are flying around and whacking each other, protect them from injuries. Let this game make for a lifetime of memories for everyone connected to it. Thank you that you are Almighty God, and that no silly curse can stand up to you. We revere you. I pray all of these things be done by the authority of your name, Jesus. Amen.


Can't wait for Saturday!
P.S. Is there any way we can offer up a calf or a lamb for a 3 touchdown victory? Just asking as your favorite son...amen.

[TigerFan51]

Well, it's Thursday, Thanksgiving Day and I'm ALREADY in Lufkin at my parents' house. So I can just sit around, take it easy and wait for Saturday! I'll keep the rest of you in my prayers that you all have a safe trip on Saturday. I ought to be able to be at the stadium well ahead of game time, lol!

I haven't read through all 10 pages of posts. Is there a M&G scheduled, and if so, where is it to be?

[rhino1877]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
And I had nothing to do with it!

Saturday is going to be electric and going to be a war!!!! And remeber we are there to watch the kids play their hearts out, we are there for the simple support of the them!

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
I don't care who started it! It's ridiculous! And none of this will have any bearing on the game on Saturday! I don't care about strength of schedule. I don't care about defensive and offensive stats! And I don't care about which program is historically better!

On Saturday, our kids are gonna line up against your kids and see who is better. All the rest of this crap on both sides is absolutely inconsequential!

:blahblah: :blahblah: :kiss:

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by pirate4state
I will have the "3A Downlow State Bound" shirt at this game. Not sure what time I'll arrive in Lufkin or at the stadium, but for those of you interested in a "meet & greet" at half time here is where I'll be with the shirt!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b14/p4s90/lufkin.jpg

There don't appear to be any fences separating the two sides so I think we'll be okay. Unless someone has a better idea. for tigerfan51

[kepdawg]

Is WOS trying to discredit Kilgore because they lost to Ennis? :thinking:

[WOS87]

Refer to Jasper '86, New Braunfels '86, McKinney '86, West Columbia '87, Jasper '88, Katy Mayde Creek '88, Tomball '88, Kerrville Tivy '88, Friendswood '00, La Marque '00, Calallen '00 and Giddings '07

ALL were top 10 teams who had touted offenses that our defense held to 3 touchdowns or less and beat.

The majority of our current coaching staff including our head coach were around for every single one of those games. This will NOT be their first rodeo by any means.

Say it doesn't matter all you want... we'll see on Saturday

:D

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by WOS87
Refer to Jasper '86, New Braunfels '86, McKinney '86, West Columbia '87, Jasper '88, Katy Mayde Creek '88, Tomball '88, Kerrville Tivy '88, Friendswood '00, La Marque '00, Calallen '00 and Giddings '07

ALL were top 10 teams who had touted offenses that our defense held to 3 touchdowns or less and beat.

The majority of our current coaching staff including our head coach were around for every single one of those games. This will NOT be their first rodeo by any means.

Say it doesn't matter all you want... we'll see on Saturday

:D

Jasper '86 :bigcry: Jasper '88 :weeping:

Of course you know of all the games you listed someone will tell you only Giddings '07 counts.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Jasper '86 :bigcry: Jasper '88 :weeping:

Of course you know of all the games you listed someone will tell you only Giddings '07 counts.

Say that to Coach Thompson, our DC, and I imagine he may disagree with "someone"

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by WOS87
Say that to Coach Thompson, our DC, and I imagine he may disagree with "someone"

Yeah but lots of someones here don't think anything that didn't happen in 3A matters!

[WOS87]

People seem to forget how well WO-S has actually done since dropping to 3A

We've lost the same number of games over 5 seasons to date as a 3A team (2004-2008) as Brownwood has in 1 season in 3A

7 losses each (sorry Rocket... I still luv ya)

And 4 of our 7 losses include: a 3A State champ (Wimberley '05), a 3A State finalist (Jasper '04), and two 3A quarterfinalists (Giddings '06 and La Vega '07)

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by WOS87
People seem to forget how well WO-S has actually done since dropping to 3A

We've lost the same number of games over 5 seasons to date as a 3A team (2004-2008) as Brownwood has in 1 season in 3A

7 losses each (sorry Rocket... I still luv ya)

And 4 of our 7 losses include: a 3A State champ (Wimberley '05), a 3A State finalist (Jasper '04), and two 3A quarterfinalists (Giddings '06 and La Vega '07)

Yeah but since WOS hasn't gone undefeated and won every championship they are no good!

[WOS87]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Yeah but since WOS hasn't gone undefeated and won every championship they are no good!

I guess you're right...

But Jasper's in the same boat


:D

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by WOS87
I guess you're right...

But Jasper's in the same boat


:D

Sadly that is true.

And sadly that is the way some people think.

[OldBison75]

WOS has been a top team for years in bith 3A and 4A. Gilmer has been a top team for years also. Gilmer is known for it's offense and WOS is know for defense. I think the Gilmer offense is strong enough to score three touchdowns on WOS and might be able to get four. If WOS holds them tto 3 TD's, WOS wins. Anything more and Gilmer wins because I don't think WOS will score more that 24 points.

I think the most important part of this game will be how well the Gilmer defense performs. If they can hold the WOS running game in check, they can win.

[WOS1]

Don't doubt the WOS ability to pass the ball. You didn't see it against Caldwell because it wasn't needed because we were running it so well, plus our #1 reciever had a cast on his hand. But, Hypo doesn't have nearly 1,300 yards in 10 games by accident. The cast is off now, look for WOS to air it out and mix it up more this week. They will spread the wealth and get it to the speed guys.

[TigerFan51]

Thanks P4S! No, there never has been any fences separating the sides of the stadium at Panther Stadium, or Abe Martin for non-locals, lol! It'll always be Panther Stadium to me. I haven't set foot inside the stadium since I attended my last high school game there....ummm 197X something, lol!

I hope to make it...if I don't have to head back to my home away from home before game time.

[easttexas3a]

Some posters from Gilmer on smoaky are reporting that they may have some major injuries to contend with this saturday.

[Necks_Fan]

Who's the home team? I'll be there.

M&G at the scoreboard at halftime?

I'M IN!

Somebody bring a camera.

[easttexas3a]

WOS is the home, Gilmer the visitors.

So far no official word, but apparently Jeremy Jackson the starting running back for Gilmer will be missing this game. Apparently has had an ankle injury all week.

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by easttexas3a
WOS is the home, Gilmer the visitors.

So far no official word, but apparently Jeremy Jackson the starting running back for Gilmer will be missing this game. Apparently has had an ankle injury all week. That could mean the end for Gilmer.

[easttexas3a]

I wouldn't say the end, as we have 2 or 3 other running backs that have all played and looked good. I remember Jackson came out in the 4th and it was another back that ended up making that last touchdown vs. mexia. I figured it was cause Jackson had ran for 200 yards that night and they just wanted fresh legs. Apparently Jackson hasnt practiced this week per Gilmer fans on the smoaky boards.

[WOS1]

Originally posted by easttexas3a
I wouldn't say the end, as we have 2 or 3 other running backs that have all played and looked good. I remember Jackson came out in the 4th and it was another back that ended up making that last touchdown vs. mexia. I figured it was cause Jackson had ran for 200 yards that night and they just wanted fresh legs. Apparently Jackson hasnt practiced this week per Gilmer fans on the smoaky boards.

I ain't buyin it...

[Aesculus gilmus]

Originally posted by easttexas3a
Apparently Jackson hasnt practiced this week per Gilmer fans on the smoaky boards.

When you're as good as he is, you really don't need to practice. :D

[easttexas3a]

Will see, it would be a shame for us to not be able to have him. He is a dynamic player, one of the few players on the team that has true blazing speed.

[TigerFan51]

It has rained all afternoon and most of the evening here in Lufkin...over 2 inches here at my parents' house which is only about five minutes from the stadium. My son and I were at the Kirbeyville/Arp game tonight at Panther Stadium and it was pouring rain at halftime. I know there is no concern about field condition since is is astroturf but it made for a miserable time of it. The weather is supposed to clear later tonight and certainly by gametime tomorrow afternoon.

I was wondering if the game tonight was 2a? You guys from WOS certainly know something about Kirbeyville since they're from ya'lls way but Arp?

[WOS87]

If that's true I'm genuinely sorry he won't be able to play... One should always want to face an opponent full-force

[pirate4state]

In regards to M&G:

SCORE BOARD @ HALF TIME

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by pirate4state
In regards to M&G:

SCORE BOARD @ HALF TIME

I'll be at the other end of the field out of spite!:D

[WOS1]

Just a few hours away now... MAN this is gonna be a good one!

[Crimestick]

If the WO-S DBs can maintain coverage today, it's on to Carthage for the Mustangs. If not, it's more than likely a Gilmer day.

[WOS1]

...you mean, can we hold coverage long enough for our guys up front to get heat on the QB?

I my opinion, that will be the match up inside the match up. Whether we are fast enough to get past their O-line and get heat on the QB. That's how OU beat Tech and it can work for us as well. We need to make him look around a little bit and throw it short. We can't give him time to look down field.

[griff]

WOS1, right on as usual.

This game is loaded with intrigue and interesting matchups.

[wimbo_pro]

I believe in the Mustangs!!! There is something in the air about them this year...

[Bull's-eye]

I believe defense wins championships, so I'm going with WOS.

[lbjacj]

Originally posted by Bull's-eye
I believe defense wins championships, so I'm going with WOS.

Iagree but i'm rootin for Gilmer:rolleyes:

[tdsteele]

Was there something in the air?

[griff]

Originally posted by tdsteele
Was there something in the air?

Yeah, that would be the passing game of Gilmer...in the air all day. They were impressive. Congratulations to your team. Hope you win the whole thing.

Great season Mustangs. We're proud of you.

[Crimestick]

Congrats on a well deserved victory, Gilmer! The Buckeyes were definitely the better team tonight! I'd predicted that a lack of coverage would make it a Gilmer night, and our corner could not seem to shut down his man tonight. The Stangs tried to make a game of it in the third, but it was not enough. I really thought (quietly) that our secondary might be our downfall, but Gilmer was the first team good enough to totally expose it. Good luck!

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by Crimestick
Congrats on a well deserved victory, Gilmer! The Buckeyes were definitely the better team tonight! I'd predicted that a lack of coverage would make it a Gilmer night, and our corner could not seem to shut down his man tonight. The Stangs tried to make a game of it in the third, but it was not enough. I really thought (quietly) that our secondary might be our downfall, but Gilmer was the first team good enough to totally expose it. Good luck! Yep. Gilmer looking exceptional passing the ball tonight. Congrats to the Buckeyes.