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King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 08:33 PM
Yeeeeah!! Cameron scores on first play from scrimmage on a 68 yard screen pass!!

Yoe up 7-0!!!

Let's get this start boys! Leave NO DOUBT!!

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 08:43 PM
Caldwell scores on a 1 yard play in an 11 play, 71 yard drive. PAT is good, 7-7

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 08:52 PM
Yoe goes up on a 27 yard TD pass, Townsend to Freeman. 7 plays, 66 yards. PAT no good, Hornets get called for unsportsmanlike, kick is good this time. New score, 14-7; 3:02 in the 1st

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 08:59 PM
Caldwell's drive stalls around the Yoe 40 after they go for it on 4th & 6. Yoemen have the ball. 2nd quarter about to start, Yoemen driving, still up 14-7.

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 09:09 PM
cameron had to punt on that last drive, Caldwell starts a decent drive that turns into a penalty, a big loss and a punt. Cameron gets teh ball right back and fumbles on the Caldwell 30. Hornets now have the ball again, currently on their own 37.

That's two drives Cameron has come up empty handed after a chance to go up by two scores. I can't imagine the defense being able to contain Caldwell all night so we need some points if we want a win.

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 09:15 PM
Caldwell gets in the endzone after an 8 yard run. Game tied 14 all w/ 4:32 to go in the 2nd qtr.

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 09:19 PM
Caldwell goes for an onside kick, is offsides, Cameron recovers the ball and starts on the Caldwell 46.

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 09:21 PM
Cameron fumbles AGAIN way down at the Caldwell 10 yard line. You guys are killing yourselves.......you can't contain the Hornets forever.....

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 09:24 PM
a stunned Yoe D gives up a 70 yard run, along w/ a personal foul gets the ball down to the Yoe 10. Caldwell now 3rd & goal

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 09:25 PM
out of nowhere, Caldwell discovers a passing game and gets a 7 yard pass for a TD, Hornets up 21 - 14 w/ 15 seconds to go in the half

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 09:28 PM
Cameron has taken what should be a 28-7 game, and is trailing 21-14.

c-town_balla
11-07-2008, 09:42 PM
word on the street is the field is a lil flooded

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by c-town_balla
word on the street is the field is a lil flooded

that is correct sir.......funny....considering there hasn't been any rain lately.....:rolleyes:

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 09:59 PM
Caldwell strikes quickly, scores again, score now 28-14. Cameron better wake the funk up.

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 10:04 PM
James Wells scores on an 80 yard TD run after a 1st & 20. Score now 28-21 Hornets. 10 mins to go in the 3rd.

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 10:09 PM
Caldwell strikes right back w/ a big play, 35-21 Hornets. 70 yard run I believe. 21 points between the two teams scored in less than 3 minutes.

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 10:15 PM
Cameron throws an interception. At the Caldwell ONE. Hornets take over leading 35-21 at their own 1

CHS_CG
11-07-2008, 10:24 PM
GO HORNETS!!!!

Update on the M&G as usual none of the Cameron folks show.. there was no pic taken as it was just me hornetmom, tot, and burntorangehornet

CHS_CG
11-07-2008, 10:37 PM
End of 3rd 42-21 Caldwell!

LETS GO HORNETS LETS GO!!

CHS_CG
11-07-2008, 10:40 PM
42-28 oYe just scored

CHS_CG
11-07-2008, 10:51 PM
Caldwell Intercepted the ball 49-28 Caldwell in the 4th...

I need to teach Hornetmom to text faster!

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 10:52 PM
screw this. I'm playing Gears of War 2 now. :P

CHS_CG
11-07-2008, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by King_LeYoeNidas
screw this. I'm playing Gears of War 2 now. :P


aww, does it hurt?

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 10:55 PM
nope. I still have my Longhorns :P

CHS_CG
11-07-2008, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by King_LeYoeNidas
nope. I still have my Longhorns :P

Lol atleast u have something left dear!

c-town_balla
11-07-2008, 11:02 PM
well that fumble ruins my weekend

King_LeYoeNidas
11-07-2008, 11:05 PM
five turnovers against Navasota = loss
five turnovers against Caldwell = loss

See a pattern kids?

cameron91
11-07-2008, 11:17 PM
whats rockdale / taylor score........

CHS_CG
11-07-2008, 11:19 PM
49-28 FINAL CALDWELL IS PLAYOFF BOUND!

cameron91
11-07-2008, 11:20 PM
poor cameron..look like their just may be a new head ball coach in cameron next year..:D

Global Swarming
11-07-2008, 11:49 PM
Caldwell shows alot of class and takes a knee at the Yoeman 1 yard line to run out the clock. Woolverton just totally got off tonight. Probably had over 300 yards rushing tonight. Cameron didn't do anything running the ball. Had some long pass plays because our secondary sucks, but other than that total domination by the Hornets tonight.

augie97
11-07-2008, 11:50 PM
I hear the sound of a toilet flushing

ProudHornetMom
11-08-2008, 12:08 AM
Congratulations Hornets on a much needed win. We're all proud.

OldBison75
11-08-2008, 12:12 AM
If my understanding is clear, Rockdale is Division 2 first seed and Caldwell is Division 2 second seed. Cameron is out.

Congratulations to Rockdale and Caldwell--we in Navasota hope to see you guys go far in the playoffs. Post opponents and locations as soon as possible.

c-town_balla
11-08-2008, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by cameron91
poor cameron..look like their just may be a new head ball coach in cameron next year..:D



That couldn't be farther from the truth

ProudHornetMom
11-08-2008, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by OldBison75
If my understanding is clear, Rockdale is Division 2 first seed and Caldwell is Division 2 second seed. Cameron is out.

Congratulations to Rockdale and Caldwell--we in Navasota hope to see you guys go far in the playoffs. Post opponents and locations as soon as possible.

Right back at you. Here's to D24 representing well in playoffs.

Dogman_1969
11-08-2008, 12:36 AM
Funny to tell you folks. WOStark scouts were in Rockdale scouting the Tigers and late in 4th qtr it was announced that Caldwell was up 49-28 with 2 minutes remaining and they closed up their books and said well I guess we can scratch what we had notes on Rockdale.

I told them that Caldwell ran the 5 wide spread with an empty backfield. I tried to help my relatives in burnt orange..........

zebrablue2
11-08-2008, 12:39 AM
Congrats to the Hornets.:clap:

Global Swarming
11-08-2008, 01:15 AM
It looks like yet another second round exit by us lol. Thanks for the help Dogman. We're going to need all the help we can get with WOS. Maybe their bus will get lost on the way to the stadium and they have to forfeit lol.

HEMOTOXIC
11-08-2008, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Global Swarming
It looks like yet another second round exit by us lol. Thanks for the help Dogman. We're going to need all the help we can get with WOS. Maybe their bus will get lost on the way to the stadium and they have to forfeit lol.

Come on now. Have some faith in the Swarm! Congrats to Caldwell on a huge win!!!!!!:clap:

BURNT ORANGE HORNET 86
11-08-2008, 01:31 AM
Score by QUARTERS Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 OT Final
Cameron (6-3) 14 0 7 7 - 28
Caldwell (6-3) 7 14 21 7 - 49




FIRST QUARTER
CY: James Wells 68 pass from Steven Townsend (kick good) C: Kysan Woolverton 1 run (Michael McCoy kick good) CY: Brandon Freeman 27 pass from Townsend (kick good)

SECOND QUARTER
C: Trenton Sims 8 run (McCoy kick good) C: Eli Gage 7 pass from D.J. Cumby (McCoy kick good)

THIRD QUARTER
C: Woolverton 40 run (McCoy kick good) CY: Wells 80 pass from Townsend (kick good) C: Woolverton 59 run (McCoy kick good) C: Woolverton 43 run (McCoy kick good)

FOURTH QUARTER
CY: Townsend 10 run (kick good) C: Sims 21 run (McCoy kick good)


Team Statistics
Cameron Caldwell
First Downs - FD 15 26
Passing - COMP 9 3
Passing - ATT 12 3
Passing - YDS 260 34
Rushing - ATT 20 62
Rushing - YDS 85 547
Rushing - TD 1 6
Interceptions - INT 0 2
Punts - PUNTS 1 1
Punts - PAVG 40.00 30.00
Fumbles - FUMB 3 0
Fumbles - LOST 3 0
Penalties - PEN 6 6
Penalties - YDS 60 38



Individual Statistics
Passing - Cameron COMP ATT YDS INT TD
Steven Townsend 9 12 260 2 3

Passing - Caldwell COMP ATT YDS INT TD
DJ Cumby 1 1 7 0 1
Trenton Sims 2 2 27 0 0




Rushing - Cameron ATT YDS TD
Damyon Kelley 2 9 -
Steven Townsend 8 14 -
James Wells 10 62 -

Rushing - Caldwell ATT YDS TD
Billy Daniels 2 17 -
Mark Junek 6 7 -
Nelson Scott 4 17 -
Kedrin Sheppard 12 151 -
Trenton Sims 5 63 -
Kysan Woolverton 32 303 4




Receiving - Cameron REC YDS TD
Tommy Anderson 1 9 -
Brandon Freeman 2 38 1
Joe Thomas 2 13 -
James Wells 4 200 2

Receiving - Caldwell REC YDS TD
DJ Cumby 1 22 -
Eli Gage 1 7 1
Kedrin Sheppard 1 5 -

offduty
11-08-2008, 01:39 AM
hey so i was just wondering......where did caldwell get their 1900000000 inches of rain on the field for the game against the yoe tonight? coulda sworn the field was dry last night during the junior high games and looking at cameron's jerseys tonight it was saturated with water........like leyoenidas says...."I'm just sayin"

BURNT ORANGE HORNET 86
11-08-2008, 01:46 AM
I guess it was the same storm that hit Giddings last year before the Caldwell vs Giddings game.:)

YoePride05
11-08-2008, 08:50 AM
Funny thing...their field was soaked when we played them my senior year-back in 2004. hmmmm it sure rains alot in Caldwell...

ProudHornetMom
11-08-2008, 09:10 AM
Y'all! It did rain Thursday morning. And no, we didn't water the field. That would hurt us more with our running game than y'all with your passing game. The same has been said for Giddings and Bellville several times. If you knew how hard it is to even get the field mowed, you'd laugh to think someone watered it. Also, if you know Coach Williams, you'd know he wouldn't allow something like that. But if you want to believe that Caldwell drowned the field...go ahead. Next time bring your flippers and snorkel.

Instead of stirring up silly crap....I'd be bragging and supporting your Yoe. They are very quick, play very hard and very young. Also, you are a small 3a school. Can you imagine what you would have done in 2A? You would have cleaned house. You have a team that will no doubt gel next year and make everyone nervous with your speed.

As for us going out in the 2nd round. That's been the history but maybe this year will be different. Don't know. Give the team the support and positive reinforcement. We don't need to eat our own.

OldBison75
11-08-2008, 09:16 AM
Again, congratulations Hornets!!!! If you play with the emotion you played with against Navasota and Cameron, you will do fine in the playoffs. The Rattlrs are rooting for you. Please let us know your playoff location when you have it settled next week.

To Cameron, with the youth and talent on your team, you will be a favorite in the district next year. I predict big things from you guys in the next couple of years. This was a year when the district had four teams that were playoff quality and somebody had to miss out, what a shame.

YoePride05
11-08-2008, 09:19 AM
According to weather.com, Caldwell received .05 inches of rain on November 5. Does the town's drainage system empty onto the football field? The field was so wet the band had problems marching. That is RIDICULOUS.

The only reason I am bring this matter up is because I have personally witnessed it in the past. I am in no way making excuses for the Yoemen. Regardless of the saturation of the field, Cameron should have still been able to win. Soaking the field didn't help yall beat us in 2004 (we still won 41-17), and it should not have been that much of a factor last night.

However, I do think Caldwell purposely saturates their field prior to "big" games. This is my personal opinion based on observations.

Good Luck to the Hornets in playoffs, and hopefully Cameron can learn from this experience and have a great season next year.

LH Panther Mom
11-08-2008, 09:22 AM
Congrats, Hornets! PHM, hug the duck for me. ;)

ProudHornetMom
11-08-2008, 09:32 AM
Thanks PHM. The Duck is flying high this morning. He was up early to go to films. ;)

Me, I'm worn out. Our sons just think they're tired from playing smash mouth football on the field. They don't know what it's like to be a football mom playing each play from the stands....after a week of trying to feed them, support them and always ready to strike against any negativity like a heat seeking missle with a 5 mile range. Being a football mom is not for the faint of heart. ;)

OldBison75
11-08-2008, 09:43 AM
Just a note about the WET field. Weather.COM is about as reliable a witness to the amount of rain as believing that everything a politician tells you is the whole truth. That website said that Navasota got 0.1 inches of rain awhile back and we had water running curb deep in the streets.

Both teams play on the same surface and both teams have to be avble to make adjustments. The boys on the field have to make the plays to win, and Caldwell won that battle. Enough said about wet fields.

Global Swarming
11-08-2008, 09:53 AM
Watering down the field would be counter productive with our running game. Everyone knows that a wet field favors a passing team more than a running team. I guess the wet field caused y'all to turn the ball over as much as y'all did. Both teams had to play on the same field. You just have to execute the offense and not turn the ball over. One team did that last night and the other team didn't. Field conditions have nothing to do with anything. Good teams come overcome things like that and find a way to win.

YoePride05
11-08-2008, 10:01 AM
AGAIN-I did not say a wet field is why we lost. I was simply stating an observation about the saturating of the field prior to games. Regardless of the field condition, the Hornets played a better ball game. It was a good win by Caldwell. Cameron has had a problem with turnovers all year-even on dry fields. No excuses are to be made.

AGAIN-good luck to Caldwell in the playoffs.

King_LeYoeNidas
11-08-2008, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by YoePride05
AGAIN-I did not say a wet field is why we lost. I was simply stating an observation about the saturating of the field prior to games. Regardless of the field condition, the Hornets played a better ball game. It was a good win by Caldwell. Cameron has had a problem with turnovers all year-even on dry fields. No excuses are to be made.

AGAIN-good luck to Caldwell in the playoffs.

What about our 71 fumbles? Oh that's not an excuse....sorry. The reality of it, is Cameron stopped themselves all night w/ turnovers. At one point, the game should have been 28-7. Granted the Hornets played a role in that but good Lord. Ah well......And Hornet Mom.....I don't think dropping to 2a would have been fun. Yeah they would have dominated but that's like having Felix Jones go down and play for a high school. Ok maybe not that extreme but you get what I'm sayin.

ProudHornetMom
11-08-2008, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by King_LeYoeNidas
What about our 71 fumbles? Oh that's not an excuse....sorry. The reality of it, is Cameron stopped themselves all night w/ turnovers. At one point, the game should have been 28-7. Granted the Hornets played a role in that but good Lord. Ah well......And Hornet Mom.....I don't think dropping to 2a would have been fun. Yeah they would have dominated but that's like having Felix Jones go down and play for a high school. Ok maybe not that extreme but you get what I'm sayin.

I do understand King. Please know I was trying to be condescending about 2A or belittling the Yoe. It was a compliment. When you think about Cameron being a few students away from 2A and other schools being a few students away from 4A, the Yoe are doing well. It was very scary several times last night. The Yoe have the talent and will only improve on that talent.

Several times this year, posters have written that in D24, good teams might stay home from the playoffs. It's true with the Yoe. And knowing the Yoe...we'd all better look out next year.

stenroh
11-08-2008, 10:45 AM
BELIEVE, BELIEVE, BELIEVE, Can you say Tailgate party!!!!!!
Fantastic job by Caldwell. Hats off to the coaches for preparing those young men for that game. And to stay focused and positive when you get in a game and look at the score board and find yourself in the hole by 21 points with 11:33 seconds left in the first qtr and come back and win by +14 points well, enough said.
Wet field so what. Quit crying... it had little affect if at all any on the outcome of the game.

stenroh
11-08-2008, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by King_LeYoeNidas
What about our 71 fumbles? Oh that's not an excuse....sorry. The reality of it, is Cameron stopped themselves all night w/ turnovers. At one point, the game should have been 28-7. Granted the Hornets played a role in that but good Lord. Ah well......And Hornet Mom.....I don't think dropping to 2a would have been fun. Yeah they would have dominated but that's like having Felix Jones go down and play for a high school. Ok maybe not that extreme but you get what I'm sayin.

The reality of it, is the team that normally makes the least mistakes usually wins, in this game it was Caldwell....527 yards thats pretty stout, just say it no defense from Cameron it wasn't your offense, it put 28 points on the board. And if Caldwell can D-up down the stretch the offense can take them high places.

ProudHornetMom
11-08-2008, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by stenroh
BELIEVE, BELIEVE, BELIEVE, Can you say Tailgate party!!!!!!
Fantastic job by Caldwell. Hats off to the coaches for preparing those young men for that game. And to stay focused and positive when you get in a game and look at the score board and find yourself in the hole by 21 points with 11:33 seconds left in the first qtr and come back and win by +14 points well, enough said.
Wet field so what. Quit crying... it had little affect if at all any on the outcome of the game.

It was sweet wasn't it? Can't be more proud of the Hornets.

d_scott81
11-08-2008, 12:00 PM
congrats to the hornets they play a great ball game. god luck to them in the playoffs.

King_LeYoeNidas
11-08-2008, 01:10 PM
wow the mods let nunya come back again I see.

Bull's-eye
11-08-2008, 02:11 PM
Congratulations to the Hornets! Impressive rushing totals from that stable of runners.

LH Panther Mom
11-08-2008, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by King_LeYoeNidas
wow the mods let nunya come back again I see.
LMAO! I guess time will tell! And trust me, it will. (And there was no "let".)

stenroh
11-08-2008, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
LMAO! I guess time will tell! And trust me, it will. (And there was no "let".)

Sorry, I am not Nunya. No where close........

King_LeYoeNidas
11-08-2008, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by stenroh
Sorry, I am not Nunya. No where close........

odd that you know who we're talking about though.....:rolleyes:

ProudHornetMom
11-08-2008, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by King_LeYoeNidas
odd that you know who we're talking about though.....:rolleyes:

I don't think he/she's nunya. No reference to 10 years of sports writing, no use of the word Buster and no dig at Caldwell. ;) It doesn't take much of a search to read nunya's bs. I did post nunya babble on another board though. :eek:

:hijacktd: Off topic for a second. King - Do you know if Cameron is planning to have another Powerlifting Meet?

buff4life
11-09-2008, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by BURNT ORANGE HORNET 86
I guess it was the same storm that hit Giddings last year before the Caldwell vs Giddings game.:)

considering the field wasn't wet last year...maybe you could talk about Bellville and Giddings though...

CHS_CG
11-09-2008, 04:41 PM
You also have to realize that the town of Caldwell is a big hole, and the football field is the same! It is in a bowl. Cameron played a good game but wasnt able to keep the ball.

On the note about the band marching, I was in band/ colorguard all 4 years of my high school, and I never had a problem marching on our field...

HawkEye
11-09-2008, 06:40 PM
I read on another post that WOS has won 25+ district games. Also that they are playing Coldspring next Saturday in Deer Park.

Anybody know any specifics about either team.? I would guess that the early favorite would be WOS to play Caldwell in the early round.

ctownlegend
11-10-2008, 09:35 AM
I hate to go back on the whole wet field thing...but sorry guys..i've been away from 3aDL for a while and I honestly HAVE to comment on it...

Face it caldwell...no rain thursday night or friday morning...unless you want to count the sprinkler system..even if it did rain...the cloud must have not moved...and only been the exact size as the football field...especially since the ground around the stands was just about as dry and hard as the concrete walkways.

The watering of the field gives a HUGE advantage to Caldwell...everyone and their mother knows that Cameron likes to run off the tackles...did anybody else from Cameron notice Wells' uncharacteristic falls and slip-ups as he tried to turn the corner last friday night? hmmm...People have said that it would effect Caldwell more than cameron cause cameron airs it out....

1) Anybody notice that Caldwell only really moved the ball when they were able to run up the middle minus about 3 runs 2 by #3 and one by the QB? Hmm...thats downhill running...no need to cut or anything... :thinking:

2) EVERYONE knows that you can't pass without an effective running game...and except for one long James Wells run...Cameron wasn't able to get around the corner's and gain yardage like they are used to doing. We all know cameron is not a pound it up the middle team...obvious advantage caldwell..

3) Wet field=Mud...what does mud mean? Cameron recievers don't have thier speed...granted it limited Caldwells speed as well...but going back to #2...wet field=no running game for cameron. No running game for cameron allows Caldwell's 2ndary to back up and play the pass...giving them a better chance to stop the pass...

With all that said...I'm not big on complaining...and I know i just did a crap load...but hey...my Yoemen are outta the playoffs...I cant really post about the next game now can I? Both teams came out ready to play...but I think that Cameron couldn't get over a few of the questionable calls...in the end...Caldwell showed they wanted it more...Congrats Caldwell...BTHO WOS :clap:

Global Swarming
11-10-2008, 10:10 AM
I'm glad to hear that you're not big on complaining lol. So, I guess what you're saying is the we couldn't beat you on a dry field. How do you explain the 5 turnovers that y'all had? I don't think that a wet field had anything to do with y'all not holding onto the football or the 2 interceptions that your quarterback threw. Both teams have to play on the same field. I still think that a passing team has an advantage over a running team on a wet field. If your defense could've stopped us y'all might have won.

BV Sports Fan
11-10-2008, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by ctownlegend
I hate to go back on the whole wet field thing...but sorry guys..i've been away from 3aDL for a while and I honestly HAVE to comment on it...

Face it caldwell...no rain thursday night or friday morning...unless you want to count the sprinkler system..even if it did rain...the cloud must have not moved...and only been the exact size as the football field...especially since the ground around the stands was just about as dry and hard as the concrete walkways.

The watering of the field gives a HUGE advantage to Caldwell...everyone and their mother knows that Cameron likes to run off the tackles...did anybody else from Cameron notice Wells' uncharacteristic falls and slip-ups as he tried to turn the corner last friday night? hmmm...People have said that it would effect Caldwell more than cameron cause cameron airs it out....

1) Anybody notice that Caldwell only really moved the ball when they were able to run up the middle minus about 3 runs 2 by #3 and one by the QB? Hmm...thats downhill running...no need to cut or anything... :thinking:

2) EVERYONE knows that you can't pass without an effective running game...and except for one long James Wells run...Cameron wasn't able to get around the corner's and gain yardage like they are used to doing. We all know cameron is not a pound it up the middle team...obvious advantage caldwell..

3) Wet field=Mud...what does mud mean? Cameron recievers don't have thier speed...granted it limited Caldwells speed as well...but going back to #2...wet field=no running game for cameron. No running game for cameron allows Caldwell's 2ndary to back up and play the pass...giving them a better chance to stop the pass...

With all that said...I'm not big on complaining...and I know i just did a crap load...but hey...my Yoemen are outta the playoffs...I cant really post about the next game now can I? Both teams came out ready to play...but I think that Cameron couldn't get over a few of the questionable calls...in the end...Caldwell showed they wanted it more...Congrats Caldwell...BTHO WOS :clap:

A little history lesson: the last time Cameron and Caldwell played (2004, both were undefeated going into the game, and at the time it was for the district title) the field was wet at hell. The Cameron offense, with Ryan Mullins at QB and their good running back, carved up the Hornets. The field was so wet several Hornets were injured when they tried to plant. The field conditions should not be blamed for Cameron's woes.

King_LeYoeNidas
11-10-2008, 10:37 AM
this argument sucks because of the score gap but the fact is, there is a bit of validity on the advantage. YES both teams played on teh same field so YES they were both affected. The thing is, in conditions like that, Cameron was a finesse team, Caldwell was a pound it down your throat team. You can be pretty when it's dirty but you can damn sure continue to be dirty when it's dirty. I can't say a dry field would've made a WIN difference, but I have a hard time believing that the Hornets were 3 TD (nearly 4) better than the Yoemen this year. I wish them luck though. THey're gonna need it.

BV Sports Fan
11-10-2008, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by King_LeYoeNidas
this argument sucks because of the score gap but the fact is, there is a bit of validity on the advantage. YES both teams played on teh same field so YES they were both affected. The thing is, in conditions like that, Cameron was a finesse team, Caldwell was a pound it down your throat team. You can be pretty when it's dirty but you can damn sure continue to be dirty when it's dirty. I can't say a dry field would've made a WIN difference, but I have a hard time believing that the Hornets were 3 TD (nearly 4) better than the Yoemen this year. I wish them luck though. THey're gonna need it.

Another history lesson: Cameron was the finesse team in '04, and Caldwell was the bruiser (running the Permian Wing T). Cameron carved up probably the best defensive team they've ever had (they led all of Central Texas in total defense that year) on a mushy/crappy field.

What were the Liberty Hill/Cameron scores from the previous two seasons? When it is all said and done, the slot T when run properly can take out a team with superior talent/speed.

c-town_balla
11-10-2008, 11:25 AM
it was 64-14 last year and we sucked but, in 2006 when we didn't suck as much it was 28-21. But I've played Liberty Hill and Caldwell is no Liberty Hill.

OldBison75
11-10-2008, 12:06 PM
Cameron's destiny was in it's own hands the last two weeks. On their own dry field, turnovers and the Navasota offense and defense beat them. On the "wet?" field in Caldwell, turnovers and the Caldwell offense and defense beat them. Sounds like a trend without the "wet" field.

Face it Cameron, you had the opportunity to make the playoffs with a win or close game against Caldwell. It did not happen. I also believe that you had an early lead and Caldwell came back and just plain beat you. Was the field not wet early and suddenly got that way and stopped your momentum? NOPE, Caldwell stopped your momentum.

cameron91
11-10-2008, 02:21 PM
look I think the watering down the field was awsome..mane..you really have to be on it to come up with something like this.:D


when a team put 500 yards rushing on you , you don't derserve to win period. where was the defense .if cameron stayed in their 3-4 defense , then hey tell the ball coach make the adjustment.you're out man up front. In 2006 when cameron held LH to 28 points that should have been the blue print for Yoe High when they face this type off offense.this just goes to show the difference old school coaching (wilson)and new school coaching..

hornets good luck rep D-24 with pride you've earn it..

BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
11-10-2008, 03:53 PM
Champions make plays, losers make excuses.

King_LeYoeNidas
11-10-2008, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Champions make plays, losers make excuses.

So....your thoughts on that recent thrashing from Saturday? Other than being out gunned, out manned, out classed and out coached, I mean?

rockdale80
11-10-2008, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by King_LeYoeNidas
So....your thoughts on that recent thrashing from Saturday? Other than being out gunned, out manned, out classed and out coached, I mean?

What college sports program are you involved with again?

King_LeYoeNidas
11-10-2008, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by rockdale80
What college sports program are you involved with again?


Based on that statement, am I to assume one has to have been a former or current Dallas Cowboys player in order to cheer for them?

BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
11-10-2008, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by King_LeYoeNidas
So....your thoughts on that recent thrashing from Saturday? Other than being out gunned, out manned, out classed and out coached, I mean?

I don't recall making any excuses from the game on Saturday. Obviously we have some things that we need to improve on in order to get better. Plain and simple.

rockdale80
11-10-2008, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by King_LeYoeNidas
Based on that statement, am I to assume one has to have been a former or current Dallas Cowboys player in order to cheer for them?


Cheering for a team and dogging an individual that is part of a collegiate program are two entirely different things.

Dogman_1969
11-10-2008, 07:24 PM
Good luck to all three teams from here on out.............

Dogman

martwayne
11-10-2008, 07:28 PM
this game is over its been over and caldwell made the playoffs and cameron didnt so everyone needs to get over it because the real truth is navasota beat both of yall and we are better

c-town_balla
11-10-2008, 08:18 PM
thats about as relevant as the shot at a&m