UH Player Runs Into Band Equipment

[Matthew328]

Poor kid...that was very ugly......looks like a broken leg :(

[Bull19]

Originally posted by Matthew328
Poor kid...that was very ugly......looks like a broken leg :( saw that. right leg in a cast then his left you could tell was really swollen around his knee....unfortunate event that couldve been prevented

[wedo]

I know I saw that it was really ugly. That stupid band equipment should have never been in the way. When I go to class tomorrow it will be all over the campus newspaper. He was our leading reciever. CRAP!!

[carter08]

that sucks.


lol @ the daily cougar.


go coogs!

[Bull Butter]

Really sucks for that kid. He hit that cart at full speed. It should have never been there. Don't tell me that this is the first game Marshall has ever played in that stadium and they didn't realize that their band's equipment was parked only 5 yards from the end zone.

Stupid on Marshall's part:mad:

[Matthew328]

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8733420/Houston-WR-has-surgery-after-gruesome-injury


There is a link to the video....if you are faint of heart dont watch

[coach]

instead of we ar marshall...

We ARE.....LIABLE!

WE ARE.....LIABLE!

[VAMike]

Originally posted by Bull Butter
Really sucks for that kid. He hit that cart at full speed. It should have never been there. Don't tell me that this is the first game Marshall has ever played in that stadium and they didn't realize that their band's equipment was parked only 5 yards from the end zone.

Stupid on Marshall's part:mad:

MU band director has been quoted saying they have had the carts there for 2 years without incident. Lots of blame to go around on this one.

[turbostud]

Jim Rome let the Marshall Band have it today. Called them band dorks, band geeks etc.
That kid will probably never play football again.

[Bull19]

Originally posted by turbostud
Jim Rome let the Marshall Band have it today. Called them band dorks, band geeks etc.
That kid will probably never play football again. yea i saw that. freakin great somebody actually called them out like he did. he couldnt have said it any better than the way he did

[venomous tat2]

That kid is from Hearn is nick name is pat pat (Patrick Edwards ) great kid , great athlete hate that happen to him :(

[NastySlot]

ok...it was the bands equipment...but you know the kid is right it is partially the responsiblity of the officials to check the field and the areas around to make sure they are safe....as well as the adminstration of the host team and their facilities manager.....believe or not this stuff is tended to by a lot of different people at h.s. stadiums....why wasn't it done by those i have listed and why go off on members of the band.....the band director as the others are to blame also.......im sure someone in the past two years has had to say those wagons outside the endzone are an accident waiting to happen................I just don't understand going off on the band.

[jason]

bands and their equipment should be banned (no pun intended) from the playing surface and/or inside the fence around the field at all sporting events....

if people wanted to see the band, they would go to one of those contest that every band seems to win an award at....

i dont think ive ever heard an announcer introduce a band or drill team that wasnt award winning....

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by jason
bands and their equipment should be banned (no pun intended) from the playing surface and/or inside the fence around the field at all sporting events....

if people wanted to see the band, they would go to one of those contest that every band seems to win an award at....

i dont think ive ever heard an announcer introduce a band or drill team that wasnt award winning....

and the same can be said about cheerleaders and drill teams...their all award winning......and every school has some sort of all american cheerleader.

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by NastySlot
and the same can be said about cheerleaders and drill teams...their all award winning......and every school has some sort of all american cheerleader.

Not quite lol. I think if the bands equipment is kept in the stands or outside of the playing surface there would be no problem. A lot of schools do this, it was just a ridiculous placement with only 5 yards between the endzone and the grassy incline behind it. Its just that a lot of schools have and excess of room.

[Rooster#70]

Another reason to hate bands

[NastySlot]

everyone is so hard on the bands...why?......go to a game that the band doesn't make the trip and everyone is griping about not having the band at the game.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by NastySlot
everyone is so hard on the bands...why?......go to a game that the band doesn't make the trip and everyone is griping about not having the band at the game.
Exactly! :clap:

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Not quite lol. I think if the bands equipment is kept in the stands or outside of the playing surface there would be no problem. A lot of schools do this, it was just a ridiculous placement with only 5 yards between the endzone and the grassy incline behind it. Its just that a lot of schools have and excess of room.


funny thing we a have a dance team (not drill team)....we have had them for about 4 years....they aren't that bad......well a few weeks ago we came back from halftime a little early and they were taking the field and i heard the annoucer annouce "Now entering the field the World Famous Red Hots".....i just started to think i wonder how many people in Asia and Africa have ever heard of them....told that to a coach as we were standing there and he said i wonder how many people in the county have ever heard of them.

i know a little off the subject....no more off the subject post.

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by NastySlot
everyone is so hard on the bands...why?......go to a game that the band doesn't make the trip and everyone is griping about not having the band at the game.

I'm all for the band, but I do not miss them at all when they are not there.

[jason]

Originally posted by NastySlot
everyone is so hard on the bands...why?......go to a game that the band doesn't make the trip and everyone is griping about not having the band at the game. i guarantee not everyone is griping...

[NastySlot]

never been in band....never had any kids in band...but to me as a teacher and coach...i am thankful we have organizations like the band....there should be something for everyone in high school...i really enjoy hearing about their success as well as other organizations we have here from HOSA to ROTC......it's great to talk with those kids about what they are doing...it makes them feel like a big part of the high school experience. When we are sitting around this summer counting down the days til the start of another season...some will always say i can't wait for the season..." the smell of the grass, the concession stand grills..the popping of the pads...whistles and sounds of the band." After so many years of that experience...it is always odd when i go to watch games and there is no band to play a schools fight song or alma mater....and i love march grandioso, and other songs....makes the experience a little bit better.

just wondering...how many people do this...i do it a lot...when you here a fight song...say oh that's so and so's fight also...or that was my high school fight song.

[Bull19]

i respect the band, and i enjoy have them at the games(uasually), but it is a FOOTBALL GAME not a marching contest. they should be outa the way, no excuses. we all know if something or someone got in the way at a marching contest they would get upset, but it seems when they get in the way at the football games it usually slides. all i ask is for them to remember its a football game and they are not first priority.

[NastySlot]

ok i understand a little better...i have come out many times and wondered why the band has to put on their entire contest show at halftime...and wished they would hurry up and get off...i am guilty......but like i orginally said why blame the band members when that whole accident could have been prevented by so many different people....not some fourth chair trumpet player....blame the officials it's part of their responsibility..blame the band director, blame the Marshall adminstration, blame the facilities manager...heck even blame the University of Houston staff for not saying that the wagons were unsafe and should be moved.


my question why go off on the band and it's members....you think if the kid's mom decides to sue she's going to go after the members in the band of the people i mentioned?

[jason]

Originally posted by Bull19
we all know if something or someone got in the way at a marching contest they would get upset, but it seems when they get in the way at the football games it usually slides.

you mean something like THIS (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5294&highlight=complaint)

[Ranger Mom]

We got rained out on our first game a few years ago and had to postpone until the next day.

The cheerleaders and band were already going to some kind of competition so they weren't there...for either team!!

It seemed more like a scrimmage than a football game....no school song, no fight song...no footballs thrown in the stands after a TD.......I didn't like it!!!

[Bull19]

Originally posted by jason
you mean something like THIS (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5294&highlight=complaint) yes.

[jason]

THE BAND IS ON THE FIELD OMG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYROBfMPCso&feature=related)

[Bull19]

your priority list on that other thread is great jason. couldnt have said it any better

[WylieBulldog92]

Report on the Surgery.

Those who saw the play, or its gruesome aftermath, will never forget it.

The irony is that Patrick Edwards, who suffered a compound fracture of his right leg after running into an equipment cart that was parked just off the playing field at Marshall’s Joan C. Edwards Stadium, remembers very little of the incident.

Edwards, a redshirt freshman wide receiver for the University of Houston, suffered the injury in the third quarter of the Cougars’ 37-23 loss at Marshall. Edwards remained in Huntington, W. Va., where he immediately underwent surgery, with doctors inserting a metal rod into his shattered leg.

“The surgery went OK,” Edwards said from his hospital bed. “I’m a little groggy, but I feel all right. The doctors said I might be able to come back and play next season. I’m going to say that I will be back next season.”

Edwards, concentrating on a pass from quarterback Blake Joseph, briefly got tangled up with Marshall cornerback DeQuan Bembry, then crashed into the low-slung carts, which were loaded with band equipment and parked just outside of the end zone.

Edwards’ lower right leg snapped, a horrifically graphic injury that was captured by ESPN cameras.

“I never saw (the cart),” Edwards said. “All I saw was the ball. It (the pass) was coming down, and I was concentrating on that. I didn’t see (the cart) until I hit it.”

Edwards quickly realized the severity of the injury.

“I could see my leg, but it really didn’t hurt,” he said. “The thing is that as soon as it (the injury) happened, my leg just went numb. I couldn’t feel anything.”

Edwards’ parents, Patrick Dixon and Patricia Edwards of Hearn, did not return phone calls seeking comment.

Edwards leads the Cougars in receiving yards (634) and is third in receptions (46). He was also the Cougars’ primary kickoff return specialist, averaging 20.2 yards on 25 returns.

“First of all, this is a very tough situation for Patrick,” said UH athletics director Dave Maggard. “That’s the primary concern as far as we’re concerned. Secondarily, he’s a guy who has been a very, very important key to our football program this year.

“Without a doubt, he’s one of the top freshmen in the nation this year, so it’s a tough situation. But our primary concern right now is for Patrick.”

Marshall athletic director Bob Marcum did not return phone calls seeking comment on the placement of the equipment carts, but the university did release a statement from Marcum that addressed the issue.

“They (the carts) have been in that location for two years without incident,” Marcum said in the statement. “However, due to this accident, the carts will be relocated at future home games.”

C-USA commissioner Britton Banowsky released a statement regarding safety standards at league venues.

“Clearly, all of us in athletics administration share in the responsibility for ensuring that the events conducted on our campuses are as safe as possible for the participants,” Banowsky’s statement read, “and I’m certain we will stay focused on that objective.”

Link (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/college/6085073.html)

[OldBison75]

You can spin this any way you like, but the band experience is just as important to those kids and their parents as football is to those that participate in the games. Band members are competing for award and trophies just like the football team. I know of several kids that have used scholarships from band and gotten a college degree. Don't blame the band for this accident, there is a university administration, athletic department, and league governing body that is responsible for field safety. THEY BLEW IT in this case. However, would you sue the coaches and trash football if this play was on the sidelines and the player hit a players bench and the same thing happened. If you notice, the band equipment is not really any closer that sideline benches and such.

[Bull19]

Originally posted by OldBison75
You can spin this any way you like, but the band experience is just as important to those kids and their parents as football is to those that participate in the games. Band members are competing for award and trophies just like the football team. I know of several kids that have used scholarships from band and gotten a college degree. Don't blame the band for this accident, there is a university administration, athletic department, and league governing body that is responsible for field safety. THEY BLEW IT in this case. However, would you sue the coaches and trash football if this play was on the sidelines and the player hit a players bench and the same thing happened. If you notice, the band equipment is not really any closer that sideline benches and such. yes the band experince is imprtant for some, but knowing that the band should realize it is a FOOTBALL game, not marching contest. and last i checked the bands do not compete at football game for awards.

[showtime91]

This all could have been solved if Blake Joseph didn't sail the ball out of bounds. Case wouldn't have done that.

[showtime91]

Originally posted by Bull19
yes the band experince is imprtant for some, but knowing that the band should realize it is a FOOTBALL game, not marching contest. and last i checked the bands do not compete at football game for awards.

But we can agree football is a showcase of talent for some kids as band is to others. And bands don't have competitions every week like football so they dont always get awards.

[Bull19]

Originally posted by showtime91
And bands don't have competitions every week like football so they dont always get awards. football is a fall sport. band last all year long, and they have uil sanctioned competions. seems like the band show be content with that

[Rabbit'93]

I watched the vid on youtube and if you listen real close towards the end you can hear someone yell "WALK IT OFF". Kinda funny now that the kid's alright.

[3afan]

Originally posted by showtime91
This all could have been solved if Blake Joseph didn't sail the ball out of bounds. Case wouldn't have done that.

good god .... :rolleyes:

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Rabbit'93
I watched the vid on youtube and if you listen real close towards the end you can hear someone yell "WALK IT OFF". Kinda funny now that the kid's alright.


he is alright?

[Rabbit'93]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
he is alright? He's not dying and his leg is surgically repaired right? Jeez lighten up.

[showtime91]

Originally posted by Bull19
football is a fall sport. band last all year long, and they have uil sanctioned competions. seems like the band show be content with that

Well here at Wylie, Coach Sandifer loves the band. (He played in the band in high school for a while) So there's no problem's with the band here. And this wouldn't have been a problem if they didnt make the space between the end of the endzone and the hill so short. They need to give them some space. It's not arena football.

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by NastySlot
everyone is so hard on the bands...why?......go to a game that the band doesn't make the trip and everyone is griping about not having the band at the game.

Not a problem when you are watching the game on TV :D

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Rabbit'93
He's not dying and his leg is surgically repaired right? Jeez lighten up.


uhhh..dude I was just trying to understand what you meant by that. Was not trying to say what you said was wrong or anything like that.

[Tromboneking]

Ok..as a BAND DIRECTOR that happens to love football...I can't stay quiet any longer.

As far as the band "banned" (haha very intellectual....) that would be perfectly fine with me...in fact that would be just another Friday night I would have free to spend with my own kids. Believe it or not, I give up a lot of family things to be at football games for the BAND kids....the smartest, most dedicated kids in school. I have never understood why it is so "geeky" to play a musical instrument...and why you are so much cooler if you can catch a football. Our band kids support our team 100%...in fact, several of our football players came to marching contest to support us. We have several BAND GEEKS that start on our varsity team. At least 3 (maybe 4) of our coaches were BAND GEEKS in HS. And if you haven't noticed I am PROUD to be a BAND GEEK...shows that I have some talent.

As far as the kid getting hurt...that is a shame. I am sorry it happened, but before you get all bent out of shape at the band...it wasn't like they put the stuff there in hopes of hurting someone. Come on...use the brain God gave you...oh wait....you are jocks...that may be difficult for you... (difficult means hard...want to break it down for you...)

[Tromboneking]

Want to clarify something...I know there are a lot of athletes that are very smart, intellegent people. No disrespect was meant...
I am by no means trying to make light of that. I just get so ticked when the band gets blaimed for stuff like that.

[showtime91]

Tromboneking all the way. I understand everthing you're saying and it makes sense to me. Most people may not care, but most football teams like the band, it's not a matter of whether a fan likes them or not. We (as in Wylie Pure Gold Band) are going to state on monday and the only recognition we got at our school was from the football team after band practice monday. They formed a long line a chanted "we are proud of you" and congratulated everyone.

[bandera7]

I understand what you are saying Tromboneking. I loved our band, and every time I hear our kickoff song I get chills.

However, I do wonder why the band placed the stuff there. If it is the only place they had, then there is the answer. That is probably the case, they put it where they were told.

But seriously, you have to think about that as the athletic director/head football coach. I know when Shipley from Burnet was a senior they had to buy out the Alamo Dome because our fences were deemed to close for his speed. Its college athletics, speed is going to be there. As a program you need to be smart enough to make sure the endzone is clear when you have speedy receivers.

[lakers]

Check out the video on Youtube, it will send chills down your back

[Tromboneking]

I have a feeling that that may have been the only place to put it. I watched the video and there is no room between the back of the end zone and the little hill area there. They would have hit the hill either way. I guess it all depends also where the band was sitting. They should have put thier stuff on the sidelines, not in the back of the end zone...but all in all it was a horrible accident.

Good luck to the Wylie band at state! That is awsome. I look forward to seeing your show tonight.