Can USC go undefeated?

[kepdawg]

And not play in the national championship game?

[BobcatBenny]

Originally posted by kepdawg
And not play in the national championship game?
Dude! Now I am going to be fantasizing about that every week that USC goes undefeated! :clap:

[Phil C]

If USC wins all the rest of its' games there is no way they will not be playing in the BCS National Championship game. Heck don't forget that last year a 2 loss team was NCs.

[JR2004]

No...

They'll have a spot. It'll take another Stanford to knock them out of the running and I don't see that happening. They're as talented as the 2005 version. Maualuga and Cushing are some darn good LB's. Kindle for UT is more talented than either one though. Too bad he had a defensive coordinator last season in Akina who was completely clueless. Oh well at least he has a good one now in Muschamp coaching him and Akina is relegated to secondary duties.

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by Phil C
If USC wins all the rest of its' games there is no way they will not be playing in the BCS National Championship game. Heck don't forget that last year a 2 loss team was NCs.

unless there are more than two undefeated BCS teams, USC will play in the game if undefeated

[cshscougar08]

I think if any team goes undefeated they are in because I don't think there will be more than two. I believe that the Big 12 Champ will be undefeated and USC will be as well. No SEC team is going to go through that brutal conference undefeated. At least, I don't THINK that any of them will. I could be wrong though. However, if BYU or Utah goes through undefeated, we could have another issue like we did with Boise State, although probably worse, because I would definitely say that the Mountain West Conference is much more reputable than the WAC. But yes I know that if USC goes undefeated, they will be in without a doubt.

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by JR2004
No...

They'll have a spot. It'll take another Stanford to knock them out of the running and I don't see that happening. They're as talented as the 2005 version. Maualuga and Cushing are some darn good LB's. Kindle for UT is more talented than either one though. Too bad he had a defensive coordinator last season in Akina who was completely clueless. Oh well at least he has a good one now in Muschamp coaching him and Akina is relegated to secondary duties.

i can only hope Sergio lives up to his potential

but i don't think USC is better than in 2005

maybe close, but i think the 2005 team was just as talented and more experienced

[Gp83]

I can see UT or Chokelahoma beating them

[BreckTxLonghorn]

Originally posted by JR2004
No...

They'll have a spot. It'll take another Stanford to knock them out of the running and I don't see that happening. They're as talented as the 2005 version. Maualuga and Cushing are some darn good LB's. Kindle for UT is more talented than either one though. Too bad he had a defensive coordinator last season in Akina who was completely clueless. Oh well at least he has a good one now in Muschamp coaching him and Akina is relegated to secondary duties.

Akina isn't that bad of a coach. In fact, he's been VERY good as a Co-DC and head of secondary in the past. However, it seems he's so much of a micro-manager (which is great for a positions coach) that he couldn't get all of his time delegated as head defensive coordinator. Muschamp is much better for the DC job, but I'm glad Texas kept Akina on for D-backs.

[espn1]

Originally posted by Gp83
I can see UT or Chokelahoma beating them You mean the University of Texas at Oklahoma!

[JR2004]

Originally posted by BreckTxLonghorn
Akina isn't that bad of a coach. In fact, he's been VERY good as a Co-DC and head of secondary in the past. However, it seems he's so much of a micro-manager (which is great for a positions coach) that he couldn't get all of his time delegated as head defensive coordinator. Muschamp is much better for the DC job, but I'm glad Texas kept Akina on for D-backs.

He's a good DB coach, I'll give him that. He's just an awful defensive coordinator. Leaving the best young players on the sidelines for lengthy stretches in favor of vets who weren't playing that well was maddening to watch at times.

[Sweetwater Red]

The only legitimate D1 team in the nation that could happen to
is OSU. I think the voters are growing tired of their blowouts in
big bowl games.:thinking:

[Gp83]

Originally posted by espn1
You mean the University of Texas at Oklahoma! UT Norman:doh:

[kepdawg]

So if USC, a Big 12, and a SEC team, and who knows maybe even someone else goes undefeated, USC gets in? Most of you are only thinking of scenarios where USC gets in. The basic premise to the original question is what are the scenarios where USC doesn't get in. Will a SEC team go undefeated? We don't know, but what if they do?

[BreckTxLonghorn]

Originally posted by espn1
You mean the University of Texas at Oklahoma!

You mean, TEXAS-TEXAS A&M-TEXAS TECH: STOP LETTING THE STATE'S BEST PLAYERS LEAVE TEXAS :mad:

[Texasfootball2]

The most interesting cinerio would be this:

USC 12-0
Big 12 Champ 13-0
SEC Champ 13-0

Because of the strength of the Big 12 and SEC, I think that USC would be odd man out in this situation.

Just My Opinion

[JR2004]

Originally posted by kepdawg
So if USC, a Big 12, and a SEC team, and who knows maybe even someone else goes undefeated, USC gets in? Most of you are only thinking of scenarios where USC gets in. The basic premise to the original question is what are the scenarios where USC doesn't get in. Will a SEC team go undefeated? We don't know, but what if they do?

There is NO scenario where an undefeated Southern Cal team doesn't get into the national championship game. Period.

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by Texasfootball2
The most interesting cinerio would be this:

USC 12-0
Big 12 Champ 13-0
SEC Champ 13-0

Because of the strength of the Big 12 and SEC, I think that USC would be odd man out in this situation.

Just My Opinion

If the SEC Champ is 13-0, don't even bother playing the NC
game, just hand them the trophy.:thinking: :devil:

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by JR2004
There is NO scenario where an undefeated Southern Cal team doesn't get into the national championship game. Period.

Because the powers that be would want them in? Or the system in place would actually favor USC?

[JR2004]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Because the powers that be would want them in? Or the system in place would actually favor USC?

Because they're, by far, the best team in the counrty and they'll finish ranked #1. I'm sure some Pac-10 team will give them a good game, but they'll win out and be playing for the title.

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by JR2004
Because they're, by far, the best team in the counrty and they'll finish ranked #1. I'm sure some Pac-10 team will give them a good game, but they'll win out and be playing for the title.

By far? Really?

[JR2004]

Originally posted by kepdawg
By far? Really?

Yes...People can hate on the crap they have to now play in conference and some of the lopsided scores they'll run up, but they're just that good.

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by Texasfootball2
The most interesting cinerio would be this:

USC 12-0
Big 12 Champ 13-0
SEC Champ 13-0

Because of the strength of the Big 12 and SEC, I think that USC would be odd man out in this situation.

Just My Opinion

I agree that in this case that USC would get left out. However, it will, once again, be up to the hated BCS system to determine who is in and who isn't. And unfortunately, that would probably mean that USC would get in.

OK just for fun, here's a scenario. Let's see what happens with this one.

USC- 11-1
Oklahoma- 12-1 (loss to Texas) (Big 12 champs)
Missouri- 12-1 (loss in Big 12 Title game)
UGA- 12-1 (SEC Champs)
BYU- 12-0 (MWC Champs)

Have fun!!!

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by JR2004
Yes...People can hate on the crap they have to now play in conference and some of the lopsided scores they'll run up, but they're just that good.

Not picking sides here but somebody posted the rivals(?) top
100 players. It seemed like every third player on the list was
commited to USC or had them on their short list. It looks like
they will continue to be good for a while.

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Not picking sides here but somebody posted the rivals(?) top
100 players. It seemed like every third player on the list was
commited to USC or had them on their short list. It looks like
they we'll continue to be good for a while.

Pete Carroll knows how to recruit. His demeanor is extremely appealing to players. He's an extremely laid back guy in almost every aspect. There was a great article on SI.com that compared him and Tressel.

[garciap77]

Originally posted by kepdawg
And not play in the national championship game?

If they play Celina, they will not go undefeated, and they won't play in the national championship!

:D :D :D

[Phil C]

If Notre Dame ever goes 12 - 0 they will be in the BCS championship game no matter what their schedule is or whoever else is perfect.

[block&tackle]

Like JR said, there is no scenario possible where USC is undefeated and doesn't get in. The last time that happened (2003?) they changed the BCS so that it couldn't happen again (by minimizing SOS so that USC couldn't be penalized by being in the weak PAC-10). The BCS needs a big-market draw for ratings and they don't want to see another game between schools from Oklahoma and Alabama while a California school is sitting home watching.

On a side note, my understanding is that the NCAA is going to come down with a ruling finally on the Reggie Bush thing (nearly 1 million in improper benefits to family) back in '05. Punishment will include at minimum forfeting the '05 season but could include loss of scholarships, probation, and having their '04 title stripped. They will probably hold it until after the season but it could impact that recruiting class that someone mentioned.

[Old Tiger]

Don't be stupid we all know if USC was left out they'd be the AP MNC:rolleyes:

[ziggy29]

USC is proof that no matter what some people claim, there IS professional football in Los Angeles.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by block&tackle
Like JR said, there is no scenario possible where USC is undefeated and doesn't get in. .


Actually their is scenarios it can happen..because Big 12 and SEC have champ games, AND out consider stronger conferences, USC could very well end up 3rd in the final BCS

there was just an article on espn.com about the fact there is a real good chance if Big !2 champ and SEC champ are unbeaten, they will play in Title game

[BTownVBall3]

Why was this thread even made?

Think what it is asking...

Can a team that has been #1 since the second AP and US Today rankings go undefeated and not be in the national championship..

Really?

[BTownVBall3]

The made ohio state (who will win the big ten this year) look absolutely terrible and will probably end up being a top 5 team by the time the national championship comes around. No way they wouldn't make it.

[Necks_Fan]

LOL. They are ALREADY #1, but they will go undefeated and then not be #1.....



:clap: :doh:

[BTownVBall3]

Their name and tradition alone will put them in

[solocam]

If they go undefeated they will be in the national championship game
The win over Ohio State will help alot,Notre Dame has a soft schedule,so they should have a good record before the Trojans beat them
A USC win over Cal will also help keep them there

[JR2004]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Actually their is scenarios it can happen..because Big 12 and SEC have champ games, AND out consider stronger conferences, USC could very well end up 3rd in the final BCS

there was just an article on espn.com about the fact there is a real good chance if Big !2 champ and SEC champ are unbeaten, they will play in Title game

NO

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by JR2004
NO

No? how? yes there was an espn article about this very topic

the point of it was..as long a shot it might be..USC could go unbeaten and not make the BCS title game

it was basically saying if USC wins more then one game agianst a lesser opponent in an "ugly" way, it COULD hurt them enough to drop them just enough...especially if Ohio state ends up losing one or more games

[JR2004]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
No? how? yes there was an espn article about this very topic

the point of it was..as long a shot it might be..USC could go unbeaten and not make the BCS title game

it was basically saying if USC wins more then one game agianst a lesser opponent in an "ugly" way, it COULD hurt them enough to drop them just enough...especially if Ohio state ends up losing one or more games

NO

[big daddy russ]

1. USC is by far the best team in the country as of right now. Even though the OSU win looks less and less impressive by the week, they still dismantled both teams they played. The OSU score could've and should've been a lot worse.

2. Yes, there is a situation where they go undefeated but don't get to the title game. What happens if:
-By some miracle, USC loses their rhythm on offense and squeaks through most of the rest of the games.
-OSU, their signature win of the year, continues to struggle, bombs and finishes well below expectations.
-One SEC team and one Big XII each team go undefeated.


That sounds like a situation where they wouldn't get in. Not saying it would or could happen, just a theoretical.

[Wolf Playa]

Oh well, i dnt really care, USC will make it too the NC game, along with OU. USC will defeat OU

OU-27
USC-37

GG, UT gonna lose too OU and OU will play Missouri in Big 12 championship, and will be same old story.

[kepdawg]

nevermind

[BTownVBall3]

Speed kills

[JR2004]

Pete Carroll has two things he can't defend. The Single Wing and now very small RB's.

[areacode337]

Well we all know now that USC will not go undefeated.....Oklahoma, Georgia and LSU were celebrating last night...Congrats to Oregan State...

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by areacode337
Well we all know now that USC will not go undefeated.....Oklahoma, Georgia and LSU were celebrating last night...Congrats to Oregan State...

We sure were. I don't know what the scene was like outside, but in the dorms, people were all shouting running up and down the halls. It was pretty crazy.

[BwdLions]

What a great game. That's one reason I love college football. Hopefully the next big upset will happen in Norman on Sat.

[BobcatBenny]

I think it might be time to unlock the silly Celina vs. USC thread. :thinking:

The Bobcats have several small and quick running backs. ;)

[solocam]

I'm leaving for Norman early in the morning
I think the Crimson and Cream will be pumped and dominate the Killer Frogs

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by BobcatBenny
I think it might be time to unlock the silly Celina vs. USC thread. :thinking:

The Bobcats have several small and quick running backs. ;)

If you're insinuating what I think you're insinuating, that's billboard material for USC man...serious locker room fodder right there...


;) :D

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by BwdLions
What a great game. That's one reason I love college football. Hopefully the next big upset will happen in Norman on Sat.

We remember 2005 all too well up here. We're not gonna lose.

[wedo]

Man I am sure proud of that local Kid JaQuizz Roders from Lamar Consalidated, Its good to see someone locally on a national stage. And at that nobody else wanted that kid, who was only a 2 star player coming out last year.

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[forum_guy]

i would love to see mizzou and my lsu tigers in the championship....and of course lsu going back to back

[forum_guy]

i just keepin thinkin with games like this even though usc got upset if there were a playoff system they would still have a chance to play for the title...it wouldnt come down to this one loss...cuz u know if they played it 10 times usc would probably win this game 8 or 9 times....

[Necks_Fan]

SWEEEEET!



I HATE USC. The media rides their jocks constantly and I love to see them lose.



Ditto to what Wedo said.


The local FB county kid put on a show last night. Impressive!

[bulldog64]

USC will probably have three losses, and play LSU, who will have 3 losses as well , for the National Championship. Oklahoma and Mizzou will have maybe one loss as will Georgia, but Ohio State will have a better shot at getting to the "game" than Big 12 Schools, and Georgia. those pollsters love Schools that abbreviate with three letters and have an S and a U in them.