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Pick6
09-24-2008, 11:03 AM
LAS VEGAS, N.M. — It was shocking enough when six high school football players were accused of sodomizing six younger teammates with a broomstick during training camp. But the scandal was raised to a whole new level when the coaches were accused of turning a blind eye to the hazing.

Since then, Robertson High's head football coach and all five assistants have resigned, and prosecutors are considering charges against adults and youngsters alike.

The incident has turned student against student in the town of 14,000, and subjected some of the school's athletes to lewd taunts from spectators.

"I'm very sad, so very sad for these young men," said Veronica Sanchez, a retiree who knows one of the victims and one of the accused. Her friends and family, she said, are split "kind of 50-50" on whether to blame the coaching staff or the older players.

The scandal unfolded at a four-day, mid-August preseason training camp in the mountains west of Las Vegas, a predominantly Hispanic, once-booming Old West town 60 miles from Santa Fe, now known for its stately Victorian homes.

According to state police reports, a group of juniors assaulted several younger teammates over two days, holding the victims down while a broomstick was forced into their rectums over their athletic shorts.

Police did not find out about it from school officials; instead, a state police officer whose son is on the team learned of the allegations through his wife, a camp volunteer.

The alleged ringleader was expelled from school. The others — some of them veteran members of the highly successful team — were suspended through the end of the school year. The six victims returned to the team.

Several residents declined to give their names but expressed disbelief, frustration and embarrassment over the case, along with anger — some directed at the coaches, some at the media inquiring about the scandal.

On the field, the Cardinals — who played in the state championship game in each of the past three years, winning the title in 2005 and 2006 — have struggled, losing their first three contests by lopsided scores of 51-7, 34-6 and 35-13.

"These are young kids in a difficult, difficult environment," said Bob Rothstein, an attorney for several victims' families. "They have to go to school every day and they're still trying to play football on the team. They certainly didn't want to be exposed in this way."

School Superintendent Rick Romero said spectators at some opposing schools have taunted the Robertson girls' soccer team and a middle school girls' volleyball team with "references to broomsticks and other very inappropriate sexual innuendoes."

A school district investigation released earlier this month accused the coaching staff of not adequately supervising the players and failing to look into the initial reports of hazing. District Attorney Henry Valdez in Santa Fe said coaches and school administrators could face charges of failing to report child sexual abuse.

According to a state police report, an assistant coach told the other coaches during training camp "that some sort of hazing incident involving broomsticks was happening." Another coach walked into a cabin to see "a player on his stomach on the ground, with his legs spread open," while a teammate held a broomstick, the police report said. The coach told the players to "cut it out" and the group broke up.

Romero said the coaches believed they had intervened in time to stop a hazing incident. But "as our investigation has unfolded, we learned that it had already happened," the superintendent said.

That afternoon, according to the police report, head coach Ray Woods called the players together and told them that if any hazing was going on, it needed to stop.

When Woods asked if anyone had been violated, one 15-year-old player raised his hand. But before the boy could elaborate, other players began making jokes, the report said. Several coaches told investigators that because of the laughter from the players, they didn't believe the allegations were serious and took no further action.

On Day 4 of what was supposed to be a five-day camp, Woods was approached by concerned parents. He gathered the boys again, insisting they identify those involved. Woods immediately kicked several players off the team, training camp was cut short, and the squad was put on a bus and taken back to the school.

There they were met by a group of parents, four state police cars and at least eight uniformed officers, plus Capt. Toby Dolan, who had learned of the allegations through his wife.

In an interview, Romero said school officials did not immediately notify authorities because they were not sure exactly what had happened.

"We were doing things based on the best information we had," he said. "At that time, neither I nor the athletic director, nor, I believe, the head coach knew the degree of the severity of the actions."

Romero said lessons about bullying — already a regular part of the elementary school curriculum — are planned with students at all grades. High school students will also learn about sexual harassment.

"This was a very violent, very serious form of bullying," the superintendent said. "Until we do a better job of identifying and dealing with it, this is not going to be the last time we hear about it."

Link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,426883,00.html)

Pudlugger
09-24-2008, 12:04 PM
Oh man, this is very bad on several levels. First, the boys who did this may face serious felony charges of sexual assault. Since, FTA, lawyers are involved their parents face civil liability. The coaches are really going to get fried on this for not responding aggressively to the assaults. The fact that initially one boy had the courage to come forward in front of the entire team and raise his hand to identify himself as a victim and the coaches did nothing really shifts some of the blame over to the coaches here. The school district better get out its checkbook because there will be huge judgements in this case. The losers here? The victims of course, plus the team members not involved, the coaches and administration, and the community who now has this black mark on what was a winning program.

There always seems to be one or two sadistic punks on every team that think it is funny and cool to haze the younger players. Others less culpable get drawn in and everyone is damaged by it. It went on when I was a player in the 60's and it goes on today. The degree of offensiveness varies and this, granted, is an extreme case, but all coaches need to be alert to the threat and should be prepared to put an end to it immediately when encountered.

nunya
09-24-2008, 12:09 PM
Someone inevitably told the culprits such actions were cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute.
:mad:

espn1
09-24-2008, 12:17 PM
I remember in Athletics some players would try to get creative with a bar of soap! Saw it on more than once! You never new when it could be you! Nobody was exempt. One of our strongest players had a bar of soap in the ol poop shoot! He was really jumping around I'm pretty sure it burned! It was funny at the time! Also don't forget the Icey Hot in the Jocks!

mistanice
09-24-2008, 12:19 PM
I certainly feel for the victims (young fb players) who were assaulted. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those victims moved to another town.

Pudlugger
09-24-2008, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by mistanice
I certainly feel for the victims (young fb players) who were assaulted. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those victims moved to another town.

After the lawyers get through with the school district, coaches and parents of the perps I'd say, yeah, they might move to Beverly Hills.

Phil C
09-24-2008, 01:17 PM
Made for tv movie coming?

Ranger Mom
09-24-2008, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Phil C
Made for tv movie coming?

Ewww...I certainly hope not!!

espn1
09-24-2008, 01:23 PM
Rest easy knowing that if this was my kid the culprits wouldn't want me to find them! I like to joke around but I draw a serious line in the sand.

Ranger Mom
09-24-2008, 01:29 PM
If you participate in this kind of behavior you may have to resign your job, if you are a coach......or take extra "bullying" classes if you are a student, and you will be suspended from school!!

But whatever you do.....do NOT dress like a banana and chase a fellow student dressed like a gorilla across the football field during a football game.....you WILL be arrested for that!!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


What's wrong with this picture??

JR2004
09-24-2008, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Ranger Mom
But whatever you do.....do NOT dress like a banana and chase a fellow student dressed like a gorilla across the football field during a football game.....you WILL be arrested for that!!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


What's wrong with this picture??

I think that the overweight popo who failed miserably at chasing them down was just embarrassed to be outrun by both a monkey and a banana. He had to arrest them! It was a pride thing!

Ranger Mom
09-24-2008, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by JR2004
I think that the overweight popo who failed miserably at chasing them down was just embarrassed to be outrun by both a monkey and a banana. He had to arrest them! It was a pride thing!

Actually.....from what the article said, the police didn't WANT to arrest them, the district "officials" are the ones who insisted upon it!!

JR2004
09-24-2008, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Actually.....from what the article said, the police didn't WANT to arrest them, the district "officials" are the ones who insisted upon it!!

So sad. :(

I'd pay good money to watch something like that happen at a game I'm at. Watching that popo run out of breath and give up was the funniest part of the whole thing. He literally gave up about 20 yards into the chase! If that had been the DISD officer that's at all our games she would've tackled them both and sent them home crying! She's tall and built like Terry Tate, the "office linebacker"!

Pick6
09-24-2008, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by JR2004
So sad. :(

I'd pay good money to watch something like that happen at a game I'm at. Watching that popo run out of breath and give up was the funniest part of the whole thing. He literally gave up about 20 yards into the chase! If that had been the DISD officer that's at all our games she would've tackled them both and sent them home crying! She's tall and built like Terry Tate, the "office linebacker"!

Most likely the Police Officer didn't want to run thru the homecoming activites and knew that there were other Police Officers at the other end of the stadium.

Ranger Mom
09-24-2008, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by JR2004
So sad. :(

I'd pay good money to watch something like that happen at a game I'm at. Watching that popo run out of breath and give up was the funniest part of the whole thing. He literally gave up about 20 yards into the chase! If that had been the DISD officer that's at all our games she would've tackled them both and sent them home crying! She's tall and built like Terry Tate, the "office linebacker"!

Here is another video....of the end of the chase!!

Video link (took a while to load) (http://www.celebritymound.com/?p=13374)

Ranger Mom
09-24-2008, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Pick6
Most likely the Police Officer didn't want to run thru the homecoming activites and knew that there were other Police Officers at the other end of the stadium.

homecoming activities?? That one team was in a huddle at the side of the field....it wasn't half time!!

The more I look at it the more it looks like the game hadn't even started.

It looks like two students going to the middle of the field, like we do before a game even starts!!

Pick6
09-24-2008, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Ranger Mom
homecoming activities?? That one team was in a huddle at the side of the field....it wasn't half time!!

The more I look at it the more it looks like the game hadn't even started.

It looks like two students going to the middle of the field, like we do before a game even starts!!

Maybe I better watch the video a little better

espn1
09-24-2008, 02:53 PM
It said 31-7 on the score board!

Ranger Mom
09-24-2008, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by espn1
It said 31-7 on the score board!

Hmmm..... well heck if I know then!!:p

Necks_Fan
09-24-2008, 04:40 PM
Dude......





What the heck?



I wonder how gay these kids felt when they "laid the wood" to the other kids. That seems REALLY gay.



And not in a happy way either.


Man that really sucks for those kids.

big daddy russ
10-13-2008, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by espn1
I remember in Athletics some players would try to get creative with a bar of soap! Saw it on more than once! You never new when it could be you! Nobody was exempt. One of our strongest players had a bar of soap in the ol poop shoot! He was really jumping around I'm pretty sure it burned! It was funny at the time! Also don't forget the Icey Hot in the Jocks!
I used to long for the good ol' days. Then I read this.

King_LeYoeNidas
10-14-2008, 09:08 AM
this reeks of a Lifetime movie.

Global Swarming
10-14-2008, 09:23 AM
I think that the victims ought to be allowed to return the favor on these bullies. This has nothing to do with hazing, this is just sick. Hopefully they didn't do any permanent damage to these kids.