Random comments from 2008 top 25 thread(s)

[BILLYFRED0000]

1-25

Nobody.

26-the end

Somebody.

I will try to narrow it down in a couple of more months.....

[Trashman]

Thats "Mr. Homer" to you!

1. Brownwood :D
2. Brownwood :D
3. Brownwood :D
4. Brownwood :D
5. Brownwood :D
6. Celina :clap:
7. Liberty Hill :clap:
8. West Orange-Stark
9. Waco La Vega
10. Navasota
11. Cuero
12. Gilmer
13. Abilene Wylie ;)
14. China Spring
15. Snyder ;)
16. Tatum
17. Farmersville
18. Rockdale
19. Lubbock Estacado
20. Giddings
21. Wimberley
22. Rio Hondo
23. Vernon
24. Madisonville
25. Sweetwater ;)

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by HEMOTOXIC
I don't see how anyone would put the 2 time defending champ, Liberty Hill, any lower than #1 or #2. They will proove themselves once again by the end of the season.



I would agree with that. Celina went to the state title game 3 years in a row and lost one to LH by 3 points with 6 seconds left. LH can play.....

[WOS87]

Unofficial Totals from Submitted Polls to date:

1(t). 239 - Liberty Hill (3 first place votes)
1(t). 239 - Celina (2 first place votes)
3. 227 - Brownwood (4 first place votes)
4(t). 196 - West Orange-Stark (1 first place vote)
4(t). 196 - Waco La Vega
6. 195 - Navasota
7. 186 - Cuero
8. 183 - Gilmer
9. 179 - China Spring
10. 175 - Abilene Wylie
11. 126 - Snyder
12. 101 - Giddings
13(t). 86 - Rockdale
13(t). 86 - Wimberley
15. 85 - Sealy
16. 81 - Tatum
17. 65 - Farmersville
18(t). 58 - Liberty-Eylau
18(t). 58 - Carthage
20(t). 47 - Sweetwater
20(t). 47 - Burnet
22(t). 45 - Rio Hondo
22(t). 45 - Madisonville
24(t). 44 - Vernon
24(t). 44 - Jasper

Just outside the top 25: Glen Rose (40), Estacado (31), Graham (29), all others had 16 points or less

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by Trashman
Thats "Mr. Homer" to you!

1. Brownwood :D
2. Brownwood :D
3. Brownwood :D
4. Brownwood :D
5. Brownwood :D
6. Celina :clap:
7. Liberty Hill :clap:
8. West Orange-Stark
9. Waco La Vega
10. Navasota
11. Cuero
12. Gilmer
13. Abilene Wylie ;)
14. China Spring
15. Snyder ;)
16. Tatum
17. Farmersville
18. Rockdale
19. Lubbock Estacado
20. Giddings
21. Wimberley
22. Rio Hondo
23. Vernon
24. Madisonville
25. Sweetwater ;)

thats trash. why bwood at #1? convince me why they deserve it...

[popcorn screen]

Rio Hondo....come on! They are a tad bit overrated. And Sweetwater is picked near bottom of their new district. Wouldn't that make Graham a top 25 on this list? Members have voted Snyder, Bwood, Wylie and Swater in the top 25. I see where Graham is knocking on the door. I would say that according to the members of the 3A DL, that would be the toughest 3A district in the state. Only 3 of the 5 make the playoffs. Some good teams will be on the outside looking in. What does La Vega, WOS, and Navasota have that puts them near the top? I know they are well coached and have tradition but I am not familiar with what they have recently accomplished. Other than that, poll looks good.:)

[trojan37]

Originally posted by popcorn screen
Rio Hondo....come on! They are a tad bit overrated. And Sweetwater is picked near bottom of their new district. Wouldn't that make Graham a top 25 on this list? Members have voted Snyder, Bwood, Wylie and Swater in the top 25. I see where Graham is knocking on the door. I would say that according to the members of the 3A DL, that would be the toughest 3A district in the state. Only 3 of the 5 make the playoffs. Some good teams will be on the outside looking in. What does La Vega, WOS, and Navasota have that puts them near the top? I know they are well coached and have tradition but I am not familiar with what they have recently accomplished. Other than that, poll looks good.:)

You don't know what La Vega, WOS, and Navasota has that puts them near the top. Did you keep up with any 3A football last year?

[popcorn screen]

All 3 had a good run last year. They have talent returning. Have not had the chance to see them in person, so I was asking if they were top 10 worthy. Not a knock on those programs at all. WOS is always a top 20 team. Not sure if La Vega, and the rattlers are as consistent programs as some of the others above them.

[WOS87]

Can't speak for Navasota or La Vega, but WO-S has over half of their starters returning from last season, with their 2007 defense rated #1 in all of 3A (per the Massey Ratings) and expected to be even better this year. The offense was mostly sophomores last year and had a very quick learning curve after doing rather poorly in the early part of the '07 season (actually scoring the most points in a single game of any 3A team for the season in Week 10 against Bridge City). They should be better than last year as well...

Last year's team knocked off #1 Giddings... and were 1-1 against Brock Fitzhenry the two years prior to that (winning by 21 and losing by 8)....

Giddings is 26-3 in their past 29 games with 2 of the 3 losses coming at the hands of WOS (by 21 and 9 pts), and the other at the hands of State Champs Liberty Hill (by 7)

[trojan37]

I had read on wacotrib.com, when La Vega was in the playoffs, that out of a 44 man roster last year only 10 were seniors. I'm not sure if he is returning due to some off season troubles, but running back Chris Parr will only be a junior.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by trojan37
I had read on wacotrib.com, when La Vega was in the playoffs, that out of a 44 man roster last year only 10 were seniors. I'm not sure if he is returning due to some off season troubles, but running back Chris Parr will only be a junior.


REFERENCE:

see Brock Fitzhenry

[trojan37]

Originally posted by WOS87
REFERENCE:

see Brock Fitzhenry

Huh?:confused:

[WOS87]

Originally posted by trojan37
Huh?:confused:

Fitzhenry and Giddings in general had pretty much the equivalent said going in to Brock's Junior year in 2006

[trojan37]

Originally posted by WOS87
Fitzhenry and Giddings in general had pretty much the equivalent said going in to Brock's Junior year in 2006

Gotcha.;)

[Trashman]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
thats trash. why bwood at #1? convince me why they deserve it...

I don't have too, because I'm a t-shirt fan wearing HOMER!!!!!!!!!

Of course it's trash, cause I'm The Trashman!

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
Here is an unbiased poll

1. SNYDER

Hahahahahaha!!!!! Riiiiggghhhhhtttt......unbiased. http://www.smilieland.com/graphics/32.gif

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
Here is an unbiased poll

1. SNYDER
13. Gilmer
hmmmm:thinking: where is that dang picture? I don't dwell on the past much, but i can assure you, there ain't 12 teams difference in us:D

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by lostaussie
hmmmm:thinking: where is that dang picture? I don't dwell on the past much, but i can assure you, there ain't 12 teams difference in us:D

Here you go aussie.
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff239/DaHop72/gilmersnyderyi5.jpg

I would hope the next time it will favor the Tigers.:D

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by DaHop72
Here you go aussie.
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff239/DaHop72/gilmersnyderyi5.jpg

I would hope the next time it will favor the Tigers.:D
well the good thing is that if it is in the next 2 years..............it will be for the title.

[WOS87]

Unofficial Totals from Submitted Polls to date:
(as of 2am 7/13/08)

1. 510 - Liberty Hill (11 first place votes)
2. 480 - Celina (4 first place votes)
3. 462 - Brownwood (3 first place votes)
4. 431 - Navasota (1 first place vote)
5. 430 - Waco La Vega
6. 406 - West Orange-Stark (1 first place vote)
7. 396 - Cuero
8. 377 - China Spring
9. 372 - Gilmer
10. 352 - Abilene Wylie
11. 259 - Snyder (1 first place vote)
12. 235 - Sealy
13. 177 - Tatum
14. 167 - Wimberley
15. 158 - Carthage
16. 149 - Giddings
17. 121 - Burnet
18. 113 - Farmersville
19. 110 - Rockdale
20. 103 - Rio Hondo
21. 97 - Madisonville
22(t). 89 - Jasper
22(t). 89 - Lubbock Estacado
24. 85 - Liberty-Eylau
25. 69 - Glen Rose

Just outside the top 25: Vernon (66), Crockett (62), Fredericksburg (62), Sweetwater (51), Dallas Madison (50), Graham (48), CC West Oso (43), Pleasant Grove (34), all others had 20 points or less


With almost a 100 point gap between #10 and #11 and only 48 hours left to vote, I would imagine the top 10 listed above will remain there.

[ssgmp5150]

Just for the sake of argument how can you rate Tatum at # 16, but leave Farmersville entirely off the list? We did beat them last year and have more returning starters than they do coming back, yet we were not even included in the top 25? We will welcome the underdog role though and we will see how everything ends up in December.


Originally posted by LHPfactory
1. Liberty Hill (14-0)
2. Celina (16-0)
3. Brownwood (6-4)
4. Waco La Vega (13-1)
5. Navasota (9-4)
6. West Orange Stark(11-2)
7. Cuero (12-3)
8. Gilmer (14-1)
9. Sealy (7-4)
10. Abilene Wylie (7-4)
11. Rio Hondo (11-1)
12. Snyder (12-3)
13. Crockett (8-4)
14. China Spring (14-2)
15. Carthage (9-3)
16. Tatum (13-2)
17. Fredericksburg (7-5)
18. Wimberley (6-7)
19. Dallas Madison (5-5)
20. Burnet (5-6)
21. Argyle (10-3)
22. Diboll (9-2)
23. Jasper (7-5)
24. Texarkana Pleasant Grove (10-3)
25. Corpus Christi West Oso (8-3)

Roughly Rixey..........Lotta good teams.....we will know for sure by Christmas

[WOS87]

This doesn't really have anything to do with the top 25 but the thread title is "Random Comments"

Trivia Question:

5 teams have a winning record against Celina over the past 20 seasons... 4 of which are 1-0 against them (Daingerfield, Archer City, Liberty Hill and Gilmer)

What's the only school to have played Celina more than once since 1988 (the past 20 seasons) and have a winning record against them?

[lion75]

O.K. We give up. Tell us.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by WOS87
This doesn't really have anything to do with the top 25 but the thread title is "Random Comments"

Trivia Question:

5 teams have a winning record against Celina over the past 20 seasons... 4 of which are 1-0 against them (Daingerfield, Archer City, Liberty Hill and Gilmer)

What's the only school to have played Celina more than once since 1988 (the past 20 seasons) and have a winning record against them? Frisco?

[WOS87]

Farmersville

[pirate4state]

so close :D

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by RTigMom
1.Waco LaVega
2.Liberty Hill
3.Celina
4.Cuero
5.WOS
6.Abilene Wylie
7.Giddings
8.China Spring
9.Gilmer
10.Navasota
11.Bellville
12.Sealy
13.Rockdale
14.Carthage
15.Synder
16.Wimberley
17.Rio Hondo
18.Prosper
19.Glen Rose
20.CC West Oso
21.La Vernia
22.West Columbia
23.Mexia
24.Needville
25.Cleveland
I like this poll exept I would still have LH #1. They still haven't been beaten, and I would still have Brownwood around #13.

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by Reds fan
9. Gilmar
yep, I heard Gilmar was pretty good:D

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by pirate4state

21. Bridgeport


:inlove:

[Bull19]

Originally posted by OldBison75
1. Liberty Hill (until somebody beats them)
2. La Vega
3. West Orange Stark
4. Gilmer
5. Cuero
6. Celina
7. China Spring
8. Navasota
9. Brownwood
10. Abilene Wylie
11. Giddings
11. Sealy (tie with Giddings)
13. Texarkana Liberty Eylau
14. Carthage
15. Bridgeport
16. Wimberley
17. Rockdale
18. Snyder
19. Prosper
20. Burkburnett
21. Bellville
22. Needville
23. Glen Rose
24. Columbus
25. Monahans sealy tied with giddings?:doh: sealy is no where near the same calliber as the buffs

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by Dieselsmoke
5. Carthage
WOW!

[cshscougar08]

We got a lot of Buckeye love going on here. 4th on a couple? Give me a break!!!!

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
We got a lot of Buckeye love going on here. 4th on a couple? Give me a break!!!! 64.5 ppg will do that.

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by Necks_Fan
64.5 ppg will do that.

True story. Still, Emory Rains. Whoo hoo. Jump around for that extremely impressive opponent.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
True story. Still, Emory Rains. Whoo hoo. Jump around for that extremely impressive opponent. word...it's like celina and their opponents.....LH/La Vega have been the most impressive thus far along with WO-S

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
We got a lot of Buckeye love going on here. 4th on a couple? Give me a break!!!!
Apparently you missed the instructions on the rankings. :p

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Apparently you missed the instructions on the rankings. :p

Which part? I'm griping cause I submitted one. :D

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
Which part? I'm griping cause I submitted one. :D
Well, then the other part.....about there being no right or wrong rankings. :devil:

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Well, then the other part.....about there being no right or wrong rankings. :devil:

I figured that was it. Well that may be, but hey, I can still gripe a bit. ;) :p

[injuredinmelee]

Originally posted by RattlerDude
1. Navasota
2. Celina
3. Liberty Hill
4. Waco La Vega
5. WOS
6. Cuero
7. Gilmer
8. China Spring
9. Giddings
10. Carthage
11. Abilene Wylie
12. Brownwood
13. Sealy
14. Liberty Eylau
15. Bellville
16. Rockdale
17. Prosper
18. Glen Rose
19. Snyder
20. Burnet
21. Wimberley
22. Needville
23. Cleveland
24. Mexia
25. Jasper

\no homerism here at all.

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
We got a lot of Buckeye love going on here. 4th on a couple? Give me a break!!!! I can feel the love from here:D

[slingshot]

Originally posted by Lion_Addict
1. Waco La Vega
2. Liberty Hill
3. West Orange Stark
4. Gilmer
5. Cuero
6. Navasota
7. China Spring
8. Brownwood
9. Celina
10. Giddings
11. Abilene Wylie
12. Rockdale
13. Carthage
14. Sealy
15. Needville
16. Wimberley
17. Bellville
18. Prosper
19. Liberty-Eylau
20. Monahans
21. Sweetwater
22. Glen Rose
23. Columbus
24. Rio Hondo
25. Burkburnett Monahans ahead of Sweetwater?

[Lion_Addict]

Originally posted by slingshot
Monahans ahead of Sweetwater?

What happens when I'm getting ready to watch the Cowboys play. Didn't even mean to have them in the top 25 :doh:. My BAD.

[Pudlugger]

Is it just me or has Needville gained a bump in this poll from its canceled game with the Leps?:thinking:

[charlesrixey]

wow--i can't believe Celina is still being put by almost everyone into the top 10

that's a lot of respect! :)

now, i do still believe they are a top 20 team, but these next two games will be huge

[BobcatBenny]

There we go. Celina is about where I thought they ought to be.

After the loss this week, and such a great game, I was actually inclined to move Celina from #11 to #10 on the poll in my brain.

Is it weird to want to move a team up for taking a loss?

Well ... I am definitely a contrarian and as weird as they come. ;)

Now that this year's Celina team has their own ranking, I might start participating in the poll. I did not want to throw down a #11 and spoil the party while it was going on. :nerd:

It would not surprise me to see Liberty Hill get an "L" hung on them this week. They have been playing a hellacious schedule and the Brownwood kids, if they are not too dinged up, are really going to be hungry.

Whoa! I think I was just channelling ... the Rocket! :eek:

[Mustangpride09]

Hop don't make me call a Big Spring alert. :devil: :devil:

[Global Swarming]

What is Brownwood's record?

[navscanmaster]

Originally posted by popcorn screen
1. Liberty Hill
2. Celina
3. Abilene Wylie
4. Cuero
5. WOS

Many good teams 5-25.
Well make an effort and list them. You might have some perspective that other posters don't about certain teams.

[Snydertigersrul]

Originally posted by Global Swarming
What is Brownwood's record?


1-3

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by navscanmaster
1. Liberty Hill
2. West Orange-Stark
3. Navasota
4. Cuero
5. Celina
6. Abilene Wylie
7. La Vega
8. Gilmer
9. Bellville
10. Carthage
11. Giddings
12. Bridgeport
13. Burkburnett
14. Rockdale
15. Sealy
16. Brownwood
17. Prosper
18. Snyder
19. Rio Hondo
20. Tyler Chapel Hill
21. Caldwell
22. Cleveland
23. Llano
24. Texarkana Pleasant Grove
25. Brownsboro

I can live with this poll. The top ten seems correct, there rest is just a crap shoot with a lot of teams deserving some votes.

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by navscanmaster
1. Liberty Hill
2. West Orange-Stark
3. Navasota
4. Cuero
5. Celina
6. Abilene Wylie
7. La Vega
8. Gilmer
9. Bellville
10. Carthage
11. Giddings
12. Bridgeport
13. Burkburnett
14. Rockdale
15. Sealy
16. Brownwood
17. Prosper
18. Snyder
19. Rio Hondo
20. Tyler Chapel Hill
21. Caldwell
22. Cleveland
23. Llano
24. Texarkana Pleasant Grove
25. Brownsboro

CS?

[BobcatBenny]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
CS?
Yep, I think that China Spring is totally ignored. Maybe it is the fact the La Vega is in on the highly watched LH, AW, BW series?
Which may just cast a huge shadow over the rest of your area.

[Pick6]

Originally posted by Budman007
1. Liberty Hill
2. W-O-S
3. Navasota
4. Cuero
5. Bridgeport
6. Kennedale
7. Burkburnett
8. Abilene Wylie
9. Celina
10. Bellville
11. Rockdale
12. Prosper
13. La Vega
14. Gilmer
15. Argyle
16. Carthage
17. Giddings
18. Sealy
19. Brownwood
20. Snyder
21. Glen Rose
22. Sanger
23. Cleveland
24. Llano
25. Monahans


Originally posted by navscanmaster
1. Liberty Hill
2. West Orange-Stark
3. Navasota
4. Cuero
5. Celina
6. Abilene Wylie
7. La Vega
8. Gilmer
9. Bellville
10. Carthage
11. Giddings
12. Bridgeport
13. Burkburnett
14. Rockdale
15. Sealy
16. Brownwood
17. Prosper
18. Snyder
19. Rio Hondo
20. Tyler Chapel Hill
21. Caldwell
22. Cleveland
23. Llano
24. Texarkana Pleasant Grove
25. Brownsboro

Yall's opinion but I'm surprised China Spring isn't ranked at all.

[navscanmaster]

Originally posted by Pick6
Yall's opinion but I'm surprised China Spring isn't ranked at all.
Consider that my fault. I changed my style and did a cut and paste. It didn't help that there were some shakeups in the upper echelon of teams last week. I'll see what I can do to get them in my poll, since I know they are top ten material.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by navscanmaster
Consider that my fault. I changed my style and did a cut and paste. It didn't help that there were some shakeups in the upper echelon of teams last week. I'll see what I can do to get them in my poll, since I know they are top ten material.
If you want to post a replacement, I can make the first one disappear. ;) But....will wait on you.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by navscanmaster
Brainfart:
Please replace my post, the third reply, with this below. I forgot to include China Spring, which is a pretty big oversight. Plus, I wouldn't want to get bit by a rabid cougar :p
1. Liberty Hill
2. West Orange-Stark
3. Navasota
4. Cuero
5. Celina
6. China Spring
7. Abilene Wylie
8. La Vega
9. Gilmer
10. Bellville
11. Carthage
12. Giddings
13. Bridgeport
14. Burkburnett
15. Rockdale
16. Sealy
17. Brownwood
18. Prosper
19. Snyder
20. Rio Hondo
21. Tyler Chapel Hill
22. Caldwell
23. Cleveland
24. Texarkana Pleasant Grove
25. Brownsboro i forgot about them too but was able to find a spot for them and remove sweetwater :doh:

[Nursebetty]

Originally posted by Reds fan
1. Liberty Hill
2. West Orange-Stark
3. Cuero
4. Navasota
5. Celina
6. China Spring
7. Giddings
8. Bellville
9. Abilene Wylie
10. Brownwood
11. Rockdale
12. Burkburnett
13. Bridgeport
14. Snyder
15. Sweeny
16. Sealy
17. Prosper
18. Cleveland
19. La Vernia
20. Devine
21. Caldwell
22. Sweetwater
23. Argyle
24. Columbus
25. Smithville

Where's La Vega? :( :confused:

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by Reds fan
As nursebetty pointed out I clearly had an inadvertant omission:doh:

Revision:
1. Liberty Hill
2. West Orange-Stark
3. Cuero
4. Navasota
5. Celina
6. China Spring
7. Giddings
8. Bellville
9. Abilene Wylie
10. Brownwood
11. La Vega
12. Rockdale
13. Burkburnett
14. Bridgeport
15. Snyder
16. Sweeny
17. Sealy
18. Prosper
19. Cleveland
20. La Vernia
21. Devine
22. Caldwell
23. Sweetwater
24. Argyle
25. Columbus

Interesting. La Vega below a team they dominated. :doh:

[lostaussie]

I notice several have dropped us drastically in their polls. We may not win a state championship, but I doubt seriously if we will play a 3A team this year that is any better than Kilgore. I like our chances of coming out of region III.

[eagles_victory]

Carthage seems a bit low on most people rankings yes they lost a couple games to some 4A schools. But they dominated Henderson who gave Navasota all the trouble in the world.

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
We got a lot of Buckeye love going on here. 4th on a couple? Give me a break!!!!

You're probably right. 67-6 (including the five games this season) since the 03 season probably has nothing to do with it. Losing to a 4A team which has a 4-1 record this year and is a favorite to win their district has nothing to do with it. The fact that we only have 3 returning starters (and only had four returning to the 04 State Championship team) has nothing to do with it.
Our real ranking should be anywhere in the poll as long as it's below China Spring, right?! I mean, after all, y'all did make it to the state finals last year......oh wait!!!!

Here's a quick joke for ya:

What's the difference between Gilmer and China Spring?

The last time Gilmer played Celina, we won.

[Bull's-eye]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
Carthage seems a bit low on most people rankings yes they lost a couple games to some 4A schools. But they dominated Henderson who gave Navasota all the trouble in the world.

Yes, good observation. I have been told you can't compare scores of common opponents, but what else do we use to decide these rankings?

I also put Gilmer in the top 5, can't argue with their past success and a loss to a 4A team shouldn't bring them down.

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by WOS87
Unofficial Totals from Submitted Polls to date:

1(t). 239 - Liberty Hill (3 first place votes)
1(t). 239 - Celina (2 first place votes)
3. 227 - Brownwood (4 first place votes)
4(t). 196 - West Orange-Stark (1 first place vote)
4(t). 196 - Waco La Vega
6. 195 - Navasota
7. 186 - Cuero
8. 183 - Gilmer
9. 179 - China Spring
10. 175 - Abilene Wylie
11. 126 - Snyder
12. 101 - Giddings
13(t). 86 - Rockdale
13(t). 86 - Wimberley
15. 85 - Sealy
16. 81 - Tatum
17. 65 - Farmersville
18(t). 58 - Liberty-Eylau
18(t). 58 - Carthage
20(t). 47 - Sweetwater
20(t). 47 - Burnet
22(t). 45 - Rio Hondo
22(t). 45 - Madisonville
24(t). 44 - Vernon
24(t). 44 - Jasper

Just outside the top 25: Glen Rose (40), Estacado (31), Graham (29), all others had 16 points or less


I agree with this poll! Thanks.

[icu812]

You folks that have Van in their top 25 should know we do not deserve to be there after losing to Longview Spring Hill last night. By the end of the year we may be worthy but not right now. I thought we were worthy but after last night idk. We played like hammered dog fecies. Having our starting TB out and our best player sick probably had a little to do with it but we still would have lost the way we played. Spring Hill just owns the Vandals we've lost to them the last 4 times.

Brownsboro also lost (to a 0-4 team-Rains).

The best 3A teams around these parts appear to be:

Gilmer, Carthage, Tyler Chapel Hill in that order.

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by icu812

Brownsboro also lost (to a 0-4 team-Rains).


Looked for a Brownsboro score last night and couldn't find it. Wow! Well that will certainly change my poll!

I cannot believe that y'all lost to Spring Hill! I thought it was another Ch 7 blunder when I saw the score, but read the article in the newspaper which confirmed it. What happened specifically? Spring Hill is horrible!

[navscanmaster]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
Carthage seems a bit low on most people rankings yes they lost a couple games to some 4A schools. But they dominated Henderson who gave Navasota all the trouble in the world.

Something tells me that wouldn't happen twice. Still, common opponents theory is flawed at best. Their receivers matched up well with our young secondary. The one returning starter at DB the Rattlers had wasn't thrown at. Henderson threw to the right side of the field almost exclusively, where a first year DB and first year SS were defending. I more or less threw the blame at the coaches for not making any adjustments in the secondary. Carthage on the other hand has a solid defensive unit with speed to burn and experience.

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by navscanmaster
Something tells me that wouldn't happen twice. Still, common opponents theory is flawed at best. Their receivers matched up well with our young secondary. The one returning starter at DB the Rattlers had wasn't thrown at. Henderson threw to the right side of the field almost exclusively, where a first year DB and first year SS were defending. I more or less threw the blame at the coaches for not making any adjustments in the secondary. Carthage on the other hand has a solid defensive unit with speed to burn and experience.

Imagine that! A coach throws at the lesser experienced player!

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Imagine that! A coach throws at the lesser experienced player!

Coaches only throw at inexperienced or young guys to let them feel like they are part of the game! Nothing more.:D

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
Coaches only throw at inexperienced or young guys to let them feel like they are part of the game! Nothing more.:D

Well that was awfully nice of the coach!

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by icu812
We played like hammered dog fecies.
Okay, I really hate to laugh, but that cracked me up! :D Is that close to "warmed over"?

[BTownVBall3]

Half the polls don't even have Belllville in them..That's funny. Especially when Sealy is still ranked.

[icu812]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
Looked for a Brownsboro score last night and couldn't find it. Wow! Well that will certainly change my poll!

I cannot believe that y'all lost to Spring Hill! I thought it was another Ch 7 blunder when I saw the score, but read the article in the newspaper which confirmed it. What happened specifically? Spring Hill is horrible!

Yeah Brownsboro had just whipped Spring Hill the week before then lose to a winless Rains team 47 to 41. Just doesn't make any sense to me.

As far as Van/Spring Hill goes I would not say Spring Hill is horrible. They are just young (they start 10 Sophmores). They played great we didn't. After big wins over Palestine and Mabank it looked to me like our boys thought they could just show up. Also, Van has a hard time beating well coached teams regardless of how much talent they have (this happens everytime we play Lindale). If Van doesn't come in with a game plan which works they usually don't adjust well during the game. Our best player was really sick, our starting TB didn't play and we have several others injured after a physical game vs. Mabank last week. There were just a lot of factors Van needed to overcome and they didn't. Great game by Spring Hill.

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by BTownVBall3
Half the polls don't even have Belllville in them..That's funny. Especially when Sealy is still ranked. I left Bellville out ill admit I blew it on that one. Sometimes you forget about certain teams when making a poll.

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
You're probably right. 67-6 (including the five games this season) since the 03 season probably has nothing to do with it. Losing to a 4A team which has a 4-1 record this year and is a favorite to win their district has nothing to do with it. The fact that we only have 3 returning starters (and only had four returning to the 04 State Championship team) has nothing to do with it.
Our real ranking should be anywhere in the poll as long as it's below China Spring, right?! I mean, after all, y'all did make it to the state finals last year......oh wait!!!!

Here's a quick joke for ya:

What's the difference between Gilmer and China Spring?

The last time Gilmer played Celina, we won.

You do know that was posted about three weeks ago? Back when ya'll had thumped two quite inferior opponents.

[Stangs325]

im taking it that everyone that has Snyder in their Top 25 hasnt seen them play yet

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by piratebg
1. Liberty Hill
2. WOS
3. Navasota
4. China Spring
5. La Vega
6. Gilmer
7. Giddings
8. Brownwood
9. Bellville
10. Burkburnett
11. Bridgeport
12. Prosper
13. Carthage
14. Celina
15. Cuero
16. Snder
17. Chapel Hill
18. Sweetwater
19. Kenndale
20. Pleasant Grove
21. Columbus
22. Caldwell
23. Sealy
24. Columbia
25. Sinton

What are you smoking:smoker: 1-3 Brownwood in the top 10, and Wylie not even ranked:thinking: Can I have a little of that stuff:D

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
1 Liberty Hill
2 Gilmer
3 WOS
4 Abilene Wylie
5 La Vega
6 China Spring
7 Navasota
8 Burkburnett
9 Carthage
10 Celina
11 Prosper
12 Brownwood
13 Cuero
14 Bridgeport
15 Sweetwater
16 Argyle
17 Sanger
18 Pleasant Grove
19 Kennedale
20 Cleveland
21 Chapel Hill
22 Giddings
23 Sealy
24 Jasper
25 Sinton

Very well though out here. I'm sure someone got left out, but I like these rankings.

[BobcatBenny]

Originally posted by Texasfootball2
Very well though out here. I'm sure someone got left out, but I like these rankings.
I think they look pretty good too.

[Stownhorse]

Damn, yall people love to overrate Snyder.

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Damn, yall people love to overrate Snyder. :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: I guess we will see October 24th.:devil:

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by DaHop72
:tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: I guess we will see October 24th.:devil:

As well as 10/17 and 11/07.

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
As well as 10/17 and 11/07. And we'll see if your ranking holds after the 10/24, 10/31 and and 11/07 as well.:devil:

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by DaHop72
And we'll see if your ranking holds after the 10/24, 10/31 and and 11/07 as well.:devil:


Well how about this. We will just see who makes it to the playoffs chief. :devil:

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Well how about this. We will just see who makes it to the playoffs chief. :devil: No problem, you can come watch us again like you did last year. :doh: :doh:



:devil: :devil:

[Stownhorse]

Only to see the one man show get shut down.;)

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Only to see the one man show get shut down.;) But the Tigers were still playing while the Mustangs were relegated to watching. :doh:

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by DaHop72
But the Tigers were still playing while the Mustangs were relegated to watching. :doh:

Last year the Mustangs didnt gel because they had a little too much I in TEAM with a few individuals. This year they are clicking and those hoodlums are gone.

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Last year the Mustangs didnt gel because they had a little too much I in TEAM with a few individuals. This year they are clicking and those hoodlums are gone. Now how do you know that when you are following the Bulldogs every game? http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5809/roflsmiliemn4.gif

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by DaHop72
Now how do you know that when you are following the Bulldogs every game? http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5809/roflsmiliemn4.gif

I went to school with them. Trust me I know.

[swstangs001]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Last year the Mustangs didnt gel because they had a little too much I in TEAM with a few individuals. This year they are clicking and those hoodlums are gone.





I would like to second that

[kepdawg]

:hijacktd:

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Damn, yall people love to overrate Snyder. Hey C, what about those who rate Sweetwater over Burkburnett?:thinking: What might be wrong with that picture?

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
You do know that was posted about three weeks ago? Back when ya'll had thumped two quite inferior opponents.

Not exactly sure I would refer to Jasper as inferior!

[garciap77]

Originally posted by DaHop72
Now how do you know that when you are following the Bulldogs every game? http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5809/roflsmiliemn4.gif

:D

[RattlerDude]

I think Dave Campbell has got it right.

[Pudlugger]

After La Grange wins Friday they will be ranked in the top 15.:D

[nunya]

Originally posted by Pudlugger
1. Liberty Hill
2. Navasota
3. West Orange Stark
4. China Spring
5. Waco La Vega
6. Cuero
7. La Grange
8. Gilmer
9. Celina
10. Bellville
11. Abilene Wylie
12. Kennedale
13. Carthage
14. Celina
15. Bridgeport
16. Caldwell
17. Giddings
18. Tyler chapel Hill
19. Pleasant grove
20. Sweetwater
21. Brownwood
22. La Vernia
23. Columbus
24. Devine
25. Smithville

La Grange #7? :rolleyes:

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by WOS87
1. West Orange-Stark
2. Liberty Hill
3. Navasota
4. China Spring
5. Abilene Wylie
6. Waco La Vega
7. Brownwood
8. Snyder
9. Bellville
10. Sweetwater
11. Carthage
12. Gilmer
13. Celina
14 Giddings
15. Burkburnett
16. Bridgeport
17. La Vernia
18. La Grange
19. Cuero
20. Sinton
21. Cameron Yoe
22. Pleasant Grove
23. Kennedale
24. Zapata
25. Argyle

WOS, you have two teams in your top ten, that didn't even get any votes in the AP poll. Personally, after #1 Liberty Hill, and they should stay there until somebody beats them, you can shuffle the rest of the top ten (excluding Brownwood & Snyder ) and make a convincing argument for it. I also think that Burkburnett and Bridgeport should replace Brownwood and Snyder in your top ten.

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by FormerBellvilleBrahma
1. Navasota
2. Gilmer
3. Bellville
4. WOS
5. China Spring
6. A Wylie
7. L Hill
8. Celina
9. Burkburnett
10. Prosper
11. Bridgeport
12. Cuero
13. Giddings
14. Columbus
15. Caldwell
16. Waco La Vega
17. Sweetwater
18. B wood
19. Carthage
20. La Grange
21. Kennadale
22. Monahans
23. T. Chappel Hill
24. Sweeny
25. Needville Dude.... seriously.

Bellville #3 and LH at #7?


You have seriously GOT to be kidding.

Wylie ahead of LH even though LH WON?


No Pleasant Grove and LaVega at 16?

Wow!

:thinking:

JMO.

[JR2004]

When they say rankings are just for fun this is why!

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by Necks_Fan
Can I just make a list of teams that I think should receive votes and stop when I think I have enough...?

1. Liberty Hill
2. Navasota
3. China Spring
4. WOS
5. Gilmer
6. Abilene Wylie
7. Kennedale
8. La Vega
9. Burkburnett
10. Bridgeport
11. Brownwood
12. Celina
13. Bellville
14. Cuero
15. LaGrange
16. Tyler Chapel Hill
17. Giddings
18. Caldwell
19. Pleasant Grove
20. Sweetwater
21. Cameron Yoe
22. Columbia:D

There's 22 teams that deserve recognition IMO....

That's all I got for ya.

Sorry If I left anybody out.

Is it kind of like this one?? #22 at 1-3??

[jimmyceatworld]

Originally posted by Necks_Fan
Dude.... seriously.

Bellville #3


Seems more legitimate than Columbia at 22

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by jimmyceatworld
Seems more legitimate than Columbia at 22 :evillol: :evillol: :evillol: :evillol:

[nunya]

From shear laziness, people are copying and pasting the most recent thread and changing 2 or 3 teams around and adding their own, so teams left out lately are forgotten.

This poll is getting silly. Except for Caldwell at #12.... THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING 'BOUT! :clap:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Necks_Fan
Dude.... seriously.

Bellville #3 and LH at #7?


You have seriously GOT to be kidding.

Wylie ahead of LH even though LH WON?


No Pleasant Grove and LaVega at 16?

Wow!

:thinking:

JMO.
Eh, who cares? It's his opinion that we're not # 1. Shoot, he could put every team on our schedule ahead of us. That's how he sees it. I'm sure the drop on "his" rankings from # 5 last week to # 7 will really screw up the ratings in the long run. ;)

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by nunya
La Grange #7? :rolleyes: LHPM this poster sneaks in his comments in the regular thread and you are slow to shoot it down :mad: :D

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by nunya
From shear laziness, people are copying and pasting the most recent thread and changing 2 or 3 teams around and adding their own, so teams left out lately are forgotten.

This poll is getting silly. Except for Caldwell at #12.... THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING 'BOUT! :clap:
It doesn't matter how they contribute.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
LHPM this poster sneaks in his comments in the regular thread and you are slow to shoot it down :mad: :D
:doh: Sorrrry. I'm trying to catch up - B U S Y day at work.

[CueroDad08]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
1 Navasota
2 Liberty Hill
3 China Spring
4 Bellville
5 West Orange Stark
6 Kennedale
7 Gilmer
8 Abilene Wylie
9 Waco La Vega
10 Brownwood
11 Celina
12 Sanger
13 Caldwell
14 Giddingsl
15 Chapel Hill
16 Burkburnett
17 La Vernia
18 Pleasant Grove
19 Cuero
20 Snyder
21 Cameron Yoe
22 Bridgeport
23 La Grange
24 Carthage
25 Zapata

You shocked me....Were is Sinton

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by CueroDad08
You shocked me....Were is Sinton 30 miles east of Corpus Christi :rolleyes:

[Buccaneer]

Originally posted by pirate4state
30 miles east of Corpus Christi :rolleyes:

EAST?

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Buccaneer
EAST? haha :D leave me alone i've had 3 hours of sleep. haven't you heard we are now in the gulf! ;)

NORTH

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by CueroDad08
You shocked me....Were is Sinton http://goiclan.org/forum/images/smilies/pirate.png In the Gulf for now, Pirate ship will land soon in the rankings http://goiclan.org/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.png

[Global Swarming]

Well it's good to see that having 4 losses didn't hurt Brownwood that much.

[slpybear the bullfan]

Originally posted by Global Swarming
Well it's good to see that having 4 losses didn't hurt Brownwood that much.

LOL... yeah, I was kinda laughing at Charlesrixley's poll that had both Abilene Wylie and Brownwood ahead of Bridgeport... Guess that Brownwood was beat by the #1, #2, #3, and #4 teams in state for those losses...

LOL

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by WOS87
After compiling my stats for the current week I have reconsidered so please cancel out my above rankings... I will stand by my numbers and post my rankings as such. (I defy anyone to call me a homer!!)

I truly believe Bridgeport does indeed belong in the top 5 above ALL of district 2-3A

1. Gilmer
2. Carthage
3. Bridgeport
4. Burkburnett
5. Prosper
6. Pleasant Grove
7. Celina
8. Argyle
9. Diboll
10. Waco La Vega
11. Sweetwater
12. Navasota
13. Bellville
14. Chapel Hill
15. China Spring
16. Monahans
17. West Orange-Stark
18. Cuero
19. Abilene Wylie
20. Jasper
21. Liberty Hill
22. Liberty-Eylau
23. Caldwell
24. Paris
25. La Grange

Question. You had us #4 in your first poll, but #15 in this one?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[WOS87]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
Question. You had us #4 in your first poll, but #15 in this one?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Click here ---> LINK (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87737)

Sorry about that but I'm fed up with arguing about completely subjective opinions and made my rankings 100% objective.

You're still ranked ahead of both Liberty Hill and WO-S

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by WOS87
Click here ---> LINK (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87737)

Sorry about that but I'm fed up with arguing about completely subjective opinions and made my rankings 100% objective.

You're still ranked ahead of both Liberty Hill and WO-S

Ah I gotcha. I didn't realize those were the same as your other rankings. Makes sense. No biggie. Jw.

[navscanmaster]

Originally posted by slpybear the bullfan
LOL... yeah, I was kinda laughing at Charlesrixley's poll that had both Abilene Wylie and Brownwood ahead of Bridgeport... Guess that Brownwood was beat by the #1, #2, #3, and #4 teams in state for those losses...

LOL

Yeah, rixey has it out for us, too, for some reason. I am just glad my team doesn't have two losses.:p

[Daddy D 11]

I would make a bet that LH would have a legitimate chance to beat every single ranked about them in WOS87's ranking.(Maybe, maybe dropping 2 games.) I realize they are completly objective and i respect that, but my subjectivness says no:devil:

[navscanmaster]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
I would make a bet that LH would have a legitimate chance to beat every single ranked about them in WOS87's ranking.(Maybe, maybe dropping 2 games.) I realize they are completly objective and i respect that, but my subjectivness says no:devil:

Looking more and more like a rematch might be in the works, D 11! What's up man?!!!!:clap: :D

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by WOS87
After compiling my stats for the current week I have reconsidered so please cancel out my above rankings... I will stand by my numbers and post my rankings as such. (I defy anyone to call me a homer!!)

I truly believe Bridgeport does indeed belong in the top 5 above ALL of district 2-3A

1. Gilmer
2. Carthage
3. Bridgeport
4. Burkburnett
5. Prosper
6. Pleasant Grove
7. Celina
8. Argyle
9. Diboll
10. Waco La Vega
11. Sweetwater
12. Navasota
13. Bellville
14. Chapel Hill
15. China Spring
16. Monahans
17. West Orange-Stark
18. Cuero
19. Abilene Wylie
20. Jasper
21. Liberty Hill
22. Liberty-Eylau
23. Caldwell
24. Paris
25. La Grange


What numbers do you use while calculating these stats?....just wondering.

[nunya]

Originally posted by WOS87
For those of you doubting WO-S, remember that we went 27 days without playing a game and 3 weeks straight without a single practice due to Ike whereas Silsbee didn't have it nearly as rough.... I expect the Mustangs to return to their previous form without a problem.

1. West Orange-Stark
2. Liberty Hill
3. Bellville
4. China Spring
5. Abilene Wylie
6. Waco La Vega
7. Navasota
8. Snyder
9. Sweetwater
10. Carthage
11. Gilmer
12. Brownwood
13. Celina
14. Giddings
15. Bridgeport
16. La Vernia
17. Cuero
18. Sinton
19. Cameron Yoe
20. Pleasant Grove
21. Kennedale
22. Prosper
23. Burkburnett
24. La Grange
25. Argyle

Hey dude, you ever heard of Caldwell?

[OldBison75]

WOS87
3ADL Hall of Fame
All-State

Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 1903
Member #: 5269



After compiling my stats for the current week I have reconsidered so please cancel out my above rankings... I will stand by my numbers and post my rankings as such. (I defy anyone to call me a homer!!)

I truly believe Bridgeport does indeed belong in the top 5 above ALL of district 2-3A

1. Gilmer
2. Carthage
3. Bridgeport
4. Burkburnett
5. Prosper
6. Pleasant Grove
7. Celina
8. Argyle
9. Diboll
10. Waco La Vega
11. Sweetwater
12. Navasota
13. Bellville
14. Chapel Hill
15. China Spring
16. Monahans
17. West Orange-Stark
18. Cuero
19. Abilene Wylie
20. Jasper
21. Liberty Hill
22. Liberty-Eylau
23. Caldwell
24. Paris
25. La Grange

Nunya, he even put Caldwell at 23 in his revised post. I watched Caldwell play and having reviewed other teams, cannot believe they are that low. I think they are a top 15 team if not in the top 12. They are much better than what they showed in the opener against Bellville. Take away turnovers and fist game jitters for a number of new starters and that game is a wash in my mind. Bellvilele is good, but they are not that much better than Caldwell and might not beat them now.

[nunya]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
1. Liberty Hill
2. China Spring
3. Navasota
4. Gilmer
5. WOS
6. La Vega
7. Bellville
8. Bridgeport
9. Abilene Wylie
10. Celina
11. Cuero
12. Burkburnett
13. Tyler Chapel Hill
14. Pleasant Grove
15. Prosper
16. Giddings
17. Kennedale
18. Snyder
19. Diboll
20. Glen Rose
21. Sinton
22. Sweetwater
23. New Boston
24. Carthage
25. Cameron Yoe

Hey dude, you ever heard of Caldwell?

[Bull's-eye]

Question: With Caldwell playing Navasota such a close game and losing by 1 point, how does that affect everybody's poll? IMO, Caldwell's loss shouldn't hurt them, but maybe put them a little higher in the polls. Does a narrow win, help or hurt Navasota? Caldwell did outgain the Rattlers and came from one play of winning the game. Does this show that the teams should be closer ranked?

[SintonFan_inAustin]

i put Navasota at 1 last week ahead of Liberty Hill because of LH narrow wins and Navasota impressive wins against decent teams. Navasota narrow win i dropped them couple of spots and dropped Caldwell from 13 to 15 as i moved up some other teams. LH i returned to #1 . WOS i know they havent been on the field much but dropped them few spots for the narrow win and most likely move up again as the season goes on.

[Bull's-eye]

I actually dropped Navasota a little and moved Caldwell up a couple of spots. Sounds crazy, but this game proved that Caldwell is a quality team and maybe these teams should be closer ranked.

[nunya]

It's just a shame that Caldwell will have to win 3 straight state titles and go unbeaten a dozen times to make people show a little respect.

It's just a lousy poll, but it speaks volumes about how overboard people are about programs with 40-year "traditions."

Blah, blah, blah....

[nunya]

Hell, I even saw some polls ranking Zapata and ignoring Caldwell. Nuff said.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by nunya
Hell, I even saw some polls ranking Zapata and ignoring Caldwell. Nuff said. have you put a poll together so we can scrutinized if we dont agree, its a poll of people around the state and when you cant be all over the state you will pick for teams you remember have been doing good, which is called tradition. i go and look at all the games the teams i put on my poll and try and get a clue of where they might be on a top 25 poll, but not all have the time or the time to waste to do that :D

[WOS87]

Originally posted by nunya
It's just a shame that Caldwell will have to win 3 straight state titles and go unbeaten a dozen times to make people show a little respect.

It's just a lousy poll, but it speaks volumes about how overboard people are about programs with 40-year "traditions."

Blah, blah, blah....

Hey! Caldwell got demolished last year by a current 2A Kirbyville team that WO-S demolished by 20+ points...

They also got demolished by a Bellville team who beat Brookshire by a smaller margin than WO-S did this year as well...

You're being a bit melodramatic with the whole "Caldwell will have to win 3 state titles" shtick...

Whenever Caldwell gets past the 2nd round of the playoffs even once maybe you'll get a little more respect...

Trivia question for you: When was the last time Caldwell played 13 games in a season??

Answer: NEVER

:p



Respect is EARNED

[WOS87]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
I would make a bet that LH would have a legitimate chance to beat every single ranked about them in WOS87's ranking.(Maybe, maybe dropping 2 games.) I realize they are completly objective and i respect that, but my subjectivness says no:devil:

And when (if) that happens I will congratulate LH

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by WOS87
Hey! Caldwell got demolished last year by a current 2A Kirbyville team that WO-S demolished by 20+ points...

They also got demolished by a Bellville team who played Brookshire closer than WO-S did this year as well...

You're being a bit melodramatic with the whole "Caldwell will have to win 3 state titles" schtick...

Whenever Caldwell gets past the 2nd round of the playoffs even once maybe you'll get a little more respect...

Trivia question for you: When was the last time Caldwell played 13 games in a season??

Answer: NEVER

:p



Respect is EARNED

Burned Nunya:eek:

[navscanmaster]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Burned Nunya:eek:
Yeah, facts kinda speak out there. I had no clue Caldwell had never played 13 games. We have played 15 games in a season in Nav twice, and 16 games in a season once. But no state title means respect should be earned. Even Brownwood with it's seven state titles has to go out and fight for respect. As a matter of fact, respect from tradition of winning and going deep in the playoffs is THE reason LaVernia remains well behind Cuero in most rankings.

[Bull's-eye]

I thought this poll was about this current season. It doesn't matter that Caldwell has never played 13 games, but what they are doing this season. Playing one of the top teams in 3A (Navasota) down to the wire should show they are worth a decent ranking in the polls. I personally didn't penalize them for their 1 point to the Rattlers.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by Bull's-eye
I thought this poll was about this current season. It doesn't matter that Caldwell has never played 13 games, but what they are doing this season. Playing one of the top teams in 3A (Navasota) down to the wire should show they are worth a decent ranking in the polls. I personally didn't penalize them for their 1 point to the Rattlers.

As my posted rankings are 100% objective (in regards to this season only) I can honestly say that I haven't penalized or rewarded them at all...



:p

[Bull's-eye]

Originally posted by WOS87
As my posted rankings are 100% objective (in regards to this season only) I can honestly say that I haven't penalized or rewarded them at all...:p

I was just making a general statement and not totally directed at you. I do wonder why the switch in polls? I understand you have a new formula, but there can be flaws in comparing teams and scores, especially when nobody plays the same exact competition. Some teams start slow, sometimes moving players around can make a team better. Inexperienced teams usually grow and become better and there is always injuries or other things that can make a team worse. I like to use the Massey poll, but only as a guide. IMO, there are a few teams that don't get ranked too high due to competition, but I feel deserve a higher ranking. I myself love numbers, but we all have to remember the human aspect. I feel that Caldwell has become a better team, so computing their earlier numbers doesn't really tell us how they are playing now.

I have no problem with anybody's polls, unless they intentionally leave off teams for reasons other than how they play football. Each individual poll can miss or leave out some teams, but our final combined polls have been very good.

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by Bull's-eye
I thought this poll was about this current season. It doesn't matter that Caldwell has never played 13 games, but what they are doing this season. Playing one of the top teams in 3A (Navasota) down to the wire should show they are worth a decent ranking in the polls. I personally didn't penalize them for their 1 point to the Rattlers.

Yeah but they didn't win. If any team comes close to an upset should they get recognition? I personally don't think so. If you can't do what it takes to win, you don't have what it takes to be recognized as a quality team.

[Bull's-eye]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
Yeah but they didn't win. If any team comes close to an upset should they get recognition? I personally don't think so. If you can't do what it takes to win, you don't have what it takes to be recognized as a quality team.

Caldwell has been on a very good roll and has destroyed their previous 4 opponents. It's not like they were a bad team that played over their heads or won because the other team had a bad case of turnovers. Caldwell elected to go for the win and attempt the 2 point conversion. How many times does the best teams go for two and don't make it? It was a gamble, but it didn't pay off. The funny thing is if they would of converted, they would probably be ranked in the top 10. I just dont see that much difference in this team, just because of one play.

[nunya]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Burned Nunya:eek:

What part of my post didn't you read about "tradition"? The point was teams or programs shouldn't be recognized based on that ALONE.

What it amounts to is a bunch of hotheads walking around with a chip on their shoulder because of what they did "back in the day."

I guarantee you had Caldwell been in Region 4 or Region 1, they would have played 15 games at least a few times.

WOS, you got a lotta nerve bringing up schools like Kirbyville who happens to be ranked in the top 5 or 6 now in some polls. They've demolished several larger schools already. What does that say about a program (WOS) who used to be in the state's largest classification and now has to resort to beating teams in villages with populations of about 700?

[nunya]

AS for China Spring, I'd wager anyone who lives more than two hours from there if they could give directions on how to even get there or what state its in. So don't be going off on here trying to look like some international powerhouse. One jerk response deserves...

ANOTHER!

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by nunya
It's just a shame that Caldwell will have to win 3 straight state titles and go unbeaten a dozen times to make people show a little respect.

It's just a lousy poll, but it speaks volumes about how overboard people are about programs with 40-year "traditions."

Blah, blah, blah.... Wow, what a whiner. How many teams with no losses or 1 loss are ranked behind you by the downlow. Give me a break, some of your South Texas buddies have you ranked ahead of an undefeated Bridgeport. Talk about respect.:hand: :hand:

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by nunya
AS for China Spring, I'd wager anyone who lives more than two hours from there if they could give directions on how to even get there or what state its in. So don't be going off on here trying to look like some international powerhouse. One jerk response deserves...

ANOTHER!

Ummmm. . . . . . . . . Hello? Point out where I've gone off on here trying to make us look like an international powerhouse please. Cause I sure as heck don't ever remember "going off" on here.

[pirate4state]

LOL @ international power house

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by Bull19
1. Navasota
2. Bellville
3. West-Orange
4. Cuero
5. China Spring
6. Bridgeport
7. Celina
8. Giddings
9. La Vega
10. Liberty Hil
11. Caldwell
12. La Vega
13. La Vernia
14. Gilmer
15. Texarkana Pleasant Grove
16. Tyler Chapel Hill
17. La Grange
18. Cameron
19. Brownwood
20. Monahans
21. Rockdale
22. Sweetwater
23. Columbus
24. Kennedale
25. Abilene Wylie

Maybe the most unrealistic rankings I have ever seen. Let my have some of that your:smoker: because it's making you:crazy: .:D

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by HEMOTOXIC
1. Liberty Hill
2. Navasota
3. China Spring
4. Gilmer
5. WOS
6. Abilene Wylie
7. Waco La Vega
8. Carthage
9. Celina
10. Cuero
11. Bellville
12. Caldwell
13. Prosper
14. Bridgeport
15. Brownwood
16. Tyler Chapel Hill
17. Kennedale
18. Texarkana Pleasant Grove
19. Snyder
20. Cleveland
21. Giddings
22. Sweetwater
23. Van
24. Cameron Yoe
25. LaVernia/Sinton

I think this top "10" in close to right on the $$$$$ based on records and strength of schedule. I do think Bridgport has earned some top "10" consideration.:D and Sweetwater is getting close. The rest of the to 25,( "11-25"). There are a bundle of teams that could be shuffled in and out.:)

[Bull19]

arent comments about people's top 25 not allowed on this thread?

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by Bull19
arent comments about people's top 25 not allowed on this thread?

No that is what this thread is for!

[Bull19]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
No that is what this thread is for! that post was on the regular top 25 thread up top. it was moved to this thread. i was complaining on the people that quoted my top 25 and put opinions on that thread.

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by Bull19
that post was on the regular top 25 thread up top. it was moved to this thread. i was complaining on the people that quoted my top 25 and put opinions on that thread.

Ah gotcha! Yeah that normally happens cause people are too lazy to put it on this one to begin with. Myself included. :D

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Bull19
that post was on the regular top 25 thread up top. it was moved to this thread. i was complaining on the people that quoted my top 25 and put opinions on that thread.
They ALWAYS get moved, sometimes quicker than others.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by nunya
What part of my post didn't you read about "tradition"? The point was teams or programs shouldn't be recognized based on that ALONE.

What it amounts to is a bunch of hotheads walking around with a chip on their shoulder because of what they did "back in the day."

I guarantee you had Caldwell been in Region 4 or Region 1, they would have played 15 games at least a few times.

WOS, you got a lotta nerve bringing up schools like Kirbyville who happens to be ranked in the top 5 or 6 now in some polls. They've demolished several larger schools already. What does that say about a program (WOS) who used to be in the state's largest classification and now has to resort to beating teams in villages with populations of about 700?

Again with the melodrama...

(1) What do you not understand about the word "objective"? Tradition was not a factor at all in my rankings. I could actually ask you the same question... "Hey dude, you ever heard of West Orange-Stark?" because I noticed you left them completely out of your rankings for the past several weeks. Seems very clear to me you are the hothead and have a very big chip on your shoulder, voting with emotions only.

(2) I'm not quite sure why I "have a lot of nerve" bringing up Kirbyville. You didn't really make a point there. Kirbyville has never been considered a "powerhouse" team in SE Texas and WOS has beaten them by at least 24 points every single time we've played them.

(3) Again, I'm not quite sure what your point was about WOS dropping in enrollment over the years unless you were giving us props for maintaining the highest winning percentage in the state despite being one of the smallest 5A programs for a decade, and then one of the smallest 4A programs for the same amount of time. Thanks! WOS had an enrollment of just over 1300 when they were 5A and were always one of the smallest teams in the classification for the short time we were aligned there. They currently have an enrollment of just under 700... And it would very likely be closer to the 900 range if the town hadn't been devastated by two major hurricanes in the past 3 years. As recently as 2000 our enrollment was over 1000. The school has NOT shrunk to the extent that everyone seems to think. Orange is still a town of close to 20,000 people which just happens to have it's population divided between three high schools (4A LCM, 3A WOS and 3A Orangefield).

(4) Please give me an example of a "village" of 700 people or less whom we have had to resort to playing... Three of the four opponents we have played so far this year have high school enrollments larger than that: 1512 (Nederland), 1200 (LCM) and 843 (Silsbee).

(5) Please just chill! I have nothing against Caldwell, I think they are doing well this season, I wish them the best, and I actually have them ranked higher in my rankings this week than you have had WOS ranked all season!

[navscanmaster]

Originally posted by WOS87
You probably just wasted a lot of keystrokes on a lost cause. I thought nunya had cooled down a lot after the loss to Navasota, but it looks like it was only temporary.:confused:

[nunya]

Originally posted by navscanmaster
You probably just wasted a lot of keystrokes on a lost cause. I thought nunya had cooled down a lot after the loss to Navasota, but it looks like it was only temporary.:confused:

uncool

[ProudHornetMom]

:dispntd: :confused:

You throw darts and then get mad when anyone doesn't respond how you want them to. It's so hot and cold. I don't understand that. We can't scream and demand Caldwell get respect on this board. I think each year, we are gaining some respect by what is done on the field.

WOS87 does a great job with stats for this board and works hard to give us objective, historical data. The polls are subjective at best but the members are thinking and processing by the information they have. I'm just be thankful we're on anyone's list at any number. There are a bunch of 3A schools that never make it on any poll. The Hornets are getting there but we can't have temper tantrums, blink and jump up in the rankings. And we aren't known state-wide yet. As we keep winning and play more post district games, the rankings will improve.

Everyone isn't out to get us or leave us out. Quite honestly, most want us to be successful...for the most part. ;)

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by ProudHornetMom
Everyone isn't out to get us or leave us out. Quite honestly, most want us to be successful...for the most part. ;)

Please pass this one to some other folks!

Good post!

[nunya]

Originally posted by ProudHornetMom
:dispntd: :confused:

You throw darts and then get mad when anyone doesn't respond how you want them to. It's so hot and cold. I don't understand that. We can't scream and demand Caldwell get respect on this board. I think each year, we are gaining some respect by what is done on the field.

WOS87 does a great job with stats for this board and works hard to give us objective, historical data. The polls are subjective at best but the members are thinking and processing by the information they have. I'm just be thankful we're on anyone's list at any number. There are a bunch of 3A schools that never make it on any poll. The Hornets are getting there but we can't have temper tantrums, blink and jump up in the rankings. And we aren't known state-wide yet. As we keep winning and play more post district games, the rankings will improve.

Everyone isn't out to get us or leave us out. Quite honestly, most want us to be successful...for the most part. ;)

You haven't been reading Cameron and Giddings posts lately, have you? Sure they reciprocate kissing up to YOU, but to Caldwell? HA!

Nobody from Caldwell even kept up with the fact that we've never played 13 games until some numbskull from damn near Beaumont screams it from the mountaintop.

That's not whining, it's called DEFENDING. Look it up.

I give credit to Navasota for the most part. Yes, they've defended us but it took a head-to-head to even do that and if Caldwell doesn't meet some notable team iwhen it counts - the playoffs - we're back to Square One, so share that with your son.

Go Hornets!

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by nunya
You haven't been reading Cameron and Giddings posts lately, have you? Sure they reciprocate kissing up to YOU, but to Caldwell? HA!

Nobody from Caldwell even kept up with the fact that we've never played 13 games until some numbskull from damn near Beaumont screams it from the mountaintop.

That's not whining, it's called DEFENDING. Look it up.

I give credit to Navasota for the most part. Yes, they've defended us but it took a head-to-head to even do that and if Caldwell doesn't meet some notable team iwhen it counts - the playoffs - we're back to Square One, so share that with your son.

Go Hornets!
You seem to be taking these rankings personally and are getting entirely too worked up over them. :doh: :doh: Numbskull????? Who screamed anything? Sheesh......a chill pill might be in order here.

http://static.pyzam.com/img/thumbs/g_340/graphics/7/MJZ1634.gif

[nunya]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
You seem to be taking these rankings personally and are getting entirely too worked up over them. :doh: :doh: Numbskull????? Who screamed anything? Sheesh......a chill pill might be in order here.

http://static.pyzam.com/img/thumbs/g_340/graphics/7/MJZ1634.gif

Perhaps, but prescription refills are in order for a lot more on here than just myself. Could the pill be made any larger? :p

[Maroon87]

Originally posted by nunya
Perhaps, but prescription refills are in order for a lot more on here than just myself. Could the pill be made any larger? :p

It also comes in the form of a suppository.:nerd:

[charlesrixey]

i can't remember anyone attacking WOS like that before, and i've seen him on many a website over the years

[nunya]

I'm certainly not questioning his superb stat keeping. It always impresses me. I simply wondered why, after so many huge wins (if they had been close, it would be different), that he left off Caldwell even out of the top 25. They're not Top 10 yet, but certainly top 25. They've scored more points in the state than anyone else so far in 3A. I do see now that he's added them at #23, which is improvement.:D

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Maroon87
It also comes in the form of a suppository.:nerd:
:evillol: :evillol: :evillol: :evillol:

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by nunya
I'm certainly not questioning his superb stat keeping. It always impresses me. I simply wondered why, after so many huge wins (if they had been close, it would be different), that he left off Caldwell even out of the top 25. They're not Top 10 yet, but certainly top 25. They've scored more points in the state than anyone else so far in 3A. I do see now that he's added them at #23, which is improvement.:D

Why can't you just be happy that your team is winning? Why does EVERYONE else have to be happy & shower praise? I don't get this mentality. If the team & the fans KNOW they are good enough who cares what a bunch of other people think?! I'd rather our team prove it on the field, week in & week out, then come crying on here demanding someone put us in the their top 25.

"I wanna know why?"

[nunya]

Originally posted by pirate4state
Why can't you just be happy that your team is winning? Why does EVERYONE else have to be happy & shower praise? I don't get this mentality. If the team & the fans KNOW they are good enough who cares what a bunch of other people think?! I'd rather our team prove it on the field, week in & week out, then come crying on here demanding someone put us in the their top 25.

"I wanna know why?"

Because even after people like myself try to calm the waters with polite follow-ups, it's

STILL
NOT
GOOD
ENOUGH

... and you want to keep it stirred by asking that type questions to get others to hop on board. Why does it matter so much to you to even make a comment like that? Be happy Sinton knows what the word semifinal means.

[Ranger Mom]

Someone "DEMANDING " respect has the same effect on me as being told to "BOW DOWN!"

I don't think so!

:hand:

[I_DONT_CARE]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom


http://static.pyzam.com/img/thumbs/g_340/graphics/7/MJZ1634.gif
I TOOK ONE OF THOSE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. :rolleyes: IT MADE ME NOT WANT TO POST. :(

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by nunya
Because even after people like myself try to calm the waters with polite follow-ups, it's

STILL
NOT
GOOD
ENOUGH

... and you want to keep it stirred by asking that type questions to get others to hop on board. Why does it matter so much to you to even make a comment like that? Be happy Sinton knows what the word semifinal means. How is it stirring when you just made the post I quoted this morning? :crazy1:

All I'm reading is "WHY, WHY, WHY" and all I'm saying is WHO CARES!?! Or rather YOU shouldn't care what others think. Just believe in your team. That's all those boys really care about. The support they receive from their community, not a bunch of rankings!

Nice jab at Sinton. LMAO

[Maroon87]

A poll or a ranking is just someone's opinion, and the last time I checked an opinion never won a football game.

[nunya]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Someone "DEMANDING " respect has the same effect on me as being told to "BOW DOWN!"

I don't think so!

:hand:

I don't think "bowing down" will ever be an issue involving Caldwell. More like "don't let the door hit us in the ......"

:rolleyes:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by nunya
I don't think "bowing down" will ever be an issue involving Caldwell. More like "don't let the door hit us in the ......"

:rolleyes:
I don't think the door hitting thing is in reference to Caldwell. :)

[LHPfactory]

Originally posted by WOS87
After compiling my stats for the current week I have reconsidered so please cancel out my above rankings... I will stand by my numbers and post my rankings as such. (I defy anyone to call me a homer!!)

I truly believe Bridgeport does indeed belong in the top 5 above ALL of district 2-3A

1. Gilmer
2. Carthage
3. Bridgeport
4. Burkburnett
5. Prosper
6. Pleasant Grove
7. Celina
8. Argyle
9. Diboll
10. Waco La Vega
11. Sweetwater
12. Navasota
13. Bellville
14. Chapel Hill
15. China Spring
16. Monahans
17. West Orange-Stark
18. Cuero
19. Abilene Wylie
20. Jasper
21. Liberty Hill
22. Liberty-Eylau
23. Caldwell
24. Paris
25. La Grange

I wont call you a homer, but that list just looks crazy.....no offense( or defense for that matter). Im sure in the end i will be quoted if this pans out........ ;)

[markp08]

Originally posted by WOS87
After compiling my stats for the current week I have reconsidered so please cancel out my above rankings... I will stand by my numbers and post my rankings as such. (I defy anyone to call me a homer!!)

I truly believe Bridgeport does indeed belong in the top 5 above ALL of district 2-3A

1. Gilmer
2. Carthage
3. Bridgeport
4. Burkburnett
5. Prosper
6. Pleasant Grove
7. Celina
8. Argyle
9. Diboll
10. Waco La Vega
11. Sweetwater
12. Navasota
13. Bellville
14. Chapel Hill
15. China Spring
16. Monahans
17. West Orange-Stark
18. Cuero
19. Abilene Wylie
20. Jasper
21. Liberty Hill
22. Liberty-Eylau
23. Caldwell
24. Paris
25. La Grange



Ok...let me see if I have you here. You have Bridgeport #3. Ok.

Then you have A. Wylie at 19 and Liberty Hill at 21....who BEAT A. Wyile. C'mon...I don't buy it. Monahans at 16!!!! NO WAY. Then you have Sweewater above any other team in district 2-3A? Why, on record alone? A. Wylie's two losses are to two undefeated teams. One (LH) is ranked #1 in most 3A polls and Friendship is ranked #6 in most 4A polls. A. Wylie's two losses are by less than 7 combined points.

On top of that WOS is 17 in your poll and in the top 10 of most every other poll!!!!

I don't think you know what you're talking about!

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by markp08
Ok...let me see if I have you here. You have Bridgeport #3. Ok.

Then you have A. Wylie at 19 and Liberty Hill at 21....who BEAT A. Wyile. C'mon...I don't buy it. Monahans at 16!!!! NO WAY. Then you have Sweewater above any other team in district 2-3A? Why, on record alone? A. Wylie's two losses are to two undefeated teams. One (LH) is ranked #1 in most 3A polls and Friendship is ranked #6 in most 4A polls. A. Wylie's two losses are by less than 7 combined points.

On top of that WOS is 17 in your poll and in the top 10 of most every other poll!!!!

I don't think you know what you're talking about!

Gah you people just don't get it do you!?!?!?! This isn't his opinion poll. This poll is based on the stats he keeps. He puts them into some very complicated formula which I'm not going to explain and then gets these rankings based on that. He's not saying that Sweetwater is the best team in 2-3A or that Liberty Hill is the #21 team in the state. That's just how the formula came out. So quit your -----ing and deal with it! That's just how it worked. I like that he's not doing it subjectively. Wish I was smart enough to come up with a nifty cool formula myself! :D

Here's the link to his equation and what he said when I asked him about it.

http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87737

"Sorry about that but I'm fed up with arguing about completely subjective opinions and made my rankings 100% objective."

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by nunya
I'm certainly not questioning his superb stat keeping. It always impresses me. I simply wondered why, after so many huge wins (if they had been close, it would be different), that he left off Caldwell even out of the top 25. They're not Top 10 yet, but certainly top 25. They've scored more points in the state than anyone else so far in 3A. I do see now that he's added them at #23, which is improvement.:D

If it makes you feel better, I don't think I have them in my top 25 either.

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by nunya
I'm certainly not questioning his superb stat keeping. It always impresses me. I simply wondered why, after so many huge wins (if they had been close, it would be different), that he left off Caldwell even out of the top 25. They're not Top 10 yet, but certainly top 25. They've scored more points in the state than anyone else so far in 3A. I do see now that he's added them at #23, which is improvement.:D

I'll give you a chance right now to back away from this statement.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by LHPfactory
I wont call you a homer, but that list just looks crazy.....no offense( or defense for that matter). Im sure in the end i will be quoted if this pans out........ ;)

It would be kinda hard to call him a homer since he has WOS at 17.:D

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
I don't think the door hitting thing is in reference to Caldwell. :)

LOL!! I don't know what post made me think of the "Bow Down" reference!!!

[ProudHornetMom]

Originally posted by nunya
Yes, they've defended us but it took a head-to-head to even do that and if Caldwell doesn't meet some notable team iwhen it counts - the playoffs - we're back to Square One, so share that with your son.

Go Hornets!

Nunya, my son has nothing to do with this thread. Cheap shot.

[Bull19]

no bellville in ur rankings kepdawg? :smoker: :smoker:

[navscanmaster]

Originally posted by kepdawg
I'll give you a chance right now to back away from this statement.
Well, they have the scored more points than any team in 3A in the state that has played only six games.
:p

[nunya]

Originally posted by navscanmaster
Well, they have the scored more points than any team in 3A in the state that has played only six games.
:p

Don't even waste your time on that thing. He heard a comment about Caldwell being #1 in ANYthing and automatically assumed it had to be made up. That's what I mean about the lack of respect.

That's my observation and I stick to it, so we might as well change the subject.

:mad:

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by nunya
That's my observation and I stick to it, so we might as well change the subject.

:mad:

I agree cause you whining about it anymore certainly isn't going to gain you the respect you're asking for.

[nunya]

Originally posted by cshscougar08
I agree cause you whining about it anymore certainly isn't going to gain you the respect you're asking for.

Agreed. Just understand that I have little respect for your beloved Cougars because of your condescending attitude about most teams a thousands miles west of the Pecos just because your team played for a state title. It's truly amazing how a stint to a title game in a fairly easy bracket can expand heads as big as Dallas.

[jimmyceatworld]

Originally posted by nunya
Agreed. Just understand that I have little respect for your beloved Cougars because of your condescending attitude about most teams a thousands miles west of the Pecos just because your team played for a state title. It's truly amazing how a stint to a title game in a fairly easy bracket can expand heads as big as Dallas.

Fairly easy bracket? So what difficult brackets were there?

[nunya]

The other Division 2 bracket last year.

[jimmyceatworld]

Originally posted by nunya
The other Division 2 bracket last year.

You're right, La Vega and Cuero are pushovers.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by navscanmaster
You probably just wasted a lot of keystrokes on a lost cause. I thought nunya had cooled down a lot after the loss to Navasota, but it looks like it was only temporary.:confused:

I see what you mean


:rolleyes:


If I recall correctly the 2007 bracket referred to above had a couple of games played in back-to-back weeks that went something like this:

Kirbyville 49
Caldwell 28
FINAL

China Spring 35
Kirbyville 14
FINAL

So if China Spring played in that easy of a bracket you just totally put yourself down!

[nunya]

Originally posted by jimmyceatworld
You're right, La Vega and Cuero are pushovers.

Every bracket will have some good teams. Most people know that Cuero took China Spring for granted, and no team can survive under those circumstances.

Just ask Michigan.

[nunya]

Originally posted by WOS87
I see what you mean


:rolleyes:


If I recall correctly the 2007 bracket referred to above had a couple of games played in back-to-back weeks that went something like this:

Kirbyville 49
Caldwell 28
FINAL

China Spring 35
Kirbyville 14
FINAL

So if China Spring played in that easy of a bracket you just totally put yourself down!

China Spring beat Rockdale by 3
Caldwell beat Rockdale by 13

What's your point?

[WOS87]

Originally posted by nunya
China Spring beat Rockdale by 3
Caldwell beat Rockdale by 13

What's your point?

So we should discount your THIRTY point loss to Bellville this season because it happened early in the season yet it's okay to compare scores that occurred early in the season in 2007?!

I also recall that China Spring beat Rockdale 43-18 in Week 5 of 2007

Caldwell's win came in the very first week of the season


:confused: :confused: :confused:

[nunya]

Originally posted by WOS87
So we should discount your THIRTY point loss to Bellville this season because it happened early in the season yet it's okay to compare scores that occurred early in the season in 2007?!

I also recall that China Spring beat Rockdale 43-18 in Week 5 of 2007


:confused: :confused: :confused:

and Caldwell blasted Robinson 43-28

Games are always closer the second time around:

1991:
District: Fairfield 26, Groesbeck 7
Quarterfinals: Groesbeck 31, Fairfield 0

[jimmyceatworld]

Originally posted by WOS87
So we should discount your THIRTY point loss to Bellville this season because it happened early in the season yet it's okay to compare scores that occurred early in the season in 2007?!

I also recall that China Spring beat Rockdale 43-18 in Week 5 of 2007


:confused: :confused: :confused:

Put a stake in this argument. I don't see any way to refute it.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by nunya
and Caldwell blasted Robinson 43-28

In week 2


:confused: :confused: :confused:

I'm outta this sandbox dude... Call me a numbskull all you want.

[nunya]

Originally posted by WOS87
So we should discount your THIRTY point loss to Bellville this season because it happened early in the season yet it's okay to compare scores that occurred early in the season in 2007?!

I also recall that China Spring beat Rockdale 43-18 in Week 5 of 2007

Caldwell's win came in the very first week of the season


:confused: :confused: :confused:

and we only got better as the season went along.

[nunya]

Originally posted by WOS87
In week 2


:confused: :confused: :confused:

I'm outta this sandbox dude... Call me a numbskull all you want.

Uh, no, in Week 4

[Reds fan]

Originally posted by WOS87
In week 2


:confused: :confused: :confused:

I'm outta this sandbox dude... Call me a numbskull all you want.


:1popcorn:

[WOS87]

Originally posted by nunya
and Caldwell blasted Robinson 43-28

Games are always closer the second time around:

1991:
District: Fairfield 26, Groesbeck 7
Quarterfinals: Groesbeck 31, Fairfield 0

Ummm... you just contradicted your own argument...

2007:
Pre-district: China Spring 43, Rockdale 18
Bi-District: China Spring 30, Rockdale 27

So are you making excuses for China Spring now or trying to put them down??


:confused: :confused: :confused:

[nunya]

Originally posted by WOS87
Ummm... you just contradicted your own argument...

2007:
Pre-district: China Spring 43, Rockdale 18
Bi-District: China Spring 30, Rockdale 27

So are you making excuses for China Spring now or trying to put them down??


:confused: :confused: :confused:

Reread the post. The opposite team won the second time, meaning it was a 50-point shift.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by nunya
Reread the post. The opposite team won the second time, meaning it was a 50-point shift.

Yeah... but you also made a great case of how great of a team China Spring had last year in that they DIDN'T lose in the second game against Rockdale, but actually won by 3 points...

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by WOS87
So are you making excuses for China Spring now or trying to put them down??


:confused: :confused: :confused:
Dude, keep up here! The point he's trying to make is that you're insane for leaving Caldwell out of any rankings that are not based on you being subjective. :vrycnfsd: :vrycnfsd:

[nunya]

Originally posted by WOS87
Yeah... but you also made a great case of how great of a team China Spring had last year in that they DIDN'T lose in the second game against Rockdale, but actually won by 3 points...

THE TEAM THAT GOT NAILED THE FIRST TIME SHOWED IMPROVEMENT AND STYMIED CHINA SPRING THE SECOND. Enough already.

[nunya]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Dude, keep up here! The point he's trying to make is that you're insane for leaving Caldwell out of any rankings that are not based on you being subjective. :vrycnfsd: :vrycnfsd:

couldnt wait to chime in, could ya

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by jimmyceatworld
Seems more legitimate than Columbia at 22 LOL man, apparently you didn't see the ":D " right next to Columbia.



:rolleyes:

[WOS87]

Originally posted by nunya
THE TEAM THAT GOT NAILED THE FIRST TIME SHOWED IMPROVEMENT AND STYMIED CHINA SPRING THE SECOND. Enough already.

Yet that China Spring team managed to pull off the win... unlike the Fairfield team from 1991. I would thus conclude that you are saying that China Spring '07 was a superior team to Fairfield '91

[nunya]

Originally posted by WOS87
Yet that China Spring team managed to pull off the win... unlike the Fairfield team from 1991. I would thus conclude that you are saying that China Spring '07 was a superior team to Fairfield '91

if it'll make you regurgitate your crap sandwich, FIIIIIIIIIIINE

[WOS87]

Originally posted by nunya
if it'll make you regurgitate your crap sandwich, FIIIIIIIIIIINE

LOL

The sandbox is all yours!

Good luck on your "Plays well with others" grade when the Kindergarten report cards come out

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by WOS87
LOL

The sandbox is all yours!

Good luck on your "Plays well with others" grade when the Kindergarten report cards come out Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[nunya]

Originally posted by WOS87
LOL

The sandbox is all yours!

Good luck on your "Plays well with others" grade when the Kindergarten report cards come out

You implied you'd let it rest an hour ago... and you're still heeeeeeeeeeeeeeere.

[nunya]

Originally posted by Necks_Fan
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Someone's just angry coz WC bites this year

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by nunya
You implied you'd let it rest an hour ago... and you're still heeeeeeeeeeeeeeere. Everybody likes to argue with kids because they know they can win.


This is almost as good as Rocket vs. All of 3A.:1popcorn: :1popcorn:

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by nunya
Someone's just angry coz WC bites this year Nah man, it's all good.


I just like watching people duke it out. Quite entertaining actually. I try to stay away from punking HS teams though, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

[nunya]

Originally posted by Necks_Fan
Everybody likes to argue with kids because they know they can win.


This is almost as good as Rocket vs. All of 3A.:1popcorn: :1popcorn:

Redneck admiration society. What a concept

[jimmyceatworld]

Originally posted by Necks_Fan
LOL man, apparently you didn't see the ":D " right next to Columbia.



:rolleyes:

I saw it. But you still placed them at 22.

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by jimmyceatworld
I saw it. But you still placed them at 22. Let's be serious though. We know I was just kidding. FBB just had the most awful poll you have ever seen. Plain and simple.


:)

[jimmyceatworld]

Originally posted by Necks_Fan
Let's be serious though. We know I was just kidding. FBB just had the most awful poll you have ever seen. Plain and simple.


:)

The thing is that even though you were joking your picks still counted.

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by jimmyceatworld
The thing is that even though you were joking your picks still counted. As did his.


it's not that awful for Wc to get an honorable mention.


They did beat St. Pius, who beat Sealy....

And they lost to the #17 4A team El Campo by a grand total of 2 points. Nearly won that game on a last second field goal.

Granted, their other games have not went well.... but still... man I gotta throw em in otherwise I will get banished form my school. :D

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by Necks_Fan
As did his.


it's not that awful for Wc to get an honorable mention.


They did beat St. Pius, who beat Sealy....

And they lost to the #17 4A team El Campo by a grand total of 2 points. Nearly won that game on a last second field goal.

Granted, their other games have not went well.... but still... man I gotta throw em in otherwise I will get banished form my school. :D Easy Neck, using that who you lost to by how little you lost is starting to sound like nunya. Don't let it rub off on you.:devil:

[nunya]

Originally posted by DaHop72
Easy Neck, using that who you lost to by how little you lost is starting to sound like nunya. Don't let it rub off on you.:devil:

Drop dead

[I_DONT_CARE]

Originally posted by nunya
Drop dead

AT LEAST MY BITTERNESS IS ALL INTERNET SPEAK. I THINK YOU ARE 'DROP DEAD' SERIOUS!

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by nunya
Drop dead Grow up. It's amazing that when someone else uses your logic it's stupid or wrong. When you use it, you are hedging on being a rocket scientist or a Nobel Prize winner. :hand: :hand:

[nunya]

Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
AT LEAST MY BITTERNESS IS ALL INTERNET SPEAK. I THINK YOU ARE 'DROP DEAD' SERIOUS!

Make no mistake.

I

AM

[nunya]

Originally posted by DaHop72
Grow up. It's amazing that when someone else uses your logic it's stupid or wrong. When you use it, you are hedging on being a rocket scientist or a Nobel Prize winner. :hand: :hand:

That coming from someone with a "Bite Me" signature? Oooooo-kay

[trojan37]

Hey, is this the same guy who wanted everyone's opinion on some other thread and then got pissed about everything they said? This guy kills me.:crazy1:

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by nunya
That coming from someone with a "Bite Me" signature? Oooooo-kay

Well actually....it's an avatar!!

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by nunya
That coming from someone with a "Bite Me" signature? Oooooo-kay That's okay nunya, it wasn't put there for you but if the shoe fits I guess you can wear it. But since it wasn't put there for you I wouldn't expect you to understand. Bet you are more fun than a barrel of monkeys at a meet and greet. :rolleyes:

[Necks_Fan]

Originally posted by DaHop72
Easy Neck, using that who you lost to by how little you lost is starting to sound like nunya. Don't let it rub off on you.:devil: Sorry hop....;)

Just pointing out that we hung with a good squad.


I would never hear the end of it if I didn;t include us... even if we went 0-10. :D

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by trojan37
Hey, is this the same guy who wanted everyone's opinion on some other thread and then got pissed about everything they said? This guy kills me.:crazy1: He would be the one trojan.

[nunya]

Originally posted by trojan37
Hey, is this the same guy who wanted everyone's opinion on some other thread and then got pissed about everything they said? This guy kills me.:crazy1:

Caldwell was named Kolache Capital.
Chaps your hide, don't it?

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by nunya
Don't even waste your time on that thing. He heard a comment about Caldwell being #1 in ANYthing and automatically assumed it had to be made up. That's what I mean about the lack of respect.

That's my observation and I stick to it, so we might as well change the subject.

:mad:

You don't have a clue what you are talking about! But I guess that means you still don't want to back away from that statement? I'll still let you!

[trojan37]

Originally posted by nunya
Caldwell was named Kolache Capital.
Chaps your hide, don't it?

:confused:

[cshscougar08]

Originally posted by nunya
Agreed. Just understand that I have little respect for your beloved Cougars because of your condescending attitude about most teams a thousands miles west of the Pecos just because your team played for a state title. It's truly amazing how a stint to a title game in a fairly easy bracket can expand heads as big as Dallas.

Just YOU understand that I don't give a darn if you like us or respect us or not. The people with some manner of intelligence do and that's good enough for me. I don't care if other posters on here write us off. I'm used to that. We weren't supposed to get past the second round last year according to everyone. You saw how THAT turned out.

[slpybear the bullfan]

Originally posted by DaHop72
That's okay nunya... ...Bet you are more fun than a barrel of monkeys at a meet and greet. :rolleyes:

You know... I have no dog in this fight... but after reading a lot of posts...

you are correct, DaHop72.

[Pudlugger]

Please edit my top 25 post and replace #12 La Vega(listed twice) with Monahans.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Pudlugger
Please edit my top 25 post and replace #12 La Vega(listed twice) with Monahans.
I'm confused. :confused: :confused: :confused:


Originally posted by Pudlugger
1. Liberty Hill
2. Bellville
3. Navasota
4. West Orange-Stark
5. China Spring
6. Bridgeport
7. Cuero
8. Celina
9. La Vega
10. Giddings
11. Caldwell
12. Prosper
13. La Vernia
14. Gilmer
15. Texarkana Pleasant Grove
16. Tyler Chapel Hill
17. La Grange
18. Cameron
19. Brownwood
20. Monahans
21. Rockdale
22. Sweetwater
23. Columbus
24. Kennedale
25. Abilene Wylie

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
I'm confused. :confused: :confused: :confused:

I can see why

[navscanmaster]

This is funny, but a little unnerving. Did nunya really tell someone to drop dead on a friendly, pg-rated, high school football message board? Good golly.:doh: :dispntd:

[ProudHornetMom]

:1omg!: :helpme:

[Bull's-eye]

Buckeye80, you have Prosper at #8, BurkBurnett #14 and Bridgeport #15. Did you know Bridgeport defeated BurkBurnett 31-15 & Prosper 37-31?

Bandera7, you listed Brigeport twice at #8 & #12.

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by Bull's-eye
Buckeye80, you have Prosper at #8, BurkBurnett #14 and Bridgeport #15. Did you know Bridgeport defeated BurkBurnett 31-15 & Prosper 37-31?

Bandera7, you listed Brigeport twice at #8 & #12.

I did not. But "any given day, anybody can beat anybody" will be my argument in this case just to keep from having to go back and change my top 25.:D

[Bull's-eye]

I was thinking I should of placed Bridgeport higher, but when the top teams keep winning, I don't feel good about replacing them. Some of those higher teams have had some close calls, but does that mean they lose their spot? Liberty Hill had a few close games, but I'll keep them #1 until somebody can knock them off. Actually, I could argue that any of my top 7 teams deserves the top spot.

[Buckeye80]

I always find it difficult to discuss these polls with anyone outside of Reg II or III. I of course know more about my area of the state, and vice versa.
I really feel like the top six or seven in these polls is the only area where absences and poll position is argument-worthy anyway. Outside of number eight or so, it's all based on opinion and name-recognition.

[garciap77]

Originally posted by WOS87
If any of you have a problem with how I voted, argue with the numbers.... NOT ME

Click here ---> LINK (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88092)

1. Gilmer
2. Bridgeport
3. Prosper
4. Carthage
5. Burkburnett
6. Argyle
7. Pleasant Grove
8. West Orange-Stark
9. Waco La Vega
10. China Spring
11. Navasota
12. Bellville
13. Diboll
14. Abilene Wylie
15. Celina
16. Cuero
17. Sweetwater
18. Liberty Hill
19. Tyler Chapel Hill
20. Monahans
21. Liberty-Eylau
22. Caldwell ----> (I don't want to hear a word from you nunya!)
23. Giddings
24. Snyder
25. La Vernia



:2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup

[nunya]

Originally posted by WOS87
If any of you have a problem with how I voted, argue with the numbers.... NOT ME

Click here ---> LINK (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88092)

1. Gilmer
2. Bridgeport
3. Prosper
4. Carthage
5. Burkburnett
6. Argyle
7. Pleasant Grove
8. West Orange-Stark
9. Waco La Vega
10. China Spring
11. Navasota
12. Bellville
13. Diboll
14. Abilene Wylie
15. Celina
16. Cuero
17. Sweetwater
18. Liberty Hill
19. Tyler Chapel Hill
20. Monahans
21. Liberty-Eylau
22. Caldwell ----> (I don't want to hear a word from you nunya!)
23. Giddings
24. Snyder
25. La Vernia

From years in sportswriting and serving on the Associated Press high school football poll board, I know more about Texas football than you do, so don't be ordering me around, buster.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by nunya
From years in sportswriting and serving on the Associated Press high school football poll board, I know more about Texas football than you do, so don't be ordering me around, buster.

I beg to differ! I'm taking it you are voting exactly as I did since you quoted my post??

And from years of both medical school and graduate school I know more about your psychopathology than you do, so don't be mouthing off to me or I'll have you committed!

(go ahead and move this to the discussion thread as I know it will be)

[JR2004]

Originally posted by WOS87
I beg to differ! I'm taking it you are voting exactly as I did since you quoted my post??

And from years of both medical school and graduate school I know more about your psychopathology than you do, so don't be mouthing off to me or I'll have you committed!

(go ahead and move this to the discussion thread as I know it will be)

You brought the Thunder!

[sinton66]

and a mod brought the lightning.;)

[JR2004]

Originally posted by sinton66
and a mod brought the lightning.;)

Apparently!