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BuffyMars
04-07-2008, 12:47 PM
An Australian father and his adult daughter whose sexual relationship has rocked the island nation revealed Sunday night on national TV that they had an apparently healthy child together after first losing a baby to congenital heart disease.

John Earnest Deaves and his daughter Jennifer Anne Deaves are at the center of an incest scandal in South Australia over their seven-year relationship.

The pair revealed their relationship on Australia's "60 Minutes" Sunday night, saying they were just asking for some respect and understanding.

In March this year, they were placed on three-year good behavior bonds after pleading guilty to two counts of incest.

District Court Sentencing Judge Steven Millsteed said the first count of incest was based on an act of sexual intercourse which resulted in the birth of the couple's first child.

The second count of incest related to an act of sexual intercourse which resulted in the birth of their second child in May last year.

"The first child was born in 2001 but died a few days after birth due to a congenital heart disease," Millsteed said.

The couple had begun a relationship after being reunited in 2000, almost 30 years after Deaves separated from Jenny's mother.

Because of problems with her own marriage, Jennifer Anne Deaves had gone to live with her father at Yongala, in South Australia.

Their physical relationship developed later that year and both ended their marriages and began living together.

"Each of you say that the other has provided care and affection that was missing in your marriage," Millsteed said.

"You also say that although you are father and daughter, that you were virtually strangers when your relationship commenced and that the relationship was based on mutual love and respect."

The couple had their first child while living in Rockhampton, Queensland, before moving to Port Pirie, in South Australia.

After the birth of their second child they moved to Bordertown, near the Victorian border where the Department of Families and Communities became aware of their relationship and turned the matter over to police.

Millsteed said that when contacted by police, the Deaves made full admissions.

He said both Jenny and John Deaves told him that they accepted their sexual relationship must end but hoped they would be able to continue to support one another and the children.

But he said while the case was not typical he had to impose a sentence that impressed upon them that any resumption of their incestuous relationship was unacceptable.

"The offense of incest exists not merely to protect children from sexual abuse," Millsteed said.

"In my view, other relevant factors include the need to prevent the high risk of congenital defects in children born of incestuous relationships and to prevent children suffering psychological harm and social stigmatization."

Revealing their relationship on "60 Minutes" last night, the Deaves said they were just asking for some respect and understanding.

Deaves admitted that he "initially" thought having sex with his daughter was wrong.

"Emotions take over, as people no doubt realize. There are times during your life where emotions do rule the heart, it rules the head," he said.

"I knew it was illegal. Of course, I knew it was illegal but you know, so what."

Maroon87
04-07-2008, 12:49 PM
For maybe the first time ever, I'm speechless.:confused:

nobogey72
04-07-2008, 12:55 PM
Buffy-- Was the title of your thread an intended pun? If so, good one. :clap: :clap:

BuffyMars
04-07-2008, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by nobogey72
Buffy-- Was the title of your thread an intended pun? If so, good one. :clap: :clap:

i seriously wish this was a joke. :dispntd:

eppy 12
04-07-2008, 01:02 PM
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l239/eppy12/vomit.gif

nobogey72
04-07-2008, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by BuffyMars
i seriously wish this was a joke. :dispntd:

I know!! There is lots of bad out there. Sometimes you just have to laugh to keep from crying.

BuffyMars
04-07-2008, 01:09 PM
here is offical link

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,347368,00.html

Texas_Fight_05
04-08-2008, 01:27 PM
It's hard to stomach the fact that there are actually people like this in the world... and to think his response to all this was "I knew it was illegal but you know, so what." makes me want to vomit.

Phil C
04-08-2008, 01:31 PM
It just isn't natural. :(:eek:

Phil C
04-08-2008, 01:32 PM
IT'S ALSO NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT!!!

:mad:

CenTexSports
04-08-2008, 01:46 PM
Unnatural and wierd.

BUT:

Which is worse?

1) A 50 year old and a thirty year old father and daughter having sex in the nether reaches of Australia .

or

2) A bunch of 50 year old men having sex with 13 year olds in El Dorado, Texas.

crzyjournalist03
04-08-2008, 01:50 PM
Why does there have to be worse? Can't they just both be horrible???

pirate4state
04-08-2008, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
Why does there have to be worse? Can't they just both be horrible???

ITA. They are both despicable!

Ranger Mom
04-08-2008, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
Why does there have to be worse? Can't they just both be horrible???

They are both horrible, but the 2nd one bothers me way worse!!

eppy 12
04-08-2008, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by CenTexSports
Unnatural and wierd.

BUT:

Which is worse?

1) A 50 year old and a thirty year old father and daughter having sex in the nether reaches of Australia .

or

2) A bunch of 50 year old men having sex with 13 year olds in El Dorado, Texas. EQUAL SIGNIFICANCE IMO. but my disclaimer is that THIS WAS NOT A POLITICAL STATEMENT.:hand:

Ranger Mom
04-08-2008, 01:53 PM
From what I hear, the youngest "mother" is only 11 years old!!:dispntd:

CenTexSports
04-08-2008, 02:00 PM
The second one bothers me much more.

50 year old men SHOULD be having sex with 30 year old women: just not their daughters or their wives!

STANG RED
04-08-2008, 02:25 PM
I wonder how much of this sort of thing has always gone on, but now we just hear about everything because information is everywhere? Has the world really gotten worse in recent years, or has it always been this bad?:confused:

Ranger Mom
04-08-2008, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by STANG RED
I wonder how much of this sort of thing has always gone on, but now we just hear about everything because information is everywhere? Has the world really gotten worse in recent years, or has it always been this bad?:confused:

I think we are desensitized somewhat to it these days.....but I do think it's worse than it has been in years past.

I'm sure there has always been polygamy.....but the biggest change (for the worse) that I notice is the outright disrespect of our youth!!

zebrablue2
04-08-2008, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by Maroon87
For maybe the first time ever, I'm speechless.:confused:


ditto....

CenTexSports
04-08-2008, 02:37 PM
I personally believe that very little has changed for hundreds if not thousands of years but that there are billions more people than ever before and a hugh reporting structure (TV and internet) that lets us know about it. People have always been weird since the beginning of man.

Txbroadcaster
04-08-2008, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by CenTexSports
I personally believe that very little has changed for hundreds if not thousands of years but that there are billions more people than ever before and a hugh reporting structure (TV and internet) that lets us know about it. People have always been weird since the beginning of man.

I agree 100%..In fact morally we may be better..Used to be no big deal if a 14 year old girl was married..My Great Uncle married his wife when she was 14..he was 20..They were married right up until her death in 2003..Now days he would have been in jail lol

Every generation swears theirs is the one causing the downfall of society, morals and such, but from the first caveman till now we have had the same thoughts, desires and so on..Just now we have the 24 hour news on TV, and online that is ALWAYS trying to fill it's content so they reach further and further for more news

Just like the whole Matt Leinart deal last week..why was it such a big deal? It is off-season, he is young and rich, who could blame him if he has the ability to bring multiple women to his parties and have fun.

And dont give me the they were under 21, cause unless they were 18 and below IMO it is no big deal...What they were doing in the pics is done NIGHTLY across College campuses.

I_DONT_CARE
04-08-2008, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
What they were doing in the pics is done NIGHTLY across College campuses.
JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENS, DOESN'T MAKE IT LEGAL OR RIGHT. :rolleyes:

Txbroadcaster
04-08-2008, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENS, DOESN'T MAKE IT LEGAL OR RIGHT. :rolleyes:


Did not say it did..but Matt Leinart should not be treated as some terrible person either

I_DONT_CARE
04-08-2008, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Did not say it did..but Matt Leinart should not be treated as some terrible person either
WHO SAID HE WAS A TERRIBLE PERSON? OH YEAH, I REMEMBER. THE BUFFY PERSON CALLED HIM A DOUCHEBAG. :rolleyes:

Txbroadcaster
04-08-2008, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
WHO SAID HE WAS A TERRIBLE PERSON? OH YEAH, I REMEMBER. THE BUFFY PERSON CALLED HIM A DOUCHEBAG. :rolleyes:

Not because of this incident...She just does not like him

pirate4state
04-08-2008, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Did not say it did..but Matt Leinart should not be treated as some terrible person either Poor little Mattie Leinart :bigcry:

Txbroadcaster
04-08-2008, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by pirate4state
Poor little Mattie Leinart :bigcry:

Was not saying it to defend him as a person, but showing how the media covers it all now

Mickey Mantle, Joe Namath, Wilt Chamberlin, babe Ruth among others were ALL big time partiers(sp?), but the media kept it under wraps, NOW the media will make something big out of something small

another example is the Tony Romo Mexico trip


At one time the media and the fans thought the players could do no wrong, now it seems the media goes out of its way to find fault with any star

pirate4state
04-08-2008, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Was not saying it to defend him as a person, but showing how the media covers it all now

Mickey Mantle, Joe Namath, Wilt Chamberlin, babe Ruth among others were ALL big time partiers(sp?), but the media kept it under wraps, NOW the media will make something big out of something small

another example is the Tony Romo Mexico trip

Yes, we know, we know...you remind us every other week or so! :p

I_DONT_CARE
04-09-2008, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Not because of this incident...She just does not like him
OH, OKAY! I GUESS IT'S OKAY TO BE A DOUCHEBAG IN GENERAL, BUT NOT FOR SERVING ALCOHOL TO MINORS. THANKS SO LITTLE FOR SETTING ME STRAIGHT. :rolleyes:

BuffyMars
04-09-2008, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
OH, OKAY! I GUESS IT'S OKAY TO BE A DOUCHEBAG IN GENERAL, BUT NOT FOR SERVING ALCOHOL TO MINORS. THANKS SO LITTLE FOR SETTING ME STRAIGHT. :rolleyes:

just for the record, i think he is a douchebag because of how he acted after losing to Texas, and also how much of an idiot he acted during the nfl draft because he barely made the top 10.

you should probably changed your name to "I DON'T CARE BUT HERE IS MY OPINION ANYWAY".