Marlin has a Man child in 8th Grade, here is his stats....

[Fotbol]

Birthdate:Feb 24, 1993 (15)
Height: 6-3
Weght: 211
BenchPress: 150LBS. 22 times
40 Time: 4.49
Verticle Jump: 39 inches
shutlle run: 4.6
Position in 8th Grade: RB/SS
Just got invite to the Nike Camp in Houston, Texas
I coached this kid in two Pop Warner Superbowl Games, once saw him knocked a kid out...Literally
:eek:

[Fotbol]

J.J Stewart is the Name!

[icu812]

If that 40 time is correct that is impressive for an 8th grader.

I saw an 8th grade basketball team at a primetime tourney a couple months back that had a kid that was 6'7" and one that was 6'5". Neither was skinny.

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Expect his times to go down drastically when he goes to that camp...

[kaorder1999]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Expect his times to go down drastically when he goes to that camp...

maybe all the stats will go down....

[ronwx5x]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Expect his times to go down drastically when he goes to that camp...

Is that when he gets recruited to Celina?

[Crow22]

Originally posted by Fotbol
Birthdate:Feb 24, 1993 (15)
Height: 6-3
Weght: 211
BenchPress: 150LBS. 22 times
40 Time: 4.49
Verticle Jump: 39 inches
shutlle run: 4.6
Position in 8th Grade: RB/SS
Just got invite to the Nike Camp in Houston, Texas
I coached this kid in two Pop Warner Superbowl Games, once saw him knocked a kid out...Literally
:eek:

So he's 15 in the 8th grade? Looks like academics might not be first on his priority list.

[icu812]

Originally posted by Crow22
So he's 15 in the 8th grade? Looks like academics might not be first on his priority list.

Lots of kids get held back before they even start school. Its not unusual for kids to be 15 in the 8th grade. I know several and I believe it gives them an edge academically, athletically and emotionally.

[gatordaze]

4.49 is smoking at 200+ lbs. He really is barely 15 so that is about right for a kid that maybe was "red shirted"

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by Crow22
So he's 15 in the 8th grade? Looks like academics might not be first on his priority list.

I was 15 as a sophomore!

[nobogey72]

Originally posted by Fotbol
Birthdate:Feb 24, 1993 (15)
Height: 6-3
Weght: 211
BenchPress: 150LBS. 22 times
40 Time: 4.49
Verticle Jump: 39 inches
shutlle run: 4.6
Position in 8th Grade: RB/SS
Just got invite to the Nike Camp in Houston, Texas
I coached this kid in two Pop Warner Superbowl Games, once saw him knocked a kid out...Literally
:eek:

These stats are, what I would call, nice. Not phenominal but with the proper training and diet and coach he could possibly start for the Celina JV's his Junior year.;) ;) :D

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by nobogey72
These stats are, what I would call, nice. Not phenominal but with the proper training and diet and coach he could possibly start for the Celina JV's his Junior year.;) ;) :D

I don't know, their towel boy has been looking strong as of late. Look for him to be the biggest contender for a starting spot.

[Bull19]

Originally posted by kepdawg
I was 15 as a sophomore!


i think 98% of all students are soph. when they are 15.

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by Crow22
So he's 15 in the 8th grade? Looks like academics might not be first on his priority list.
I turned 15 in Oct of my 8 th Grade year, Never been held back, and never failed, didn't have a problem with grades, thanks to Aldine ISD, before the move to the Big MISD!

[Crow22]

Originally posted by Bull19
i think 98% of all students are soph. when they are 15.

I was the oldest in my class (sept 3rd b-day) and I was 15 as a soph too.

15 in the 8th grade (in Marlin) was probably not "held back" before he started school. Just a hunch.

[Bull19]

Originally posted by Crow22


15 in the 8th grade (in Marlin) was probably not "held back" before he started school. Just a hunch.


i think you just said what all of us are thinking.

[Ranger Mom]

My daughter graduated High School at 16!!!!!

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Bull19
i think 98% of all students are soph. when they are 15. I think you're thinking of freshmen.

[Crow22]

Originally posted by Fotbol
I turned 15 in Oct of my 8 th Grade year, Never been held back, and never failed, didn't have a problem with grades, thanks to Aldine ISD, before the move to the Big MISD!

If you turned 15 in Oct of your 8th grade year then you graduated at 20.

Oct 8th grade - 15
Oct 9th grade - 16
Oct 10th grade - 17
Oct 11th grade - 18
Oct 12th grade - 19
May of 12th grade year - 20

????????

[Fotbol]

As I was, I was 14 in the 8th, and According to Sandra Stewart, J J turned 14 this Feb. MY Bad, the source I talked to said he was born FEB 24, 1983, wouldn't that make him 15? Mother's says he was born in 1984, MY BAD....

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Crow22
If you turned 15 in Oct of your 8th grade year then you graduated at 20.

Oct 8th grade - 15
Oct 9th grade - 16
Oct 10th grade - 17
Oct 11th grade - 18
Oct 12th grade - 19
May of 12th grade year - 20

????????

Graduated 19 then turned 20 the year of the graduation.

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by Go Blue
I think you're thinking of freshmen. No I was still 15 during the summer after my sophmore year. Almost everyone starts 10th grade as 15. This kid should just be a freshman maybe if he didnt get held back Marlin could of beat Centerville this year.

[Crow22]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Graduated 19 then turned 20 the year of the graduation.

You're right. You wouldn't have turned 20 till the next October. Still though, how did that happen?? No way you were 19 in Oct of your senior year without some sort of being held back.

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by Go Blue
I think you're thinking of freshmen.

U R right, It's been so long since my Frosh year, I was 14 Oct of 83-84

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
No I was still 15 during the summer after my sophmore year. Almost everyone starts 10th grade as 15. This kid should just be a freshman maybe if he didnt get held back Marlin could of beat Centerville this year. Majority of kids I know get their license when they were sophomores. I turned 16 at the beginning of my soph. year.

[Bull19]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
No I was still 15 during the summer after my sophmore year. Almost everyone starts 10th grade as 15. This kid should just be a freshman maybe if he didnt get held back Marlin could of beat Centerville this year.

thats my point. going into your soph. year. most everyone is 15 years old.

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
No I was still 15 during the summer after my sophmore year. Almost everyone starts 10th grade as 15. This kid should just be a freshman maybe if he didnt get held back Marlin could of beat Centerville this year.
Couldn't have beaten Centerville, with home field advantage, and leading with 8 seconds left, and a questionable pass interference call. Naw, J J wouldn't have helped!, but Connally has a Junior coming back from this year's squad in hoops, so I guess Fairfield will be home again next year.

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by nobogey72
These stats are, what I would call, nice. Not phenominal but with the proper training and diet and coach he could possibly start for the Celina JV's his Junior year.;) ;) :D
Can't C this kid in Orange, dosen't look good with Height!

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Fotbol
As I was, I was 14 in the 8th, and According to Sandra Stewart, J J turned 14 this Feb. MY Bad, the source I talked to said he was born FEB 24, 1983, wouldn't that make him 15? Mother's says he was born in 1984, MY BAD....
1983 would make him 25. :eek: :eek: No wonder he has good stats! :D

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
1983 would make him 25. :eek: :eek: No wonder he has good stats! :D

ROFL!!! He isn't a "man-child"...he IS a man!!!:p

[nobogey72]

I think the UIL rule for participation as it relates to age is that you cannot be 19 on the first day of school to participate that year. :thinking:

[ToroChingon]

I heard he was transferring to Celina!

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by nobogey72
I think the UIL rule for participation as it relates to age is that you cannot be 19 on the first day of school to participate that year. :thinking:
That rule must be Texas only, because I know those kids down south are 20 plus playing football, even as close as Louisiana!

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by nobogey72
I think the UIL rule for participation as it relates to age is that you cannot be 19 on the first day of school to participate that year. :thinking:
September 1 is the cutoff date.

Eligibility (http://www.uil.utexas.edu/policy/eligibility.html)

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
1983 would make him 25. :eek: :eek: No wonder he has good stats! :D I'm thinking of my freshman year now, I mean 1993, Glad to see this board crank up on my bad birthdates!:D

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
ROFL!!! He isn't a "man-child"...he IS a man!!!:p
U killing me :D

[CenTexSports]

Just for comparison; This is from the Mississippi HS Activities Association (MISSHSAA).

Any pupil who becomes 19 years of age prior to August 1 shall be ineligible for interschool competition. A FINE OF $1000 WILL
BE ASSESSED ANY SCHOOL THAT PLAYS A STUDENT TOO OLD.

I bet it is the same in most if not all states.

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by CenTexSports
Just for comparison; This is from the Mississippi HS Activities Association (MISSHSAA).

Any pupil who becomes 19 years of age prior to August 1 shall be ineligible for interschool competition. A FINE OF $1000 WILL
BE ASSESSED ANY SCHOOL THAT PLAYS A STUDENT TOO OLD.

I bet it is the same in most if not all states.
That rule must have not been implemented back in 1989-92?

[I_DONT_CARE]

ARE THESE LEGITIMATE STATS? :rolleyes:

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
ARE THESE LEGITIMATE STATS? :rolleyes:

What do you care???

I have been wanting to be the first to ask that question!!:D :D

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
ARE THESE LEGITIMATE STATS? :rolleyes: I guess we'll see when he goes to the Nike camp....:rolleyes:

[I_DONT_CARE]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
What do you care???

I have been wanting to be the first to ask that question!!:D :D
HELLO RANGER MOTHER. DID YOU MISS ME?


JUST BECAUSE I ASK A QUESTION DOESN'T MEAN I CARE. SOMETIMES I'M CURIOUS. AND SOMETIMES I ACTUALLY JUST TRY TO START STUFF. :eek: :rolleyes:

[nobogey72]

Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
ARE THESE LEGITIMATE STATS? :rolleyes:

Is that a yes or no question? If someone said yes, or if someone said no, how would either answer affect you? BTW-- Have you consulted a Dr. for your condition and/or tried medication? I don't really care, I'm just curious. :thinking:

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
HELLO RANGER MOTHER. DID YOU MISS ME?


JUST BECAUSE I ASK A QUESTION DOESN'T MEAN I CARE. SOMETIMES I'M CURIOUS. AND SOMETIMES I ACTUALLY JUST TRY TO START STUFF. :eek: :rolleyes:

Miss you?? Were you gone?

:confused:

[I_DONT_CARE]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Miss you?? Were you gone?

:confused:
YES. IF I CARED, I MIGHT SAY THAT I WAS SADDENED THAT YOU DID NOT NOTICE. SINCE I DON'T, I WILL JUST SAY THAT LH PANTHER MOTHER DID NOT LIKE THE NAME I CALLED SOMEONE THE OTHER DAY. :rolleyes:

[I_DONT_CARE]

Originally posted by nobogey72
BTW-- Have you consulted a Dr. for your condition and/or tried medication? I don't really care, I'm just curious. :thinking:
YES I HAVE AND THANK YOU FOR ASKING! THE MEDICINE HELPS A LOT WHEN I REMEMBER TO TAKE IT. BEFORE I GOT THE PRESCRIPTION, I WAS VERY NEGATIVE AND COULD BE QUITE ANNOYING AT TIMES.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
YES I HAVE AND THANK YOU FOR ASKING! THE MEDICINE HELPS A LOT WHEN I REMEMBER TO TAKE IT. BEFORE I GOT THE PRESCRIPTION, I WAS VERY NEGATIVE AND COULD BE QUITE ANNOYING AT TIMES.

Please don't take this the wrong way, because I am just curious.....are you bi-polar??

[I_DONT_CARE]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Please don't take this the wrong way, because I am just curious.....are you bi-polar??
:( I WOULD RATHER NOT SAY.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
:(

Uh oh!!

If you were I had some questions for you.....but nevermind!!:blush:

[I_DONT_CARE]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Uh oh!!

If you were I had some questions for you.....but nevermind!!:blush:
I WILL SEND YOU A PRIVATE MESSAGE.

[nobogey72]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Please don't take this the wrong way, because I am just curious.....are you bi-polar??

My best guess:

bi-polar------ yes
bi-sexual---- probably not....................yet:doh: :D

[injuredinmelee]

Originally posted by Crow22
So he's 15 in the 8th grade? Looks like academics might not be first on his priority list.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[nobogey72]

To RM and IDC

If either of you were being serious in these last few posts, I apologize. I assumed that if you were serious you would be doing the PM thing. Sorry. I wouldn't make light of something serious in nature.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by nobogey72
To RM and IDC

If either of you were being serious in these last few posts, I apologize. I assumed that if you were serious you would be doing the PM thing. Sorry. I wouldn't make light of something serious in nature.

I just want to go on record saying that I was kidding....I would never want to make light of someone who has some kind of mental disorder!!!

He just cracks me up sometimes how he can be so sarcastic and then come right back and say something almost nice!

[Necks_Fan]

Well since they said he was 14 in 8th grade, that makes perfect sense because I am 17 in 11th grade so he's right on line because I have never been held back.

[bandera7]

I agree with Gary here, those will drop when he has some people timing him that dont want those times to happen. When there is a more realistic watch, he will probably experience a huge drop in time. Still, thats pretty awesome, even if it drops to a 4.7. At over 200 lbs, thats amazing for an eighth grader. I know that in Bandera we have an eighth grader that at around 5'10 can slam a basketball all sorts of crazy. Not sure on his bench and such but he is a good athlete.

[trojan37]

Sounds like they need to start testing these kids for roids!:D

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by kepdawg
I was 15 as a sophomore!

i was sixteen for the first two months of my senior year!

:eek:

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Please don't take this the wrong way, because I am just curious.....are you bi-polar??
Hey! I resemble that remark:D :( :rolleyes:

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
ARE THESE LEGITIMATE STATS? :rolleyes:
Yep, Just remember the name J. J. Stewart

[I_DONT_CARE]

Originally posted by Fotbol
Yep, Just remember the name J. J. Stewart
OKAY, I WILL DO JUST THAT. NOW WHEN IS THIS NIKE CAMP (LIC) AND WHERE CAN WE GO TO SEE THE RESULTS?

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by Crow22
I was the oldest in my class (sept 3rd b-day) and I was 15 as a soph too.

15 in the 8th grade (in Marlin) was probably not "held back" before he started school. Just a hunch.
Never heard of Marlin having 19 year old students playing Football, or Basketball, so where are you getting your Info?:rolleyes:

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Graduated 19 then turned 20 the year of the graduation.
When I turned 19, I was in the Persian Gulf, not Graduation, at 20 I was stationed on board the USS MacDonough DDG-39 Charleston South Carolina. So My Bad, I'm getting Old, the mind is too.:D

[Crow22]

Bottom line is, 4.49 hand held by a jr high coach will turn into AT LEAST a 4.65 if not 4.7 on an accutrack timer.

People think 4.49 is actually something that happens a lot. It doesn't. Look at the NFL combine. There aren't all that many running backs running in the 4.4s. Don't give me that crap about an 8th grader (even if he IS old enough to have grandchildren) running a legit 4.49.

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by Crow22
Bottom line is, 4.49 hand held by a jr high coach will turn into AT LEAST a 4.65 if not 4.7 on an accutrack timer.

People think 4.49 is actually something that happens a lot. It doesn't. Look at the NFL combine. There aren't all that many running backs running in the 4.4s. Don't give me that crap about an 8th grader (even if he IS old enough to have grandchildren) running a legit 4.49. He was a a Camp in Dallas, ran bye college coaches, not junior high!

[Silverback 04]

Originally posted by Crow22
Bottom line is, 4.49 hand held by a jr high coach will turn into AT LEAST a 4.65 if not 4.7 on an accutrack timer.

People think 4.49 is actually something that happens a lot. It doesn't. Look at the NFL combine. There aren't all that many running backs running in the 4.4s. Don't give me that crap about an 8th grader (even if he IS old enough to have grandchildren) running a legit 4.49.


You are correct. I recently had this rgument on the Old Coaches board. Out of 400 + players at the NFL combine only 98 ran a time less than 4.59. My brother is a coach at a D1 school and out of 85 scholarship players he has only 17 that run 4.59 or better. And this is at a school that is well know for their speed. All that said, it wouldn't be impossible for an 8th grader to run that fast, just rare. Especially if he was carrying a grandchild!

[Crow22]

Originally posted by Fotbol
He was a a Camp in Dallas, ran bye college coaches, not junior high!

Ok, we'll see.

Make sure and post his Nike times.

[Dogman_1969]

Originally posted by Go Blue
I think you're thinking of freshmen.

My son just turned 16 yrs old and is a Sophomore and started at OLB and WR in the playoff game this past year. Imagine him playing on thursday night as a eighth grader or a freshman. That is what I think of.....

[themsu97]

my daughter turned 13 today and is in 7th grade...

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by Dogman_1969
My son just turned 16 yrs old and is a Sophomore and started at OLB and WR in the playoff game this past year. Imagine him playing on thursday night as a eighth grader or a freshman. That is what I think of.....


And that young man has a bright future. :)

His class will do good things.

[Old Tiger]

This really doesn't surprise me that a kid from Marlin is that big and that fast. They put out those kind of athletes out quite often.

D'narian Wrighter
Denario Alexander
Jeremy Sanders
Red Richardson
Tank

To name a few.

[zebrablue2]

Originally posted by nobogey72
These stats are, what I would call, nice. Not phenominal but with the proper training and diet and coach he could possibly start for the Celina JV's his Junior year.;) ;) :D


LOL...

[bandera7]

I gotta say, I was surprised also at the kids I heard were so "fast" at the state seven on seven tournament. Alot of the guys were out running 40's against Reggie Bush's time, it was electronically timed. They had lights going to show where he would be or something along those lines. Most kids could not break 4.6. I have to take this opportunity to brag on one of my teammates here. Franklin Brown from Bandera ran a 4.45 (if I remember correctly) three times and was by far the fastest time there. He did it once in socks on a grass surface too. There were kids bragging about their 4.4 times that couldnt get past 4.7. It was really a funny sight.

[District303aPastPlayer]

Originally posted by kepdawg
I was 15 as a sophomore!

15 starting my Jr Year...

[UPanIN]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I just want to go on record saying that I was kidding....I would never want to make light of someone who has some kind of mental disorder!!!

He just cracks me up sometimes how he can be so sarcastic and then come right back and say something almost nice!

PC police enforces another retraction.

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by kepdawg
I was 15 as a sophomore!

I was only "17" when I started my FRESHMAN year in COLLEGE. Turned 18 two months later.

Sounds like he's got stud written all over him, but I seriously doubt most of these times and statistics. Some would be good numbers at the Pro Combine in Indy!

[Panther One]

A freak would be Amobi Okoye who was 15 his senior year of high school and played as a true freshman at Louisville at age 16, He was then drafted by the Texans at age 19. He'll be 21 this June.

Brock Fitzhenry was 15 in the 8th grade and turned 19 this past Sept or Oct. It's common these days, especially with coaches' children.

[Dogman_1969]

Originally posted by rockdale80
And that young man has a bright future. :)

His class will do good things.

Thanks Rockdale80. When I think about ages of kids I forget that he was actually 15 all football season and most of basketball season along with several others. Actually, there were several sophomores here that had to catch a ride to practice due to no license to drive.

Thanks again, and tonight this class will compete as a JV track team in Caldwell.

[Texasfootball2]

This is just an observation and in no way a slam on this young man. He is obviously a great athlete with a great future. Over the past ten years or so it has been my observation that these types of kids ( those who are much older than the others in their grade) have great high school careers and then do not live up to expectations in college. I have talk with several college football coaches and most of them have similiar philosophies as to why this is. These types of kids grow up being the oldest, biggest, and badest in their class their whole lives and never really have to fight or compete just to earn a spot or have success. It has always been easy for them. In some cases they have already physically matured in the early teens also. When they go to college and all of a sudden they are not the biggest, strongest, or fastest they have a hard time adjusting. I'm sure there are some exceptions but I have seen this happen many times over the past ten years. These same coaches also said that when recruiting sometimes realize that their's not much upside to them either. Like I said, there are some exceptions but this is just my observation.

Best of luck to the young man

[jlg043]

who cares if his times go down gary the dude is in 8th grade and runs a faster time then you... he is 15 yrs old doing all of this... he is better as an 8th grader than you were as a senior... kudos to that kid... he could be playing w/ the best of them