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themsu97
03-10-2008, 09:58 AM
maybe this will mean that cars will be outlawed?

Man kills 1, injures 4 others

By Erin McKeon
The Facts

Published March 10, 2008

ALVIN — One man is dead and four people are injured after sheriff’s officials said a maintenance man who apparently had been in a fight with several men intentionally plowed his truck into a group of people outside a trailer home.

Sergio Mand

ozvilla, 45, was pronounced dead at the scene in the 3900 block of CR 48, Saturday night by Pct. 4 Place 1 Judge Sharon Fox, said Sheriff’s Office Investigator Jerome Griffin.

A 5-year-old who fractured her arm and one of the injured men were taken by LifeFlight helicopter to Memorial Hermann Hospital in Houston, and another man was taken there by ambulance, he said.

A man also was taken by ambulance to Alvin Medical Center with a broken knee, Griffin said.

Salvador Rodriguez, 58, still was under investigative hold at the Brazoria County jail Sunday, but sheriff’s officials had a warrant charging him with

murder. The 24-hour investigative hold had not expired late Sunday, but when it did, Rodriguez was expected to be arraigned on the murder charge, Griffin said.

Toxicology tests are pending.

Deputies said trouble started at about 9:30 p.m. Saturday after an altercation between some men and Rodriguez, who is a Rosharon resident.

According to police reports, Rodriguez said he got off work at the trailer park, where he does maintenance, and went to the store to buy beer.

The report said he took the beer to a friend’s home at the park and drank until after dark, before getting in his 1983 gray and black Ford pickup to leave. As he pulled away from the trailer, he said four or five men began to yell for him to come over.

Griffin said Rodriguez thought the men were going to tell him about a repair they needed done, but instead he told deputies they began yelling and cursing at him before they took him out of his truck and beat him.

Rodriguez appeared to have been in a fight, Griffin said.

When he was able to get back in his truck he turned around in a grassy area at the trailer park and picked up speed before he cut between two vehicles and ran into the group standing outside, Griffin said.

“The guys were standing there and he said he saw them, and they assaulted him, and he was going to get back at them for what they did to him,” Griffin said. “And he drove his vehicle right up in the middle of all the guys.”

Rodriguez then went back to his friend’s trailer and told them to call the police because he had just hit someone, Griffin said.

“Rodriguez turned himself in at the scene,” Griffin said. “He told law enforcement he was the driver and he was the one who struck the people.”

Though no other charges had been filed late Sunday, Griffin said as many as four charges could be pending.

“If one intended to run someone over with a motor vehicle as a result of an earlier incident, the facts would justify intentionally or knowingly causing the death, or intending to cause serious bodily injury and committing an act clearly dangerous to human life,” District Attorney Jeri Yenne said.

Based on the facts presented in this case, the allegation would fit the murder charge, she said.

If convicted of murder, Rodriguez would face up to 99 years in prison.



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Phil C
03-10-2008, 11:22 AM
He was provoked but he injured some innocent people like the five year old.

lakers
03-10-2008, 11:24 AM
damn nutcase...:mad:

Black_Magic
03-10-2008, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by themsu97
maybe this will mean that cars will be outlawed?

Good Grief!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Cars were invented for transportation reasons.... GUNS were invented to KILL... You can kill with a ballpoint pen. Lets just start with banning guns that were invented for the specific purpose of KILLING PEOPLE.. :rolleyes: That was a silly suggestion

pirate4state
03-10-2008, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
Good Grief!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Cars were invented for transportation reasons.... GUNS were invented to KILL... You can kill with a ballpoint pen. Lets just start with banning guns that were invented for the specific purpose of KILLING PEOPLE.. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Where is that freakin brick wall smiley???

LH Panther Mom
03-10-2008, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by pirate4state
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Where is that freakin brick wall smiley???
http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/images/smilies/banghead.gif

I_DONT_CARE
03-10-2008, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
Good Grief!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Cars were invented for transportation reasons.... GUNS were invented to KILL... You can kill with a ballpoint pen. Lets just start with banning guns that were invented for the specific purpose of KILLING PEOPLE.. :rolleyes: That was a silly suggestion
GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. SHOULD WE BAN PEOPLE? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Black_Magic
03-10-2008, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/images/smilies/banghead.gif Ok then call for the banning of all cars!!!http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/images/smilies/banghead.gif

Black_Magic
03-10-2008, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. SHOULD WE BAN PEOPLE? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: People can Kill more people with some guns than they can with others...

pirate4state
03-10-2008, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/images/smilies/banghead.gif

thanks

:D

pirate4state
03-10-2008, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
People can Kill more people with some guns than they can with others... Where did I lay down my ball point pen?? :devil:


oh and francis before you get all twisted -- that's a joke!! :rolleyes:

Sweetwater Red
03-10-2008, 11:41 AM
I can kill you with one of these.:eek:
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg53/detroit8990/finger.jpg

If you don't believe me...pull it and find out.:D :devil:

nobogey72
03-10-2008, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
Good Grief!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Cars were invented for transportation reasons.... GUNS were invented to KILL... You can kill with a ballpoint pen. Lets just start with banning guns that were invented for the specific purpose of KILLING PEOPLE.. :rolleyes: That was a silly suggestion

Well, that proves it. BM has no commom sense. 100 people could read the post he is referring to and realize it was sarcastic, but evidently it went right over BMs head. Either that, or he is hijacking the thread to get into gun control debate. :thinking: :thinking:

LH Panther Mom
03-10-2008, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by nobogey72
Either that, or he is hijacking the thread to get into gun control debate. :thinking: :thinking:
:hand: :hand: Psssshhhh! He would never do that. :p ;)

themsu97
03-10-2008, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
I can kill you with one of these.:eek:
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg53/detroit8990/finger.jpg

If you don't believe me...pull it and find out.:D :devil:

I do not know if I could actually kill someone, but I could render someone useless for awhile...

however, there are certain coaches at Scrub C who are notorius for that

ToroChingon
03-10-2008, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
People can Kill more people with some guns than they can with others...


I guess you're right. I know I can kill 20 people with 20 bullets with my 7Mag, but with an AK47, there's no way you'll get 20 kills with 20 bullets. Some of them will get hit by 2 or 3 rounds each. So with a bolt-action deer rifle you'll get much more efficiency.

Black_Magic
03-10-2008, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by ToroChingon
I guess you're right. I know I can kill 20 people with 20 bullets with my 7Mag, but with an AK47, there's no way you'll get 20 kills with 20 bullets. Some of them will get hit by 2 or 3 rounds each. So with a bolt-action deer rifle you'll get much more efficiency. WOW!! thats wisdom. I dont know why the military isnt using more standard deer rifles then instead of the good old M16 :thinking: Those idiots dont realize that the most effective killing machine is a good old deer rifle.:doh: Oh!!the millions of tax dollars waisted on all that weapons deveopment and amunition..:doh: wonder if a cross bow would work.No gunpowder and much cheaper. I like the Idea of using the trucks to run people over. Humvees should do even better than a pickup.:clap:

eppy 12
03-10-2008, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
WOW!! thats wisdom. I dont know why the military isnt using more standard deer rifles then instead of the good old M16 :thinking: Those idiots dont realize that the most effective killing machine is a good old deer rifle.:doh: Oh!!the millions of tax dollars waisted on all that weapons deveopment and amunition..:doh: wonder if a cross bow would work.No gunpowder and much cheaper. I like the Idea of using the trucks to run people over. Humvees should do even better than a pickup.:clap: with the proper brush guard....

I_DONT_CARE
03-10-2008, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
WOW!! thats wisdom. I dont know why the military isnt using more standard deer rifles then instead of the good old M16 :thinking: Those idiots dont realize that the most effective killing machine is a good old deer rifle.:doh: Oh!!the millions of tax dollars waisted on all that weapons deveopment and amunition..:doh: wonder if a cross bow would work.No gunpowder and much cheaper. I like the Idea of using the trucks to run people over. Humvees should do even better than a pickup.:clap:
ARE YOU ALWAYS THIS BELLIGERENT OR JUST ON MONDAYS? :confused:

ToroChingon
03-10-2008, 01:47 PM
You are right BM. Of course, the military is smart enough to train specialists called "SNIPERS" and I don't think their weapon of choice is the M16. I think it was once a modified version of my 700.


I had a GREAT BM after lunch.

pirate4state
03-10-2008, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by I_DONT_CARE
ARE YOU ALWAYS THIS BELLIGERENT OR JUST ON MONDAYS? :confused: Take my advice - this is really one of those things you really, really shouldn't care about! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

eppy 12
03-10-2008, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by ToroChingon



I had a GREAT BM after lunch. i am having a great one right now!

Black_Magic
03-10-2008, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by ToroChingon
I guess you're right. I know I can kill 20 people with 20 bullets with my 7Mag, but with an AK47, there's no way you'll get 20 kills with 20 bullets. Some of them will get hit by 2 or 3 rounds each. So with a bolt-action deer rifle you'll get much more efficiency. Bellegerent? No Im convinced that this guy and you are right. Right now Im just wondering why the US military is waisting millions of dollars on inferior firepower? I dont understand it. Nobodys bellegerent. you guys have convinced me that Assault weapons Like an AK47 are not near as dangerous an the good old bolt action deer rifle. I wonder who we should contact to get the US Army and Marines to convert back to bolt action rifles? I think we could win the war on terror in a matter of months if we did. or even better.. use Cars.

AP Panther Fan
03-10-2008, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
I think we could win the war on terror in a matter of months if we did. or even better.. use Cars.


The terrorists do...it seems to be working rather well for them. :(

ToroChingon
03-10-2008, 02:25 PM
I guess the BM has never heard of, much less met, another Sniper before. That's OK. We are clandestined anyway. Best kept secret in the military arsenal. "One shot-One kill." Works.

Phil C
03-10-2008, 03:43 PM
IF CARS ARE OUTLAWED THEN ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE CARS!!


:mad:

Sweetwater Red
03-10-2008, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Phil C
IF CARS ARE OUTLAWED THEN ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE CARS!!


:mad:

:doh: :D

pirate4state
03-10-2008, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Phil C
IF CARS ARE OUTLAWED THEN ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE CARS!!


:mad:

Oh man, you crack me up Phil! :D :D

themsu97
03-10-2008, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
WOW!! thats wisdom. I dont know why the military isnt using more standard deer rifles then instead of the good old M16 :thinking: Those idiots dont realize that the most effective killing machine is a good old deer rifle.:doh: Oh!!the millions of tax dollars waisted on all that weapons deveopment and amunition..:doh: wonder if a cross bow would work.No gunpowder and much cheaper. I like the Idea of using the trucks to run people over. Humvees should do even better than a pickup.:clap:

no,Humvees are too high off the ground and people could duck or lie down and you would miss... pick ups are much better... plus they do not cost near the money...
Humvees are only good when you want to crash into a building

nobogey72
03-10-2008, 04:20 PM
I still can't get over the fact that Blackie doesn't recognize sarcasm when he sees it. It almost makes me think that he might occasionally just look for an arguement. Surely he didn't think that "maybe we should outlaw cars" was a serious suggestion. WOW!!!!!:thinking: :thinking:

nobogey72
03-10-2008, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
WOW!! thats wisdom. I dont know why the military isnt using more standard deer rifles then instead of the good old M16 :thinking: Those idiots dont realize that the most effective killing machine is a good old deer rifle.:doh: Oh!!the millions of tax dollars waisted on all that weapons deveopment and amunition..:doh: wonder if a cross bow would work.No gunpowder and much cheaper. I like the Idea of using the trucks to run people over. Humvees should do even better than a pickup.:clap:

When I was 10 I shot my grandad's bull in the nads with my Benjamin Pump air rifle. (Only pumped it twice). It did a lot of damage, in that the bull tore up the corral and chute and lots of other things. My grandad asked me why I did it. Told him the truth------ Saw them hanging there and just decided to see what would happen. So... anyway.... have a good day.:) :)