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Adidas410s
02-22-2008, 02:00 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3258745

NCAA committee partially overturns ruling, reinstates 8 Sooners wins
Associated Press

Updated: February 22, 2008, 12:36 PM ET

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Oklahoma will have wins reinstated from the 2005 Holiday Bowl season after an NCAA appeals committee partially overturned a ruling in the infractions case involving former quarterback Rhett Bomar.

The NCAA Infractions Appeals Committee released a ruling Friday that Oklahoma should not have been found guilty of separate violations for failing to detect that football players were working at a Norman car dealership and failing to monitor those students' employment.

In overturning the violation related to detecting the players' employment, the appeals committee reinstated the Sooners' wins from their 8-4 season in 2005.

"This decision is a great thing for those individuals involved with our 2005 team," Sooners coach Bob Stoops said in a statement. "Most of the players on our current roster were not on that team, but I know those victories mean a lot to the players and coaches who were here at that time."

The appeals panel partially upheld a "failure to monitor" violation imposed against Oklahoma, stating that the university didn't use established institutional procedures that would have revealed the employment of 12 players at the dealership in summer 2005.

The NCAA infractions committee previously ruled that Oklahoma failed to collect earnings statements in a timely manner that would have revealed the players' employment. As a result, three players received about $17,000 in impermissible benefits for work they did not perform at the car dealership.

Oklahoma self-imposed scholarship reductions and took assistant coaches off the recruiting trail as sanctions for the violations that involved Bomar and former offensive lineman J.D. Quinn. Both players were also kicked off the team, with Bomar transferring to Sam Houston State and Quinn to Montana. The program disassociated itself with Brad McRae, the former manager of the car dealership.

However, the school objected to the NCAA erasing its wins from the season when the players were on the team, claiming that it was unfair to punish teammates who didn't break the rules. Oklahoma also argued that the violations wouldn't have been detected without the school's own investigation.

"While we are pleased with the findings by the NCAA Infractions Appeals Committee, we are most pleased for the 100 student athletes and coaches who played by the rules and worked their hearts out for a successful 2005 season," university president David Boren said in the statement.

The NCAA said in its news release that the "the university's cooperation was a significant factor in the ultimate determination of the violations," but the infractions committee did not acknowledge that in its decision.

"We fully appreciate and respect the process required in these matters," Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione said in the statement. "We are pleased that the NCAA recognized the university's approach in taking immediate and significant action upon our discovery of the violations and of the work and cooperation of the University of Oklahoma in the ultimate detection of the violations."

Oklahoma spokesman Kenny Mossman said Castiglione would not comment further on the report.

88bobcats
02-22-2008, 02:28 PM
What about Texas A&M's situation with Greg Hill? Why hasn't R.C. Slocum been exonerated?

'Cause Stoops is the head cheater, that's why!

block&tackle
02-22-2008, 02:39 PM
This is rediculous!

It wasn't just those two players - 17 Sooner football players "worked" there, including Adrian Peterson. And this was right after the NCAA declared that there had been no violations in the 3-month Lexus "test drive" that Peterson had taken. This involved him having the car in Palestine as well as Norman! UT suspended their WR for driving his friends car around Austin and it was no Lexus.

Why does OU get a free pass? I would love for the NCAA to look into why their recruiting coordinator Gundy changes his cell-phone every month or so, but that ain't gonna happen. I don't mind the NCAA imposing draconian rules on colleges IF they enforce them fairly and evenly. I couldn't have a college football player over to my house for dinner but if they go to the right school, they can drive a Lexus for a few months without paying for it?

My topic to rant on, sorry.

Panther One
02-22-2008, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by 88bobcats
What about Texas A&M's situation with Greg Hill? Why hasn't R.C. Slocum been exonerated?

'Cause Stoops is the head cheater, that's why!
Obviously there was nothing wrong with punishing the entire team in that instance. Hill avoided it all by going pro. His former teammates went undefeated the next season but were banned from TV and postseason play.

If any of you ever read TexAgs, long before this story broke, a poster got on TexAgs and said that his girlfriend who worked at a car dealership in Norman was curious about the checks they were cutting to members of the football team. Most of the other posters on TexAgs thought he was full of it, told him so, and that was that. Several months later when this became national news, that post was brought back up, and said poster is now a TexAgs legend. Anyway, OU's claim that it was their investigation that brought this to light is total BS. This was going to come out whether they did an ivestigation or not. The punishment in this case did not fit the crime to begin with and now it definitely does not. What's next? Is the NCAA going to give them two extra scholarships over the next three years to make up for unjust punishments?

Phil C
02-22-2008, 04:30 PM
The situation is the same with USC and Reggie Bush. Look at what they did to SMU and A&M in the 80s.

It's Ye Ole Double Standard.

block&tackle
02-22-2008, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Phil C
The situation is the same with USC and Reggie Bush. Look at what they did to SMU and A&M in the 80s.

It's Ye Ole Double Standard.
You are dead-on as far as USC goes - something like $900K in benefits to his family and that is not a violation?

As far as A&M and SMU in the 80's, it is hard to defend what they were doing. Include TCU in that group. A&M got off easy but the thing that really stinks about that whole deal is that Sherril didn't have any trouble finding another job while leaving A&M to pick up the pieces.

Let's face it, anything that we are talking about today doesn't compare to what was going on in the 80's. Even OU under Stoops is snow white compared to the Switzer days. The NCAA did a decent job cleaning things up. But enforcing some of the ticky-tack stuff that they do and letting clear, unadulterated cheating go on at the USCs and OUs of college football is wrong.

Old Dog
02-22-2008, 05:16 PM
Can Rhett Bomar go back and play for OU now? LOL!!!!!