State Championship Game Appearances

[WOS87]

I'm putting together a few simple tables for another project and thought I'd post them here as there might be some interested.... Here's the first, which shows all programs ever to participate in 3 state championship games or more.

Years in BOLD indicate Championships
This includes 6-man, 8-man and 11-man football
Ch=Total # of Championships
Ru=Total # of times as runnerup

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[NastySlot]

good info......i still hoping plano can get one in the next 3 years....so that they would have at least one in every decade since the 60's...................everyone always talks about slc, celina and permian.....plano was the original program.....winning as they moved up and still winning after opening two new schools.

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by NastySlot
good info......i still hoping plano can get one in the next 3 years....so that they would have at least one in every decade since the 60's...................everyone always talks about slc, celina and permian.....plano was the original program.....winning as they moved up and still winning after opening two new schools.

It looks to me like MOJO has been right there with Plano every step of the way.

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by kepdawg
It looks to me like MOJO has been right there with Plano every step of the way.


your so right i tend to be bias........but lets talk head to head...plano baby....i don't mean make it sound like i'm degrading any of the others....if taken that way i apologize.............people just tend to forget about plano.

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by NastySlot
your so right i tend to be bias........but lets talk head to head...plano baby....i don't mean make it sound like i'm degrading any of the others....if taken that way i apologize.............people just tend to forget about plano.

I completely see where you are coming from. MOJO still gets mentioned because of the whole Friday Night Lights mystique. I just found it interesting you included them along side Celina and Carroll. It is clear that as far as championships go with the exception of Celina's in 74 that both Carroll and Celina are relative newcomers. with all of their titles coming within the last 20 years.

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by NastySlot
good info......i still hoping plano can get one in the next 3 years....so that they would have at least one in every decade since the 60's...................everyone always talks about slc, celina and permian.....plano was the original program.....winning as they moved up and still winning after opening two new schools.

Plano was a non-factor throughout the late 1990's, up until they re-merged with a 13-1 record two years ago. Plano East really took up the banner after 1994 for the two plano schools.

PHS had fallen to 0-10 and 4-6 before Gerald Brence caguht fire again. Plano may have been the biggest school in texas for a long time (although i don't know if they still are) but because they only have juniors and seniors at the school continuity has become more of a problem with Plano East and West now open.

Where Plano succeeded was in winning at every level, in part helped by being the only high school in a town that grew from 2,000 to 200,000 in forty years. It took great coaching to continue that tradition, but it remains to be seen if plano can continue this recent resurgence, or fade back into obscurity with other powers of the past

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
Plano was a non-factor throughout the late 1990's, up until they re-merged with a 13-1 record two years ago. Plano East really took up the banner after 1994 for the two plano schools.

PHS had fallen to 0-10 and 4-6 before Gerald Brence caguht fire again. Plano may have been the biggest school in texas for a long time (although i don't know if they still are) but because they only have juniors and seniors at the school continuity has become more of a problem with Plano East and West now open.

Where Plano succeeded was in winning at every level, in part helped by being the only high school in a town that grew from 2,000 to 200,000 in forty years. It took great coaching to continue that tradition, but it remains to be seen if plano can continue this recent resurgence, or fade back into obscurity with other powers of the past

kinda makes me wonder how the heck katy continues to roll...and the other 4-5 high schools in the kisd don't fare so well.........plano was for years limited to only playing jr and sr's...the addition of underclassmen just happen recently...............and kep your right mojo shouldn't have been mentioned with the others..............

[kepdawg]

Plano just might get #8 next year.

[WOS87]

I think it's interesting how pretty much every single program in the top 11 made all of their appearances in relatively compact periods of time.

Time between 1st and last appearance:

34 years: Cuero, Abilene, Wichita Falls
33 years: Celina
30 years: Odessa Permian
29 years: Plano
26 years: Old Waco High
24 years: Converse Judson
21 years: Brownwood
20 years: La Marque
18 years: Southlake Carroll

After that you start seeing huge gaps of time between the first and last appearances:

63 years: Highland Park
52 years: Temple
48 years: Katy
46 years: PN-G

[Reds fan]

Originally posted by NastySlot
kinda makes me wonder how the heck katy continues to roll...and the other 4-5 high schools in the kisd don't fare so well.........plano was for years limited to only playing jr and sr's...the addition of underclassmen just happen recently...............and kep your right mojo shouldn't have been mentioned with the others..............

I think Katy High School is an island of it's own even with KISD growth. The program is still run as if it were the only school in the district as it was when 3a back in the 70's. Tradition, tradition, tradtion. KHS remains unlike the other KISD "suburb" schools and produces year in and year out.

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by NastySlot
kinda makes me wonder how the heck katy continues to roll...and the other 4-5 high schools in the kisd don't fare so well.........plano was for years limited to only playing jr and sr's...the addition of underclassmen just happen recently...............and kep your right mojo shouldn't have been mentioned with the others..............

i've known a couple of katy fans for a long time (including the owner of 5ATF.com)

They NEVER get talked about in the conversation, but they have been in 7 title games themselves since 1994

only Celina, Converse Judson, LaMarque and Southlake Carroll can compare with that, and that's pretty good company (4 of the top 10)

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by WOS87
I think it's interesting how pretty much every single program in the top 11 made all of their appearances in relatively compact periods of time.

Time between 1st and last appearance:

34 years: Cuero, Abilene, Wichita Falls
33 years: Celina
30 years: Odessa Permian
29 years: Plano
26 years: Old Waco High
24 years: Converse Judson
21 years: Brownwood
20 years: La Marque
18 years: Southlake Carroll

After that you start seeing huge gaps of time between the first and last appearances:

63 years: Highland Park
52 years: Temple
48 years: Katy
46 years: PN-G

Abilene, Celina, Judson, Brownwood, La Marque, and Carroll one or two coaches come to mind.

WOS if you have it easily accessible could you give us the head coaches for the top 11 during their time frame listed?

You already provided Cuero's in another thread.

If you don't have it don't go to the trouble of getting it!

[coachkiss]

Where's Liberty Hill?

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by coachkiss
Where's Liberty Hill? Near Austin. In regards to this thread he did say 3 state championship appearances! :doh: 2 out of 2 ain't bad. Wish Sinton could say the same!

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by coachkiss
Where's Liberty Hill?

Just west of Georgetown. ;)

[kepdawg]

No offense to anyone from Christoval, but as a Denison fan seeing Christoval's place on the list makes me feel better.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by coachkiss
Where's Liberty Hill?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Reading comprehension is a great thing. :)

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by kepdawg
No offense to anyone from Christoval, but as a Denison fan seeing Christoval's place on the list makes me feel better. 0-4? thats gotta be rough

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by DU_stud04
0-4? thats gotta be rough

Yeah, I just wish I would have been in Denison for the 1. The 3 part wasn't much fun!

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Yeah, I just wish I would have been in Denison for the 1. The 3 part wasn't much fun!

Wasn't much fun?


See second round...:(

http://www.texasfootballratings.com/4A1995.html

See third round...:(

http://www.texasfootballratings.com/4A1996Div2.html

See fourth round...:(

http://www.texasfootballratings.com/4A1997Div2.html

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Wasn't much fun?


See second round...:(

http://www.texasfootballratings.com/4A1995.html

See third round...:(

http://www.texasfootballratings.com/4A1996Div2.html

See fourth round...:(

http://www.texasfootballratings.com/4A1997Div2.html

It was fun getting there!

[WOS87]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Abilene, Celina, Judson, Brownwood, La Marque, and Carroll one or two coaches come to mind.

WOS if you have it easily accessible could you give us the head coaches for the top 11 during their time frame listed?

You already provided Cuero's in another thread.

If you don't have it don't go to the trouble of getting it!

(1) Converse Judson 1983-2007
1980-1983 Frank Arnold
1984-2000 D.W. Rutledge
2001- Jim Rackley

(2) Odessa Permian 1965-1995
1965-1970 Gene Mayfield
1971-1972 Gil Bartosh
1973-1985 John Wilkins
1986-1989 Gary Gaines
1990-1993 Tam Hollingshead
1994-1999 Randy Mayes

(3) Wichita Falls 1937-1971
1932-1943 Ted Jeffries
1944-1945 Tugboat Jones
1946 Pat Pattison
1947-1961 Joe Golding
1962-1964 Hunter Kirkpatrick
1965-1979 Donnell Crosslin

(4) Cuero 1970-2004
1969-1979 Buster Gilbreth
1980-1985 Larry Pullin
1986-1989 Pat Blessing
1990-1991 Ron Hughes
1992-1998 Mickey Finley
1999-2002 Bill Littleton
2003- Mark Reeve

(5) Celina 1974-2007
1971-1976 G.A. Moore Jr.
1977-1981 Jerry Jones
1982-1986 Joe Stubblefield
1987 Tom Bagby
1988-2001 G.A. Moore Jr.
2002- Butch Ford

(6) Plano 1965-1994
1959-1965 Tom Gray
1966-1975 John Clark
1976-1991 Tom Kimbrough
1992-2006 Gerald Brence

(7) Old Waco High 1922-1948
1913-1930 Paul Tyson
1931 Dutch Bernhausen
1932-1941 Paul Tyson
1942-1945 Harry Stiteler
1946-1947 Bill DuBose
1948-1959 Carl Price

(8) La Marque 1986-2006
1983-1986 Hugh Massey
1987-1989 Larry Nowotny
1990-1997 Alan Weddell
1998-2001 Larry Walker
2002-2005 Brian Erwin
2006- Chris Jones

(9) Southlake Carroll 1988-2006
1980-1995 Bob Ledbetter
1996-1999 Tom Rapp
2000-2006 Todd Dodge

(10) Brownwood 1960-1981
1960-1985 Gordon Wood

(11) Abilene 1922-1956
1917-1923 Pete Shotwell
1924-1926 Lee Jones
1927-1940 Dewey Mayhew
1941-1943 Vernon Hilliard
1944-1945 Jake Bentley
1946-1952 Pete Shotwell
1953-1959 Chuck Moser

[kepdawg]

Thanks WOS! :clap: