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Matthew328
01-20-2008, 11:49 PM
http://hstexas.scout.com/2/721854.html


Made a few geographical adjustments in Region 4 and I got a confirmed # for Alvarado and they will be 3A...I put Alvarado in Brownwood's district and moved Hillsboro to 17-3A

Matthew328
01-20-2008, 11:55 PM
I love how some like to ridicule others for putting a projection out, yet when it comes to real content there is none....LOL

I left off a team in my 4A alignment due to a rush copy and paste job to get the article posted and I get ripped....I love it..

You know who you are by the way :)

And the error is fixed thanks

eagles_victory
01-20-2008, 11:55 PM
is there a 2a mock?

Matthew328
01-21-2008, 12:00 AM
Naaa I prolly won't do 2A....I haven't researched enough of the #'s to make an eductated guess....plus if accidentally leave a team off I may get ripped for it and get accused of not having a clue...but we won't go there and name names

eagles_victory
01-21-2008, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by Matthew328
Naaa I prolly won't do 2A....I haven't researched enough of the #'s to make an eductated guess....plus if accidentally leave a team off I may get ripped for it and get accused of not having a clue...but we won't go there and name names i want to know could you redirect me to a thread lol

Matthew328
01-21-2008, 12:03 AM
Naaa no thread to direct....I've said my peace...

SintonFan_inAustin
01-21-2008, 12:07 AM
Zapata problaly be in 31-3a and Raymondville in 32-3a. Zapata, Orange Grove and West Oso have been in the same district before. Raymondville is in the valley and better fit for 32-3a with them in it than Zapata.

Old Green
01-21-2008, 12:15 AM
It looks good Matt, but I see a couple geographical moves you could make.

La vernia should replace Somerset in 29 - 3a. Somerset would have to go thru La Vernia to get to District games.

Somerset should be placed in 27 - 3A

Medina Valley should be in 26 - 3A

That would be better geographically and would kind of follow the District set ups during the early 90's

Pleasanton - Poteet a quandry. The the 2 towns are only 1/2 mile a part and Poteet would have to go thru Pleasanton to get to 29-3a games

Sam Houston could possible swith with Poteet. Sam Houston is a far Eastside school and would possible be a better fit in 29 -3a.

Matthew328
01-21-2008, 12:20 AM
Pleasanton was a quandry but I needed another school to fill the gap in Corpus (or it would be a dreaded 5 team loop) and my logic is Pleasanton's location south of San Antonio and right on I-37 was the decision to move them south to avoid the 5 team 30-3A which would be bad....

There could be some better geographical alignments but I wanted to do it w/o the five team districts which I hate...

Matthew328
01-21-2008, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by Old Green
It looks good Matt, but I see a couple geographical moves you could make.

La vernia should replace Somerset in 29 - 3a. Somerset would have to go thru La Vernia to get to District games.

Somerset should be placed in 27 - 3A

Medina Valley should be in 26 - 3A

That would be better geographically and would kind of follow the District set ups during the early 90's

Pleasanton - Poteet a quandry. The the 2 towns are only 1/2 mile a part and Poteet would have to go thru Pleasanton to get to 29-3a games

Sam Houston could possible swith with Poteet. Sam Houston is a far Eastside school and would possible be a better fit in 29 -3a.

Thanks for the geographical suggestions though! :cool:

gato 76
01-21-2008, 12:27 AM
Austin Reagan 3A,wow we played then in the class 4A semifinals just in 2001.What kind of team did they have last year?

cr180t
01-21-2008, 12:27 AM
Pecos (226) is closer to Anthony then Fort Stockton 260

Old Green
01-21-2008, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by Matthew328
Pleasanton was a quandry but I needed another school to fill the gap in Corpus (or it would be a dreaded 5 team loop) and my logic is Pleasanton's location south of San Antonio and right on I-37 was the decision to move them south to avoid the 5 team 30-3A which would be bad....

There could be some better geographical alignments but I wanted to do it w/o the five team districts which I hate... I understand the reasoning. I-37 ease of travel to D30.

WOS87
01-21-2008, 02:19 AM
Here's what the Revised Region III projection looks like:

District 17 - Red
District 18 - Orange
District 19 - Green
District 20 - Teal
District 21 - Blue
District 22 - Purple
District 24 - Pink

http://idisk.mac.com/cboehme69-Public/stats/33arevised.gif

Ingleside Fan
01-21-2008, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by Matthew328
Pleasanton was a quandry but I needed another school to fill the gap in Corpus (or it would be a dreaded 5 team loop) and my logic is Pleasanton's location south of San Antonio and right on I-37 was the decision to move them south to avoid the 5 team 30-3A which would be bad....

There could be some better geographical alignments but I wanted to do it w/o the five team districts which I hate...

So is Goliad moving down to 2a? They were in 29 the last two years and 30 before that.

sic'em
01-21-2008, 09:30 AM
i guess you have pilot point and van alstyne moving down to 2a?

maestro
01-21-2008, 09:41 AM
old 24-3a..

where would royal go??? 2a??

why do you think that rivals such as bellville, sealy, and columbus cannot seem to find the same district?

looking at your map, that's easy travel....and natural rivals....

24-3a would keep sealy....but lose columbus and royal??


ok....just debating......

palacios????

old warrior
01-21-2008, 10:56 AM
what #s are you working with here?

where is Whitney?

Hupernikomen
01-21-2008, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by WOS87
Here's what the Revised Region III projection looks like:

District 17 - Red
District 18 - Orange
District 19 - Green
District 20 - Teal
District 21 - Blue
District 22 - Purple
District 24 - Pink

http://idisk.mac.com/cboehme69-Public/stats/33arevised.gif

Looks to me like Madisonville should be going north instead of Rockdale. And that Byran Rudder should be going east allow Rockdale to have its spot.

KTJ
01-21-2008, 11:06 AM
Are people really expecting 3A to be this screwed up?

Districts as a BYE? Wow.

Adidas410s
01-21-2008, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by KTJ
Are people really expecting 3A to be this screwed up?

Districts as a BYE? Wow.

See District 2-3A...it's been a bye in football for 2 years now. Matthew was doing the best possible job to create a 3A without the 4-5 team districts. Evidently the UIL doesn't want to keep districts that small again. I think they realized that a 1-9 playoff team just isn't that appealing...

Matthew328
01-21-2008, 11:30 AM
# I worked with was 459-1031


Any way you slice it in order to have six team districts across the board there will be some screwy combos.....some of the screwy combos could be fixed if UIL allows 5 team districts in some cases in that scenario you could have some 7 team loops but also 5 team loops...I chose to do this one with all six team districts because if I was doing the alignment that is what I'd want...but I do agree there are some messed up combos but such will be life in 3A

waterboy
01-21-2008, 11:50 AM
Boy, I hope their wrong on this one. It looks like some of the districts will be top-heavy, while others will be weak. I guess that's one way to get a few teams in the playoffs that are not used to getting in. Districts 14 and 17 look tough!

WOS87
01-21-2008, 12:06 PM
I'd probably put Region III as follows:

leave Hillsboro in Region II

17 - China Spring, Waco La Vega, Waco Connally, Robinson, Lorena, Gatesville
18 - West, Palestine, Palestine Westwood, Fairfield, Mexia, Groesbeck
19 - Giddings, Smithville, La Grange, Columbus, Bellville, Sealy
20 - Rockdale, Caldwell, Bryan Rudder, Madisonville, Navasota, Coldspring
21 - Splendora, Shepherd, Cleveland, Tarkington, Liberty, Huffman
22 - WO-S, Hardin-Jefferson, Hamshire-Fannett, Silsbee, Jasper, Bridge City, Orangefield
23 - Scarborough, Forest Brook, Stafford, Wharton, Needville, West Columbia, Sweeny

Old Green
01-21-2008, 12:36 PM
Region 4 looks good Matt.
Edna is still a questionable.
Good job though.:thumbsup:

Jack_Daniels
01-21-2008, 12:43 PM
I think they are going to align in a fashion that will allow 4 playoff teams. It will happen soon. It will trickle down from 4A and will go to 3A then 2A then 1A someday.

mwynn05
01-21-2008, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by WOS87
I'd probably put Region III as follows:

leave Hillsboro in Region II

17 - China Spring, Waco La Vega, Waco Connally, Robinson, Lorena, Gatesville
18 - West, Palestine, Palestine Westwood, Fairfield, Mexia, Groesbeck
19 - Giddings, Smithville, La Grange, Columbus, Bellville, Sealy
20 - Rockdale, Caldwell, Bryan Rudder, Madisonville, Navasota, Coldspring
21 - Splendora, Shepherd, Cleveland, Tarkington, Liberty, Huffman
22 - WO-S, Hardin-Jefferson, Hamshire-Fannett, Silsbee, Jasper, Bridge City, Orangefield
23 - Scarborough, Forest Brook, Stafford, Wharton, Needville, West Columbia, Sweeny the dilemma with 18-3a is we have always been one team short before palestine dropped down teague was in 3a then when teague dropped down palestine kin of replaced them Fairfield Mexia and Groesbeck will always be together...the problem with west is there are so many towns so close...we did have marlin and robinson a couple of times and i kind of saw them as "travel partners" that way they always have a few games that are close...and if it were a waco area school it wouldnt be west because with the way the roads are the best way to get from Fairfield Mexia or Groesbeck to west would put you going right past la vega and Connally

Adidas410s
01-21-2008, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by Jack_Daniels
I think they are going to align in a fashion that will allow 4 playoff teams. It will happen soon. It will trickle down from 4A and will go to 3A then 2A then 1A someday.
They would realign again before we see 4 playoff teams in 3A..

buff4life
01-21-2008, 02:16 PM
looks great, only thing i would switch is bringing rockdale down and bryan rudder up...

S_Tex_3A_Fan
01-21-2008, 02:33 PM
What about Goliad and Luling they will both still be 3A and Gonzales?

piratebg
01-21-2008, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by S_Tex_3A_Fan
What about Goliad and Luling they will both still be 3A and Gonzales?

Goliad and Luling have were mentioned as schools dropping to 2a. I haven't heard about Gonzales yet.

bigcat8
01-21-2008, 02:44 PM
read on another board where gonzales turned in 718... 3A

fbjm
01-21-2008, 05:02 PM
Matt -

Source in the FWISD Athletic Dept says Carter will stay up. I don't know what that does to the 4A district. in FW. If that is so what does that do to the mock 12AAA?

Matthew328
01-21-2008, 05:21 PM
If Carter stays up that throws a lot out of whack...especially in 4A because now FWISD gets a 2nd district

the easiest fix is to pull Lake Worth from 7-3A into 12-3A and move Hillsboro from 17-3A over to 7-3A

JT44
01-21-2008, 06:06 PM
gonzales was in there w/ cuero's district.

Interesting, Edna would have some long road trips

Where's YOAKUM?

piratebg
01-21-2008, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by JT44
Where's YOAKUM?


Supposedly headed to 2A along with Palacios.

HEMOTOXIC
01-21-2008, 06:18 PM
Switch Bryan Rudder and Bellville...

LHSEagleFan
01-21-2008, 06:20 PM
Luling reported 446

pirate4state
01-21-2008, 06:30 PM
Yoakum in 2A would be VERY interesting

Matt quit your crying! :bigcry: :D

KL3
01-21-2008, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by HEMOTOXIC
Switch Bryan Rudder and Bellville...

Exactly what I was thinking.

PHS Wildcats
01-21-2008, 08:54 PM
I just hope Palestine goes East!!

jimmyceatworld
01-21-2008, 09:17 PM
Madisonville is usually in the same district as Fairfield, Mexia, and Groesbeck so is it more likely that they will flip flop with someone like ... Rockdale I guess?

jimmyceatworld
01-21-2008, 09:20 PM
Maybe Rockdale, Bryan Rudder and Madisonville all switch

mwynn05
01-22-2008, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by jimmyceatworld
Maybe Rockdale, Bryan Rudder and Madisonville all switch Rockdale has been in our district before

trojan37
01-22-2008, 05:23 PM
West has been in every district mentioned in here. For years we had Mexia and Groesbeck in our district, so either way, it's not a problem. There are some back roads that lead out of town that get us to Mexia and Groesbeck rather quickly without ever having to get on I-35. My question is what happened to Clifton. They were projected to move up to 3A. If so, where do they go. It seems to me that they would be with Hillsboro and Whitney, unless they aren't moving up now.

Matthew328
01-22-2008, 11:24 PM
Clifton is a possible move up but a lot depends on how high the 3A cut is

PHS Wildcats
01-23-2008, 12:01 AM
Hey Matt

I know you have Palestine in what pretty much thier district of the lasr 2 yrs, but what are there chance of playing in an East Texas district?

Old Green
01-26-2008, 12:11 PM
Thought I'd bring this back up

SpeedOption
01-27-2008, 11:39 AM
Palestine is pretty east anyway.

HippoBaseball05
01-27-2008, 03:39 PM
If they think A.I.S.D. is going to let Reagan and Johnston go 3A, they are smoking something.

Two years ago Johnston fought to stay 4A ond not go into 18-AAA with the teams we have now. They were willing to flirt with cancelling their football schedule over it.

runthequarter
01-27-2008, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by HippoBaseball05
They were willing to flirt with cancelling their football schedule over it.

I could see em doing that.Another reason dealing with multi-school districts is/will be a pain. There are gonna be some stories.

boudreaux
01-27-2008, 06:59 PM
Poteet and Pleasanton need to be in the same district.

JMO

I see what you're trying to do with the six team districts and it's a good idea to a certain extent.

WOS87
01-27-2008, 07:10 PM
I've posted them in other threads, but here are the maps I've completed for Regions I, II, III and IV using Matt's mock alignment all in one place...

Color Coding:

Districts 1, 9, 17 and 25 - RED
Districts 2, 10, 18 and 26 - ORANGE
Districts 3, 11, 19 and 27 - OLIVE GREEN
Districts 4, 12, 20 and 29 - TEAL
Districts 5, 13, 21 and 30 - BLUE
Districts 6, 14, 22 and 31 - PURPLE
Districts 7, 15, 24 and 32 - PINK

He has Districts 8, 16, 23 and 28 as BYE districts

Region I

http://idisk.mac.com/cboehme69-Public/stats/13aprojection.gif

Region II

http://idisk.mac.com/cboehme69-Public/stats/23aprojection.gif

Region III

http://idisk.mac.com/cboehme69-Public/stats/33arevised.gif

Region IV

http://idisk.mac.com/cboehme69-Public/stats/43aprojection.gif

charlesrixey
01-28-2008, 12:31 PM
could pilot point really move back down?

if so, that would probably signal the end of the district rivalry between them and celina. Very sad, after 40 great years

i think west/hillsboro and the immediate area will stay in region 2, not move to R3

SpeedOption
01-28-2008, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by charlesrixey
could pilot point really move back down?

if so, that would probably signal the end of the district rivalry between them and celina. Very sad, after 40 great years


Very sad days at the Point. mM how things have changed.

NastySlot
01-28-2008, 02:55 PM
thats pretty good...but i could see changes in districts 25,26 and 27....such as switch llano and wimberley....travel easier for llano to burnet, lh and austin........wimberley to 26....and take medina valley out of 26 and put into 27....again travel to most of those other towns is a lot shorter.....but hey good job.....you really give us all a good idea of what the numbers turned were.

old warrior
01-28-2008, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Matthew328
Clifton is a possible move up but a lot depends on how high the 3A cut is

no chance

Clifton turned in 350's

don't believe all the numbers posted on The Old Coach

Astrosdawg07
01-28-2008, 07:44 PM
I guess Kirbyville will be dropping too 2A?