Thump Thump Rankings

[eagles_victory]

Boys

1. Princeton (19-2)
2. Argyle (23-2)
3. Hardin-Jefferson (23-3)
4. Dallas Roosevelt (12-7)
5. West Oso (16-6)
6. LaVernia (19-1)
7. Navasota (13-2)
8. Kennedale (18-4)
9. Tyler Chapel Hill (19-7)
10. Pittsburg (13-6)
11. Brownfield (14-6)
12. Abilene Wylie (17-5)
13. Perryton (17-4)
14. Glen Rose (16-3)
15. San Diego (22-1)
16. Madisonville (18-2)
17. Burkburnett (19-5)
18. Gatesville (18-4)
19. Gonzales (10-13)
20. Crockett (17-3)


Girls

1
Canyon
18-3

2
Llano
25-1

3
Kennedale
18-4

4
West Oso
22-0

5
Navasota
25-3

6
Princeton
17-3

7
Dallas Roosevelt
14-6

8
Fairfield
21-1

9
Lubbock Cooper
19-8

10
Frisco Wakeland
20-4

11
Levelland
17-7

12
Nevada Community
23-2

13
LaGrange
20-5

14
Orangefield
16-9

15
Argyle
16-7

16
Dalhart
20-3

17
Diboll
17-8

18
Bullard
20-4

19
Lytle
13-5

20
Silsbee
15-8

[HippoBaseball05]

How is Gonzales ranked at 10-13?

[Johnny Utah]

Played a very tough schedule. Everyone returns from a Regional Finalist team. Dont let records fool you.

[HippoBaseball05]

I guess seeing them go 0-4 in our tourney just warped my sense of perception.

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by Johnny Utah
Played a very tough schedule. Everyone returns from a Regional Finalist team. Dont let records fool you. in the jv league that is region 4. Crockett who is 1 spot behind them runs them right out of the gym I guarantee it.

[Sweetwater Red]

Canyon's girls team could beat half those teams listed on the
boys poll.:thinking: :D :devil:

[buff4life]

Hutto looked really good...what is their record and how are they not ranked?

[HippoBaseball05]

I'm not exactly sure on how we did over the Christmas break tourney in Gatesville but it was apparently brutal. Gatesville had some quality 3A and 4A schools show up.

We are somewhere around 18-6 and 1-0 in district after winning L.H. last Friday night.

[HippoBaseball05]

Just found out that we are actually 19-6 on the season with victories over Gonzales, 4A Austin Travis, and then over previously ranked Waco Connally.

Of our 6 losses, two were to #18 Gatesville,

[iknoweverything]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
in the jv league that is region 4. Crockett who is 1 spot behind them runs them right out of the gym I guarantee it.

reg IV is not a jv league in basketball only football. Gonzales is for real.

[Johnny Utah]

Nice to get move ins MR. Hippo!! Good luck.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Johnny Utah
Nice to get move ins MR. Hippo!! Good luck.

they did get quite a few:thinking:

[NastySlot]

Gonzales:::my guess.......1: it's a misprint...doubt it........2: they made a pretty good run into the football playoffs and they might have had a lot of guys still in football.....also....i think they play a very tough schedule.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by NastySlot
Gonzales:::my guess.......1: it's a misprint...doubt it........2: they made a pretty good run into the football playoffs and they might have had a lot of guys still in football.....also....i think they play a very tough schedule.

i was thinking its prolly 10-3 not 13

[Johnny Utah]

Their record is legit, 10-13. Deep run in football, injuries and tough schedule.

[NastySlot]

also i never figure out why people think region 3 is such a weak football region in all classification........region III was tough?.....liberty hill walked through that region on the way to the title.........so one very strong team makes a region tough.....region iv has cuero, hondo, wimberley and few others with good coaches and some with good athletes and still some others with good tradition............pleasanton got what the teams in region III got from liberty hill........but pleasanton plays with and might even beat another team from III.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by NastySlot
also i never figure out why people think region 3 is such a weak football region in all classification........region III was tough?.....liberty hill walked through that region on the way to the title.........so one very strong team makes a region tough.....region iv has cuero, hondo, wimberley and few others with good coaches and some with good athletes and still some others with good tradition............pleasanton got what the teams in region III got from liberty hill........but pleasanton plays with and might even beat another team from III.

we dont think region III is weak, we think its superior :D

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by iknoweverything
reg IV is not a jv league in basketball only football. Gonzales is for real. Look at region 4s record in the state tournament over the last ten years and there is your answer

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
we dont think region III is weak, we think its superior :D


mistyped that should have been region IV. why do people think region IV so weak on all classes........we say Liberty Hill didn't win a state title until they got into a weaker region and they ran through it fairly easily.....right..............or we could say region III best talent in region with the TEAMS? that do less???????if you look at it there only few teams that dominate in region.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by NastySlot
mistyped that should have been region IV. why do people think region IV so weak on all classes........we say Liberty Hill didn't win a state title until they got into a weaker region and they ran through it fairly easily.....right..............or we could say region III best talent in region with the TEAMS? that do less???????if you look at it there only few teams that dominate in region.

i'd just ignore the "region iv is weak" talk and chalk it up to bc :thumbsup:

[Mace Griffin]

I remember my days in Texas I guess much hasnt changed about Region 4 since then.

[HippoBaseball05]

Originally posted by Johnny Utah
Nice to get move ins MR. Hippo!! Good luck.


We have two young men that were move-ins on our roster. I think the dramatic improvement has more to do with the hard work on the new style Coach Blake has implemented.


We graduated a lot more talent than we have replaced it with this year.

[JR2004]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
Look at region 4s record in the state tournament over the last ten years and there is your answer

Personally I'd rather just see the best runner-up from Region II or III get put in the state tournament over a region IV school in basketball. They have exactly one win in Austin since 1996 and that came against Dimmitt (West Oso won 45-21) which easily fielded the worst team I've ever seen down there since I started going back in 1996. That opinion would change though if Sam Houston drops. They'd have one legit basketball school that could win a state title in the region and they wouldn't get destroyed every single year in Austin with a representative like that.

Sinton y'all still have bragging rights on being the last Region IV team to win a state title from the region. I wonder if it'll get to the point where guys from the 96 team wind up like the old Dolphins and have a toast every year when the region IV team gets beat in Austin. :)

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by JR2004
Personally I'd rather just see the best runner-up from Region II or III get put in the state tournament over a region IV school in basketball. They have exactly one win in Austin since 1996 and that came against Dimmitt (West Oso won 45-21) which easily fielded the worst team I've ever seen down there since I started going back in 1996. That opinion would change though if Sam Houston drops. They'd have one legit basketball school that could win a state title in the region and they wouldn't get destroyed every single year in Austin with a representative like that.

Sinton y'all still have bragging rights on being the last Region IV team to win a state title from the region. I wonder if it'll get to the point where guys from the 96 team wind up like the old Dolphins and have a toast every year when the region IV team gets beat in Austin. :) Mexia blasted that West Oso team in the championship that year.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by JR2004
Sinton y'all still have bragging rights on being the last Region IV team to win a state title from the region. I wonder if it'll get to the point where guys from the 96 team wind up like the old Dolphins and have a toast every year when the region IV team gets beat in Austin. :) hahaha doubtful. I don't even know who this team played or what the scores were. :doh: Have I mentioned that I don't like basketball? :D

[JR2004]

Originally posted by pirate4state
hahaha doubtful. I don't even know who this team played or what the scores were. :doh: Have I mentioned that I don't like basketball? :D

Once or twice I believe you've mentioned that...lol. They beat GRAHAM 73-66. I'm sure that makes you happy that they beat GRAHAM. :)

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by pirate4state
hahaha doubtful. I don't even know who this team played or what the scores were. :doh: Have I mentioned that I don't like basketball? :D :D That year Sinton had stiffer competition in their region :D

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by NastySlot
mistyped that should have been region IV. why do people think region IV so weak on all classes........we say Liberty Hill didn't win a state title until they got into a weaker region and they ran through it fairly easily.....right..............or we could say region III best talent in region with the TEAMS? that do less???????if you look at it there only few teams that dominate in region. Teams I can think of from Reg. IV that have had success in the past handful of years...Cuero (as always), Wimberly (hit or miss at best) Hondo (usually decent) Bandera (had a run) Sinton (had a handful of good years) other than that...Reg. IV is not that great. The valley is weak, and this side of Port Isabel doesn't usually make much noise in the playoffs. Reg. III has the likes of Liberty Hill, the Waco schools, i.e. Robinson, Connally, Cameron Yoe (in years past), Madisonville, Palestine, Diboll, Crockett, Carthage, WOS, Jasper, Coldspring, Giddings, Caldwell, Navasota, Bellville, La Grange, Sealy, etc. Reg. III as a whole, over the years is historically tougher than Reg. IV any way you look at it in my opinion.

PS...I was talking football of course...basketball I haven't the slightest.

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
Teams I can think of from Reg. IV that have had success in the past handful of years...Cuero (as always), Wimberly (hit or miss at best) Hondo (usually decent) Bandera (had a run) Sinton (had a handful of good years) other than that...Reg. IV is not that great. The valley is weak, and this side of Port Isabel doesn't usually make much noise in the playoffs. Reg. III has the likes of Liberty Hill, the Waco schools, i.e. Robinson, Connally, Cameron Yoe (in years past), Madisonville, Palestine, Diboll, Crockett, Carthage, WOS, Jasper, Coldspring, Giddings, Caldwell, Navasota, Bellville, La Grange, Sealy, etc. Reg. III as a whole, over the years is historically tougher than Reg. IV any way you look at it in my opinion.

PS...I was talking football of course...basketball I haven't the slightest. its even worse in hoops

[Johnny Utah]

I am throwing my 2 cents in.. Region 3 won state last year in hoops. Region 2 has a team in Princeton that is ranked #1 this year. When Rockdale was very good in the mid 90's they would make the playoffs in region 3 and get beat by Navasota in round 1(Nav won state in 90), beat by Woodville in 92(Woodville went to state tourney). In 95 and 96 Rockdale was in REGION 4... the only 2 years the Rock was in that region. Rockdale went to STATE!!! Beat by the eventual State Champ in the semis(Clarksville from region 2). Rockdale beat Sinton in the regional semis and beat Luling in regional final. In track had a few kids win the region in their respective events, one went on to be a state champ in the 300 hurdles. Region 2 and 3 are the toughest. Region 4 is tough, but no where near 2 and 3 in my opinion in hoops. In 97 Rockdale went back to region 3, lost to Crockett in area.

[kaorder1999]

I knew Princeton would be pretty good this year!

[NastySlot]

they have been pretty good for a while......helps to have straight b-ball players and son's of coaches........they also had at one time a good foreign exchange student.. they are also very well coached.

[Mace Griffin]

Originally posted by NastySlot
they have been pretty good for a while......helps to have straight b-ball players and son's of coaches........they also had at one time a good foreign exchange student.. they are also very well coached. IMO Argyle is better then Princeton

[Johnny Utah]

Most great programs have kids of coaches playing, no matter the sport. Princeton is heck on wheels as is Argyle. Reggie Sain got a raw deal there, but that is a total other thread. Good luck to all.

[firstdown]

Originally posted by Johnny Utah
Most great programs have kids of coaches playing, no matter the sport. Princeton is heck on wheels as is Argyle. Reggie Sain got a raw deal there, but that is a total other thread. Good luck to all.

Reggie did not get a raw deal. You have to learn to work in the program and Coach Sain never did. The program needed a change and I believe Coach King was the right choice. BTW there are no coaches sons on the Argyly Varsity team.

[maestro]

rice consol. is really struggling this year....

[Johnny Utah]

That is your opinion and I have mine. Coach King is a heck of a coach as well, and so is Coach Sain. Argyle is loaded. I was referring to PRINCETON my man!!! And... when Liberty HIll made their runs to regional the head coaches son was a PLAYER!!! Helps to have coaches kids playing that are GOOD no matter the sport.

[NastySlot]

my comment about coaches was in reference to having a starting lineup of coaches kids..which helps a lot.

[Johnny Utah]

Nasty, I concur. Look at the Rockdale Tigers. Two starters are sons of Coaches, one is the head boys coaches son, the other the head girls coaches son. Makes a big, well, HUGE difference in my opinion.l

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by Johnny Utah
Nasty, I concur. Look at the Rockdale Tigers. Two starters are sons of Coaches, one is the head boys coaches son, the other the head girls coaches son. Makes a big, well, HUGE difference in my opinion.l The Earp kids from Crockett were a good example of that they were coaches kids who grew up in the gym.

[Johnny Utah]

Coach White's boys from Wimberley could hoop and made that team very salty a few years ago.

[AP Panther Fan]

I am thinking West Oso should be ranked higher....we played them tonight.;)

Nasty and Johnny Utah, I also concur, coaches sons are a huge asset, they have been eating, sleeping and breathing it since they were probably two. I know this from watching our coach and both of his sons, going to the final four previously. When other kids were going home as kids to play Nintendo, his were going to watch practices at the high school.

Yes, we have always been the bridesmaid and never the bride, but it takes alot to get there. Not only were his kids exceptional, he has a knack for making others rise above (we went last year with no sons on the team), but they (his kids) were definately a huge plus... as are his coaching skills.
:)

[eagles_victory]

Boys

1. Princeton (21-2)
2. Argyle (25-2)
3. Hardin-Jefferson (25-3)
4. Dallas Roosevelt (13-7)
5. West Oso (18-6)
6. LaVernia (21-1)
7. Navasota (15-2)
8. Kennedale (20-4)
9. Pittsburg (15-6)
10. Brownfield (16-6)
11. Abilene Wylie (20-5)
12. Perryton (18-4)
13. Burkburnett (21-5)
14. San Diego (23-1)
15. Madisonville (20-2)
16. Glen Rose (17-4)
17. Gatesville (19-4)
18. Gonzales (11-13)
19. Crockett (19-3)
20. Tyler Chapel Hill (20-8)


Girls


1
Canyon
20-3

2
Llano
27-1

3
Kennedale
20-4

4
West Oso
25-0

5
Navasota
27-3

6
Dallas Roosevelt
19-6,

7
Fairfield
24-1

8
Lubbock Cooper
21-8

9
Frisco Wakeland
23-4

10
Princeton
19-4

11
Levelland
18-8

12
Nevada Community
24-2

13
Orangefield
18-9

14
Argyle
18-7

15
Bowie
23-7

16
Dalhart
22-3

17
Diboll
19-8

18
Bullard
22-4

19
Lytle
21-6

20
La Vernia
17-10

[Mace Griffin]

not too much of a change im definitely missing watching Texas High School hoops its just not the same up North

[Johnny Utah]

Princetons starting lineup has 3 coaches sons in it!!!

[Fal44]

Rankings should change a little bit, after all we did beat san diego tonight!

[sotxrat]

congrats Fal44, i am guessing that this game was played in Fal. Also, are you back to playing after dislocating your shoulder?

[Fal44]

Yes Sir I am back playing, and it also was played in fal... they need to lose a game to either zapata or raymondville for a 1st place playoff....Ill be wishing to the basketball gods :D

[sotxrat]

I am glad you are back on the court, and I wish you and your team well in the playoffs, maybe OG and Fal will meet down the road

[waterboy]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
we dont think region III is weak, we think its superior :D
Region III will be superior next year and the year after, too.:D

[PurplePride2006]

There's No Way Perryton Should Be #13....They're 1-3 In District

[Gontex]

I wouldn't get too caught up in rankings. They really are good for nothing except creating discussions like this one. Last year, two of the four teams in 3A that went to state were never ranked. The number one team all year was taken out in the regional semis by that same Gonzales team everyone seems to be so concerned about being ranked in the top 20 with a 16-13 record. Yes that's right, 16-13. Of course they played their November schedule and half of the December schedule with John Scott, the JV and a couple of freshmen. Basically took on all comers playing 4A and 5A competition. 8 players were on the football team with most of those guys being capable of stepping in and starting. Aransas Pass was the region 4 rep last year. They beat Gonzales in the regional finals played in Kingsville. I'm sure that the 42-13 difference in AP's favor in free throws had absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of the game.