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Snyder_TigerFan
12-18-2007, 05:23 PM
I didn't think this was coming out until tomorrow....but I found this:http://www.news-journal.com/news/content/gen/ap/FBH_3A_All_State_List.html

Class 3A all-state football team
By The Associated Press

The 2007 Class 3A All-State high school football team, released Tuesday, as voted on by The Associated Press Sports Editors based on regular-season performance. Players are listed in alphabetical order at each position.

FIRST-TEAM OFFENSE:

OFFENSIVE LINE:

TIM MATHERNE, West Orange-Stark, Sr., Top OL for team that rushed for 3,000-plus yards

TYLER METHVIN, Vernon, Sr., 87 knockdowns. 9-1 team rushed for 282 ypg.

DANIEL SAMIA, Snyder, Jr., Grade 80 pct, played only 7 games, 63 knockdowns, 11 pancakes

ADAM THOMAS, Celina, Sr., 41 pancakes, graded out at 96 percent

BRACK WEMPA, Royse City, Jr., 52 pancakes, no sacks allowed in 303 pass attempts.

ENDS/RECEIVERS:

ANDREW DELGADO, Lyford, Sr., 67 catches, 1,187 yards, 21 TDs

HOUSTON TUMINELLO, Gilmer, Sr., 52 catches, 748 yards, 11 TDs; committed to La. Tech

QUARTERBACK:

RICHARD MORRISON, Royse City, Jr., Passed for 2,897 yds, 30 TDs; ran for 267 yds, 9 TDs

RUNNING BACKS:

JERMIE CALHOUN, Van, Sr., 1,908 yards rushing, 30 TDs; threw for 804 yards, 4 TDs; committed to Oklahoma

WILL CLAY, Snyder, Sr, 2,057 yds rushing, 28 TDs

CHRIS WHALEY, Madisonville, Jr., 2,119 yards rushing, 28 TDs; 3 receiving TDs

KICKER:

CLAYTON REESE, Texarkana Pleasant Grove, Sr., 10-13 FGs (long 40); 17 of 17 PATs

OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: Jermie Calhoun, Van

___

FIRST-TEAM DEFENSE:

LINEMEN (two tied):

JOSEPH ALLSUP, Lytle, Sr., 119 tackles (89 solo), 11 sacks in 8 games

TROY FRANKLIN, Celina, Sr., 52 tackles (24 solo), 4 sacks; committed to North Texas

ALONZO GARZA, Rio Hondo, Jr., 75 total tackles, 13 sacks, 4 fumble recoveries, 3 forced fumbles, 2 blocked punts

BRECK HOLMAN, Celina, Sr., 52 tackles (35 solo), 8 sacks, 2 fumble returns for TDs

LUIS PERAZA, Hidalgo, Sr., 88 total tackles, 11 sacks, 4 FF, 3 FR

LINEBACKERS:

AARON BUCKLEY, Palacios, Sr., 115 tackles, 11 sacks, 8 FF, 15 PR; committed to Texas A&M

RYAN EPPERSON, Brownsboro, Sr., 168 tackles, INT, 3 FR, 3 FF

ALONZO WHALEY, Madisonville, Sr., 162 tackles, 8 FF, 5 FR, INT for TD

BACKS:

MARK FARMER, Pittsburg, Sr. 47 tackles; 7 INT, two returned for TDs, honorable mention WR

COREY LEE, Andrews, Sr., 10 INT, 26 tackles for 8-2 team

D'ANTON LYNN, Celina, Sr., 60 tackles (37 solo), 5 INT; committed to Penn State

TREY RAUSCHECK, Navasota, Sr., 134 tackles, 64 solo, 10 for loss, 4 INT, 1 FR, 2 FF, 8 PBUs

PUNTER:

NICK BAKER, Fairfield, Sr., 46.5 yard average

DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR:

AARON BUCKLEY, Palacios

___

SECOND-TEAM OFFENSE:

LINEMEN:

Joe Garza, Snyder, Sr.; James Huff, Clyde, Sr.; Chase Maldonado, Vernon, Sr.; C.J. Nielson, Celina, Sr.; Josue Vasquez, Rio Hondo, Sr.

ENDS/RECEIVERS:

Brady Brown, Argyle, Jr.; James Kilpatrick, Bridgeport, Sr.

QUARTERBACK (tie)

Brock Fitzhenry, Giddings, Sr.; JJ Harp, Argyle, Sr.

RUNNING BACKS:

Justin Johnson, Gilmer, Sr.; Dexter Pratt, Navasota, Jr.; Henry Solis, Palacios, Sr.

KICKER:

Marcos Rodriguez, Mineola

SECOND-TEAM DEFENSE:

LINEMEN:

Anthony Aguilar, Clint, Sr.; Jim Guinn, Graham, Sr.; Kaeron Johnson, Cuero, Sr.; Colby Smith, Clyde, Jr.

LINEBACKERS (three tied):

Clay Anthony, Monahans, Sr.; Will Henry, Waco LaVega, Sr.; Clay Hirt, Snyder, Jr.; Oscar Hernandez, Royse City, Jr.; Trevor Sparks, Graham, Sr.

BACKS:

Austen Brewer, Wills Point, Sr.; Mark Lentz, Lytle, Sr.; Justin Rogers, Royse City, Jr.; Garrett Simper, Gonzales, Sr.

PUNTER:

Clay Anthony, Monahans, Sr.

___

HONORABLE MENTION OFFENSE:

LINEMEN:

Ben Butler, Graham; Brandon Carrico, Mabank; Michael Charron, Kennedale; Danny "Junior" Frazier, Sweetwater; Tyler Hunt, Burkburnett; Brennan Johnson, Athens; Chris Ramirez, Sweetwater; Ryan Rumbelow, Bullard

ENDS/RECEIVERS:

Cody Burton, Gonzales; Ronnie Dennis, West Orange-Stark; Ryan Dockery, La Grange; Mark Farmer, Pittsburg; Carlos Gallegos, Royse City; Matt Handler, Argyle; Hunter Harris, Glen Rose; Mike Hicks, China Spring; Brandal Jackson, Navasota; Kaeron Johnson, Cuero; Blane Knipe, Snyder

QUARTERBACKS:

Colton Browning, Mabank; Gralyn Crawford, Palestine Westwood; Lance Day, Snyder; Dustin Eskew, China Spring; Johnny Esparza, Lyford; Darian Godfrey, Gilmer; Cameron Green, Bridgeport; Vincent McNeil, Dallas Roosevelt; Niko Salinas, Pleasanton

RUNNING BACKS:

Doug Allman, Liberty Hill; Gavan Bass, Fairfield; Xavier Canto, Caldwell; Auston Davis, Sweetwater; DePauldrick Garrett, West Orange-Stark; Bryce Golightly, Levelland; Dustin Gonzales, Liberty Hill; Francisco Jacquez, Fort Stockton; LaMichael James, Texarkana Liberty-Eylau; Cory Jones, Mineola; Clayton Joping, Lytle; Curtis Kevil, Clyde; Jacob Martinez, Rio Hondo; D.J. Morrow, Palestine Westwood; Nolan Nunez, Port Isabel; Moses Rodriguez, Poteet; Matthew Tucker, Tyler Chapel Hill; Charley Waldrep, Celina; Craig Whiteside, Vernon; Quincy Whittington, Cuero

KICKER:

Logan Barrett, Kennedale; Grant Schur, Vernon; Jacob Williams, Whitesboro

HONORABLE MENTION DEFENSE:

LINEMEN:

Keifer Adamez, Sweetwater; Kyle Echols, Vernon; Willie Gordon, Bullard; Winston Jones, Vernon; Marshall Lambrecht, Gonzales; Max Torres, Sweetwater

LINEBACKERS:

Michael Bigelow, Waco LaVega; Zack Bracken, Bridgeport; Carlos Brown, Pittsburg; Alex Buckley, Palacios; Matt Burton, Whitesboro; Eugene Castillo, Navasota; Jagared Davis, Crockett; Steven Fields, Sweetwater; Kerry Gamble, Athens; Nic Hammett, Rockdale; Kennard Henderson, Texarkana Pleasant Grove; Adrian Jamie, Rio Hondo; Charles Jones, Texarkana Liberty-Eylau; Caleb Lavey, Celina; Wes Liles, Clyde; Rufus McCann, Sweetwater; Tanner Parker, Clyde; Steve Piazza, Lytle

BACKS:

Brent Bollinger, Snyder; Zack Bracken, Bridgeport; C.J. Broades, Texarkana Pleasant Grove; Tracy Cooper, Crockett; Ray Daniels, Vernon; Shane Eizember, Rio Hondo; DheRyan Jackson, Athens; J.J. McCoy, Sweetwater; Kenneth Norman, Sweetwater; Kenneth Turner, Snyder; Aaron Weitner, Vernon; Quincy Whittington, Cuero; Kendall Wright, Pittsburg

PUNTER:

Lance Day, Snyder

kepdawg
12-18-2007, 05:27 PM
Let the :bigcry: begin!

Adidas410s
12-18-2007, 05:28 PM
looks like another status quo year for Abilene Wylie. 12-2 record...another trip deep into the playoffs...an offense that averages over 35 points a game...no players named all-state. Just the way we like it! :)

Adidas410s
12-18-2007, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by kepdawg
Let the :bigcry: begin!

from my limited view this year...I think the first team list looks pretty accurate. Of course some people will want Johnson from Gilmer as a 1st-team RB...but you can't really make a strong case why he's above any of the guys that are first team.

clemsmarina
12-18-2007, 05:41 PM
Just wondering....who does the voting? :thinking:

Nevermind, I see it's the AP Editors. Enough said!!!:rolleyes:

navscanmaster
12-18-2007, 05:47 PM
Two things shock me:

Dustin Eskew, China Spring - Honorable mention - Over 3000 yards passing, 36 TD to 6 INT. Seems like a pretty darn good year to me.
Trey Rauschek, Navasota - First Team - Nevermind the kid is just a flat out good defender, a Rattler defender made first team all state! Who would have seen that coming?

Runnin Panther
12-18-2007, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Adidas410s
looks like another status quo year for Abilene Wylie. 12-2 record...another trip deep into the playoffs...an offense that averages over 35 points a game...no players named all-state. Just the way we like it! :)

Your right it is a joke. Liberty Hill had 3 kids make All State last year, Lattimore LB, Marlow DE and Allman RB.

This year Allman and Gonzales make honorable mention.

I guess those guys were not as good this year as they were last year. :hand: :hand:

coach
12-18-2007, 05:57 PM
congrats to all but i want to send a special congrats to gavin bass of fairfield he was on a bad team but stood out he was literally a diamond in the rough

3afan
12-18-2007, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Adidas410s
looks like another status quo year for Abilene Wylie. 12-2 record...another trip deep into the playoffs...an offense that averages over 35 points a game...no players named all-state. Just the way we like it! :)

you know who to "blame"! :D

3afan
12-18-2007, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Runnin Panther
Your right it is a joke. Liberty Hill had 3 kids make All State last year, Lattimore LB, Marlow DE and Allman RB.

This year Allman and Gonzales make honorable mention.

I guess those guys were not as good this year as they were last year. :hand: :hand:

you know who to "blame"! :D

Pmoney
12-18-2007, 06:18 PM
well the stats are wrong....Clay had 3,167 yds and 42 TDs and Samia played all 15 games

Sweetwater Red
12-18-2007, 06:23 PM
The one that I thought might make it for Sweetwater did. That
being Jr. Rufus McCann.:clap:


Clay Hirt is only a Jr.:eek:

It seems like he's been playing for 5 years already.:D

lynx_rufus
12-18-2007, 06:29 PM
Congratulations to the seven young men from Celina.

ronwx5x
12-18-2007, 06:32 PM
Seem to be missing last year's defensive player of the year, Alan Dock, LB, Giddings?

big daddy russ
12-18-2007, 06:39 PM
For everyone who didn't realize it, playoffs don't count in the AP All-State polls. Those are Will Clay's regular season numbers.

Also, I don't understand the whole process, but I know there's a lot that goes into it that most don't understand. I believe the coaches MUST submit all of a player's stats for that player to be considered. This poll is based on this year's production (the numbers they put up) first and foremost and their recommendations and apparent dominance second.

If your player isn't on here, it might not be these guys' faults at all. Not a single Ingleside player is on here and we have a few kids going on to play college ball. Doesn't mean it's the editors' faults for not putting any of them on there, because an editor in Amarillo is unlikely to know much about a kid down in the Valley outside of their stats (and sometimes college committments). That's the only constant, so that's what they go on.

SNYDER325TIGERS
12-18-2007, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Pmoney
well the stats are wrong....Clay had 3,167 yds and 42 TDs and Samia played all 15 games



Yea thats what I was about to bring up.


And Justin Johnson(Gilmer) made second team and he's going to OU.

Thats crazy when Will Clay makes 1st team. I don't know were Will will end up at:thinking: I heard A&M from a cousin but dont know

SNYDER325TIGERS
12-18-2007, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Sweetwater Red



Clay Hirt is only a Jr.:eek:







Yea, but he has an older brother that graduated 2 years ago I think.

lynx_rufus
12-18-2007, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
Yea thats what I was about to bring up. . . .
Don't forget young gun that this is only based upon the regular season performances.

SNYDER325TIGERS
12-18-2007, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by lynx_rufus
Don't forget young gun that this is only based upon the regular season performances.

Yea I know. I had already posted that then I seen what the deal was.

SNYDER325TIGERS
12-18-2007, 08:05 PM
Argyles kicker: Ben Parks should be 1st team punter/kicker!

Centextrash
12-18-2007, 09:02 PM
This is a joke...

Where are the Gilmer Lineman?
Where is ANYONE off of Liberty Hill's Defense?
Where is Dock?
Where is either one of the Parr brothers?
Where is ANYONE from Abilene Wylie?

SNYDER325TIGERS
12-18-2007, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Centextrash
This is a joke...

Where are the Gilmer Lineman?
Where is ANYONE off of Liberty Hill's Defense?
Where is Dock?
Where is either one of the Parr brothers?
Where is ANYONE from Abilene Wylie?



Well I don't guess they made it.

WylieBulldog92
12-18-2007, 10:03 PM
I'm sorry for Liberty Hill if they hadn't made or won state, they might be here with Wylie...

bobcat1
12-18-2007, 10:13 PM
Congrats to all that made the list and their supporting cast including team mates, coaches, parents and fans that helped them achieve this honor. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Daddy D 11
12-18-2007, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Centextrash
This is a joke...

Where are the Gilmer Lineman?
Where is ANYONE off of Liberty Hill's Defense?
Where is Dock?
Where is either one of the Parr brothers?
Where is ANYONE from Abilene Wylie?

agreed

alaskacat
12-18-2007, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by navscanmaster
Two things shock me:

Dustin Eskew, China Spring - Honorable mention - Over 3000 yards passing, 36 TD to 6 INT. Seems like a pretty darn good year to me.
Trey Rauschek, Navasota - First Team - Nevermind the kid is just a flat out good defender, a Rattler defender made first team all state! Who would have seen that coming?

I thought the McNeil kid from Roosevelt was better than the 1st Team QB...definitely better than Gilmers

NDFootball
12-18-2007, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by Adidas410s
looks like another status quo year for Abilene Wylie. 12-2 record...another trip deep into the playoffs...an offense that averages over 35 points a game...no players named all-state. Just the way we like it! :)

dang right:D

bandera7
12-18-2007, 11:46 PM
...I dont understand how the Bandera RB Franklin Brown was not on there. Maybe his stats werent good enough, but you can ask any who played against him. He was a game breaker and an outstanding player...

dogdad
12-19-2007, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by alaskacat
I thought the McNeil kid from Roosevelt was better than the 1st Team QB...definitely better than Gilmers

really?
and how many times did you watch those 3 this year?

cat_eyes76
12-19-2007, 01:59 AM
:clap: Congratultions to all the players listed and to the ones that weren't but that we all know deserve mention for an outstanding season.

Txbroadcaster
12-19-2007, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by dogdad
really?
and how many times did you watch those 3 this year?

I watched all 3. and I think McNeil was the best out of the three..Him and Morrison were 1 and 1A, but I like Vincent more because of his mobility

3afan
12-19-2007, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by Centextrash
This is a joke...

Where are the Gilmer Lineman?
Where is ANYONE off of Liberty Hill's Defense?
Where is Dock?
Where is either one of the Parr brothers?
Where is ANYONE from Abilene Wylie?

you know who to "blame"! :D

(or maybe you really don't ....)

buff4ever
12-19-2007, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by ronwx5x
Seem to be missing last year's defensive player of the year, Alan Dock, LB, Giddings?

That is exactly what I was thinking, but didn't want to look like I am on here crying:D

He was hurt at the end of the year, but was still outstanding all y year including when he was injured. He deserved to be on their somewhere.

Aesculus gilmus
12-19-2007, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by alaskacat
I thought the McNeil kid from Roosevelt was better than the 1st Team QB...definitely better than Gilmers

Gotta agree with this. Stump did well for a sophomore, but he's not in McNeil's league yet.

Head-to-head, Vincent McNeil Jr. made Richard Morrison look like he was still playing Pop Warner ball by comparison.

But, as others have said, it's based on the regular season.

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 09:16 AM
those honors have alot of surprises in them, there is alot of WTH's?

Texasfootball2
12-19-2007, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Daddy D 11
those honors have alot of surprises in them, there is alot of WTH's?

One thing to remember is the AP team is voted by the press and not the coaches. Often teams that go deep into the playoffs are overlooked. My opinion is because while the coaches of these teams are focused on winning games still, the coaches of those teams not in the playoffs or of teams who loose in the first round are sitting around pumping resume's full of stats to the press. Also teams like Liberty Hill and Abilene Wylie will have 4 or 5 kids that rush for 600+ yards instead of one kid rush for 2000+. The press is impressed by stats. I am surprised that LH didn't have more defensive players make it though.

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 09:33 AM
thats what i was surprised most about. last year i believe we had 2 defensive all staters on the first and second team and this year we came up empty? and they had tremendously better years, stats wise and impressive wise if thats a proper way to put it?

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 09:34 AM
but hey, im not upset, just a little confused. its all gravy though, we are right hand heavy and thats fine with us :D

Hill Man
12-19-2007, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Texasfootball2
One thing to remember is the AP team is voted by the press and not the coaches. Often teams that go deep into the playoffs are overlooked. My opinion is because while the coaches of these teams are focused on winning games still, the coaches of those teams not in the playoffs or of teams who loose in the first round are sitting around pumping resume's full of stats to the press. Also teams like Liberty Hill and Abilene Wylie will have 4 or 5 kids that rush for 600+ yards instead of one kid rush for 2000+. The press is impressed by stats. I am surprised that LH didn't have more defensive players make it though.

LH had one over 2000 yds (Gonzales) and another just under (Alman), plus three more that combined were at least 1500. But what surprises me the most was the deletion of Marlowe Poitier at LH on D-line.. he had a huge season and playoff run as a disruptive force especially on pass rush… even better than last year when he made the all-state list. When does a coaches poll come out? Or does it? Come on.. not even an honorable mention??

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 09:45 AM
howd the boys do last night hill man?

Hill Man
12-19-2007, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by Daddy D 11
howd the boys do last night hill man?

losy by 6 -- too many turn overs and trying too many outside shoots without working it in by all... something is not klicking yet with this team.

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 09:50 AM
dang. La Vega is a pretty good squad from what i hear though. and they will click, they are playing a gauntlet of a scuedule right now.

Texasfootball2
12-19-2007, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Hill Man
LH had one over 2000 yds (Gonzales) and another just under (Alman), plus three more that combined were at least 1500. But what surprises me the most was the deletion of Marlowe Poitier at LH on D-line.. he had a huge season and playoff run as a disruptive force especially on pass rush… even better than last year when he made the all-state list. When does a coaches poll come out? Or does it? Come on.. not even an honorable mention??

This actually makes the poll that much more silly:D

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by Texasfootball2
This actually makes the poll that much more silly:D
how so?

Old Tiger
12-19-2007, 10:05 AM
This list is crap.

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Go Blue
This list is crap.

word. there are alot of what the hells right?? and im not even being a LH homer, like i posted earlier: Where is dock? where is a lineman from Gilmer? where are the pratt brothers? and charly waldrep from celina is for damn sure better than HM.

Hill Man
12-19-2007, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Texasfootball2
This actually makes the poll that much more silly:D
sad mostly... I am sure there are dozens are deserving but didn't make it like Marlowe... Just sad for them not to get some recognition on a state level that they deserve after making an impact that is worthly... I guess when you only have some many slots to fill you can't name them all.......

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Hill Man
sad mostly... I am sure there are dozens are deserving but didn't make it like Marlowe... Just sad for them not to get some recognition on a state level that they deserve after making an impact that is worthly... I guess when you only have some many slots to fill you can't name them all.......

true. there is always going to be names left out. but there seems to be more in this years addition than last. 2006 they seemed to nail right on the head.

Runnin Panther
12-19-2007, 10:16 AM
In my mind there can on be one of two things that caused LH not to have some of our players make 1st or 2nd team all state.
1. Coach Vance was to busy winning another state championship and did not submit LH player stats.
2. Austin American Statesman who should be pushing for local kids to make it did not support LH kids.

Thats my guess anyway.

LH Panther Mom
12-19-2007, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Runnin Panther
In my mind there can on be one of two things that caused LH not to have some of our players make 1st or 2nd team all state.
1. Coach Vance was to busy winning another state championship and did not submit LH player stats.
2. Austin American Statesman who should be pushing for local kids to make it did not support LH kids.

Thats my guess anyway.
1. IMO, he was no less busy this year than last, so I'd be surprised if that was it.
2. No comment :eek:

DUKE22
12-19-2007, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Go Blue
This list is crap. Ok then you post yours so it can be official.

Old Tiger
12-19-2007, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by DUKE22
Ok then you post yours so it can be official. I never said I could compose a list. I said this list was crap and I stand by that because a lot of great players were left off of it.

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by DUKE22
Ok then you post yours so it can be official.

it was just an opinion buddy, you post yours if you tthink its so wrong.

Hill Man
12-19-2007, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Runnin Panther
In my mind there can on be one of two things that caused LH not to have some of our players make 1st or 2nd team all state.
1. Coach Vance was to busy winning another state championship and did not submit LH player stats.
2. Austin American Statesman who should be pushing for local kids to make it did not support LH kids.

Thats my guess anyway.

The AAS not pushing LH is a given...we always get just limited attention durring the season and only then if we win state. That was a nice pic of Coach and the boys after the game on the front half of Sports section however It always seems we are the second cousins to the 4a and 5a area schools when it comes to attention no mater the success through out the season.. This year or last...

Hill Man
12-19-2007, 10:26 AM
,

DUKE22
12-19-2007, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Go Blue
I never said I could compose a list. I said this list was crap and I stand by that because a lot of great players were left off of it. Hey any all state or all star type list is going to have great players left off. So let me help you, we will remove Clay, Samia, Hirt, Garza, Bollinger, Turner, and Day. There you guys have some spots to put those great players left off now.

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by DUKE22
Hey any all state or all star type list is going to have great players left off. So let me help you, we will remove Clay, Samia, Hirt, Garza, Bollinger, Turner, and Day. There you guys have some spots to put those great players left off now.

ewww, good one :rolleyes: and how about we take the rings we already have off our fingers and the ones we are getting and ship them to you:thinking:

Old Tiger
12-19-2007, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by DUKE22
Hey any all state or all star type list is going to have great players left off. So let me help you, we will remove Clay, Samia, Hirt, Garza, Bollinger, Turner, and Day. There you guys have some spots to put those great players left off now. I wasn't talking about anything Snyder but if you feel the need to remove those players you are more than welcome to.

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Go Blue
I wasn't talking about anything Snyder but if you feel the need to remove those players you are more than welcome to.

haha :clap:

DUKE22
12-19-2007, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Go Blue
I wasn't talking about anything Snyder but if you feel the need to remove those players you are more than welcome to. I just figured that what would be your intentions so come on let see go blues all state team.

DUKE22
12-19-2007, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by Daddy D 11
ewww, good one :rolleyes: and how about we take the rings we already have off our fingers and the ones we are getting and ship them to you:thinking: So what are you BLUES lawyer or just his special friend or what.

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by DUKE22
I just figured that what would be your intentions so come on let see go blues all state team.

once again he has never said he will or wants to compose a list.....he simply stated that on the list that was linked, he thought players were missing

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by DUKE22
So what are you BLUES lawyer or just his special friend or what.

ive only met him once, so friend would not sufice. and i just respond to comments that lack intelligence :)

Old Tiger
12-19-2007, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by DUKE22
I just figured that what would be your intentions so come on let see go blues all state team. You figured wrong. I barried my hatchet with snyder or whatever the saying may be. why is my list important to you? It's not my job or my profession to compose those type of list. :)

If you want to I will just for you.

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 10:53 AM
me being your lawyer and all goblue, i advise you not to:p

DaHop72
12-19-2007, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Daddy D 11
ive only met him once, so friend would not sufice. and i just respond to comments that lack intelligence :) Geez, are you 325's cousin or something?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by DaHop72
Geez, are you 325's cousin or something?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

man, you have something against me dont you dahop? and i have asked numurous times without an answer:( and no i have no relation to anyone in west texas

DaHop72
12-19-2007, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Daddy D 11
man, you have something against me dont you dahop? and i have asked numurous times without an answer:( and no i have no relation to anyone in west texas Nothing against you, you just post on every thread just like 325 does whether you seen a team play or not. I just think it's a little hard to formulate an opionion on a team when you have not seen them play.

44INAROW
12-19-2007, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Runnin Panther

2. Austin American Statesman who should be pushing for local kids to make it did not support LH kids.


Man Crush keeps popping into my head :eek: wonder why that is?

Sweetwater Red
12-19-2007, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by DUKE22
Hey any all state or all star type list is going to have great players left off. So let me help you, we will remove Clay, Samia, Hirt, Garza, Bollinger, Turner, and Day. There you guys have some spots to put those great players left off now.


Well, we all know the only reason they made it. Ya'lls sports
editor used his amazing wit and people skills to convince his
colleagues to vote for them.:thinking: :D

BMOC
12-19-2007, 11:13 AM
cogratulations to all those mentioned. Great Seasons!!!

DUKE22
12-19-2007, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Well, we all know the only reason they made it. Ya'lls sports
editor used his amazing wit and people skills to convince his
colleagues to vote for them.:thinking: :D LOL you might be right.

pirate4state
12-19-2007, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by DUKE22
LOL you might be right.

Go Blue made a list - it's a bunch of crap! :devil: :D

Old Tiger
12-19-2007, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by pirate4state
Go Blue made a list - it's a bunch of crap! :devil: :D Yes it is!

mrescape43
12-19-2007, 12:58 PM
Congrats to everyone who was selected. Sad but true, there were many deserving players around the state not chosen.

duckpluck
12-19-2007, 01:22 PM
I know all the kids on the list are deserving. Its just a shame no one from LH made it. I agree, some local sports writers probably dropped the ball on it and I am sure there a lot of Metroplex media that have votes. More so than Central Texas.

3afan
12-19-2007, 01:28 PM
actually aren't the voters the same who voted for the weekly poll? if so they are pretty much evenly spread out ...

Black_Magic
12-19-2007, 01:31 PM
Some of Go blues replacements may make the team... District 3-3A All district JV team that is;)

Snydertigersrul
12-19-2007, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by 3afan
actually aren't the voters the same who voted for the weekly poll? if so they are pretty much evenly spread out ...

NO. Each daily newspaper a member of the AP has one vote. The paper's sports editor usually is the voter.

Daddy D 11
12-19-2007, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by DaHop72
Nothing against you, you just post on every thread just like 325 does whether you seen a team play or not. I just think it's a little hard to formulate an opionion on a team when you have not seen them play.

ive actually seen snyder play, but only in game film. and i obviously saw rockdale play, considering we played them. so youd be surprised :D

icu812
12-19-2007, 01:53 PM
Congrats to all on the list.

Van's Calhoun, Palacios' Buckley top 3A team
By PAUL J. WEBER

Associated Press Writer


DALLAS — Van running back Jermie Calhoun now has something to distinguish himself from Adrian Peterson.

Routinely compared to the Minnesota Vikings rookie since his freshman year, Calhoun won Class 3A Offensive Player of the Year honors Tuesday, snaring an award that eluded Peterson in high school.

At 6-feet and 210 pounds, Calhoun and his bullish style of breaking tackles remind many of Peterson, the East Texas star who played about 60 miles from Van at Palestine.

"Their running styles mimic each other a lot," Van coach Brady Pennington said. "(Jermie) has big legs and a strong upper body, but what intrigued everybody was here is this big back that can run over you, but he also has little-back moves."

Palacios linebacker Aaron Buckley was named defensive player of the year on the 18th annual Associated Press Sports Editors team. Selections were based on regular-season performance, and ballots were cast by sportswriters from across Texas.

Calhoun rushed for 1,910 yards and scored 30 touchdowns in his final season at Van. He leaves with 6,214 yards rushing and 98 touchdowns.

Like Peterson, Calhoun is headed to Oklahoma. Peterson ran for nearly 2,100 yards his senior year at Palestine in 2003, but he finished behind Ennis quarterback Graham Harrell for top offensive honors in 4A.

At Palacios, Buckley didn't draw too many comparisons — mostly because the historically losing program along the Texas coast never had many players of his caliber.

Behind Buckley and running back Henry Solis, a second-team selection, Palacios made the playoffs for the first time in 43 years. Buckley, who has orally committed to Texas A&M, finished the season with 147 tackles, 13 sacks and 10 forced fumbles.

"Ever since I was a freshman we'd hear about how Palacios hadn't made the playoffs in 40-something years," he said. "I'm happy with what I did this year."

Celina led 3A with four first-team selections: offensive lineman Adam Thomas; defensive linemen Troy Franklin and Breck Holman; and defensive back D'Anton Lynn. They will lead the Bobcats against China Spring in the Division II championship on Saturday.

Royse City junior Richard Morrison, who threw for nearly 2,900 yards and 30 touchdowns, was selected as first-team quarterback.

DaHop72
12-19-2007, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Daddy D 11
ive actually seen snyder play, but only in game film. and i obviously saw rockdale play, considering we played them. so youd be surprised :D :hand: :hand: :hand: :hand: Nothing you say surprises me, for instance just how old were you in '83????

winthebigone
12-19-2007, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Go Blue
This list is crap.

Agreed

How can Dexter Pratt be second team AS and Caldwell's Xavier Canto be an honorable mention? Canto was co-offensive MVP of the district. He had fewer carries, a higher per/carry average, more yards rushing (stats are regular season only), and more touchdowns. He ran all over Navasota when they played head to head. Canto got ripped.

LH Panther Mom
12-20-2007, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Runnin Panther
In my mind there can on be one of two things that caused LH not to have some of our players make 1st or 2nd team all state.
2. Austin American Statesman who should be pushing for local kids to make it did not support LH kids.

Information & stats WERE turned into the Statesman, but I am not surprised by the lack of support.

Daddy D 11
12-20-2007, 08:45 PM
the only area player that the statesman covers that actually got some credit as fitzhenry. (imagine that) the statesman is a joke of a paper, not only is the sports a sorry excuse for information, so is the rest of the paper.

Old Tiger
12-20-2007, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Daddy D 11
the only area player that the statesman covers that actually got some credit as fitzhenry. (imagine that) the statesman is a joke of a paper, not only is the sports a sorry excuse for information, so is the rest of the paper. and the only reason they cover him so much is because he's going to UT, lol

Daddy D 11
12-20-2007, 09:22 PM
which is an accomplishment, but still. they should get off their knees every once in a while :eek: i dont think i can say that?:doh:

gtown
12-21-2007, 10:34 AM
Congrats to Garrett Simper of Gonzales, 2nd-team safety!

buff4life
12-21-2007, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Runnin Panther
Your right it is a joke. Liberty Hill had 3 kids make All State last year, Lattimore LB, Marlow DE and Allman RB.

This year Allman and Gonzales make honorable mention.

I guess those guys were not as good this year as they were last year. :hand: :hand:

Its all about politics and how much some coaches "boost" their kids numbers...

Dock was the player of the year last year and didn't get ANYTHING this year, i refuse to believe all those linebackers on that list are better than dock