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txgirl
12-10-2007, 12:40 PM
AUSTIN — For the first time, Texas is making elaborate plans to
reduce the embarrassingly high number of freshmen who arrive at the
state's colleges and universities needing remedial work.

A 104-page proposal, which is scheduled to come before the Texas
Higher Education Coordinating Board next month, outlines what students
should learn before enrolling at one of the state's public
universities. Those who do not meet the standards will be directed to
community colleges, where they can get extra help at a lower cost to
themselves and the state.

As it stands, more than half the entering freshmen at Texas colleges
and universities need remedial classes, which don't count toward a
degree. Educators are optimistic the collaborative effort ultimately
will ensure more students earn bachelor's degrees, and in less time.


The dismaying lack of preparation prompted the state Legislature to
order the new standards during a special session in 2006. Since then,
teams of high school teachers, university professors and education
experts have worked to draft the sweeping proposal, which defines
necessary skills to do college-level work in English, math, science
and
the social sciences.

Still, the plan has exposed fissures over how much high school
graduates should be expected to know, based on comments submitted to
the coordinating board.


One high school teacher said the
proposed standards are so high that graduates should get a Ph.D. with
their diplomas. A university professor said, however, that students
should master the proposed set of skills by the eighth grade.

Some educators explained the divide as one of expectations. For
years, the nation's high schools pushed most students toward
graduation, not college. Though state law requires students to take
certain classes to graduate, the requirements don't necessarily
prepare
them for higher education.

"Being college-eligible doesn't mean you're college-ready," said
Paula Roe, scholarship programs coordinator for Project GRAD, a
nonprofit school reform group that works with about 5,000 Houston
students.



In anticipation of the new standards, Texas Southern University is
taking steps to increase the number of students transferring from
community colleges. TSU has a long-standing commitment to accept
anyone
who wants to pursue higher education, but roughly 70 percent of
first-time freshmen arrive without the skills needed to do
college-level work. More than half do not make it to their sophomore
year.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5364614.html

Phil C
12-10-2007, 12:46 PM
What is wrong with it? It looks like it is something to help the students. Isn't that what the schools are supposed to be doing?

eagles_victory
12-10-2007, 12:51 PM
I dont like it because you could have a student come in who is strong in English Science and History and maybe just struggled a little bit with Math. Since the student struggles with one subject they shouldnt have to go to a jr college for that reason alone.

I have seen many students take one remedial math or maybe one remedial reading pass it easily then go on and graduate college with a high G.P.A. I guess it does make some sense from a financial aspect I just dont like the idea too much

Highschoolfan78
12-10-2007, 02:17 PM
How can an educator teach a well rounded education when the state legislators tie their hands behind their back with the TAKS test. I tutor fifth graders at my job and many problems drastically show. These kids lack the ability to multiply basic numbers, have no clue of basic history, and only memorize science terms presented that week. Science is a major problem because in earlier years the importance of Math and Reading overshadowed the importance of Science. Now that fifth graders have to pass the Science TAKS, the teachers are constantly having to teach new terms. Their foundation for science knowledge was not established early on and now is a constant struggle. Who do you blame? I blame the legislators for having no background in education. Every decision to improve certain aspects of education now contradicts their previous decisions and guidelines. The ones who suffer the most are these ill-prepared college students. Nothing will change until standardized testing changes dramatically.

Johnny Utah
12-10-2007, 03:20 PM
Well put Highschoolfan. I think that public education needs to go to a tracking system. Lets face it, not everyone is college material. Schools should offer multiple avenues for students to pursue, technology, tech schools, building trades, vocational avenues as well as college bound. That would solve alot of public school problems.

44INAROW
12-10-2007, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by Highschoolfan78
How can an educator teach a well rounded education when the state legislators tie their hands behind their back with the TAKS test. I tutor fifth graders at my job and many problems drastically show. These kids lack the ability to multiply basic numbers, have no clue of basic history, and only memorize science terms presented that week. Science is a major problem because in earlier years the importance of Math and Reading overshadowed the importance of Science. Now that fifth graders have to pass the Science TAKS, the teachers are constantly having to teach new terms. Their foundation for science knowledge was not established early on and now is a constant struggle. Who do you blame? I blame the legislators for having no background in education. Every decision to improve certain aspects of education now contradicts their previous decisions and guidelines. The ones who suffer the most are these ill-prepared college students. Nothing will change until standardized testing changes dramatically.

:clap: :clap: excellent reply HSF78...

Highschoolfan78
12-10-2007, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by 44INAROW
:clap: :clap: excellent reply HSF78...

thank you I try! *takes a bow*