Class 3A Division II State Semifinal(Gotw): Snyder (12-2) vs. Celina (14-0)

[charlesrixey]

what a game this should be

Snyder vs Celina:

Saturday, December 15, 4:00 pm, Shotwell Stadium, Abilene

[SUPERMANN5107]

Should be a close one. Snyder by 3

[Old Tiger]

Celina 49
Snyder 13

[TexanFan4Life]

I don't think Snyder's 3-3-5 is going to cut it against Celina.

Celina 52
Snyder 27

[JR2004]

Celina 49
Snyder 21

[Snydertigersrul]

SNYDER 62
CELINA 0

[desertking]

Remember it only takes one point to win!Just ask SouthLake Carroll.
GO TIGERS!!!

[wtxfootball08]

will clays bad-- but not bad enough Celina takes this one by 13

[lakers]

My conscious says pick Celina...

But my heart says Snyder...

Watch out, Snyder by 2

[DUKE22]

Many feel that this game is going to be a joke. Well the tigers are going to make the trip, and they are going to have to stop us too. We know they are good, we know about there tradition. To be the best you have to beat the best. This is a challenge that we have been waiting for. We started preparing for this way back in the spring. We want this, and yeah I know be careful what you ask for, but this group right now believes we can beat anyone. I will no problem giving them credit regardless of the outcome of this one, but I promise we will show up and we will get after them.

[desertking]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
That won't happen
I'm with 325,if we do fall behind it will never be by 31 points.

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by DUKE22
Many feel that this game is going to be a joke. Well the tigers are going to make the trip, and they are going to have to stop us too. We know they are good, we know about there tradition. To be the best you have to beat the best. This is a challenge that we have been waiting for. We started preparing for this way back in the spring. We want this, and yeah I know be careful what you ask for, but this group right now believes we can beat anyone. I will no problem giving them credit regardless of the outcome of this one, but I promise we will show up and we will get after them.

:clap: :clap:

[bobcat1]

Here's to a great game that we win by 5.:D

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Here's to a great game that we win by 5.:D


What kinda D do you guys run?

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
What kinda D do you guys run?


3-5-3 right?

[DUKE22]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
What kinda D do you guys run? Man they run THE DEFENSE the Celina defense the 10-1 and it is tough.

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
3-5-3 right?

LOL!

not quite!

[DUKE22]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
LOL!

not quite! Hey he is a rookie. :D :D

[Watchman]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Here's to a great game that we win by 5.:D

You mean 5 TD's right? ;)

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by DUKE22
Hey he is a rookie. :D :D



I think we should run a 3-4-4

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
HAHAHABAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LMFAO Is that a challenge? Are you daring Celina to do what you think impossible?

[DUKE22]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
I think we should run a 3-4-4 No problem just call up the Patriots up and tell us how. :) :) :)

[Watchman]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
HAHAHABAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LMFAO

35 points is not that unusual for Celina. Snyder doesn't have the OL to beat the Celina DL so Clay is going to be out there in the flat all by himself. I am sure Breck will be happy to introduce Mr. Clay to the same "smash mouth" football that Pittsburgh saw.

It's gonna be a fun one! :cool:

[DUKE22]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I am going too assume that means "fat" and not what it probably means.

Don't post that again....just in case I decide it means something else!! It means funky, froggy, flava flav, or no it might just mean fruity.

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
YUH, You Galina folks keep underestimating the Tigers!

we are fans

the players don't post here

the players will be ready to play on saturday, regardless of what a bunch of fans say on a message board

[Get It In Gear]

Coach Roger's and his staff have already broken this defense down, I know they will have something that will rip it apart. Block the mike backer and away you go. As far as the Tiger's defense goes they will find a way to stop Davis, Lynn, and Waldrep(sp).

[IHStangFan]

I like Snyder....I just have a gut feeling they take this one in a close one.

[skins4life]

I hope they do. They better take their A+ game the way Celina played today!

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
I like Snyder....I just have a gut feeling they take this one in a close one.

:D

[75009Football]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
You Celina folks can think that all you want but I promise you it won't happen!

Look what almost happened to Gilmer tonight, underestimating teams.

Why go that far from the picture. Lets look at what almost happened to Snyder. Think Celina has pretty much handed the other teams their tickets home early in all the playoff games. Snyder almost got their ticket home punched yesterday. I think I would quit worrying about Celina underestimating teams and start worrying about how to Snyder's going to stop that O.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
The only thing it can be is 5 points.

Lashings come to mind this evening, but could be TD's as was posted earlier. Catching up from the drive back from the game.

[Who-dun-it!!?]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Celina 49
Snyder 13

Not a very realistic prediction in my opinion. Celina is certainly the favorite, but Snyder scoring only 13? I think your prediction is a direct reflection of personal feelings and not knowledge of the game.

[Who-dun-it!!?]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
SNYDER 62
CELINA 0

Come on STR, don't stoop to there level.

[Who-dun-it!!?]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Here's to a great game that we win by 5.:D

I can tell by your post that you have respect for your opponant. Thank you for that. It gets hard on an old man to keep reading posts based on personal feelings rather than football knowledge.

[Who-dun-it!!?]

I'll keep it realistic. Celina is expected to win. They are a proven program. I've never seen them play, and I know that we have our hands full. Snyder is in a position that they have only been in once before. If we win it will shock the world. Just as Abilene High did last week against SCL. I don't believe Celina will keep Clay from reaching the 3000 yard mark on the season, but, He will definately be running against the tuffest opponant he has faced this year. On that note Celina may not have seen a back like Clay this year, I wouldn't know. But I expect to be proud of these two teams at the end of next week no matter what the outcome. I am as excited about seeing Celina play as I am hopful that the Tigers will advance to the finals. And for the record I voted Snyder cause I'm not capable of voting against them.

Shock the World Boys!!

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by Who-dun-it!!?
I'll keep it realistic. Celina is expected to win. They are a proven program. I've never seen them play, and I know that we have our hands full. Snyder is in a position that they have only been in once before. If we win it will shock the world. Just as Abilene High did last week against SCL. I don't believe Celina will keep Clay from reaching the 3000 yard mark on the season, but, He will definately be running against the tuffest opponant he has faced this year. On that note Celina may not have seen a back like Clay this year, I wouldn't know. But I expect to be proud of these two teams at the end of next week no matter what the outcome. I am as excited about seeing Celina play as I am hopful that the Tigers will advance to the finals. And for the record I voted Snyder cause I'm not capable of voting against them.

Shock the World Boys!!


:clap: :clap: This will be Will Clays best game of all.

[TigerPride]

Originally posted by DUKE22
Many feel that this game is going to be a joke. Well the tigers are going to make the trip, and they are going to have to stop us too. We know they are good, we know about there tradition. To be the best you have to beat the best. This is a challenge that we have been waiting for. We started preparing for this way back in the spring. We want this, and yeah I know be careful what you ask for, but this group right now believes we can beat anyone. I will no problem giving them credit regardless of the outcome of this one, but I promise we will show up and we will get after them.

good post...

[jason]

where/when is this game?

i didnt want to read through 5 pages of crap to find it...

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by jason
where/when is this game?

i didnt want to read through 5 pages of crap to find it...

LOL

Saturday, Shotwell Stadium @ 4:00pm

[Stownhorse]

You posters who say Snyder in a close one are smoking dope. Like I said in another thread, Celina is gunna pelt, thump, kill, destroy, annihilate, decapitate, donkey stomp, crap on, murder, pulverize, hammer, wallop, smash, shatter, butcher, waste, lynch, slay, smother, slaughter, and terminate the Snyder Tigers. Will Clay WILL get shut-down.

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by SUPERMANN5107
Should be a close one. Snyder by 3


Originally posted by lakers
My conscious says pick Celina...

But my heart says Snyder...

Watch out, Snyder by 2


Originally posted by Get It In Gear
Coach Roger's and his staff have already broken this defense down, I know they will have something that will rip it apart. Block the mike backer and away you go. As far as the Tiger's defense goes they will find a way to stop Davis, Lynn, and Waldrep(sp).

Its that easy huh? Little birdy told me those linebackers read the plays so well and will beat the RB to the hole. But we will see.


Originally posted by IHStangFan
I like Snyder....I just have a gut feeling they take this one in a close one.

All these posts for close games are kinda ridiculous. They are undefeated and their closest game was their 1st game of the season.







Originally posted by bobcat1
Here's to a great game that we win by 5.:D

:clap:

[gatordaze]

So Will Clay's best game is 267 yards. He will surpass that this week? I look forward to his amazing talent!

[BILLYFRED0000]

Time for a little statistical analysis brought to you by your friendly neighborhood billyfred. For starters Masseys top seven.

Celina 12 0 0 2.183 (1) 54.27 (1) 52.50 (3) 24.18 (1) 20.40 (30) 3A II-9
Liberty Hill 11 0 0 1.990 (2) 47.93 (2) 53.15 (2) 17.20 (12) 23.55 (11) 3A III-18
La Vega 12 0 0 1.924 (3) 45.58 (3) 47.39 (7) 20.60 (5) 20.52 (28) 3A III-17
Gilmer 12 0 0 1.828 (4) 43.47 (4) 53.76 (1) 12.14 (27) 17.70 (47) 3A II-15
Giddings 10 0 0 1.814 (5) 42.46 (6) 42.46 (15) 22.42 (2) 21.81 (16) 3A III-23
Royse City 11 0 0 1.770 (6) 42.24 (7) 47.94 (6) 16.71 (14) 18.17 (43) 3A II-10
Abilene Wylie 10 2 0 1.728 (7) 42.60 (5) 46.37 (10) 18.65 (6) 26.93 (2) 3A I-7

This was before this weekend. The gilmer AW game was close as Massy predicted(maxpreps was wrong Masseys was right on BTW). La Vega had a rep for being undisciplined and CS proved up on them for that. Celina won handily against a team ranked at 32 by masseys. Giddings and RC stay in that group because of the schedules they played and teams that made playoff runs against them. They will drop further on the next rendition which is usually updated by Tuesday. LH won handily as well... CS is ranked at number 10 and was statistically close enough to La Vega to cause an upset.
Cuero and Snyder fall at 14 and 15 with near identical ratings of top 15 O's and top 40 D's.
This late in the season Masseys is a good tool. Everyone has stopped playing except for the survivors and those teams then can be measured more empirically.
Best matchup left is Gilmer LH. Barn burner for sure. Cuero and CS should also be an excellent game as the matchups are very close again. Now for the purposes of this thread.
Celina vs Snyder.
Snyder gets a 3 point give for playing in Shotwell. Tougher for us to get there.

Offensive analysis shows Celina with the better O.
6600 + yards and 628 points scored.
to
5000 + yards and 531 points scored.
Defensive analysis is even more skewed toward Celina.
2000 yards and 139 points given up C
to
3500(app value based on points((I have not found the d yardage yet)))
and 291 points given up.

SOS (again using Masseys') is a wash at 30 for Celina and 32 for Snyder. Again before this weekend.
Based on the Celina O vs Snyder D, Celina will punt 1 or 2 times. With no mistakes that would mean and 8 possesion game scoring 6 times for 42 points.
Snyder O against Celina D punts 5 times with no mistakes and scores 3 times for 21.
Style of play favors Celina. Celina is statistically better against running than passing althoug not as much as in years past. Pittsburg had an outstanding running game having put up 765 yards total offense in one game this year. They garnered 170 yards rushing vs Celina and their standout rusher was faster and more elusive than Snyder.
Style of play does not favor Snyder's D which has found it difficult to stop balanced teams that run the ball well.
Team speed favors Celina(this usually does not happen.:cool: ).
Return teams kicking teams are closer with the edge to Celina having D'anton who is one of the top returners around.
Snyder may have the edge on the field goal unit.
Snyder should have the home field as they will probably garner more fan support from the region than Celina.
Intangibles to Celina. They have been there before a lot and the staff is excellent at making adjustments.

Now this is only a statistcal analysis and is not meant to be a prediction. A bunch of teenagers are going to play football and who knows what will happen.;)

Let the fueding begin.

[vlion75grad]

Celina 32 - Snyder 21

[Who-dun-it!!?]

Originally posted by gatordaze
So Will Clay's best game is 267 yards. He will surpass that this week? I look forward to his amazing talent!

I thought his best game went over 300?

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by Who-dun-it!!?
I thought his best game went over 300?

It was. I believe he ran for 340+ against Hereford.

[Ranger Mom]

DaHop and I talked to a "football guru" who has seen both teams play on more than one occassion. He was asked, "does Snyder have a chance?". The guru's answer was, "Heck yeah, they have a chance...Snyder's got some real talant."

So....all the stats and petty arguments aside, I will take this guys word over anything anybody on this board has to say!!:D

Here's hoping for a good, clean close game....and because I am feeling somewhat "homerish" at the moment, I hope Snyder pulls off the shocker of the year!!

I won't be there in person,(going to watch Liberty Hill and Gilmer) but I will be there in spirit!

GO TIGERS!!

[CelinaProud]

Originally posted by Get It In Gear
Coach Roger's and his staff have already broken this defense down, I know they will have something that will rip it apart. Block the mike backer and away you go. As far as the Tiger's defense goes they will find a way to stop Davis, Lynn, and Waldrep(sp).

Yes, I have seen a way to stop Davis, Lynn & Charlie....the END ZONE! Stops them EVERY TIME!

[CelinaProud]

Originally posted by Who-dun-it!!?
I'll keep it realistic. Celina is expected to win. They are a proven program. I've never seen them play, and I know that we have our hands full. Snyder is in a position that they have only been in once before. If we win it will shock the world. Just as Abilene High did last week against SCL. I don't believe Celina will keep Clay from reaching the 3000 yard mark on the season, but, He will definately be running against the tuffest opponant he has faced this year. On that note Celina may not have seen a back like Clay this year, I wouldn't know. But I expect to be proud of these two teams at the end of next week no matter what the outcome. I am as excited about seeing Celina play as I am hopful that the Tigers will advance to the finals. And for the record I voted Snyder cause I'm not capable of voting against them.

Shock the World Boys!!

Nice Post! I mean, TOTALLY hope Celina wins, just as loyal on the orange side:) BUT I appreciate your sportsmanship and your attitude! I'm looking forward to an awesome game!

[CelinaProud]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Time for a little statistical analysis brought to you by your friendly neighborhood billyfred. For starters Masseys top seven.

Celina 12 0 0 2.183 (1) 54.27 (1) 52.50 (3) 24.18 (1) 20.40 (30) 3A II-9
Liberty Hill 11 0 0 1.990 (2) 47.93 (2) 53.15 (2) 17.20 (12) 23.55 (11) 3A III-18
La Vega 12 0 0 1.924 (3) 45.58 (3) 47.39 (7) 20.60 (5) 20.52 (28) 3A III-17
Gilmer 12 0 0 1.828 (4) 43.47 (4) 53.76 (1) 12.14 (27) 17.70 (47) 3A II-15
Giddings 10 0 0 1.814 (5) 42.46 (6) 42.46 (15) 22.42 (2) 21.81 (16) 3A III-23
Royse City 11 0 0 1.770 (6) 42.24 (7) 47.94 (6) 16.71 (14) 18.17 (43) 3A II-10
Abilene Wylie 10 2 0 1.728 (7) 42.60 (5) 46.37 (10) 18.65 (6) 26.93 (2) 3A I-7

This was before this weekend. The gilmer AW game was close as Massy predicted(maxpreps was wrong Masseys was right on BTW). La Vega had a rep for being undisciplined and CS proved up on them for that. Celina won handily against a team ranked at 32 by masseys. Giddings and RC stay in that group because of the schedules they played and teams that made playoff runs against them. They will drop further on the next rendition which is usually updated by Tuesday. LH won handily as well... CS is ranked at number 10 and was statistically close enough to La Vega to cause an upset.
Cuero and Snyder fall at 14 and 15 with near identical ratings of top 15 O's and top 40 D's.
This late in the season Masseys is a good tool. Everyone has stopped playing except for the survivors and those teams then can be measured more empirically.
Best matchup left is Gilmer LH. Barn burner for sure. Cuero and CS should also be an excellent game as the matchups are very close again. Now for the purposes of this thread.
Celina vs Snyder.
Snyder gets a 3 point give for playing in Shotwell. Tougher for us to get there.

Offensive analysis shows Celina with the better O.
6600 + yards and 628 points scored.
to
5000 + yards and 531 points scored.
Defensive analysis is even more skewed toward Celina.
2000 yards and 139 points given up C
to
3500(app value based on points((I have not found the d yardage yet)))
and 291 points given up.

SOS (again using Masseys') is a wash at 30 for Celina and 32 for Snyder. Again before this weekend.
Based on the Celina O vs Snyder D, Celina will punt 1 or 2 times. With no mistakes that would mean and 8 possesion game scoring 6 times for 42 points.
Snyder O against Celina D punts 5 times with no mistakes and scores 3 times for 21.
Style of play favors Celina. Celina is statistically better against running than passing althoug not as much as in years past. Pittsburg had an outstanding running game having put up 765 yards total offense in one game this year. They garnered 170 yards rushing vs Celina and their standout rusher was faster and more elusive than Snyder.
Style of play does not favor Snyder's D which has found it difficult to stop balanced teams that run the ball well.
Team speed favors Celina(this usually does not happen.:cool: ).
Return teams kicking teams are closer with the edge to Celina having D'anton who is one of the top returners around.
Snyder may have the edge on the field goal unit.
Snyder should have the home field as they will probably garner more fan support from the region than Celina.
Intangibles to Celina. They have been there before a lot and the staff is excellent at making adjustments.

Now this is only a statistcal analysis and is not meant to be a prediction. A bunch of teenagers are going to play football and who knows what will happen.;)

Let the fueding begin.

My husband and I pledge our allegiance to your mathematical abilities and want to know if you do taxes?! :) All jokes aside, no better way to put the truth out there, than to let the numbers talk!

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by CelinaProud
My husband and I pledge our allegiance to your mathematical abilities and want to know if you do taxes?! :) All jokes aside, no better way to put the truth out there, than to let the numbers talk!

Numbers have their own special quality. They indicate trends more than facts. An interesting addition to the trends are the points in the playoffs. Celina has started to peak towards the semis.

West 41-0
Pittsburg 50-23.
Glen Rose. 70-21.

While Snyder is trending in the other direction. To be fair, Vernon does play better D usually than West or Glen Rose. But Argyle does not. Pittsburg was dead average on D. Just really good O.
But in the last two games Celina has been playing better and better with less mistakes. The Glen Rose game was an A game for the O and an A - for the D. Both teams are playing well but Celina seems to be on an uptick while Snyder has leveled out some.

As a side note, both West and Glen Rose have statistcally better defenses than Snyder.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
DaHop and I talked to a "football guru" who has seen both teams play on more than one occassion. He was asked, "does Snyder have a chance?". The guru's answer was, "Heck yeah, they have a chance...Snyder's got some real talant."

So....all the stats and petty arguments aside, I will take this guys word over anything anybody on this board has to say!!:D

Here's hoping for a good, clean close game....and because I am feeling somewhat "homerish" at the moment, I hope Snyder pulls off the shocker of the year!!
I won't be there in person,(going to watch Liberty Hill and Gilmer) but I will be there in spirit!

GO TIGERS!!

Hey , I agree there is talent there. I have talked to several people who have watched both recently and everyone says the same thing about Snyder. Great O, but a little short on D. Vernon
was a good D but a little short on O.
It will come down to execution on defense on both teams. If Celina plays to form they will stop Snyder some. If Snyder plays to form they won't stop Celina much. But they are gifted and should not be counted out. It is after all a bunch of teenagers who think they already know everything right???:rolleyes:

[dogbone]

Statistis don't count on the scoreboard but check out calpreps.com where you can pick any high school team in the country and see how somebodys mathematical formulas says it will turn out. Aparently they are close to 90% accurate over the past few years.

http://www.calpreps.com/cgi-bin/2007/project_matchup.pl

They predict: Celina (TX) 35, Snyder (TX) 28

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000

Snyder may have the edge on the field goal unit.

I know you are a big fan of Massey's BILLYFRED, are you by chance Massey?:thinking: :thinking: :D

But if the above statement is true according to Massey I sure hope this puppy doesn't come down to a field goal or you guys are really in a world of hurt.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by DaHop72
I know you are a big fan of Massey's BILLYFRED, are you by chance Massey?:thinking: :thinking: :D

But if the above statement is true according to Massey I sure hope this puppy doesn't come down to a field goal or you guys are really in a world of hurt.

Aint that the truth. I am really not concerned about our O. I am curious to see how well our D matches up with Snyder. I think Snyder has the best offense of the teams left for us to face except maybe Cuero. If our D does its usually outstanding job it could be tough for the tigers. I saw someone flash a 4.34 up there for a forty time from snyder. Since Deon Sanders only posted a 4.29 I have to laugh. We do have a legit electronically timed 4.48 in
D'anton and that ain't bad for a 6'1 195
FS. So I think our D will hold up. This is not going to be like LH and that machine they run. This will be more smashmouth style and that is what we play.

[Who-dun-it!!?]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Hey , I agree there is talent there. I have talked to several people who have watched both recently and everyone says the same thing about Snyder. Great O, but a little short on D. Vernon
was a good D but a little short on O.
It will come down to execution on defense on both teams. If Celina plays to form they will stop Snyder some. If Snyder plays to form they won't stop Celina much. But they are gifted and should not be counted out. It is after all a bunch of teenagers who think they already know everything right???:rolleyes:

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Not to mention these teenagers think they are invincable. :D

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Hey , I agree there is talent there. I have talked to several people who have watched both recently and everyone says the same thing about Snyder. Great O, but a little short on D. Vernon
was a good D but a little short on O.
It will come down to execution on defense on both teams. If Celina plays to form they will stop Snyder some. If Snyder plays to form they won't stop Celina much. But they are gifted and should not be counted out. It is after all a bunch of teenagers who think they already know everything right???:rolleyes:

Those darned teenagers!!:mad: Seriously though, this should be a GREAT game!! No matter how it turns out, neither team will have anything to hang their head about....and whichever way it ends up, I plan on being at that State game in 2 weeks!

[Tres Lobos]

as much as i don't like snyder i'm pullin for em' in this one, Snyder by 1

[FootballFanatic]

Originally posted by DUKE22
Many feel that this game is going to be a joke. Well the tigers are going to make the trip, and they are going to have to stop us too. We know they are good, we know about there tradition. To be the best you have to beat the best. This is a challenge that we have been waiting for. We started preparing for this way back in the spring. We want this, and yeah I know be careful what you ask for, but this group right now believes we can beat anyone. I will no problem giving them credit regardless of the outcome of this one, but I promise we will show up and we will get after them.

I really like your attitude Duke22. That is what it is all about. Everyone focuses on "winning" but more importantly doing their best and preparing to be the best. May the best always play the best in the playoffs. Celina vs Snyder is sure to be a fun game no matter which team you are for. Both teams have worked hard to be here. Both are worthy opponents. Let's hope it isn't like the Glen Rose game. That isn't really fun for anybody, including Celina. Yes, they enjoy a win and yes it was somewhat physical. However, many of the Glen Rose players strongest skill was talking smack on the field. If they had put that energy into practicing through the season they might not have had almost 600 yards run up on them. If you take away a TD the refs gave GR and a TD the 2nd string Celina defense let get by, the score would have been 71 to 7. What the heck is up with that? But GR sure could cuss.

[bobcat74]

Yeah, Celina really didn't have fun putting up 71 pts. on GR :thinking:

[75009Football]

Originally posted by Who-dun-it!!?
I'll keep it realistic. And for the record I voted Snyder cause I'm not capable of voting against them.

Shock the World Boys!!

How much does he need?

[Who-dun-it!!?]

Originally posted by 75009Football
How much does he need?

:confused: How much does who need for what?

I think your askin bout Will Clay, and 3000. If so, I think its in the neighborhood of 31 yds.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
DaHop and I talked to a "football guru" who has seen both teams play on more than one occassion. He was asked, "does Snyder have a chance?". The guru's answer was, "Heck yeah, they have a chance...Snyder's got some real talant."

So....all the stats and petty arguments aside, I will take this guys word over anything anybody on this board has to say!!:D

Here's hoping for a good, clean close game....and because I am feeling somewhat "homerish" at the moment, I hope Snyder pulls off the shocker of the year!!

I won't be there in person,(going to watch Liberty Hill and Gilmer) but I will be there in spirit!

GO TIGERS!!

Well heck yeah they got a greater than -0- chance of winnin.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by CelinaProud
Yes, I have seen a way to stop Davis, Lynn & Charlie....the END ZONE! Stops them EVERY TIME!

LMHO. Aint it the truth.

[headhunter]

I will pick Snyder based on their running back

I believe from what i have heard he is one of the best in 3a and possibly one of the best in the state. Celina has a balanced attack and it will be a close game. I think Celina may have the upper edge because they can throw the ball and score quicker than Snyder, however if Snyder can control the ball and eat up clock, their best defense will be their offense. I am probably rooting for Snyder so Snyder325Tiger can post about a million more threads the following week. Even though i am tired of hearing him mouth off I would love to see Cuero play Snyder.

Snyder wins if they control the ball and dont fall behind by more than 2 scores.

Snyder 28
Celina 21

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Who-dun-it!!?
:confused: How much does who need for what?

I think your askin bout Will Clay, and 3000. If so, I think its in the neighborhood of 31 yds.

UH OH....... :eek: :eek:

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

quote:
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Originally posted by Who-dun-it!!?
How much does who need for what?

I think your askin bout Will Clay, and 3000. If so, I think its in the neighborhood of 31 yds.
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I've been looking at all of the top rushers and Will had to be the leading rusher

[75009Football]

Originally posted by dogbone
Statistis don't count on the scoreboard but check out calpreps.com where you can pick any high school team in the country and see how somebodys mathematical formulas says it will turn out. Aparently they are close to 90% accurate over the past few years.

http://www.calpreps.com/cgi-bin/2007/project_matchup.pl

They predict: Celina (TX) 35, Snyder (TX) 28

They also predicted Celina 42, Glen Rose 14 so what do we make of their predictions for Celina's abilities? They seem to pick Snyder's abilities fairly well though. They picked Snyder 31, Vernon 26. So maybe 63-28 Celina? I'm not thinking thats going to happen but check out the rest of Snyders games to see how calpreps works out.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by 75009Football
They also predicted Celina 42, Glen Rose 14 so what do we make of their predictions for Celina's abilities? They seem to pick Snyder's abilities fairly well though. They picked Snyder 31, Vernon 26. So maybe 63-28 Celina? I'm not thinking thats going to happen but check out the rest of Snyders games to see how calpreps works out.

Well how do ya do? Massey's does really well in playoff season. The main reason I use him is his formula plays down the points spread and includes style of play more. There are several reasons why this is important but weather, ball control teams vs spread teams that throw and score quickly do not always indicate the nature of the game. A team might do something like we did in district this year. We put 7 touchdowns up on one team in about 11 plays. 35-0 at the end of the first quarter. We were playing the cheerleaders in the third and only scored 3 more td's and gave up one. If we would have kept the first string in pedal to the metal, 120 to 0 maybe. So our dominance was not indicated by the score. In fact our yardage totals have about 2000 yards going to the second and third teams and a lot of those points given up to our second and third string defense. Our games are usually over by halftime in district play and so our most of our playoff games. So if you were impressed with our numbers just imagine what we might have posted. We are not interested in that. We are interested in fair play sportsmanship and preparing our team for next year while we preserve our team for the playoffs this year.

[runtherace]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Well how do ya do? Massey's does really well in playoff season. The main reason I use him is his formula plays down the points spread and includes style of play more. There are several reasons why this is important but weather, ball control teams vs spread teams that throw and score quickly do not always indicate the nature of the game. A team might do something like we did in district this year. We put 7 touchdowns up on one team in about 11 plays. 35-0 at the end of the first quarter. We were playing the cheerleaders in the third and only scored 3 more td's and gave up one. If we would have kept the first string in pedal to the metal, 120 to 0 maybe. So our dominance was not indicated by the score. In fact our yardage totals have about 2000 yards going to the second and third teams and a lot of those points given up to our second and third string defense. Our games are usually over by halftime in district play and so our most of our playoff games. So if you were impressed with our numbers just imagine what we might have posted. We are not interested in that. We are interested in fair play sportsmanship and preparing our team for next year while we preserve our team for the playoffs this year.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by bobcat74
Yeah, Celina really didn't have fun putting up 71 pts. on GR :thinking:

Didn't see too much on the GR side that made us want to put too many points on the board except a few taunts from a few boys but thats going to happen. Had more fun watching them either sit on the sideline or hold their hands on their hips on D as we marched down the field. When the Refs failed to make a lot of calls or did make some calls on us that did not also get made on the other side, it did make it feel like a little redemption when we did score. We had put in subs in the end and they had done the same so the scoring at the end of the game was not normal.

But it sure was fun watchin waddin it?

[Snydertigersrul]

Originally posted by Who-dun-it!!?
:confused: How much does who need for what?

I think your askin bout Will Clay, and 3000. If so, I think its in the neighborhood of 31 yds.


He needs 79 yards.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by Who-dun-it!!?
:confused: How much does who need for what?

I think your askin bout Will Clay, and 3000. If so, I think its in the neighborhood of 31 yds.

Yes, tryin to see how much he needed to make 3000. That will be tuff tryin to stop that. The D will have fun tryin but give him a few runs and let him get it and then we can get on with the ball game.

[runtherace]

Sorry I hit the wrong key first time. Just thought I would mention the fact that Celina is not the only team that plays their subs, j.v. etc. in games. Snyder's scores and Will Clay's yardage totals have drastically been reduced all year because the competition was lacking and he was watching. That includes district and the playoffs. I watched Celina's first half sat. and they have a couple of beasts on defense as well as a very effecient offense. They are very good as I would expect at this level. It should be fun.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by runtherace
Sorry I hit the wrong key first time. Just thought I would mention the fact that Celina is not the only team that plays their subs, j.v. etc. in games. Snyder's scores and Will Clay's yardage totals have drastically been reduced all year because the competition was lacking and he was watching. That includes district and the playoffs. I watched Celina's first half sat. and they have a couple of beasts on defense as well as a very effecient offense. They are very good as I would expect at this level. It should be fun.

I am sure you did it some in the sub range. But you lost a couple and had several close ones that required you to play 4 quarters. Maybe 6 games you played straight up. We did that on one game. I calculated the total number of games first string played and it comes to about 9 and a half games this season. The subs played the other 4 and a half. I doubt Snyder was close to that.:nerd:

[runtherace]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
I am sure you did it some in the sub range. But you lost a couple and had several close ones that required you to play 4 quarters. Maybe 6 games you played straight up. We did that on one game. I calculated the total number of games first string played and it comes to about 9 and a half games this season. The subs played the other 4 and a half. I doubt Snyder was close to that.:nerd:

Your correct, especially in our pre-district games, most of which our starters did play at least 3 sometimes all 4 quarters. Starting with our district schedule as well as our first 2 playoff games, these games were not very competitive. I realize almost all of ya'll's games have been that way. I believe both teams will be playing the best teams they have played all season on sat.. That's how it should be.

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
I am sure you did it some in the sub range. But you lost a couple and had several close ones that required you to play 4 quarters. Maybe 6 games you played straight up. We did that on one game. I calculated the total number of games first string played and it comes to about 9 and a half games this season. The subs played the other 4 and a half. I doubt Snyder was close to that.:nerd: ALL HAIL CELINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[75009Football]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
quote:
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Originally posted by Who-dun-it!!?
How much does who need for what?

I think your askin bout Will Clay, and 3000. If so, I think its in the neighborhood of 31 yds.
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I've been looking at all of the top rushers and Will had to be the leading rusher

What would happen if Will had to miss this game? Who is his backup? How many yards does he have this year?

[Who-dun-it!!?]

Originally posted by 75009Football
What would happen if Will had to miss this game? Who is his backup? How many yards does he have this year?

Why, are u planning something evil?:devil:

We have no one besides Will, I thought you knew. We are a one man show. :cool:

[STANG RED]

Dang I cant make it to this game. I'll be in Ruidoso NM at Inn of The Montain Gods. In truth, I'd rather be at Shotwell watching this game.:( I'm sure going to need lots of updates please. I just hope my cell phone works well up there.
Good Luck Tigers! I'm afraid your gonna need some. But great teams find a way to go out and make their own luck.
Go gettum Tigers!

[75009Football]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Well how do ya do? Massey's does really well in playoff season. The main reason I use him is his formula plays down the points spread and includes style of play more. There are several reasons why this is important but weather, ball control teams vs spread teams that throw and score quickly do not always indicate the nature of the game. A team might do something like we did in district this year. We put 7 touchdowns up on one team in about 11 plays. 35-0 at the end of the first quarter. We were playing the cheerleaders in the third and only scored 3 more td's and gave up one. If we would have kept the first string in pedal to the metal, 120 to 0 maybe. So our dominance was not indicated by the score. In fact our yardage totals have about 2000 yards going to the second and third teams and a lot of those points given up to our second and third string defense. Our games are usually over by halftime in district play and so our most of our playoff games. So if you were impressed with our numbers just imagine what we might have posted. We are not interested in that. We are interested in fair play sportsmanship and preparing our team for next year while we preserve our team for the playoffs this year.

Masseys has done fairly well this year in picking winners. China Spring and Rio Hondo were shockers though and Masseys had them over their opponents.

[CelinaProud]

Originally posted by DaHop72
Celina is the greatest team in the nation, just ask Massey's.:devil: :devil:

We did, he concurs, as does silly 'ole Dave Campbell, and yup, Wade Phillips just gave us the thumbs up and hold on........phone's ringing, special red phone, and.......yes, sir, President Bush says it's a definite! Thanks for your insight as well:D We like it when we're all on the same page!

[75009Football]

Originally posted by STANG RED
Maybe so, and that is impressive. But this is not the 2Adownlow! So please get back with us on the number that actually counts here.;) They all count. If we somehow get moved back to 2A, we'll still fondly remember all the Area, Regional, and other titles we gather here in 3A and show them off as ya'll will I'm sure. Don't suppose, it ya'll move up, you'll give up on all your past accomplishments will you? Especially any Championships? Didn't think so.

[Who-dun-it!!?]

This is gonna be exciting! I can't wait to see Celina play there best game and see the level of talent they have. And to see first hand why they are respected throughout the state. I'm sure I will not be disappointed. And I hope that the Tigers will gain the respect of the rest of the state as well no matter what the outcome of this game. If we can all remember back 1 week, most of us wrote Abilene Wylie off against Gilmer. But they almost pulled that one out. Snyder obliterated Andrews this year and Abilene Wylie squeeked by them. I love to see Abilene Wylie winning, but I have to believe that this years Tigers are a bit better than this years Bulldogs. Yet people still say Wylie is the only real team in region I. I'm sure its just a jab at other teams, but Snyder will walk off the field Saturday with the respect of the Celina faithful, and hopefully the rest of the state.

Go Tigers!!!

[CelinaProud]

Originally posted by Who-dun-it!!?
This is gonna be exciting! I can't wait to see Celina play there best game and see the level of talent they have. And to see first hand why they are respected throughout the state. I'm sure I will not be disappointed. And I hope that the Tigers will gain the respect of the rest of the state as well no matter what the outcome of this game. If we can all remember back 1 week, most of us wrote Abilene Wylie off against Gilmer. But they almost pulled that one out. Snyder obliterated Andrews this year and Abilene Wylie squeeked by them. I love to see Abilene Wylie winning, but I have to believe that this years Tigers are a bit better than this years Bulldogs. Yet people still say Wylie is the only real team in region I. I'm sure its just a jab at other teams, but Snyder will walk off the field Saturday with the respect of the Celina faithful, and hopefully the rest of the state.

Go Tigers!!!

You already have my respect WHO! Great post!

[44INAROW]

wow - I need to hang around here and pay attention :D

GATA Tigers ;)

[Mustangpride09]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
I wonder what MustangPride09 has to say about this game?

5 Losses in 9 seasons is all I have to say. Celina by 52, this time its a serious prediction.

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by Mustangpride09
5 Losses in 9 seasons is all I have to say. Celina by 52, this time its a serious prediction. :doh: :doh: Not likely to be that bad.:p

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by DaHop72
:doh: :doh: Not likely to be that bad.:p

I like to think it's not likely to be a loss at all.

[Runnin Panther]

Celina by 21.

Looking forward to a Celina - Cuero match up and it would sure be nice if you guys would play in Austin.

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
They are still a power house. They play Gilmer close every year. Plus our score was closer. Not 53-20.

nm....I'm going to take the advice in 44inarow's sig, cause you have plenty of experience.

[SUPERMANN5107]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Thanks to a weak schedule.

Clay has almost 3,000 yds. kinda lop-sided eh?

QB and FB have close to 1,000 yards each.

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by SUPERMANN5107
QB and FB have close to 1,000 yards each.

Whats Clays yds?

[SUPERMANN5107]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Whats Clays yds?

I know I know close to 3000. I'm just saying its not like he's doin all the work.

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by SUPERMANN5107
I know I know close to 3000. I'm just saying its not like he's doin all the work.


Compared to the others it sure looks like it. And for how many times I see him run it every game.

[SUPERMANN5107]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Compared to the others it sure looks like it. And for how many times I see him run it every game.


Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
I found it......the grand total is 267

267 Carries in 14 games. Thats 19 carries a game. Not too out of the norm to me

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by SUPERMANN5107
267 Carries in 14 games. Thats 19 carries a game. Not too out of the norm to me

Thats just what I found on the internet, don't kno if its accurate or not

[75009Football]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Now you got me curious....what all classes did the state rings come from??


1968 Class B Regional Champs (as far as could go)
1969 Class B Regional Champs (")
1971 Class B Regional Champs (")

1974 Class B State Champs
1995 2A State Champs
1998 2A State Champs
1999 2A State Champs
2000 2A State Champs
2001 2A State Champs
2005 2A State Champs.

Guess where the next one will come from?

[force1]

Originally posted by 75009Football
1968 Class B Regional Champs (as far as could go)
1969 Class B Regional Champs (")
1971 Class B Regional Champs (")

1974 Class B State Champs
1995 2A State Champs
1998 2A State Champs
1999 2A State Champs
2000 2A State Champs
2001 2A State Champs
2005 2A State Champs.

Guess where the next one will come from?

If and when yall drop down to 2A???:confused:

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by 75009Football
1968 Class B Regional Champs (as far as could go)
1969 Class B Regional Champs (")
1971 Class B Regional Champs (")

1974 Class B State Champs
1995 2A State Champs
1998 2A State Champs
1999 2A State Champs
2000 2A State Champs
2001 2A State Champs
2005 2A State Champs.

Guess where the next one will come from?


.

[CelinaProud]

Originally posted by STANG RED
:thinking:Hmmm, with a "talking out your butt" answer like that, I am left only to assume the real answer to my question must be zero.
:devil:

Ahhhhh grasshopper, but Christmas isn't here quite yet!

You're right though, we really should pack our 28 playoff appearances and seven state championships right up, because there's no way we'll make a ripple in 3A football.

Maybe someday, we'll get another few hundred students and learn how to play football. I mean, I could hope. OH PLEASE SANTA, BRING ME THAT FOR CHRISTMAS!

Yeah, more students, that'll do the trick.

Here, let me put my pants back on....I'm done talking out my butt for now!

Silly 'ole me with my high hopes and aspirations.:inlove::D :eek: :)

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by DaHop72
And a loss is a loss, doesn't matter if it's a close game or a donkey stomping. In fact at this point of the season a donkey stomping probably makes you feel better than losing on a last minute field goal.:p


That ain't no shirt. :D

[icu812]

Who has Snyder lost to?

[75009Football]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Thanks to a weak schedule.

Clay has almost 3,000 yds. kinda lop-sided eh?

He'll stay at "almost" for the rest of the year you think?

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by icu812
Who has Snyder lost to?



Monahans-first game of the season

Canyon-game before district started. More like a wake up game

[75009Football]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Compared to the others it sure looks like it. And for how many times I see him run it every game.

How many times will they put it in Clay's hands during a normal game? Any idea what his worst outing has been this year anyone? Just wondering how long they go with him if he gets bottled up?

[force1]

Originally posted by 75009Football
OK force1, I showed you mine. Now you show me yours. Or are YOU confused?
confused about when celina is goin to drop down to 2a and win another state championship? well you see we have won as many state championships in the 3a division as you have

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by force1
confused about when celina is goin to drop down to 2a and win another state championship? well you see we have won as many state championships in the 3a division as you have

Yes, and how many have you ever won?
I seem to recall SLC did not win all their titles in 5a......

[MN95]

Originally posted by force1
confused about when celina is goin to drop down to 2a and win another state championship? well you see we have won as many state championships in the 3a division as you have

OK then, let's see what would be a good comparison? How about your won/loss record, playoff record, and state finals appearances for the 4 years we have been in 3A?

Doubt you have the stomach to post that.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by force1
confused about when celina is goin to drop down to 2a and win another state championship? well you see we have won as many state championships in the 3a division as you have

How many in any have you won?
How many times have you been in the final in 3A?
How many years have you been in 3A?

Celina has been in 3A not quite 4 full years now. Year 1 was 2002 and we went 2 rounds. Year 2 was 2003 and we went 2 rounds. Year 3 was last year and we made the finals. This is year 4 and we are in the Semi's with you. We've made the Semi's 50% of the time.

Pick your best years and what are they in 3A. I am really interested.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by 75009Football
How many in any have you won?
How many times have you been in the final in 3A?
How many years have you been in 3A?

Celina has been in 3A not quite 4 full years now. Year 1 was 2002 and we went 2 rounds. Year 2 was 2003 and we went 2 rounds. Year 3 was last year and we made the finals. This is year 4 and we are in the Semi's with you. We've made the Semi's 50% of the time.

Pick your best years and what are they in 3A. I am really interested.

Come on guys. You are confusing snyder. Lets not clutter up their fantasy with reality.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by force1
confused about when celina is goin to drop down to 2a and win another state championship? well you see we have won as many state championships in the 3a division as you have

Your too slow force1.

Here you go:

1930 Class B Regional Champs (as far as could go)
1990 4A Round 3
2003 3A D1 Quarter Finals
2004 3A D2 Semi Finals
2006 3A D2 Round 3
2007 3A D2 Semi Finals (so far)

You have made the Semis two times also but you have been in 3A since at least the 50's and had a stint in 4A in the 90's.

Talk about talkin out of another orifice.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Come on guys. You are confusing snyder. Lets not clutter up their fantasy with reality.

I'm sorry. XXX OOO.

[CelinaProud]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Come on guys. You are confusing snyder. Lets not clutter up their fantasy with reality.

I don't know much, but I know the last two years of playoffs ONLY (2006-2007) Celina has scored 406 total points, and our opponents have scored a total of 118 points. I didn't take the time to do the math for the season in 3A over the 06-07 seasons but I can if you would like me to. GO CATS....By the way, I did add Snyder's #'s for the 06-07 playoffs as well/ 248 PF/ 109 PA

[runtherace]

Originally posted by 75009Football
Your too slow force1.

Here you go:

1930 Class B Regional Champs (as far as could go)
1990 4A Round 3
2003 3A D1 Quarter Finals
2004 3A D2 Semi Finals
2006 3A D2 Round 3
2007 3A D2 Semi Finals (so far)

You have made the Semis two times also but you have been in 3A since at least the 50's and had a stint in 4A in the 90's.

Talk about talkin out of another orifice.


Let's get the divisions straight and I realize you may not have been around that long but what is currently 3a is not what 3a was in the 50's thru 70's. When Snyder was in 4a in the 70's that was the largest school class and only one team went to the playoffs. Comparing playoff records of today with those is apples to oranges.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Well, we know Snyder is mainly a one horse team. Ya got a back with 60 percent of your yardage( give or take a little).
Troy Mccartney Celina
1029 yards
Charlie Waldrep
1530 yards
Seth Davis QB passing
1617 yards.

When it comes to receivers we don't have anyone with over 400 yards. Means lots of receivers all over the place.

These three stats account for 4176 yards.
We have 6626 for the year. That is roughly 67 percent. Means we have a better balance and a few more contributors that I won't list. Also, these guys played probably about 10 games in quarters. Not a bad job if I do say so myself.

Oh and one more stat of interest. We average giving up rushing yardage of

77 YARDS PER GAME.

[Who-dun-it!!?]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Well, we know Snyder is mainly a one horse team. Ya got a back with 60 percent of your yardage( give or take a little).
Troy Mccartney Celina
1029 yards
Charlie Waldrep
1530 yards
Seth Davis QB passing
1617 yards.

When it comes to receivers we don't have anyone with over 400 yards. Means lots of receivers all over the place.

These three stats account for 4176 yards.
We have 6626 for the year. That is roughly 67 percent. Means we have a better balance and a few more contributors that I won't list. Also, these guys played probably about 10 games in quarters. Not a bad job if I do say so myself.

Not a bad job at all. Celina is truly a tuff team. Snyder should be easy for them on paper. But it won't be played on paper, it'll be played on the field. Not saying that Snyder can't lose, just saying they won't give it away.

Shock the World Tigers!!!

[Who-dun-it!!?]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
[Oh and one more stat of interest. We average giving up rushing yardage of

77 YARDS PER GAME. [/B]

Thats great!!! Will only needs 71 for 3000!!!

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Who-dun-it!!?
Thats great!!! Will only needs 71 for 3000!!! And what will 3000 mean if they don't win, nothing.

[runtherace]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Well, we know Snyder is mainly a one horse team. Ya got a back with 60 percent of your yardage( give or take a little).
Troy Mccartney Celina
1029 yards
Charlie Waldrep
1530 yards
Seth Davis QB passing
1617 yards.

When it comes to receivers we don't have anyone with over 400 yards. Means lots of receivers all over the place.

These three stats account for 4176 yards.
We have 6626 for the year. That is roughly 67 percent. Means we have a better balance and a few more contributors that I won't list. Also, these guys played probably about 10 games in quarters. Not a bad job if I do say so myself.

Oh and one more stat of interest. We average giving up rushing yardage of

77 YARDS PER GAME.


I saw ya'll play sat. and I was very impressed; great offensive balance, tough hardnose defense, decent team speed, quality backs (qb included),and lots of big lineman. We truly are honored to get to the point where we play each other. I certainly wouldn't put your team down; then if we did win, it wouldn't be an accomplishment. It will take a tremendous effort to defeat Celina on sat. and I will be there in case it happens. I'm also excited to see we're losing another poll; it gives the kids even more locker room target practice. It's been that way every week.;)

[MN95]

I fully expect Snyder to be our toughest game of the season. I have always told my son, "fear no one, but respect everyone". I am looking forward to the matchup of Will Clay and our defense. Strength against strength.

The only thing that pulls me in the other direction, is a little voice that keeps telling me, "they only beat Argyle by 7". Argyle is our only common opponent this year, and it was only a scrimmage, but we handled them pretty good.

Looking forward to a great game from two deserving teams.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by runtherace
I saw ya'll play sat. and I was very impressed; great offensive balance, tough hardnose defense, decent team speed, quality backs (qb included),and lots of big lineman. We truly are honored to get to the point where we play each other. I certainly wouldn't put your team down; then if we did win, it wouldn't be an accomplishment. It will take a tremendous effort to defeat Celina on sat. and I will be there in case it happens. I'm also excited to see we're losing another poll; it gives the kids even more locker room target practice. It's been that way every week.;)

I agree. Putting Snyder down would lessen the vuctory if we are fortunate enough to win. The poll is secondary to the locker room material spewing from both sides of the fence in this one. Here's to a great game.http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/6032/razor8jh.gif May the best Orange team win. ;) :p

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
77 YARDS PER GAME.

That'll be interesting, Will averages around 200 a game. :rolleyes:

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Well, we know Snyder is mainly a one horse team. Ya got a back with 60 percent of your yardage( give or take a little).
Troy Mccartney Celina
1029 yards
Charlie Waldrep
1530 yards
Seth Davis QB passing
1617 yards.

When it comes to receivers we don't have anyone with over 400 yards. Means lots of receivers all over the place.

These three stats account for 4176 yards.
We have 6626 for the year. That is roughly 67 percent. Means we have a better balance and a few more contributors that I won't list. Also, these guys played probably about 10 games in quarters. Not a bad job if I do say so myself.

Oh and one more stat of interest. We average giving up rushing yardage of

77 YARDS PER GAME. But don't forget you only gave up 30 yards to Wakeland.;) ;)

[sinton66]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
I like Snyder....I just have a gut feeling they take this one in a close one.

Hmmmm, seems like you picked Pleasanton last week.:D

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by DaHop72
But don't forget you only gave up 30 yards to Wakeland.;) ;)

Well Actually that was 31 yards passing.

-1 yard rushing......

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Well Actually that was 31 yards passing.

-1 yard rushing...... Now BILLYFRED you are a stat man. Doesn't that come out to 30 yards?:p

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by runtherace
I saw ya'll play sat. and I was very impressed; great offensive balance, tough hardnose defense, decent team speed, quality backs (qb included),and lots of big lineman. We truly are honored to get to the point where we play each other. I certainly wouldn't put your team down; then if we did win, it wouldn't be an accomplishment. It will take a tremendous effort to defeat Celina on sat. and I will be there in case it happens. I'm also excited to see we're losing another poll; it gives the kids even more locker room target practice. It's been that way every week.;)

I agree. I am just havin a little fun with the younguns. Snyder looks pretty good.
I have West Texas roots and some of my family are coaches out that away.
My favorite cousin's husband is still coaching at Bronte and he said that clay had wheels and he does not come down easy. Sounds alot like our backs. They don't stop running till they hit the end zone or five guys finally get a hold of them.
I am looking forward to seeing some old fashioned West Texas football. That is one of the real reasons I like Celina. We play a lot more like the region 1 teams by and large. You see a lot of spread teams from around here.
I think we have seen it 7 or 8 times this year. 4 years ago we hardly saw it.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by MN95
I fully expect Snyder to be our toughest game of the season. I have always told my son, "fear no one, but respect everyone". I am looking forward to the matchup of Will Clay and our defense. Strength against strength.

The only thing that pulls me in the other direction, is a little voice that keeps telling me, "they only beat Argyle by 7". Argyle is our only common opponent this year, and it was only a scrimmage, but we handled them pretty good.

Looking forward to a great game from two deserving teams.

Well we know Argyle can play a little football. We have played them four straight years now. Two years in our district in 13 2a and scrimmages the last two years. In 05 they were d1 runners up while we won d2. I sure like them Eagles and pull for them when we can. And that does give you a little insight. Of all the teams around that snyder has played, Argyle is the team we really know well. That little voice does have a point ya know.

[BILLYFRED0000]

I just wanted to say that I have been havin fun on this thread. I hope we reach a 100 pages by game time.

Snyder folks, I am really looking forward to this game and seeing some West Texas folks. I went to College at ACU and shotwell was our home stadium. I grew up around there and will be going home and that is always fun. The game will be great and I hope only the best for you and yours and a safe trip and a great game for the state semi's. I will be there with pride for my Bobcats but I will be just as proud to see that region 1 is really getting back on the football map from West Texas not just from schools close to us such as Decatur etc.

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
You can talk about Rockdale all you want, it doesnt phase Go Blue lol



Blue is more like a person who supports teams that are undefeated...thats the way it seems. Im glad Snyder isn't undefeated cause they kno they can lose.

[TigerTennis]

Snyder has a lot of fight left in them and their not ready to give up. I think it will be a close game and you can hardly count snyder out.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by TigerTennis
Stats aren't the only thing that needs to be considered

I don't think he is considering stats as much as he is style of play. But he is wrong on one point. We are actually quite good at pass coverage. We only give up abou 70 yards a game to passing.
And when you consider that we have played 7 spread teams this year that have tried to pass that is pretty good.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by runtherace
Let's get the divisions straight and I realize you may not have been around that long but what is currently 3a is not what 3a was in the 50's thru 70's. When Snyder was in 4a in the 70's that was the largest school class and only one team went to the playoffs. Comparing playoff records of today with those is apples to oranges.

I've not been around that long but was around Angelo until mid-late 80's then came to the DFW area so I know a bit about WT football but dont make a claim to fame with my knowledge of it by any means. I used WOS87's info to get the stats and will post on it again to get it back on the front page to make it easier to get to if you want to see. (Sticky: The Final 12 - Playoff Appearances).

Thanks WOS87, your work always comes in handy.

[mrescape43]

Originally posted by gatordaze
So Will Clay's best game is 267 yards. He will surpass that this week? I look forward to his amazing talent!

Will's best game is 341 yds.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by TigerTennis
Snyder has a lot of fight left in them and their not ready to give up. I think it will be a close game and you can hardly count snyder out. 3 out of 4 and you are doing great. Everybody believes Snyder has a log of fight left in them and no one believes they are ready to give up and no one is counting them out. Snyder is going to fight to the finish with everything they have no matter what. If they dont, Celina will not respect them. If they do, watch our boys reach out and help Snyder up, and take Snyder's hand when they extend it after putting our boys on the ground. All the boys on the field will recognize effort and pride when they see it and will react accordingly.

[Snydertigersrul]

Originally posted by gatordaze
So Will Clay's best game is 267 yards. He will surpass that this week? I look forward to his amazing talent!


His high game is 334 yards, until this Saturday

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
U did not give him permission to edit that pic.!

You're exactly right....believe I'll go talk to my lawyer in the morning....better yet, I'll call him now.:)

[SUPERMANN5107]

STR let me know how many carries Will has. I was gonna go back thru the paper website but i was too lazy to do it

[Dominicfrank]

Celina wins by a lot !!!!!!

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

This game won't be a blow out from either side of the ball, it will be a very good game. Both of these teams are good or they wouldn't of made it this far, some you you smarta$$ people can say either of these teams have had it easy...but you just don't know what your talking about. I'm done talking trash with GoBlue and I think he's done also. Lets get this thread back to the game.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
Will will reach his goal of 3200. He means business now, and if he puts his mind to it...i guarentee that he will accomplish it. So if he somehow does not make it to 3200 yards for the season, we are to take it that he did not put his mind to it and it will be his fault he did not make it??? That is what you are trying to say???

I dont think I would quite put it in those terms. No, I dont think I would put it in anywhere near those terms. Thats a lot of pressure on the Tigers, much less on Will himself to get that many yards on the Celina D. Not sayin there aint a greater than -0- chance that it will happen, but, that'll be tough.

[MN95]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
No joke....I was thinking of banning Go Blue and 325 from this one....that would slow it WAY down!!:thinking:

You have my support, this has become ridiculous for those of us that want to discuss football.

[kepdawg]

Does anybody know the last time someone ran for 200+ yards against Celina?

[lynx_rufus]

I know Butch Ford is going to have Celina prepared. But in all honesty, Snyder's coach is one sharp guy. This is gonna be a good game. I can't wait!

Snyders Approach to Celina Simple as Always (http://reporternews.com/news/2007/dec/10/snyders-approach-to-celina-simple-as-always/)

[lynx_rufus]

kepdawg
Does anybody know the last time someone ran for 200+ yards against Celina?
Liberty Hill racked up 350 yds on the ground against Celina in last year's championship game. Bode had 194 of those.

Best answer I could find. But that should count. Ouch! :doh:

[lakers]

Originally posted by lynx_rufus
Liberty Hill racked up 350 yds on the ground against Celina in last year's championship game. Bode had 194 of those.

Best answer I could find. But that should count. Ouch! :doh:

well said...;)

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by lynx_rufus
Liberty Hill racked up 350 yds on the ground against Celina in last year's championship game. Bode had 194 of those.

Best answer I could find. But that should count. Ouch! :doh:

So, not in last year's championship game.

194 < 200 :)

[lakers]

Originally posted by kepdawg
So, not in last year's championship game.

194 < 200 :)

still 350, and have u ever heard the saying...

"Will Clay every play, Will Clay every play...."

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by lakers
still 350, and have u ever heard the saying...

"Will Clay every play, Will Clay every play...."

Which someone ran for 350?

Who's Will Clay? :thinking:

[HAN SING]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Which someone ran for 350?

Who's Will Clay? :thinking: Han Hear he small weak slow fellow .;)
http://www.snyder.esc14.net/applications/igallery/image_go.php?outVOU=$outVOU&ofolder=/web_disk/1-1/gallery-609&folder=/web_disk/1-1/gallery-609/preview&image=c8.jpg

[lakers]

Originally posted by HAN SING
Han Hear he small weak slow fellow .;)
http://www.snyder.esc14.net/applications/igallery/image_go.php?outVOU=$outVOU&ofolder=/web_disk/1-1/gallery-609&folder=/web_disk/1-1/gallery-609/preview&image=c8.jpg

haha

thank you Han Sing

[pirate4state]

STAY ON TOPIC = ACTUAL FOOTBALL POSTS

I removed 334 posts of just non-sense off this thread, if all you have to contribute is non-sense and fluff - go post it here (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76014)! Some people actually want to discuss THE GAME and not have to read through eleventy-three pages of CRAP! :mad:

If ANYONE thinks they'd like to get cute and not post about Celina vs. Snyder and the x's & o's of football you'll find yourself BENCHED until AFTER the game! Bet that!

Don't come crying to me or any of the other mods either because you didn't think we were serious!! :hand:

Have a good day! :)

Just so we are clear -- any posts AFTER this one that have nothing to do with the game WILL be deleted and you'll be benched from this thread! Got it? Good. :clap:

[lakers]

So what about the Meet and Greet for this game???

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by lakers
So what about the Meet and Greet for this game???

halftime at scoreboard. But we are eating afterwards but details are TBA.

[LEROY]

Celina 48----Snyder 13

[lakers]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
halftime at scoreboard. But we are eating afterwards but details are TBA.


dang it, i just realized that my cousins wedding is at 7 on saturday, so i can only make part of the game. I wish we would eat before the game, but that is kinda early...

[lynx_rufus]

Originally posted by kepdawg
So, not in last year's championship game.

194 < 200 :)
Originally posted by lakers
still 350, and have u ever heard the saying...

"Will Clay every play, Will Clay every play...."
Certainly, Will Clay could go off on Celina's defense, but that will all have to be up the gut behind that offensive line. Then when he does, he will get a mouth full of D'Anton Lynn.

Here is what I suspect, Celina will have two guys hitting Will Clay the moment the ball is snapped. I do not know how Celina does it, but they are so fast off of the snap.

You generally see a team relying on a quick QB keeping the ball and trying to beat the Bobcats.

I think Celina can afford to let Will Clay or the Snyder QB rattle off 2 or 3 long TD runs in this game. Which means Snyder's defense is on the field all day and Celina still wins by 3 TDs.

Liberty Hill's defense was very very good in last year's championship game. Celina gave up 3 TDs and even with that, they still had numerous chances to get Celina's 4th score. Celina just couldn't or didn't finish it.

That was last year and this season has been spent finishing games.

[kepdawg]

High 40's

North winds 10-15, gusts to 25

[lynx_rufus]

Originally posted by kepdawg
High 40's

North winds 10-15, gusts to 25
http://st.msn.com/as/wea3/i/en-us/saw/41.gif
Scattered Flurries
Hi: 50° Lo: 31°
Partly cloudy skies. High 50F and low 31F. Winds NW at 10 to 15 mph.
Precip chance 10%

[Old Tiger]

49-13 Celina

[Snydertigersrul]

62-0 Snyder

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
62-0 Snyder

So what kind of offensive formations do ya'll run out of? And what do you do in bad weather for practice?

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by lynx_rufus
http://st.msn.com/as/wea3/i/en-us/saw/41.gif
Scattered Flurries
Hi: 50° Lo: 31°
Partly cloudy skies. High 50F and low 31F. Winds NW at 10 to 15 mph.
Precip chance 10%

Echo? :confused:

Not like it will matter since neither team will put the ball in the air much.

[lynx_rufus]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Echo? :confused:

Not like it will matter since neither team will put the ball in the air much.
Echo? :D

No, liked the thought about the weather. Checked an alternate source and the possibility of snow. That would really make a mess out of this game.

[mrescape43]

Originally posted by 75009Football
How many in any have you won?
How many times have you been in the final in 3A?
How many years have you been in 3A?

Celina has been in 3A not quite 4 full years now. Year 1 was 2002 and we went 2 rounds. Year 2 was 2003 and we went 2 rounds. Year 3 was last year and we made the finals. This is year 4 and we are in the Semi's with you. We've made the Semi's 50% of the time.

Pick your best years and what are they in 3A. I am really interested.

Snyder has also been in the Semi's 2 of the last 4 years.

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by mrescape43
Snyder has also been in the Semi's 2 of the last 4 years.



Ever since coach Rogers came we have made the playoffs...this is his sixth season

[TigerTennis]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
Ever since coach Rogers came we have made the playoffs...this is his sixth season

Snyder has been a solid team for many years.

[TAMUGRAD]

Going to pull for the underdog in this one.

Go Snyder!

My in-laws are from that part of Texas.

One from the big city of Roby and the other is from Rotan, or actually Hobbs, Tx.

No football logic just feel a loyalty to the folks out west.

[TigerTennis]

Originally posted by TAMUGRAD
Going to pull for the underdog in this one.

Go Snyder!

My in-laws are from that part of Texas.

One from the big city of Roby and the other is from Rotan, or actually Hobbs, Tx.

No football logic just feel a loyalty to the folks out west.

Smart choice, Snyder has been the underdog nearly every week and we're still in it.

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

"We have been seeing these teams they have been playing and there D isn't nothing like ours, the boys are goin to bring it!" Thats a quote from a Snyder Tiger.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by TigerTennis
Snyder has been a solid team for many years. and celina has been a great team for many years

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
62-0 Snyder

I am going for Snyder, but let's not be delusional here! I would bet my house you aren't gonna beat them (if you beat them AT ALL) by more points than you did Lamesa!!

GOOD GRIEF!!:doh:

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
WHAT! read the context and you'll understand what she is saying.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
I kno what she was saying
Then why ask what? :confused: :rolleyes:

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
I kno what she was saying

Then you understand that this is going to be a hard fought game...I personally don't think either side is gonna run away with it....but I could be wrong.

I DO NOT think that one team will score 62 while the other scores nothing!

I DO have a little grasp on reality!!

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Then you understand that this is going to be a hard fought game...I personally don't think either side is gonna run away with it....but I could be wrong.

I DO NOT think that one team will score 62 while the other scores nothing!

I DO have a little grasp on reality!!


LOL there is kno way in h*** that the score could be 62-0.

It will be a very good game, to bad your not able to come see.

Snyder 35
Celina 28

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Then you understand that this is going to be a hard fought game...I personally don't think either side is gonna run away with it....but I could be wrong.

I DO NOT think that one team will score 62 while the other scores nothing!

I DO have a little grasp on reality!!

Now mom, I look at Snyder's D and Glen Rose and West both have equivalent Defenses with Snyder. They did not stop us. I don't think Snyder will stop us very well either. Just an honest opinion. If they can play ball control with Clay and score at least half of their possesions they can make it a game. But I would be surprised (assuming we don't make mistakes) if they stop us more than two or three times. I do not think their ground game is capable of the sustained output necessary to keep up with us against our d. All that gibberish really says I think that the best defense wins this game. And in that department it is not very close. We have the best rated D in the state and give up the fewest points. It has always been IMHO
a fact that defense wins championships. Of course this is all on paper. Maybe you can tell me what kind of offensive formations Snyder runs out of. So far none of them seem to know. And what little I have seen is just bits and pieces.

And BTW the offenses of our teams are closer with us being the number 3 rated O behind Gilmer and LH. Snyder is rated number 9.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
dude! everyone makes mistakes, so dont say "we dont make mistakes"

By mistakes I mean big ones like turnovers that lead to points. We turned the ball over 0 times at Glen Rose until the jv qb dropped one in the fourth and Glen Rose ran it in from about the 15. We won't make many execution mistakes. That is the nature of our team. We can get too pumped and jump sometimes but any good aggressive team will make that mistake.

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Now mom, I look at Snyder's D and Glen Rose and West both have equivalent Defenses with Snyder. They did not stop us. I don't think Snyder will stop us very well either. Just an honest opinion. If they can play ball control with Clay and score at least half of their possesions they can make it a game. But I would be surprised (assuming we don't make mistakes) if they stop us more than two or three times. I do not think their ground game is capable of the sustained output necessary to keep up with us against our d. All that gibberish really says I think that the best defense wins this game. And in that department it is not very close. We have the best rated D in the state and give up the fewest points. It has always been IMHO
a fact that defense wins championships. Of course this is all on paper. Maybe you can tell me what kind of offensive formations Snyder runs out of. So far none of them seem to know. And what little I have seen is just bits and pieces.

And BTW the offenses of our teams is closer with us being the number 3 rated O behind Gilmer and LH. Snyder is rated number 9. BILLYFRED, don't believe a thing you have read about the Snyder offense. We really run out of the spread 95% of the time and seldom run the ball. All the yardage figures you have seen are pure propaganda put out by the coaches and the sports editor of the Snyder Daily news.:D :D

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Maybe you can tell me what kind of offensive formations Snyder runs out of. So far none of them seem to know. And what little I have seen is just bits and pieces.



ROFLMAO!! You are asking me...ME...what kind of offensive formations they run out of??

When did I EVER give you the impression that I knew anything about that kind of stuff???

Honestly though...I read much the same about the Celina team last year, how LH couldn't hang with them, stats up to my elbows, yada yada yada...and well....ya know!!;)

[BILLYFRED0000]

We have a very good offense that points can show but I think a better indicator is the number of punts. We punted twice in the last three games if memory serves. I would be curious to know how many times Snyder punted against Vernon. Vernon has a top 10 D although their weakness would be a power game up the gut and off tackle which is what I think Snyder does best with it's solid offensive line.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
ROFLMAO!! You are asking me...ME...what kind of offensive formations they run out of??

When did I EVER give you the impression that I knew anything about that kind of stuff???

Honestly though...I read much the same about the Celina team last year, how LH couldn't hang with them, stats up to my elbows, yada yada yada...and well....ya know!!;)

Well the truth is we were not as good last year as this year and LH was the number 1 offense in the state last year with the number 12 defense. Snyder at number 9 and 44 are not even in the same zip code. And in fact our defense did it's job. Where I thought we would win was I did not believe their D could hang with our O. But I thought it would be close.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
We have a very good offense that points can show but I think a better indicator is the number of punts. We punted twice in the last three games if memory serves. I would be curious to know how many times Snyder punted against Vernon. Vernon has a top 10 D although their weakness would be a power game up the gut and off tackle which is what I think Snyder does best with it's solid offensive line.

You would have to ask someone from Snyder then...or look at the stats from that game.

I don't even keep up with stuff like that from MY team, much less someone elses!!:p :p

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by DaHop72
BILLYFRED, don't believe a thing you have read about the Snyder offense. We really run out of the spread 95% of the time and seldom run the ball. All the yardage figures you have seen are pure propaganda put out by the coaches and the sports editor of the Snyder Daily news.:D :D

Well that would be fine by me. The two best spread teams we faced scored 6 points against us with one have that famous 30 yards. And they gave RC fits.:D

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
We have a very good offense that points can show but I think a better indicator is the number of punts. We punted twice in the last three games if memory serves. I would be curious to know how many times Snyder punted against Vernon. Vernon has a top 10 D although their weakness would be a power game up the gut and off tackle which is what I think Snyder does best with it's solid offensive line. We punted once against Argyle and did not punt against Vernon.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by DaHop72
We punted once against Argyle and did not punt against Vernon.

That is kind of what I expected against vernon. They play their scheme well but were out manned in the trenches. I was hopin to play them again cause I kinda knew
what to expect and their O just was not up to the drill. Much like last years team. Snyder however has a ton of O and the D is the question mark.

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
That is kind of what I expected against vernon. They play their scheme well but were out manned in the trenches. I was hopin to play them again cause I kinda knew
what to expect and their O just was not up to the drill. Much like last years team. Snyder however has a ton of O and the D is the question mark. If you are were a Dallas Cowboy fan in the Landry days that is what the Tiger defense reminds me of. Not the quality of the Cowboys but it really is a bend but don't break type defense, not good on a fan's blood pressure.

[sharkb8er]

This is my first post on this thread and haven't had the opportunity to read all the posts. I am a snyder graduate and currently living in East Texas. I just wanted to wish the Tigers good luck this week. Ya'll need to be hoping for a cold nasty day to play on this week cause these east texas boys don't know anything about playing in those conditions. Don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but Celina is the real deal. The Tigers will need to bring their A game or will fall short of the championship as did Abilene Wyle.

[tdandchuckie]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Now mom, I look at Snyder's D and Glen Rose and West both have equivalent Defenses with Snyder. They did not stop us. I don't think Snyder will stop us very well either. Just an honest opinion. If they can play ball control with Clay and score at least half of their possesions they can make it a game. But I would be surprised (assuming we don't make mistakes) if they stop us more than two or three times. I do not think their ground game is capable of the sustained output necessary to keep up with us against our d. All that gibberish really says I think that the best defense wins this game. And in that department it is not very close. We have the best rated D in the state and give up the fewest points. It has always been IMHO
a fact that defense wins championships. Of course this is all on paper. Maybe you can tell me what kind of offensive formations Snyder runs out of. So far none of them seem to know. And what little I have seen is just bits and pieces.

And BTW the offenses of our teams are closer with us being the number 3 rated O behind Gilmer and LH. Snyder is rated number 9. You cannot possibly believe that West or Glen Rose defenses in any way compare to Snyders.You are using statistics that are meaningless because we have not played the same competition.Snyder took the hard way to the region 1 championship thru much tougher teams and came out looking pretty good.You can believe what you want with your stats but you will be suprised how good our defense is.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by DaHop72
If you are were a Dallas Cowboy fan in the Landry days that is what the Tiger defense reminds me off. Not the quality of the Cowboys but it really is a bend but don't break type defense, not good on a fan's blood pressure.

Kinda like being a fan of the Cardiac Cards.

I like excitin games as long as we win. Although last year the LH game was worth the price of admission and I would not be surprised if this game was very good too. I just hope weather conditions permit each team to play to it's strengths rather than be dictated to.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Kinda like being a fan of the Cardiac Cards.

I like excitin games as long as we win. Although last year the LH game was worth the price of admission and I would not be surprised if this game was very good too. I just hope weather conditions permit each team to play to it's strengths rather than be dictated to.

Amen to that!! I hate the "weather excuse"....like BOTH teams aren't facing the same obstacle??:doh:

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Kinda like being a fan of the Cardiac Cards.

I like excitin games as long as we win. Although last year the LH game was worth the price of admission and I would not be surprised if this game was very good too. I just hope weather conditions permit each team to play to it's strengths rather than be dictated to.


The tigers really havent played in any rain besides the Argyle game but the cold doesnt make them any different.

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by DaHop72
not good on a fan's blood pressure.

LOL, you mean the "older" fans.:D :D


Some games make me really nervous and jumpy lol

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by tdandchuckie
You cannot possibly believe that West or Glen Rose defenses in any way compare to Snyders.You are using statistics that are meaningless because we have not played the same competition.Snyder took the hard way to the region 1 championship thru much tougher teams and came out looking pretty good.You can believe what you want with your stats but you will be suprised how good our defense is.

This is not about statistics. It is about the quality of the offenses you played vs the abilities of your D. A good example would be Argyle. They would not score on us or might score once. I can say that with confidence because we have played their team the last four years and they have in four games scored a total of 31 points in all of those games and scrimmages. This year they scored once. So I have a snap shot.
Vernon scored twice on us last year with a better O than this year. I have done a lot of reading about who played who and what each team does and your D is statistically if you wish to know rated 44 while Glen Rose
was 31 and West was rated at 26. In any matrix of linearization that puts them on roughly the same tier. And both their Defenses were built to stop the run against good smashmouth teams. We happen to play smashmouth well but pass well too.

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
This is not about statistics. It is about the quality of the offenses you played vs the abilities of your D. A good example would be Argyle. They would not score on us or might score once. I can say that with confidence because we have played their team the last four years and they have in four games scored a total of 31 points in all of those games and scrimmages. This year they scored once. So I have a snap shot.
Vernon scored twice on us last year with a better O than this year. I have done a lot of reading about who played who and what each team does and your D is statistically if you wish to know rated 44 while Glen Rose
was 31 and West was rated at 26.

Ranks dont mean jack. You can't predict anything!

If Celina played Argyle for the 3rd round, you don't know if they would of or wouldn't of scored more than once!

What matters is who ever comes to play on game day! We'll see you there!

[tdandchuckie]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
This is not about statistics. It is about the quality of the offenses you played vs the abilities of your D. A good example would be Argyle. They would not score on us or might score once. I can say that with confidence because we have played their team the last four years and they have in four games scored a total of 31 points in all of those games and scrimmages. This year they scored once. So I have a snap shot.
Vernon scored twice on us last year with a better O than this year. I have done a lot of reading about who played who and what each team does and your D is statistically if you wish to know rated 44 while Glen Rose
was 31 and West was rated at 26. Thats all ive been reading about for days is stats.You truely believe that the quality of opponent for Celina this year has been greater than that of Snyder.We have consistantly gotten better over the season and are not even close to the same defense that started the year.Stats will get you in trouble every time.

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
This is not about statistics. It is about the quality of the offenses you played vs the abilities of your D. A good example would be Argyle. They would not score on us or might score once. I can say that with confidence because we have played their team the last four years and they have in four games scored a total of 31 points in all of those games and scrimmages. This year they scored once.

You scrimmaged Argyle before the season even started.:rolleyes: Sorry, but I don't remember seeing a better QB than I saw in JJ Harp. Maybe it was a good night for him, I don't know....but he was sharp and precise, and could scramble with the best of them. He was much better than Vernon's touted QB. Hard to compare a team you might have saw in a scrimmage to a team in week 12.

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
You scrimmaged Argyle before the season even started.:rolleyes: Sorry, but I don't remember seeing a better QB than I saw in JJ Harp. Maybe it was a good night for him, I don't know....but he was sharp and precise, and could scramble with the best of them. He was much better than Vernon's touted QB. Hard to compare a team you might have saw in a scrimmage to a team in week 12.



Argyle and every other team in the state improves from the first of the year, and JJ Harp is one of the best QB's in the state, he might even be better than ole Seth Davis. But i'm pretty dang sure that Argyle would score on Celina more than once.

[kepdawg]

How bad Celina would beat Argyle doesn't matter!

Let's get focused on how bad Celina will beat Snyder!

[tdandchuckie]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
This is not about statistics. It is about the quality of the offenses you played vs the abilities of your D. A good example would be Argyle. They would not score on us or might score once. I can say that with confidence because we have played their team the last four years and they have in four games scored a total of 31 points in all of those games and scrimmages. This year they scored once. So I have a snap shot.
Vernon scored twice on us last year with a better O than this year. I have done a lot of reading about who played who and what each team does and your D is statistically if you wish to know rated 44 while Glen Rose
was 31 and West was rated at 26. In any matrix of linearization that puts them on roughly the same tier. And both their Defenses were built to stop the run against good smashmouth teams. We happen to play smashmouth well but pass well too. Please dont take this the wrong way but i am very impressed by your dedication to Celina and the amount of work you obviously put in to supporting them.

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
:rolleyes:

Roll your eyes all you want!

There's no point in focusing on other teams!

Synder and Celina are the two teams playing!

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by tdandchuckie
Please dont take this the wrong way but i am very impressed by your dedication to Celina and the amount of work you obviously put in to supporting them.

I just enjoy the nuts and bolts of how teams work. This years cowboys are a study in fascination. Romo playing loose makes them a completely different team and you never know what will happen but you expect them to win. An almost magical quality. Celina has some things about them than cannot be cast in statistical light. Most do not understand the dedication. They say things like we have off season programs too. Its not about programs, it is about participation. We have 230 boys in HS. 135 play football and a very dedicated football. Can't really explain it cause you just have to see it. You usually do on the field.

[tdandchuckie]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
I just enjoy the nuts and bolts of how teams work. This years cowboys are a study in fascination. Romo playing loose makes them a completely different team and you never know what will happen but you expect them to win. An almost magical quality. Celina has some things about them than cannot be cast in statistical light. Most do not understand the dedication. They say things like we have off season programs too. Its not about programs, it is about participation. We have 230 boys in HS. 135 play football and a very dedicated football. Can't really explain it cause you just have to see it. You usually do on the field. I am really looking forward to seeing Celina in action.I sorta take a different approach to things but dedication in any form is impressive

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Roll your eyes all you want!

There's no point in focusing on other teams!

Synder and Celina are the two teams playing!

You are right kep. Right as rain on that one.
What do you think? I have not seen snyder in person but people I know and trust well say they have the weakest D of all the teams still standing. Heresay of course but these guys are more serious about the game than I am.

[tdandchuckie]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
I just enjoy the nuts and bolts of how teams work. This years cowboys are a study in fascination. Romo playing loose makes them a completely different team and you never know what will happen but you expect them to win. An almost magical quality. Celina has some things about them than cannot be cast in statistical light. Most do not understand the dedication. They say things like we have off season programs too. Its not about programs, it is about participation. We have 230 boys in HS. 135 play football and a very dedicated football. Can't really explain it cause you just have to see it. You usually do on the field. I am really looking forward to seeing Celina in action.I sorta take a different approach to things but dedication in any form is impressive.The same can also be said of Snyder.These boys believe in their coaches and their program but more importantly they believe in each other-always have always will.

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
You are right kep. Right as rain on that one.
What do you think? I have not seen snyder in person but people I know and trust well say they have the weakest D of all the teams still standing. Heresay of course but these guys are more serious about the game than I am. I'm not answering for kep, but I talked to a man at the game who has seen both teams. He is a total neutral and he has seen both teams play and he felt like Snyder could play with Celina so that is all I have to go on as well. He never said we could beat the Bobcats just that we could compete.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by tdandchuckie
I am really looking forward to seeing Celina in action.I sorta take a different approach to things but dedication in any form is impressive.The same can also be said of Snyder.These boys believe in their coaches and their program but more importantly they believe in each other-always have always will.

Well I expect it to be a good game. I believe that weather will be a factor which will limit the game some. Since Celina passes more I expect the conditions to favor Snyder a little. And it is a tough 4 hour bus ride for us. That will take its toll as well. Hard to say just how well we will play.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by DaHop72
I'm not answering for kep, but I talked to a man at the game who has seen both teams. He is a total neutral and he has seen both teams play and he felt like Snyder could play with Celina so that is all I have to go on as well. He never said we could beat the Bobcats just that we could compete.

I think they can too. I just believe their achilles heel will probably be their D. One other question is about their depth. We don't really have any dedicated two way players. We do have situational two ways.

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Well I expect it to be a good game. I believe that weather will be a factor which will limit the game some. Since Celina passes more I expect the conditions to favor Snyder a little. And it is a tough 4 hour bus ride for us. That will take its toll as well. Hard to say just how well we will play.



Yea who knows until staurday:confused:

I can't wait for the game, this week is going by relly fast for me.

[Old Tiger]

I'll say this in spirit of Celina. The quote was from one of my offensive coaches at Rockdale.



"Piss on em and feed em fish"


What it means....I don't know but damnit it fired us up!

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
You are right kep. Right as rain on that one.
What do you think? I have not seen snyder in person but people I know and trust well say they have the weakest D of all the teams still standing. Heresay of course but these guys are more serious about the game than I am.



I wouldn't say week, our Defense makes a stand when it has to. We can just put Bubba (#72) in, he weighs 325 and hes quick. He will land on you and u'll be suprised that he caught yuh lol.

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by Go Blue
I'll say this in spirit of Celina. The quote was from one of my offensive coaches at Rockdale.



"Piss on em and feed em fish"


What it means....I don't know but damnit it fired us up!


Your some sick sons of b***** if that fired you up, lol thats funny.

[lynx_rufus]

Originally posted by DaHop72
I'm not answering for kep, but I talked to a man at the game who has seen both teams. He is a total neutral and he has seen both teams play and he felt like Snyder could play with Celina so that is all I have to go on as well. He never said we could beat the Bobcats just that we could compete.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO :inlove:

The mods wanted more Xs and Os on this thread so, I love you man!

By the way that is 11 Xs and 11 Os.

[mrescape43]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
We have a very good offense that points can show but I think a better indicator is the number of punts. We punted twice in the last three games if memory serves. I would be curious to know how many times Snyder punted against Vernon. Vernon has a top 10 D although their weakness would be a power game up the gut and off tackle which is what I think Snyder does best with it's solid offensive line.

Snyder didn't punt agains Vernon!

[SNYDER325TIGERS]

Originally posted by mrescape43
Snyder didn't punt agains Vernon!


They sure didn't! They punted against us several time though

[lynx_rufus]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
They sure didn't! They punted against us several time though
How many points did you score? No punts?

Well, You must have an offense that is stoppable and have either turned the ball over by mistake or on downs.

My confidence has just been rejuvenated.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
Your some sick sons of b***** if that fired you up, lol thats funny. :doh: :doh: You just don't get it do you? :dispntd:

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by lynx_rufus
How many points did you score? No punts?

Well, You must have an offense that is stoppable and have either turned the ball over by mistake or on downs.

My confidence has just been rejuvenated. We did have one turnover. If you run the ball and drive the length of the field if shortens a game, surely another smash mouth football team would know that.:D :D

[kepdawg]

I am answering for Kep! :D

What Kep thinks:

Kep thinks more of the Celina fanbase should exercise humility

Kep used to be a big fan of Celina

Kep finds it harder to be a fan of Celina because of Celina fans

Kep thinks that since he has never lived in Celina or had a child attend Celina schools that it doesn't matter what Kep thinks anyway

Kep is sick of the attitude of many of the Celina fans

Kep wants Celina to win against Snyder and to win an 8th state championship

Kep thinks it might not be so bad for the good of the community if Celina gets denied again

Kep thinks by now anyone from Celina has already quit reading and is typing their reply to blast Kep for what he thinks

Kep doesn't care

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by kepdawg
I am answering for Kep! :D

What Kep thinks:

Kep thinks more of the Celina fanbase should exercise humility

Kep used to be a big fan of Celina

Kep finds it harder to be a fan of Celina because of Celina fans

Kep thinks that since he has never lived in Celina or had a child attend Celina schools that it doesn't matter what Kep thinks anyway

Kep is sick of the attitude of many of the Celina fans

Kep wants Celina to win against Snyder and to win an 8th state championship

Kep thinks it might not be so bad for the good of the community if Celina gets denied again

Kep thinks by now anyone from Celina has already quit reading and is typing their reply to blast Kep for what he thinks

Kep doesn't care

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5809/roflsmiliemn4.gifhttp://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5809/roflsmiliemn4.gifhttp://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5809/roflsmiliemn4.gifhttp://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5809/roflsmiliemn4.gif
And that my friend is kep being kep.




:D

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by kepdawg
I am answering for Kep! :D

What Kep thinks:

Kep thinks more of the Celina fanbase should exercise humility

Kep used to be a big fan of Celina

Kep finds it harder to be a fan of Celina because of Celina fans

Kep thinks that since he has never lived in Celina or had a child attend Celina schools that it doesn't matter what Kep thinks anyway

Kep is sick of the attitude of many of the Celina fans

Kep wants Celina to win against Snyder and to win an 8th state championship

Kep thinks it might not be so bad for the good of the community if Celina gets denied again

Kep thinks by now anyone from Celina has already quit reading and is typing their reply to blast Kep for what he thinks

Kep doesn't care


YEAH WHAT HE SAID:clap:

[BILLYFRED0000]

tO QUOTE MONTY PYTHON....

OH I am a lumber jack and i'm ok
I work all night and I sleep all day

I cut down trees. I skip and jump.
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars.

He cuts down trees. He skips and jumps.
He likes to press wild flowers.
He puts on women's clothing
And hangs around in bars?!

I'm (He's) a lumberjack, and I'm (he's) okay.
I (He) sleep(s) all night and I (he) work(s) all day.

I cut down trees. I wear high heels,
Suspendies, and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie,
Just like my dear Mama (or Papa in later versions)
The game will be 0 0 when it starts
And that is my prediction for the game
:D :D

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by STiger24
quote:
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Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
Your some sick sons of b***** if that fired you up, lol thats funny.
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You just don't get it do you?


__________________


DANNNGGG Kolby:hairpunk: you benched, see how it feels to be benched! I'm guessing you're his cousin, 2010?

[STiger24]

Originally posted by Go Blue
I'm guessing you're his cousin, 2010?


I was referring to baseball

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by STiger24
I was referring to baseball Why would you be referring to baseball on a football thread? Especially since this is a semi final game against Celina. Snyders biggest game of their life.


busted.

[STiger24]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Why would you be referring to baseball on a football thread? Especially since this is a semi final game against Celina. Snyders biggest game of their life.


busted.


dude you dont have any idea what your talking about. Its a thing that only 325 would get.

[STANG RED]

Originally posted by STiger24
dude you dont have any idea what your talking about. Its a thing that only 325 would get.

Now thats a scary thought.:eek:

[lynx_rufus]

Originally posted by kepdawg
I am answering for Kep! :D

What Kep thinks:

. . .

Kep thinks by now anyone from Celina has already quit reading and is typing their reply to blast Kep for what he thinks

Kep doesn't care
Ha, Ha, Ha, OK, I will blast KEP. :D Obviously KEP does care and wanted the attention. Otherwise, KEP would be discussing basketball right now.

As Celina knows and Liberty Hill fans are finding out, success in your team's program means that other program's fans will demand that you enjoy high school football less.

What KEP doesn't know is Celina fans have decided to enjoy the success of its towns high school football.

The team we pull for has worked hard this year and have gone undefeated and we are proud of them. But, as with any team, they can be beat. Which happened last at the hands of Liberty Hill and each week could happen at the hands of the next team on their schedule.

I am pleased as punch that my kids get to learn from Butch Ford, Bill Elliott, Troy Davis, James Evans, Gene Crook, Rick Jones, Roger Kincaid, Aaron Ford, Gregg Moore, Dusty Hutson, Chad Worrell, Jamie Ellis, Bill Hemby, Loretta Francis, Billy Coleman, Joshua Tabor, Ted Rohan, Dedra Rohan, Ramona Thiel, Jordan Davis and Kyle Sheridan. And I do not want to overlook the praise all the teachers and administrators of the Celina Independent School District deserve as well. Without a bunch of fine people like these, Celina would not be as great a place as it is.

So, bring on the Tigers. I expect that our young men and the rest of student body that cheers for them, are ready to out play and out cheer those folks from Snyder. They are a great bunch of kids.

I won't fault KEP for pulling for what you perceive as the underdog.

Snyder is highly regarded, but does KEP really expect a Celina fan to say, "Oh yeah Snyder, you will beat the Bobcats this Saturday?"

To be honest, I am surprised every time a team scores on Celina's defense. Why? Because the young men from Celina play hard every play and refuse to be man handled. They are an amazing bunch athletes and they surprise me each and every week.

So, yes if Celina gives up a touchdown to Snyder it will be a surprise to me.

And I have a suspicion that Snyder fans will be surprised if Celina scores on their well prepared team too.

But let me ease the Snyder fan's anxiousness.

Celina 42 Snyder 0 :eek: :eek: :eek:

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by lynx_rufus




I won't fault KEP for pulling for what you perceive as the underdog.







Originally posted by kepdawg


Kep wants Celina to win against Snyder and to win an 8th state championship




And Kep wore a CELINA shirt to the Snyder/Vernon game. But at least he did sit on Snyder's side.:D :D :D

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by DaHop72
And Kep wore a CELINA shirt to the Snyder/Vernon game. But at least he did sit on Snyder's side.:D :D :D

Maybe he thinks Celina is the underdog! :thinking:

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by lynx_rufus
What KEP doesn't know is Celina fans have decided to enjoy the success of its towns high school football.


I'm sorry! I apologize for any inappropriate or insensitive comments! I did not realize that Celina fans have decided to enjoy the success of its towns high school football! :thinking:

Are you serious? Celina fans decided to enjoy the success? You have got to be kidding me! So, when did this start? At what point were the fans not enjoying the success? I don't have a problem with enjoying the success of their team! It is expected! I just miss the days when the fans could enjoy the success with some humility! ;)

[lynx_rufus]

Originally posted by kepdawg
. . . Are you serious? . . . I just miss the days when the fans could enjoy the success with some humility! ;)
Ahem, am I serious? Never entirely . . . thus the whole Shakes signature. Did that escape you?

You wanted to be blasted. So, I blasted you! :D

And as far as the humility. Let me think about that. :thinking:

Do you seriously want me to show you the non-humble Rufus? :eek:

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by lynx_rufus
Ahem, am I serious? Never entirely . . . thus the whole Shakes signature. Did that escape you?

You wanted to be blasted. So, I blasted you! :D

And as far as the humility. Let me think about that. :thinking:

Do you seriously want me to show you the non-humble Rufus? :eek:

Sorry, I have sigs disabled, so yes anything in your sig did escape me!

[kepdawg]

And by the way...

Celina 49
Snyder 17

[Daddy D 11]

42-7 Celina

[TigerTennis]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
42-7 Celina

42-7? Snyder only score 1 td? you have got to be kidding me

[mustang04]

Snyder wins representing west texas in flying colors!

GO TIGERS!!!:clap:

[TigerTennis]

Originally posted by mustang04
Snyder wins representing west texas in flying colors!

GO TIGERS!!!:clap:

theres a west tex rep:clap:

[bobcat1]

I would like for someone (not a 3.25 type kid) to tell me approximately how many yards Clay and Day will get Saturday on Celina's defense. Will their O-Line dominate our defense? How many times will their defense make us punt?

[DaHop72]

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff239/DaHop72/bobcat1.jpg vs. http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff239/DaHop72/hop72-2.jpg Okay, here is how it is going down. Since it's pretty obvious that the game will be decided on this board and not by the players here is my suggestion.

bobcat1 and I will meet at the 50 yard line at 3:00 Saturday afternoon in a best 2 out of 3 falls Texas Death match. I figure bobcat has the height and a litte weight advantage and I can only hope that my speed is better and maybe I can outlast him.

If we can't last until 4:00 or there is not a winner than I guess we will have to let the players decide it on the field.:D :D :D :D

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by bobcat1
I would like for someone (not a 3.25 type kid) to tell me approximately how many yards Clay and Day will get Saturday on Celina's defense. Will their O-Line dominate our defense? How many times will their defense make us punt?

Well, those are the million dollar questions. The answers will be told on Saturday.

However, it's hard for me to believe that Clay/Day/Arrendale are not going to get their yards.

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by bobcat1
I would like for someone (not a 3.25 type kid) to tell me approximately how many yards Clay and Day will get Saturday on Celina's defense. Will their O-Line dominate our defense? How many times will their defense make us punt? I would love to be able to take an educated guess on this one but without seeing the Bobcats play I think it would just be a shot in the dark and a very uneducated guess on my part. I know what I am hoping for though.:devil: :devil:

[kepdawg]

Anybody have a link to the stats from the Synder/Vernon game?

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Anybody have a link to the stats from the Synder/Vernon game?

Link (http://stats.reporternews.com/football/boys/schedules/games/3542/results/)

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
Link (http://stats.reporternews.com/football/boys/schedules/games/3542/results/)

Thank you!

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by bobcat1
I would like for someone (not a 3.25 type kid) to tell me approximately how many yards Clay and Day will get Saturday on Celina's defense. Will their O-Line dominate our defense? How many times will their defense make us punt?

I have been asking some of the same questions and have received very little input. Since I don't get to watch tape I wondered if anyone from Snyder would fill me in. All I get is clay will get 300 yards.
The last time anyone got over 150 was that Garrison title game we won in 02.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by lakers
still 350, and have u ever heard the saying...

"Will Clay every play, Will Clay every play...."

Each team can count on getting their hands on the ball about 5-6 times each half. Each time Snyder gets the ball they go three and out, he will touch the ball 36 times this game. That is, if he does not punt, punt return, kick, or kick return also. I don't know, maybe he'll get it a time or two more.

Really, when he's dishing it out it does not hurt so bad. But when there is nothing else to really worry about, the Boys can tee off on him and they will cause him to hurt before the games over. They have done it to other high profile backs before that were gobbling up yardage at an astonishing rate. Will is one that fits that description.

It will be fun to see how this one turns out. See you Saturday.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
Link (http://stats.reporternews.com/football/boys/schedules/games/3542/results/)

Thanks for the link. Two things jump out.

Vernon, with an average to above average O got 383 yards and passed for 105 when that is clearly not their strength. The other is stop Will Clay and the offense of snyder drops off.

Vernon plays solid but not outstanding D and they do not play O as well as last years squad. I was glad to see them put it together kinda like last year toward the end of the season. Those boys always find a way to compete even short handed.

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
The last time anyone got over 150 was that Garrison title game we won in 02.

According to what I read, Liberty Hill's Bode got 184 and Allman got 83 in last year's championship game. Bode averaged almost 18 yards per carry and Allman 7 against the mighty Celina defense.:eek: