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Maroon87
12-04-2007, 08:19 PM
...the Tigers pull off a monster deal.

Tigers send top prospects to Marlins for Cabrera, Willis
ESPN.com news services


The Florida Marlins and Detroit Tigers have agreed in principle on a trade that will send Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis to Detroit for key prospects, sources told ESPN's Peter Gammons on Tuesday.

The Tigers would send outfielder Cameron Maybin, pitcher Andrew Miller, catcher Mike Rabelo and three other minor league pitchers to the Marlins.

The deal is expected to be announced Tuesday night when the physicals and paperwork are completed.

"It's very serious, but nothing is finalized yet because some issues need to get worked out," Tigers manager Jim Leyland told The Associated Press.

Miller was Detroit's top pick in the 2006 draft and went 5-5 in 13 starts after being called up last summer. Maybin was the Tigers' first pick in 2005 and shot through the farm system, hitting .143 in 24 major league games, Rabelo batted .256 in 51 games, and one of the other pitchers, 23-year-old Eulogio De La Cruz , appeared in six games for the Tigers, hitting 100 mph on the radar gun.

Willis was on vacation when he heard the news.

"I'm in Mexico right now with my family. I'm kind of busy," he told The Associated Press.

The move appears motivated by Florida's ever-present monetary concerns.

Cabrera earned $7.4 million this past season and was due to make more than $10 million in 2008.

Willis made $6.45 million in 2007 on a one-year contract and will be arbitration eligible again this season.

Florida didn't even approach the Tigers until Tuesday morning. The Marlins told the Tigers they could have the two stars for those six players, then Detroit called back about two hours later and agreed.

"If it does happen, obviously they're getting two very good players," said Yankees manager Joe Girardi, who managed the Marlins in 2006. "Miguel Cabrera is one of the finest hitters in the game. He can do so many things with a bat, whether you want him to hit a home run for you, you want to hit and run, work the count, get on base. And Dontrelle Willis has been one of the premier lefties in the National League."

Detroit had not been considered a contender for Cabrera or Willis.

"It was kind of like, wow, when I heard. I halfway expected one of them to get traded, but not both in the same deal. So it's a little bit of a shock," Marlins left fielder Josh Willingham said.

"It's deflating because they're great teammates and good friends. It's going to be hard not seeing them around. I know we got some good players in the deal, but Miguel and Dontrelle are proven big league players, and it's going to be tough to fill those roles. Miguel brings you more than 100 RBIs, 30 home runs and a .300 batting average, and while Dontrelle had a disappointing year last year, he's a workhorse. He's going to eat up 200 innings and he's always healthy. It will be tough to replace those guys."

Questions about Cabrera's conditioning came up as he was shopped this offseason, but he has apparently been working out.

"He looks good," said Los Angeles Angels catcher Mike Napoli, who has been training with Cabrera for the last three weeks, according to the Los Angeles Times. "He's starting to slim down, and he's getting real strong."

Cabrera, who is a four-time All-Star, hit .320 with 34 home runs and 119 RBIs last season for the Marlins. He has a career .313 batting average over five seasons with the Marlins, as well as a career .542 slugging percentage.

But Cabrera, who was listed at 185 pounds when he was called up to the majors in 2003, played 2007 at about 255 pounds and made an NL-high 23 errors at third.

Trainer Sean O'Brien, who has been working with Cabrera, didn't say how much weight he has lost. "But he's changing his body composition," O'Brien said, according to the Times. "He's leaner. He's combining weight loss with an increase in muscle mass."

"I told the Marlins he's going to be in the best shape you've ever seen him in," White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said, according to the Times. "Whoever gets this guy is going to have a heck of a ballplayer with a different mentality. He's a big man and he has to take care of himself. ... He has the power and talent to be one of the best players ever."

Willis has been an All-Star twice in his five-year career. The 2003 Rookie of the Year was 10-15 with a 5.17 ERA last season, his second year in a row with declining numbers. In 2005 the left-hander was 22-10 with a 2.63 ERA and was second in Cy Young balloting.

Willis started this past season 5-1 in April and 2-2 in May, but he went 1-11 over June, July and August.

Peter Gammons is a baseball analyst for ESPN. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

TexanFan4Life
12-04-2007, 08:21 PM
This is a good deal for the Marlins. Having 2 superstar names on their roster full of inexperience was getting them nowhere.

zebrablue2
12-04-2007, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by TexanFan4Life
This is a good deal for the Marlins. Having 2 superstar names on their roster full of inexperience was getting them nowhere.


and they will win the world series again in about 4 or 5 years with a low payroll, and then gut the team. oh well, at least they have 2 world championships to their credit. maybe this is the way to do it george, LOL....

TexanFan4Life
12-04-2007, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by zebrablue2
and they will win the world series again in about 4 or 5 years with a low payroll, and then gut the team. oh well, at least they have 2 world championships to their credit. maybe this is the way to do it george, LOL....

Look at the Rockies. They have a similar payroll to the Marlins and they finally got there.

On a brighter note, I hear the Astros are trying to get Miguel Tejada and Eric Gagne.

I need an avatar. At the rate I post, I'll probably have my 1500th post by August 2009. :D

txkmom
12-04-2007, 08:51 PM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

VWG
12-04-2007, 09:51 PM
I wouldn't be too excited about the Stros getting Gagne. Has lost velocity, and didn't perform well down the stretch for the Red Sox.
I like the trade for the Marlins, the Miller kid from UNC should be a good one for a long time. Tigers get two good players which will definitely shore up their lineup. Only time will tell how the Marlins side will pan out.

eagles_victory
12-05-2007, 01:04 AM
I cant believe they traded Cameron Maybin

Sweetwater Red
12-05-2007, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by eagles_victory
I cant believe they traded Cameron Maybin

It's just a case alot of teams face win now or build for tomorrow.
Curtis Granderson's play made this an easier decision for Dave
Dombroski.

Detroit new look line up.

1. Curtis Granderson (CF)
2. Placido Polanco (2B)
3. Gary Shefield (DH)
4. Miguel Cabrera (3B)
5. Magglio Ordonez (RF)
6. Carlos Guillen (1B)
7. Edgar Renteria (SS)
8. Ivan Rodriguez (C)
9. Jacque Jones (LF)


Staring rotation.

Justin Verlander
Jeremy Bonderman
Kenny Rodgers
Dontelle Willis
Nate Robertson

Who needs a bull pen when it's gonna be 15-0 going into the
seventh inning?

:D :D :D :D :D :D

pirate4state
12-05-2007, 11:09 AM
:clap: :clap:

Cabrera, Willis & Pudge together again. I like it!!

coach
12-05-2007, 11:10 AM
dont foget kenny rogers!!!

Bearkat
12-05-2007, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
It's just a case alot of teams face win now or build for tomorrow.
Curtis Granderson's play made this an easier decision for Dave
Dombroski.

Detroit new look line up.

1. Curtis Granderson (CF)
2. Placido Polanco (2B)
3. Gary Shefield (DH)
4. Miguel Cabrera (3B)
5. Magglio Ordonez (RF)
6. Carlos Guillen (1B)
7. Edgar Renteria (SS)
8. Ivan Rodriguez (C)
9. Jacque Jones (LF)


Staring rotation.

Justin Verlander
Jeremy Bonderman
Kenny Rodgers
Dontelle Willis
Nate Robertson

Who needs a bull pen when it's gonna be 15-0 going into the
seventh inning?

:D :D :D :D :D :D



HELLO World Series!!!:eek:

slpybear the bullfan
12-05-2007, 01:14 PM
Wow... If I lived in Florida I would give up... on the Marlins.

Detroit will definitely be a tough play for the Sox next year... (Come on Santana!)

zebrablue2
12-05-2007, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Bearkat
HELLO World Series!!!:eek:


for the marlins in about 4 or 5 years. they have a plan to win it every 8-10 years-- the cheap way.

eagles_victory
12-05-2007, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by slpybear the bullfan
Wow... If I lived in Florida I would give up... on the Marlins.

Cameron Maybin, Dan Uggla, Hanley Rameriez. I wouldnt give up just yet.