Celina (12-0) vs. Pittsburg (8-4) game thread

[charlesrixey]

you know the drill

i'll keep you updated on all of the excitement

if you want, this game is also on the radio and the link will be posted in just a bit

[zebrablue2]

thanks rixey. much appreciated......

[charlesrixey]

here's the game radio link (celina broadcasters):

celina/pittsburg radio (http://player.warpradio.com/player.asp?mode=&ref=&page=Tuner&id=871&wmpVer=10&br=IE&os=win&streamType=&streamRate=)

[charlesrixey]

coverage starts in just a couple of minutes

it's bittersweet, since i can't listen to the Roosevelt/Gilmer game at the same time

[Dominicfrank]

gilmer game is tomorrow, your in luck

[charlesrixey]

Pirates get the kick at the 31

run to the 38

2nd and 3 for wright

Holman gets the tackle but the pirates just get the first down at the 31

no huddle for pittsburg

touchdown pirates on wright keeper

[charlesrixey]

7-0 pittsburg

10:41 in the first

[lostaussie]

wow..........7 more than i thought they would get!!!!!!

[charlesrixey]

romero takes the kickoff from the 1 to the 25

1st and 10

QB Davis runs for eight

2nd and 2 on the 33

Davis takes it to the 40

1st and 10

Davis runs for another 5

2nd and 5 at the 45

D'Anton Lynn runs to the 49 of the pirates, first down

Romero takes it for 2 to the 47

2nd and 8 for Celina

negative pass

3rd and 10

Davis shovel pass to McCartney, makes it to the 29

1st and 10

McCartney runs short

2nd and 9

Fumble, Pirates recover at their 16

[charlesrixey]

RB Brown runs for 4

incomplete pass (thrown away by Wright)

timeout pittsburg

[Dominicfrank]

7-0 5 mins to go Pit punting

[Dominicfrank]

celina has ball at midfield

[charlesrixey]

Celina gets the ball back near midfield

Davis runs for the first

penalty pushes the bobcats back

Waldrep runs down to the 40

fumble again, recovered by pittsburg

[Dominicfrank]

Celina fumbles again PIT ball at thir own 35

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by charlesrixey


fumble again, recovered by pittsburg

*** :mad:

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
F

= freak :D

[charlesrixey]

Wright in the shotgun

QB keeper runs for a couple

2nd and 8 on the 37

throws screen incomplete to RB Brown

3rd and 8 for pittsburg

2:45 in the first quarter

incomplete pass

4th and 8

Pittsburg punt to Lynn

Bobcats run to their 34

1st and 10

[charlesrixey]

Waldrep runs for 4

2nd and 6

Davis runs to the 48 of the pirates on a fake

1st and 10

[charlesrixey]

McCartney runs for two but there is a penalty (offsides against Pittsburg)

Romero takes it but goes nowhere

2nd and 8

end of the first quarter,

Pittsburg 7, Celina 0

[GWOOD]

Thanks charlesrixey. Celina off to a slow start, but there is a lot of football left.

[charlesrixey]

yep, not the first time we've seen this

celina is driving just fine but they have fumbled twice already in pittsburg territory

celina driving again

Austin Carey catches a pass at the 7

[Dominicfrank]

doesnt sound like Celina will have a problem just two fumbles early

[charlesrixey]

Touchdown Romero for Celina

Pittsburg 7, Celina 6

celina miffs whatever they were trying with the extra point

[charlesrixey]

Pittsburg starting their drive, Wright runs for ten but then hit for a loss in the next play

8:00 minutes in the 2nd Quarter

2nd and 14 at their own 39

timeout pittsburg

[charlesrixey]

incomplete pass

3rd and 14 at the 39

pass knocked down by Troy Franklin

punt forthcoming

[GWOOD]

3rd punt in a row after an opening drive TD

[Dominicfrank]

i can see what people are thinking when they say these commentators are pompus.

[charlesrixey]

punting from the 25

no return, ball at the 31

Davis dropped for a loss of 5

2nd and 15

Romero catches a pass and gets to the 38

3rd and 3

timeout

6 carries for wright, 73 yards and a TD

romero runs again for the first down

1st and 10 at the bobcats 41

[charlesrixey]

Davis runs for 25 down to the 31 yard line

5:51 left in the half

[charlesrixey]

Waldrep runs down to the five yard line

Romero runs down to the 2

2nd and goal

[charlesrixey]

Touchdown Celina

Celina timeout

12-7 pending xp (well, probably a 2pc)

[charlesrixey]

another celina timeout

[charlesrixey]

2pc good

14-7 Celina

[charlesrixey]

Davis not doing so bad rushing either

8 carries for 75 yards

[charlesrixey]

1st and 10 at the 38 for Pittsburg

interception by Lynn, touchdown
celina

[Gobbla2001]

ut oh, somebody done woke Celiva up... :clap:

[charlesrixey]

Celina 21, Pittsburg 7

4:22 left in the second quarter

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
ut oh, somebody done woke Celiva up... :clap:

celiva?;)

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
celiva?;)

dammit my N is missing a line...:D

[charlesrixey]

Pirates with the ball

wright runs to the 34

3:50

2nd and 3

Direct Snap to Brown and he slips losing two

3rd and 5

brown runs for the first

Wright runs to the 40, late hit penalty by Lynn

1st and 10

illegal procedure on the pirates

1st and 15

Brown runs down to the 5 yard line

[charlesrixey]

make that 1st and goal on the 8

timeout

2nd and 8

Wright scores

[charlesrixey]

Celina 21, Pittsburg 14

1:39 left in the half

[Dominicfrank]

still dont see Celina being stopped at all on Offense today

[KingRob]

Gotta give Pitt kudos for keeping the game interesting. You never know......

[charlesrixey]

celina near the 50 with the ball

two incomplete passes

3rd and 10

Lynn catches down to the 37

1:05 left

[charlesrixey]

Romero catches at the 29

[charlesrixey]

penalty against the bobcats, pushed back to the 34 but plenty of time left

2nd and 7

Holding against celina

McCartney runs to the 34

Davis throws to Romero down to the 24

12 seconds left

[charlesrixey]

Davis passes to Lynn, interception in the end zone

[Gobbla2001]

well that aint worth two pints of caca with blue bell labels on 'em...

[charlesrixey]

haltime

Celina 21, Pittsburg 14

[gobbler grad]

Celina will run away with it in the 3rd...:thinking:

[Martian Man]

Go Pittsburg !!!!!

[charlesrixey]

good return to the 40

driving right down the field are the bobcats

[charlesrixey]

Celina running it down their throats to start the half, down to the nine

Waldrep down to the 3

[charlesrixey]

Romero runs into the endzone

27-14 awaiting xp

[charlesrixey]

Celina goes for two after the pittsburg penalty

it's good

29-14

9:47 in the third

[charlesrixey]

celina attempts onside kick

pittsburg recovers

[charlesrixey]

pittsburg driving again, with the help of a late hit penalty by lavey

wright a little shaken up

[charlesrixey]

Pittsburg at Celina's 9 after the penalty

austin wyatt drops brown for a loss

pass incomplete by wright

he is now 0-8 on the passes

3rd and 15

lavey drops the receiver immediately, no gain

4th and 15

FG attempt

[charlesrixey]

Celina 29, Pittsburg 17

6:33 in the 3rd

[charlesrixey]

celina has the ball and once again driving

Romero runs to the 35

1st down

[charlesrixey]

McCartney down to the 45

[charlesrixey]

Waldrep runs down to the 48 of the pirates

3rd and 5

QB Draw as Davis goes down to the 42

4th and 2

Bobcats going for it

Waldrep runs for a touchdown 40 yards

Celina 35-17 with the xp coming

[charlesrixey]

Celina 36, Pittsburg 17

a couple of minutes left in the third

[charlesrixey]

Pittsburg with the ball, pass complete to the 33

2nd and 3

pass incomplete

3rd and 3

[charlesrixey]

incomplete pass
pitt punts to the celina 31 no return

Waldrep runs on the first play, 69 yard touchdown run

42-17 Celina pending xp

[charlesrixey]

1:54 left in the third, xp good

43-17 Celina

Bobcats have outscored Pittsburg 21-3 in the third quarter

[charlesrixey]

onside kick attempt once again

pittsburg recovers again

wright and brown still in the background

incomplete pass

3rd and 21

substitution infraction against the pirates

4th and 23

kick is high to the pittsburg 38

penalty against celina, pirates get the ball back

[charlesrixey]

wright brought down behind the line

third quarter over

[Martian Man]

Whats The Score?

[charlesrixey]

intentional grounding

Bobcats really pressuring wright now

McCartney runs out to the 42 on the kick return

holding call against celina

[charlesrixey]

austin carry reception and run to the 45 plus a late hit penalty afterwards

Waldrep runs down to the 37

[charlesrixey]

celina loss of five or six

3rd and 16 for celina at the pitt 41

waldrep runs for several

another late hit

9:07 left in the game

4th and 7?

quick kick

wright returns for a touchdown

43-23 as pitt misses the 2pc

[charlesrixey]

celina takes it back and scores quickly

50-23

7:35 remaining

[charlesrixey]

pittsburg looking gassed as celina is pounding wright in the backfield

brown to the 30

punt to celina, no return

5:25 left in the game

[charlesrixey]

reserves in now

ryan merritt to the 41

1st down at the 45 or so

clock running

[charlesrixey]

backup johnson runs down to the 18 for celina

Merritt runs down to the six

[charlesrixey]

Final


Celina 50, Pittsburg 23

for the second week in a row, celina kneels six yards from the end zone with a little less than a minute left

[Rabbit'93]

Originally posted by charlesrixey


for the second week in a row, celina kneels six yards from the end zone with a little less than a minute left What does that mean???

[Martian Man]

You Called It. They Ran away with in the third. Good Game Bobcats!!

[BobcatBenny]

Originally posted by Rabbit'93
What does that mean???
What do you want it to mean???

[Martian Man]

It means they didn't run it up 7 point higher

[BILLYFRED0000]

In the for what it's worth department, we made too many mistakes tonight. Score should have been 35 14 at the half easily and we helped them down the field on D with a couple of late hit out of bounds. D'anton on the first one was an honest mistake. The kid was dancin down the side line and stepped out of bounds and just stopped. D'anton was already diving and hit him. The second call was questionable. Both Refs at the ball did not call it. A ref 20 yards from the play with no angle at all to see the play threw the flag. Just too many mistakes. Pittsburg was well coached and got the most out of their team that they could. They were out matched. But I would put this game as the third or fourth worst game we played this year. We better pick it up.

[block&tackle]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
In the for what it's worth department, we made too many mistakes tonight. Score should have been 35 14 at the half easily and we helped them down the field on D with a couple of late hit out of bounds. D'anton on the first one was an honest mistake. The kid was dancin down the side line and stepped out of bounds and just stopped. D'anton was already diving and hit him. The second call was questionable. Both Refs at the ball did not call it. A ref 20 yards from the play with no angle at all to see the play threw the flag. Just too many mistakes. Pittsburg was well coached and got the most out of their team that they could. They were out matched. But I would put this game as the third or fourth worst game we played this year. We better pick it up.
This is a rediculous post. There is no reason to say this unless you are trying to cover for why this game was a little closer than you predicted.

First, outside of the two 1st Q fumbles, the offense played great. 600+ yards and the offensive line was close to flawless. Waldrep rushed for over 200 yards, Davis rushed for over a hundred and threw for another hundred.

Second, the defense did a great job of slowing down one of the most explosive high school players that I have ever seen. Wright is flat-out amazing. I have been blessed to see Quan Cosby and Manuel Johnson but neither sent shivers up my spine like this kid. Still, we held them to under 200 yards offense.

Refs were bad but they didn't contribute to either Pitt td (maybe the field goal but who cares). Bottom line is that we won and there is no reason to come here and say how bad we played, especially when we played pretty darned good.

Congrats to Pitt on a fantastic season and thanks for making us work tonight.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by block&tackle
This is a rediculous post. There is no reason to say this unless you are trying to cover for why this game was a little closer than you predicted.

First, outside of the two 1st Q fumbles, the offense played great. 600+ yards and the offensive line was close to flawless. Waldrep rushed for over 200 yards, Davis rushed for over a hundred and threw for another hundred.

Second, the defense did a great job of slowing down one of the most explosive high school players that I have ever seen. Wright is flat-out amazing. I have been blessed to see Quan Cosby and Manuel Johnson but neither sent shivers up my spine like this kid. Still, we held them to under 200 yards offense.

Refs were bad but they didn't contribute to either Pitt td (maybe the field goal but who cares). Bottom line is that we won and there is no reason to come here and say how bad we played, especially when we played pretty darned good.

Congrats to Pitt on a fantastic season and thanks for making us work tonight.


I agree completely with this post. That kid was an athlete or Pittsburg. WOW Quick moves and straight break away speed like no other I have seen this year. That punt return in the fourth for their 3rd TD was a thing of Beauty. Congrats Pirates on a great Season. Congrats to our Bobcats. 3 to Finish It!

[alaskacat]

wll I jst got back to my motel so I can comment.

Most of my comments will only be about referrees.

I have never seen a game called this badly.

several were total BS calls.

The first turnover was right in front of me. he was down already when the ball came out.

Then there was the non call of intentional grounding which was tossed four rows deep almost straight sideways, without a receiver within 50 yards....that led to the first touchdow for Pitt.

The second supposed hit out of bounds was total BS...Anton hit him on the sidelines and knocked him halfway across thetrack...clean hit, that resulted in us gettig 15 yards..and them a field goal.

Then the case of the 4th and 25 and they snapped the ball, the snapper got hammered after he snapped the ball, and we were penalized the 15 yards because we didn't wait one second to hit the damned snapper...who ever can find that in a rule book let me know, that turned a 4th and 25 into a first down, that resulted in a TD.

Then there is the cae of offsetting personal fouls on 3rd down...shoudl have offset and replay the down, they made it 4th down..go figure.

The list is fricking endless,

Pitt played hard, but one player does not make a team. there cracker jack QB I think completed one pass.


ggrrrrrr thats all I got to say about it.

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by block&tackle
This is a rediculous post. There is no reason to say this unless you are trying to cover for why this game was a little closer than you predicted.


Agreed, his post sounded arrogant.

[JR2004]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
In the for what it's worth department, we made too many mistakes tonight. Score should have been 35 14 at the half easily and we helped them down the field on D with a couple of late hit out of bounds. D'anton on the first one was an honest mistake. The kid was dancin down the side line and stepped out of bounds and just stopped. D'anton was already diving and hit him. The second call was questionable. Both Refs at the ball did not call it. A ref 20 yards from the play with no angle at all to see the play threw the flag. Just too many mistakes. Pittsburg was well coached and got the most out of their team that they could. They were out matched. But I would put this game as the third or fourth worst game we played this year. We better pick it up.

Oh boy...Here we go with the EXCUSES in a WIN...It just never stops with some of y'all from up that way.

Fans like this is why so many people root for Celina to lose every week. It isn't because they have anything against the coaches or the players, it's the ignorant and arrogant part of fanbase that causes so many to want to see Celina fall flat on their face.

[JR2004]

Originally posted by alaskacat
wll I jst got back to my motel so I can comment.

Most of my comments will only be about referrees.

I have never seen a game called this badly.

several were total BS calls.

The first turnover was right in front of me. he was down already when the ball came out.

Then there was the non call of intentional grounding which was tossed four rows deep almost straight sideways, without a receiver within 50 yards....that led to the first touchdow for Pitt.

The second supposed hit out of bounds was total BS...Anton hit him on the sidelines and knocked him halfway across thetrack...clean hit, that resulted in us gettig 15 yards..and them a field goal.

Then the case of the 4th and 25 and they snapped the ball, the snapper got hammered after he snapped the ball, and we were penalized the 15 yards because we didn't wait one second to hit the damned snapper...who ever can find that in a rule book let me know, that turned a 4th and 25 into a first down, that resulted in a TD.

Then there is the cae of offsetting personal fouls on 3rd down...shoudl have offset and replay the down, they made it 4th down..go figure.

The list is fricking endless,

Pitt played hard, but one player does not make a team. there cracker jack QB I think completed one pass.


ggrrrrrr thats all I got to say about it.

Another shining example of arrogance and ignorance mixed together. Too bad Celina doesn't have more folks like Rixey who post here.

[BILLYFRED0000]

I am not being arrogant at all. I think if we play with that many turnovers and mistakes against a really good team we lose. That was the gist of my Post. It was the third or fourth worst game in terms of key mistakes at the wrong time on scoring drives. It reminded me alot of our first two games when we dominated the games but the scores were close.

Just as an example was the two point conversion we burned two timeouts on because we could not get the play set up with the right personnel. Sloppiest thing I have seen us do. And it cost us because on the two minute drill without the timeouts we could not throw or run a short route to get closer to the endzone so we could have had a better play selection right before the half. Thus we wind up with an interception which D'anton nearly got because we were throwing from 30 yards instead of 15 or so where we could have chosen different plays. The coaches game plan was terrific. Kudos
to Butch and the staff. I know it was a tough week for him and Aaron and I was impressed with them.

That being said it was a tale of two halves. We made most of our mistakes in the first half. In the second half we played very well and only gave up 3 points to their offense. The only bad mistake we made in the second half was to punt to Wright on the one punt of the night. And I was mad when I posted my first post this because while the refs werent the worst I have seen they really did miss several calls . One that really got me was Caleb's late hit infraction. But 3 others were non calls when you could see hands of Pitt pulling jersey at the point of attack and no flag. And those were then ones I personally saw. I was told by a couple of trustworthy guys they saw some I did not.
Pitt was classy squad. The coaches prepared them well and they got the most out of their squad that they could.
That Wright kid ought to play college ball somewhere if he has the grades.
He certainly was a ball player.

[zebrablue2]

1 second rule on the center is correct. safety rule, so you do not hit the kid with his head down. you should know-- safety comes first on the field. they can shoot the gaps, but do not hit the center for 1 second on punts and x-pt kicks. good call by the official.

[CelinaProud]

Originally posted by JR2004
Another shining example of arrogance and ignorance mixed together. Too bad Celina doesn't have more folks like Rixey who post here.

First of all, I thought this was still a place where everyone had a right to his/her opinion, without someone calling names....

As for BillyFredooo and Alaskacat, they know this game and Celina FB better than most of us and for those that don't live here, they are the farthest thing from arrogant, they simply were owning mistakes and making educated observances.

I know Ford and the other coaches own mistakes on a daily basis so that these guys/this team can be the powerhouse they are.

However, where I am getting perplexed is, when it comes to calling Celina posters arrogant, there seems no way for Celina-ites to win.

If we sign up and say "WE KICKED YOUR BUTT, GO HOME NOW!" or we log in and say "We won but the team and ref's made mistakes against a team that we thought would be easier, but played us harder, thus we gotta do better next time-" we still get called arrogant.

Truthfully, I know this game as well as any woman out there, and it's this kind of pettiness that has kept me from posting much over the last two years.

It seems to me, either way Celina posters write, you're looking to critique it.

I understand, having a son on the team, being frustrated when we win a game and someone comes on here and posts the mistakes, but again, if we don't acknowledge our mistakes, it makes us vulnerable. When we left the ER game last week my husband walked out and said, "With a score like 41-0 everyone's gonna say we ripped them and truthfully, we did, but not until the very end."

Which was true, and we (our family) LOVE Celina but he was just observing. It doesn't make him arrogant. It makes him intelligent enough to have an opinion.

To quote the great Rodney King......"Can't we all just get along?"

[icu812]

First off congrats to Celina on the win and to Pitt on a well played game. K. Wright is an outstanding football player and is sure fun to watch. Good luck to Celina the rest of the way and to Pitt in basketball (ranked #2 in the state).

As far as the refs go.....they did a nice job!!!! Well called game. Those hits were well out of bounds, wasn't even close. This comming from a fan of Celina football. I've watched Celina in the playoffs several times the past few years and admire what they do. But from now on I'll be enjoying me some Celina football away from their fans. I know there are ignorant homers who don't know the rules of football in every town but that doesn't mean I have to sit by them :) I don't see Celina being denied the 3A state title this year in DII. Man I'd like to see them matched up with Gilmer or Roosevelt.

[BobcatBenny]

Originally posted by icu812
First off congrats to Celina on the win and to Pitt on a well played game. K. Wright is an outstanding football player and is sure fun to watch. Good luck to Celina the rest of the way and to Pitt in basketball (ranked #2 in the state).

As far as the refs go.....they did a nice job!!!! Well called game. Those hits were well out of bounds, wasn't even close. This comming from a fan of Celina football. I've watched Celina in the playoffs several times the past few years and admire what they do. But from now on I'll be enjoying me some Celina football away from their fans. I know there are ignorant homers who don't know the rules of football in every town but that doesn't mean I have to sit by them :) I don't see Celina being denied the 3A state title this year in DII. Man I'd like to see them matched up with Gilmer or Roosevelt.
You are probably right, but you sort of do have to put on the other guys shoes in this case. I'm talking about the week-in and week-out Celina homer.

And we (Celinians) need to snap into reality too, but refs are human and there are many games where it is obvious that a ref is trying to give the other team a chance to stay in the game. We see it many times a season, so we are probably hypersensitive to it. It can be frustrating, but we should realize that our team just has to fight through it.

Hasn't happened yet to my knowledge, but might eventually. Celina will play in a close game and lose because a ref can't keep his bias out of the game. It is not out of the realm of possibility.

However, I have actually seen other refs smack down a bias ref by throwing a flag Celina's way to send the message to the one ref, "Hey stop being bias, we are to be neutral."

I think that might have happened at the beginning of the Dallas Madison vs. Celina play-off game last season.

And . . . maybe we (Celina) bring it on ourselves a little, but we can't help it if our kids are just well coached.

I definitely do not want cheap shots taking place, but if our kids play through the whistle agressively, chances are they might make a mistake and get a penalty every once in a while, no big deal. Why you might ask?

I have seen that same play where the opposing defense lets up or gives up on a Celina back, thinks he is about to go out of bounds or the defense is just being undisciplined, then the Celina back cuts back and takes it to the house.

Would prefer for it to never happen, but these athletes these days are so talented they will burn you if you give them anything. And right at the start of the game the Celina kids got the message.

Message being, Pitt will beat you, so you better play your best game.

[gatordaze]

The late hits on the sideline are emphasized by the design of that field. I took this picture right in front of the second sideline late hit and you can see that it was close and momentum played a part. The track starts 8 feet from the sideline and players end up on the track way too easily. This definately influences the flag.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc186/jayraulerson/late.jpg

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by icu812
First off congrats to Celina on the win and to Pitt on a well played game. K. Wright is an outstanding football player and is sure fun to watch. Good luck to Celina the rest of the way and to Pitt in basketball (ranked #2 in the state).

As far as the refs go.....they did a nice job!!!! Well called game. Those hits were well out of bounds, wasn't even close. This comming from a fan of Celina football. I've watched Celina in the playoffs several times the past few years and admire what they do. But from now on I'll be enjoying me some Celina football away from their fans. I know there are ignorant homers who don't know the rules of football in every town but that doesn't mean I have to sit by them :) I don't see Celina being denied the 3A state title this year in DII. Man I'd like to see them matched up with Gilmer or Roosevelt.

Well we can agree to disagree on Caleb's late hit. D'anton was just being agressive making sure the play did not get past him and went over the sideline. The other call however was not obvious. If so the refs on the sideline whose job it is to judge the sideline would have thrown the flag. They were both there and they never even reached for their flag. The flag came from a guy 20 yards away on the hash marks. Not his call to make.

[bobcat1]

Great Shot Gatordaze! I saw it and thought exactly what you said. Tracks just right there and with a little acting a flag will come.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by gatordaze
The late hits on the sideline are emphasized by the design of that field. I took this picture right in front of the second sideline late hit and you can see that it was close and momentum played a part. The track starts 8 feet from the sideline and players end up on the track way too easily. This definately influences the flag.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc186/jayraulerson/late.jpg

That was definetly a legal hit because of momentum. Just no way to stop at that point. Thanks for the shot. Nice pic.

[Butkus]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
That was definetly a legal hit because of momentum. Just no way to stop at that point. Thanks for the shot. Nice pic. I wuznt thar but frum tha pictur sur looks like the defender might be leadin with tha head gear.:thinking:

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by Butkus
I wuznt thar but frum tha pictur sur looks like the defender might be leadin with tha head gear.:thinking:

Naw, got him with his pads, head in front classic form tackle. Always put your head in front of the runner so he does not run thru your arms. The call was late hit out of bounds and as anyone could see they were there about the same time he stepped out. That bad call led to points BTW. Put them on about the 8 or 9. We pushed them back to the 18 or something and they just cleared the crossbar with their 3. Only points in the second half scored by the offense.

[Butkus]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Naw, got him with his pads, head in front classic form tackle. Always put your head in front of the runner so he does not run thru your arms. The call was late hit out of bounds and as anyone could see they were there about the same time he stepped out. Hey easy ole son ole Butkus jus wuz makin an observation frum tha pictur that it sur looked like it coulda be head ta head. Same think could be said cuz i wuznt thar that tha young man is out of bounds by tha pictur.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by Butkus
Hey easy ole son ole Butkus jus wuz makin an observation frum tha pictur that it sur looked like it coulda be head ta head. Same think could be said cuz i wuznt thar that tha young man is out of bounds by tha pictur.

That was a great freeze frame. At full speed there is no way to stop. He got hit right about a split second after that frame from momentum. If those guys could move like that we would put them in the backfield and make them backs. No one would ever tackle them.

[gatordaze]

This was another questionable block in the back penalty...

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc186/jayraulerson/hit1.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc186/jayraulerson/hit2.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc186/jayraulerson/hit3.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc186/jayraulerson/hit4.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc186/jayraulerson/hit5.jpg

[kepdawg]

Man, that is one ugly color! :D

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by gatordaze
This was another questionable block in the back penalty...

/cc186/jayraulerson/hit5.jpg[/IMG]

And another flag from get this 35 yards away as this hit was 7 or 8 from the pressbox sideline and the flag came from the side judge about half way between the hash and visiting sideline. Again the ref right there did not reach for his flag. There was no way the far side ref could see the impact angle because their backs were to him. He could never see the helmet in front. While it was close, he was in no position to make that call.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by Butkus
Hey easy ole son ole Butkus jus wuz makin an observation frum tha pictur that it sur looked like it coulda be head ta head. Same think could be said cuz i wuznt thar that tha young man is out of bounds by tha pictur.

Naw, if tha runna waz not runnin in such a strait up style it sur cudda been a head ta head. But wif his nees bukled an his eyes closed awredy he waz jus waitin ta git hit.

Tha runna shudda jus lowerd his sholda an took on D' Anton but didn.

[MN95]

thanks God for these pictures. I was beginning to worry we are all a bunch of "ignorant homers".

Homers? Probably. What fans aren't?

Ignorant? Don't think so.

[alaskacat]

the picture is just what I saw on the sidelines...I now feel vindicated. that block in the back was BS too, ...as can you see where fan frustration sets in?

Has nothing to do with being arrogant.
The alumni I was sitting with were just as pissed as I about the officiating

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by 75009Football
Naw, if tha runna waz not runnin in such a strait up style it sur cudda been a head ta head. But wif his nees bukled an his eyes closed awredy he waz jus waitin ta git hit.

Tha runna shudda jus lowerd his sholda an took on D' Anton but didn.

U sed thet rite bubba......rofl ;)

[75009Football]

Well Glenn Rose beat PG so no more ET talk. Their teams are out of R2 and we did not have to take them all out. Thanks GR.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by 75009Football
Well Glenn Rose beat PG so no more ET talk. Their teams are out of R2 and we did not have to take them all out. Thanks GR.

I like playing Glen Rose. We have not scrimmaged them in a couple of years or so. Wonder where we will play?

[MN95]

Based on our games against Prosper and Pittsburg, and their games against GR and PG, I would have bet PG to win this one. I guess that's why they play.

Pennington Field in Bedford next week?

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by MN95
Based on our games against Prosper and Pittsburg, and their games against GR and PG, I would have bet PG to win this one. I guess that's why they play.

Pennington Field in Bedford next week?

I hope so. I like that field.

And I would have bet on district play that there was no way PG should lose to Glen Rose. Well maybe a chance but PG beat Pittsburg 49-35 and I thought Pitt was a decent team.

[BILLYFRED0000]

DMN Blog had some nice things to say about Wright from Pittsburg....

Quoting from the blog...

Celina outmuscled Pittsburg with 53 carries for 489 yards on the ground. RB Charley Waldrep led the way with 15 carries for 213 yards and three touchdowns.

Pittsburg's season may be over, but we'll be hearing the name "Kendall Wright" for a long time, folks. This senior QB is the real deal, and congratulations to the Big 12 or other BCS school that gets him. he scored all three of his twam's touchdowns, including one on an 86-yard punt return.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Man, that is one ugly color! :D
I know, right. That Black and White with a tinge of gold sucks unless you are dribbling basketballs. :p ;)

[OldNavy]

Originally posted by zebrablue2
1 second rule on the center is correct. safety rule, so you do not hit the kid with his head down. you should know-- safety comes first on the field. they can shoot the gaps, but do not hit the center for 1 second on punts and x-pt kicks. good call by the official.

I will admit that I am an ignorant fan. I have been watching college and highschool football all my life. I was ignorant of the rule, and in the last 45 years of watching football games, I have never seen that foul called. Today I am less ignorant.

I would be interested to know if any of the non-ignorant fans have ever seen it called.

My other question is how, when the line is set for protecting a kick, do you shoot the gap, without hitting the center, there is not room between the center and guard, especially if the guard blocks the gap. I am surprised in all the years of watching football I had never seen this foul.

[75009Football]

So RC, PG, Pitt, and now SLC are out of the playoffs. What a year.

[VAMike]

Originally posted by alaskacat
.....

1. Then there was the non call of intentional grounding which was tossed four rows deep almost straight sideways, without a receiver within 50 yards....that led to the first touchdow for Pitt.
.....

2. Then the case of the 4th and 25 and they snapped the ball, the snapper got hammered after he snapped the ball, and we were penalized the 15 yards because we didn't wait one second to hit the damned snapper...who ever can find that in a rule book let me know, that turned a 4th and 25 into a first down, that resulted in a TD.


3. Then there is the cae of offsetting personal fouls on 3rd down...shoudl have offset and replay the down, they made it 4th down..go figure.

.

1 - As long as the ball lands beyoind the line of scrimmage, even if it lands in the stands and pass was outside the tackle when he threw it, no foul.

2- Been in the rules for many years now. 9-1-2-r: r. When a team is in scrimmage kick formation, a defensive player may not
initiate contact with the snapper until one second has elapsed after the snap (A.R. 9-1-2-XXII-XXIV).
PENALTY—15 yards from the basic spot or succeeding spot for deadball fouls and a first down for Team B fouls if the first down
is not in conflict with other rules (Exception: Offensive
team personal fouls behind the neutral zone are enforced
from the previous spot. Safety if the foul occurs behind
Team A’s goal line) [S7, S24, S34, S38, S39, S40, S41 or S46].
Flagrant offenders shall be disqualified [S47].

3 - If the personal fouls were both after the ball is dead then the down is not repeated, even though the penalties cancel one another. The down advances to what it would have been before the fouls.

[OldNavy]

VAMike,

I am sure it is in the rules. I have never seen it called in 45 years of watching football. Now if I understood what you reported, you can not make contact with the Center for 1 second. We are not even talking about shooting the gap between the center and guard..."no contact" for 1 second. I am surprised that has never been called at a game I have attended in the last 45 years. I don't know how many college games I have seen and especially on extra points and field goals and did not know you could not even touch the center for a second.

I sure appreciate your knowledge and willingness to share it.
Has anyone on this board ever seen it called?????

[bobcat1]

Go fight Win!

[VAMike]

It is typically not flagged on the "shooting the gap" plays as that was not what it was intended for. It was intended to protect the snapper from being clobbered while he still had his head down. Not sure what exactly happened in the play in this game but I suspect it was more than shooting the gap. I see it once or twice a season in games I work. Not sure I have ever seen it in a televised game.

[75009Football]

Originally posted by OldNavy
VAMike,

I am sure it is in the rules. I have never seen it called in 45 years of watching football.
Has anyone on this board ever seen it called?????

No.

[CelinaCatFan]

We actually had this penalty called (in our favor) earlier this season. Can't remember exactly which game it was. We were talking about this last night, when it was called.

[whtfbplaya]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Naw, got him with his pads, head in front classic form tackle. Always put your head in front of the runner so he does not run thru your arms. The call was late hit out of bounds and as anyone could see they were there about the same time he stepped out. That bad call led to points BTW. Put them on about the 8 or 9. We pushed them back to the 18 or something and they just cleared the crossbar with their 3. Only points in the second half scored by the offense.

If he is out of bounds, he is out of bounds. The picture clearly shows it. There is no rule that says "if he cant stop" it is a late hit out of bounds, end of story.

BTW - Most high school games, including this one do not have a side judge.

[alaskacat]

Originally posted by OldNavy
VAMike,

I am sure it is in the rules. I have never seen it called in 45 years of watching football. Now if I understood what you reported, you can not make contact with the Center for 1 second. We are not even talking about shooting the gap between the center and guard..."no contact" for 1 second. I am surprised that has never been called at a game I have attended in the last 45 years. I don't know how many college games I have seen and especially on extra points and field goals and did not know you could not even touch the center for a second.

I sure appreciate your knowledge and willingness to share it.
Has anyone on this board ever seen it called?????
Nope not me and I been playing since I was 10...I played linebacker and hit them quite regularly:)

and never once got called on it

[gatordaze]

I was a deep snapper in College in the 80's and the rules then were that you could hit the snapper. It is a fairly new rule.

[alaskacat]

Seems kind of weird though so many teams running out of the spread, just isn't that much difference...can you hit the snapper then? You could if running a single wing...which the spread is just a derivative of the old single wing anyway.

[gatordaze]

The problem is that many long snappers look back at the punter while they snap and their head is in a compromised position. A shotgun snap is done "blind" with the head up. A good long snapper can snap blind.

[whtfbplaya]

The rule is only on scrimmage kick plays. And all good umpires will tell the defensive guys standing there to stay off the center for a second.