Region IV GotW(Regional round) : Wimberley Texans 6-6 VS Cuero Gobblers 10-2 [Archive]

garciap77

11-24-2007, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by CueroDad2006
Anyone got the scores for each game for both teams?

Stats, Rankings, Scores, Schedules, Rosters, Photos and more

Wimberley Texans Fall 07-08
Boys Varsity Football
Date Time Opponent Result
8/31/07 N/A vs. Giddings 21-55
9/7/07 7:30 PM @ Dripping Springs 14-31
9/14/07 N/A vs. Luling 42-13
9/21/07 N/A @ Liberty-Eylau 24-30
9/28/07 N/A @ Liberty Hill 10-35
10/5/07 N/A @ Wylie 7-34
10/26/07 N/A vs. Bandera ** 48-0
11/2/07 N/A @ Moore ** 53-8
11/9/07 N/A vs. Llano ** 28-7
11/15/07 N/A vs. South San Antonio West 59-7
11/23/07 N/A vs. Lytle 42-6
11/30/07 TBA vs. Cuero
** denotes league game
* denotes exhibition game

Head Coach: Weldon Nelms
3A Region IV District 25
Region IV
Wimberley, TX

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Stats, Rankings, Scores, Schedules, Rosters, Photos and more

Cuero Gobblers Fall 07-08
Boys Varsity Football
Date Time Opponent Result
8/31/07 N/A vs. Sinton 53-0
9/7/07 N/A @ Stafford 61-3
9/14/07 N/A vs. Bandera 57-14
9/21/07 N/A @ Liberty Hill 35-49
9/28/07 N/A vs. La Vernia 49-0
10/5/07 N/A @ Bay City 21-29
10/12/07 N/A @ Palacios ** 51-20
10/19/07 N/A vs. Yoakum ** 49-13
11/2/07 N/A @ Gonzales ** 44-27
11/9/07 N/A vs. Goliad ** 49-14
11/16/07 N/A vs. Mathis 64-7
11/23/07 N/A vs. Port Isabel 42-14
11/30/07 TBA vs. Wimberley
** denotes league game
* denotes exhibition game

Head Coach: Mark Reeve
3A Region IV District 29
Region IV
Cuero, TX

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There you go!

DrBob

11-24-2007, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by garciap77
Stats, Rankings, Scores, Schedules, Rosters, Photos and more

Wimberley Texans Fall 07-08
Boys Varsity Football
Date Time Opponent Result
8/31/07 N/A vs. Giddings 21-55
9/7/07 7:30 PM @ Dripping Springs 14-31
9/14/07 N/A vs. Luling 42-13
9/21/07 N/A @ Liberty-Eylau 24-30
9/28/07 N/A @ Liberty Hill 10-35
10/5/07 N/A @ Wylie 7-34
10/26/07 N/A vs. Bandera ** 48-0
11/2/07 N/A @ Moore ** 53-8
11/9/07 N/A vs. Llano ** 28-7
11/15/07 N/A vs. South San Antonio West 59-7
11/23/07 N/A vs. Lytle 42-6
11/30/07 TBA vs. Cuero
** denotes league game
* denotes exhibition game

Head Coach: Weldon Nelms
3A Region IV District 25
Region IV
Wimberley, TX

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Stats, Rankings, Scores, Schedules, Rosters, Photos and more

Cuero Gobblers Fall 07-08
Boys Varsity Football
Date Time Opponent Result
8/31/07 N/A vs. Sinton 53-0
9/7/07 N/A @ Stafford 61-3
9/14/07 N/A vs. Bandera 57-14
9/21/07 N/A @ Liberty Hill 35-49
9/28/07 N/A vs. La Vernia 49-0
10/5/07 N/A @ Bay City 21-29
10/12/07 N/A @ Palacios ** 51-20
10/19/07 N/A vs. Yoakum ** 49-13
11/2/07 N/A @ Gonzales ** 44-27
11/9/07 N/A vs. Goliad ** 49-14
11/16/07 N/A vs. Mathis 64-7
11/23/07 N/A vs. Port Isabel 42-14
11/30/07 TBA vs. Wimberley
** denotes league game
* denotes exhibition game

Head Coach: Mark Reeve
3A Region IV District 29
Region IV
Cuero, TX

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There you go!

I may be wrong but it looks like there last 6 ames are against pretty weak teams

garciap77

11-24-2007, 06:28 PM

Are you talking about Cuero or Wimberley?:D :D :D

DrBob

11-24-2007, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by garciap77
Are you talking about Cuero or Wimberley?:D :D :D

Wimberley

CueroDad2006

11-24-2007, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by DrBob
Wimberley

That is the distric games............the other games are by far the toughest for any 3a school

HM33

11-24-2007, 06:42 PM

I'm picking Cuero by 21 +.... I know that may seem drastic, but I just think Cuero has the people to do it this year. I will definitly be at the game considering I played Wimberly there at the FogBowl :)... what a good game. and plus I still play on that field. My home field :)

garciap77

11-24-2007, 07:18 PM

You need a few tough games going to the finals. Right now you are making it look to easy! Go luck and sorry about the missunderstanding!

CHSfan

11-24-2007, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by CHSfan
we live in the future here in cuero and it is PAYBACK TIME!!! whoo hoo go gobblers!!

one problem.....we have to wait till we play them again...... but as for wimberley this week it is PAYBACK TIME SATURDAY!!!

R4Editor

11-24-2007, 10:24 PM

This game is tough pick as in if its going to be a close game or another big win margin for the gobblers.

R4Editor

11-24-2007, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by R4Editor
This game is tough pick as in if its going to be a close game or another big win margin for the gobblers. i mean "such as" :D

gold_33

11-25-2007, 12:07 AM

5 or 6 weeks ago I woould of said we have no chance against Cuero but we have improved throughout the season about as much as any team could. The young guys have learned from the big games earlier in the season and the veteran guys who needed to step up and make plays have. I dont care what anyone says about Cueros speed cause that always seems to be what people talk about week in and week out, they had more speed than us last year but we played with more intensity just like '04 when we came up a little short and everyone had us gettin blown out. This game is intense and as fierce as any rivalry in the state because it has region IV and state championship implications every year we have played but both teams also respect one another cause they know its gonna be 4 quarters of hellacious nonstop smashmouth football that can go either way when its over. So get your popcorn ready cause Fogbowl II is comin!! Oh, and the Texans take this one 21-17!!!!

AP Panther Fan

11-25-2007, 12:29 AM

You know, the only thing I noticed is that all of the other regions are using Roman numerals on the stickies...Let's go Region IV Editor!;) :D

Now, back to your football talk! Oh, and good luck!

GO REGION 4!

:D

DaHop72

11-25-2007, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by AP Panther Fan
You know, the only thing I noticed is that all of the other regions are using Roman numerals on the stickies...Let's go Region IV Editor!;) :D

Now, back to your football talk! Oh, and good luck!

GO REGION 4!

:D Type A women.:devil: unually marry type B men.:D

R4Editor

11-25-2007, 12:34 AM

Who-dun-it!!?

11-25-2007, 12:39 AM

Going with the underdog in this one! Wimberly 21-20

Gobbla2001

11-25-2007, 12:32 PM

probably gunna be a tougher game than most will admit... I still see the Gobblers winning, but Wimberley gets up for big playoff games...

JT44

11-25-2007, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
probably gunna be a tougher game than most will admit... I still see the Gobblers winning, but Wimberley gets up for big playoff games...

I completely agree, they've played a tough schedule, and then managed to pull together this streak, and if any kids are left over from last year, they'll bring confidence to the newbies.

Nevertheless, I think Cuero will win, probably their closest game since the Gonzales game.

gold_33

11-25-2007, 01:21 PM

I think this game will be a mirror image of the '04 game. We have a good enough D to play with Cuero but the O will have to make big plays. This game should be a good one.

KingRob

11-25-2007, 02:21 PM

This is going to be a goodern. Sure do wish I could be there. I'm going with the Gobblers, who I think will run away with it in the second half.

Cuero - 45
Wimberley - 21

LET'S GO CUERO!!
:cheerl: :cheerl: :cheerl:

GreenMachine

11-25-2007, 02:26 PM

This will be another great game between these two teams. I think that Wimberly has come a long way this year. BUT, so has Cuero. I think this game could be REAL close. However, if Tyler is on like he was against Mathis, it could be a long night for the Texans. Cause if Tyler is on, it opens up the field even more for Quincy, one amazing athlete. Fast, catches anything near him, hard to bring down, hard to catch... Super athlete! :thumbsup:

TexanAlum_06

11-25-2007, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by gold_33
I think this game will be a mirror image of the '04 game. We have a good enough D to play with Cuero but the O will have to make big plays. This game should be a good one.

I totally agree, Our defense is definately the strong point of this football team, Offense needs to be perfect in execution this saturday and we need to innovative trick plays or something. Rule numero Uno is we cannot turn the ball over offensively. Hopefully we can get some good field position out of our return teams. We have executed pretty well on special teams the whole year.

gold_33

11-25-2007, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by TexanAlum_06
I totally agree, Our defense is definately the strong point of this football team, Offense needs to be perfect in execution this saturday and we need to innovative trick plays or something. Rule numero Uno is we cannot turn the ball over offensively. Hopefully we can get some good field position out of our return teams. We have executed pretty well on special teams the whole year.

Exactly, if we limit mistakes, turnovers and penalties, we have a shot but if we shoot ourselves in the foot and leave the D out there for 3qtrs of the like we did early on in the season we will get smashed. Nelms seems to be getting more confidence in the QB and is letting him air it out alot more than early in the season and it has been working out and it also helps the run and short pass plays. A couple guys have really stepped up at receiver and have given us that big play threat which we were a little shakey at early on. After watchin the last few games we do not look anything like the team that was 1-6, we have that little extra spring in our step and have gained confidence and if we continue to play that way we will come out on top.

headhunter

11-25-2007, 04:00 PM

When two goog teams play each other it always come down to who can take advantage of the other teams mistakes.
Turnovers, Field position, and momentum will be a big key factor.

I remember last year a pass interference was called on Cuero on 4th down which allowed wimberly to extend its drive and score to go up by two scores. It was a very questionable call and I believe it was a flag that should have never been thrown. However it is was it is and the momentum carried wimberly the rest of the game.

Cuero is fast no doubt Their offense is as good as they want to be. So many weapons. Port I keyed on Whittington every play but #10 Glover stepped up and made huge plays, as well as #42, and # 8. Cuero QB has so many options its unreal. THe defense is a little suspect to giving up points to good oponents. Bay City and Liberty Hill gave Cueros D all they could handle. A good strong run game who can pound against the gobblers may work.
Cuero also has many players going both ways and it has been a while since Cuero has had to play 4 quarters.

Wimberly has seen good football teams this season. However not lately. They have had an easy road the past 4-5 weeks (as well as Cuero) Their quarterback is young but has adjusted well this season. I dont believe they have quite the playmakers Cuero does but are able to run between the tackles very well.

Since neither team has playedan excellent opponent in the last few weeks, its going to come down to who can adjust to the game speed first. This will be a faster game and more big hits.
The turnover battle will determine who wins this one in my opinion. Its going to be high scoring because both teams have big play capability.

Cuero - 48
Wimberly - 42
This one could go to overtime

pirate4state

11-25-2007, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by CueroDad2006
Anyone got the scores for each game for both teams? I know you've already gotten your information, but all of this is on OUR HOME PAGE. By clicking on the "home" button at the top of every page you are directed to our home page with region and district information, including schedules, scores, etc...

Link (http://www.3adownlow.com/regionIV.php)

Good Luck to the Gobblers! I think it'll be a dog fight. Most recent series is tied at 1-1, right? I'll take Cuero by 14.

State_In_08

11-25-2007, 08:37 PM

Wow... 48 to 7 on the voting? People are giving Navasota a better chance of beating LH than Wimberley of beating Cuero.

snaxet

11-25-2007, 11:26 PM

Looking forward to seeing the Texans take on the Gobblers Sat even though the Texans are clearly the underdog and will need to play mistake free, passionate filled, smashmouth football for 4 quarters. Can they do it? Looking back over the regular season, the Texans' defense played hard for the most part but the offense could never get going. The defense kept Liberty Hill in check for most of the night, but could not get the offense going at all. LH capitalized on Texan offensive miscues to put up 2 scores late in the fourth quarter, one an interception for a TD with less than a minute to go. Otherwise the score would have been closer. LE had tremendous speed but the Texan defense played hard to keep the game close until the fourth quarter when the offense finally found itself. The Texans lost in 3 overtimes but showed tremendous heart in coming back in the last minute of the fourth quarter to tie the game. They fought hard and never gave up. Against Abilene Wylie, they played Wylie tough throughout the first half and took their first possession 98 yards for the score. Unfortunately, the Texan offense failed to show up in the third quarter and after three interceptions and a short kick, Abilene Wylie scored on 3 possessions that all started on the Texan end of the field. The second half of the Wylie game really forced the Texans to recommit themselves to playing 4 full quarters. The game that stands out the most, however, is the Cy Woods game. Cy Woods is a team that defeated 4A Marshall 64 to 28. They were big, fast and in all due respects, I would put them up against LH, LE, Abilene Wylie or any other 3A team in the state. They were very impressive, and that game took the Texans to another level. Despite losing 29-27, the Texans both offensively and defensively played with passion and heart. It was a game that marked a new beginning for the Texans. While the competition has not been to the same caliber as the pre-district games, they have shown that they are not the same team as they were during the first part of the season. Llano found that out as our defense completely dominated the slot-T. For the Texans' to be successful they will need to play at the same level as they did against Cy Woods. Regardless of the outcome, the Texans have proven that they will not quit. They will fight to the bitter end. Most teams would have checked it in long ago, but these guys have a special place in Texan history and will be remembered as the team that took on a "Rocky Balboa" mentality, and after being beat down, rose up to become winners. The coaches asked the players to believe in themselves. maintain a positive attitude and if they could do that they would be District Champions and meet Cuero in round 3 of the playoffs. Well, here we are preparing for Cuero. Good luck to both teams. The past 2 games between these two have been exciting and fun to watch. I expect this one to be the same. See ya Sat in Seguin.

gold_33

11-25-2007, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by snaxet
Looking forward to seeing the Texans take on the Gobblers Sat even though the Texans are clearly the underdog and will need to play mistake free, passionate filled, smashmouth football for 4 quarters. Can they do it? Looking back over the regular season, the Texans' defense played hard for the most part but the offense could never get going. The defense kept Liberty Hill in check for most of the night, but could not get the offense going at all. LH capitalized on Texan offensive miscues to put up 2 scores late in the fourth quarter, one an interception for a TD with less than a minute to go. Otherwise the score would have been closer. LE had tremendous speed but the Texan defense played hard to keep the game close until the fourth quarter when the offense finally found itself. The Texans lost in 3 overtimes but showed tremendous heart in coming back in the last minute of the fourth quarter to tie the game. They fought hard and never gave up. Against Abilene Wylie, they played Wylie tough throughout the first half and took their first possession 98 yards for the score. Unfortunately, the Texan offense failed to show up in the third quarter and after three interceptions and a short kick, Abilene Wylie scored on 3 possessions that all started on the Texan end of the field. The second half of the Wylie game really forced the Texans to recommit themselves to playing 4 full quarters. The game that stands out the most, however, is the Cy Woods game. Cy Woods is a team that defeated 4A Marshall 64 to 28. They were big, fast and in all due respects, I would put them up against LH, LE, Abilene Wylie or any other 3A team in the state. They were very impressive, and that game took the Texans to another level. Despite losing 29-27, the Texans both offensively and defensively played with passion and heart. It was a game that marked a new beginning for the Texans. While the competition has not been to the same caliber as the pre-district games, they have shown that they are not the same team as they were during the first part of the season. Llano found that out as our defense completely dominated the slot-T. For the Texans' to be successful they will need to play at the same level as they did against Cy Woods. Regardless of the outcome, the Texans have proven that they will not quit. They will fight to the bitter end. Most teams would have checked it in long ago, but these guys have a special place in Texan history and will be remembered as the team that took on a "Rocky Balboa" mentality, and after being beat down, rose up to become winners. The coaches asked the players to believe in themselves. maintain a positive attitude and if they could do that they would be District Champions and meet Cuero in round 3 of the playoffs. Well, here we are preparing for Cuero. Good luck to both teams. The past 2 games between these two have been exciting and fun to watch. I expect this one to be the same. See ya Sat in Seguin.

Well said!!!:clap: Ever since the Cy Woods game we have been night and day from the first half of the season. We beat a Bandera team that went 2 rounds deep 48-0 and the Llano game 28-7 should have been worse but we had two drives that ended in the red zone and Llano is still goin in the playoffs. People should not look at our record to closely because this team isn't the same as the one that took the field the first part of the season. This is gonna be a good test to see how far they have come though but I really believe we will pull this one out.

R4Editor

11-25-2007, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by gold_33
Well said!!!:clap: Ever since the Cy Woods game we have been night and day from the first half of the season. We beat a Bandera team that went 2 rounds deep 48-0 and the Llano game 28-7 should have been worse but we had two drives that ended in the red zone and Llano is still goin in the playoffs. People should not look at our record to closely because this team isn't the same as the one that took the field the first part of the season. This is gonna be a good test to see how far they have come though but I really believe we will pull this one out. I went with Cuero on my pick, but some teams just seem to matchup with each other and tough to pick a winner. This game will be close.

8HR

11-25-2007, 11:47 PM

snaxet,
Is it really the "Rocky Balboa" mentality or is it playing weaker competition. According to Massey Ratings the teams Wimberley beat...
Luling - Ranked 134
Bandera - 105
Ingram Moore - 174 (Dead Last)
Llano - 69
South SA West - 164
Lytle - 101

Wimberley lost to...
Giddings - 5
Dripping Springs - 139 in 4A
LE - 46
LH - 3
Wylie - 7

I think instead of "Rocky Balboa" it is playing much weaker teams. Is Wimberley really getting better or not. I say not.

Oh...Cuero is ranked 15th...You don't have a chance...GO MEAN GREEN!!!!!!!!!!

headhunter

11-25-2007, 11:48 PM

In my opinion Cuero should not be favored by all that much. In fact I dont consider either team as the favorite to win

Wimberly may be the underdog based on their record but they are the best 6 and 6 team ever in the third round

Cuero's defense is not that big and had trouble bring down a big back in Buse last year. I know he is not their this year Wimberly does have some good sized boys to carry the ball.

The biggest issue I have is that Cuero has some many kids going both ways. Fatigue could be a factor in the fourth and if its a close game could be an advantage for Wimberly.

Cuero's offense is as good as their is but the intensity that Wimberly had last year was to much. Cuero was outplayed on the line of scrimmage.

I dont like the fact that Reeves coaching style doesnt allow the front four of Cuero to penetrate and create havoc in the back field. It seems that Cuero is to far off the ball.

I have been to a few Cuero games this year and it seems the front four line up 2 yards off the ball. How in the yell can you control the line of scrimmage like that? Wimberly has their offensive lineman take huge splits and creates gaps to run through, but Cuero doesnt attcak like they should in my opinion.

Others who have watched Cuero may realize what I'm talking about.

headhunter

11-25-2007, 11:53 PM

Cueros defense will determine if they win this game or not. We know Cuero is going to score, offense not a problem. Cuero's Defense has to stop Wimberly.

Wimberly wore Cuero''s Defense out last year. If Wimberly can get their offense going Cuero could be in for a close game.

And as history has it Reeves does not do well in Close playoff games. he has no problem winning the blowouts but i believe he tends to get outcoached ex) Abline Wylie, Hutto, Wimberly (granted Referees lost the Hutto game for Cuero)

Gobbla2001

11-26-2007, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by headhunter

And as history has it Reeves does not do well in Close playoff games. he has no problem winning the blowouts but i believe he tends to get outcoached ex) Abline Wylie, Hutto, Wimberly

Huh? Wimberley in '04? Palestine in '04? Rio Hondo last year? Those were pretty tense and close games if your definition of close is like everyone else's...

Wimberley last year wasn't really that close after haltime... Buse ran crazy and we weren't tackling worth a darn...

As for Wylie in '04 he wasn't outcoach as much as Abilene Wylie was a damn good team... we made a couple of mistakes in coverage on key plays (went for the ball instead of the coverage, receiver caught it and made a key first down)... Plus Keenum made some great plays down the stretch... he is starting at UofH... Hutto? They got the ball last... we scored twice on one drive but with penalties came out of it with no points... FG beat us...

he wasn't oucoached... we were outplayed and were playing good teams, deep in the playoffs... that's where most of the good teams are, eh?

headhunter

11-26-2007, 12:08 AM

We recovered the fumbled punt with 4 min left to play tied
We ran four plays, stupid plays, a wide reciever sweep with the smallest wide reciever (taylor #3) the first play lost 6 yards, then got a delay of game and burned our last two timeouts

Let me repeat ball inside the 20 less than 4 min and we didnt gain a damn yard. with that line we had we should have played smash mouth football and run north and sout not lateral

He was out coached

I was their I still feel the pain

WylieBulldog92

11-26-2007, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by State_In_08
Wow... 48 to 7 on the voting? People are giving Navasota a better chance of beating LH than Wimberley of beating Cuero.

Navasota isn't .500 team ;)

Gobbla2001

11-26-2007, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by headhunter
We recovered the fumbled punt with 4 min left to play tied
We ran four plays, stupid plays, a wide reciever sweep with the smallest wide reciever (taylor #3) the first play lost 6 yards, then got a delay of game and burned our last two timeouts

Let me repeat ball inside the 20 less than 4 min and we didnt gain a damn yard. with that line we had we should have played smash mouth football and run north and sout not lateral

He was out coached

I was their I still feel the pain

maybe that wasn't the greatest series of plays the man has ever called, but you said he has a history of being outcoached in close gameS... if I give you the blow-out to Wimberley last year, he's 3-3 in these close games you speak of... you make it sound worse than it really is...

gold_33

11-26-2007, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by 8HR
snaxet,
Is it really the "Rocky Balboa" mentality or is it playing weaker competition. According to Massey Ratings the teams Wimberley beat...
Luling - Ranked 134
Bandera - 105
Ingram Moore - 174 (Dead Last)
Llano - 69
South SA West - 164
Lytle - 101

Wimberley lost to...
Giddings - 5
Dripping Springs - 139 in 4A
LE - 46
LH - 3
Wylie - 7

I think instead of "Rocky Balboa" it is playing much weaker teams. Is Wimberley really getting better or not. I say not.

Oh...Cuero is ranked 15th...You don't have a chance...GO MEAN GREEN!!!!!!!!!!

If you would have seen us in the beginning of the year and watch us now we are 10 times better we were soft and looked lost on the field and nobody was on the same page and the O was horrible which lead to the D having to be on the field all the time. The games we lost we were in at halftime but the O's failure to control the ball kept the D on the field and fatigue finally got us. We may have played some weaker opponents later in the season but we did what we were supposed to with them, blow them out. If we would have had some close games to these teams then it would be different. As I said earlier we will see Sat. how far we've come.

headhunter

11-26-2007, 12:14 AM

I dont like that Cuero tries to run laterally when they should attack in my opinion. With the speed they have thay can run by anyone. It plays into the other teams hand when they run sideways because it allows the other team to corral us. when you match up against a fast team those bubble routes just are not as effective.

I believe Reeves is a great coach but he should have won a State championship with the talent he had in the past 4 years.

I understand that the best talent doesnt always win you have to be lucky and get some breaks as well, Like Hutto did i know that Referee blew the game Cuero never blocked in the back when Fabian broke loose, which would have put Cuero up by two scores

All UIL did was send an apology the next week to cuero

I am not faulting Reeves for that but he has to eliminate burning timeouts earlly in those games he needed them at the end

headhunter

11-26-2007, 12:17 AM

Wharton his first playoff game is another

you have to remember Cuero never trailed against Rio hondo, and palestine we were up by two scores most of the night

But I am not arguing about the past I just want to point out that their is some flaws and to be a champ you got to be perfect

headhunter

11-26-2007, 12:20 AM

This is a scary game for both teams because both are well coached, both have respect for each other, both have talent, and both have been deep in the playoffs in the past

Neither team really knows their potential because they havent been tested sinse mid season

gold_33

11-26-2007, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by headhunter
This is a scary game for both teams because both are well coached, both have respect for each other, both have talent, and both have been deep in the playoffs in the past

Neither team really knows their potential because they havent been tested sinse mid season

And both these teams are young and will probably be meeting up for the next few years!!!!

headhunter

11-26-2007, 12:25 AM

I am a cuero fan and I would like to point out that Quincy Whittington may be undersized but should be a D1 prospect.

I dont know if anyone is looking at him but this kid is fast and has great balance. He is so hard to get a clean shot at. I understand that D1 schools like kids 6 foot and 200 lbs however I am not for sure but ladanian tomlinson was 5'10" 180lbs out of highschool
I am not comparing him to lt but I believe the kid should get a chance to play a the next level against the best talent

headhunter

11-26-2007, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by gold_33
And both these teams are young and will probably be meeting up for the next few years!!!!

Agreed and both have young talent that doesnt know how good these kids really can be

Both QB's are very good

snaxet

11-26-2007, 01:09 AM

8HR, you missed my point. Most teams would have checked it in after the Abilene Wylie game and the Cy Woods game would have been a blowout, especially given the quality of the team. I think if that had occurred the team would have lost a lot of confidence, and we probably would have made it to the third round, but not with the level of play that we saw during the last five games. It would have been nice to have played Sinton, LaVernia, Stafford as 3 of our non-district games but since we had to travel all over the state to play, it made for a tough 7 games (with the exception of Luling) before District. Cuero and Wimberley have one common indicator, we both played LH and lost. Both teams are much improved since that loss, and I truly look for both teams to bring their best. Wimberley is a team that has developed a never give up attitude and even when they are down, they will come at you. I respect their hard play and you can be certain that the Coaches will have the Texans ready to play.

HEMOTOXIC

11-26-2007, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by WylieBulldog92
Navasota isn't .500 team ;)

Well, most of the people say we don't stand a chance against LH.

Good luck to your Bullodgs.

Good Luck to Wimberley and Cuero too!

Daddy D 11

11-26-2007, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by headhunter
I believe Reeves is a great coach but he should have won a State championship with the talent he had in the past 4 years.

i can agree with that, they have had an unbelievable amount of talent for these four years :clap:
still, its an amazing program

RattlerDude

11-26-2007, 10:14 AM

Wimberly deserves some props. Their record isn't too pretty but now they are in the third round of the playoffs. Good Job. Just keep it going.

JT44

11-26-2007, 10:19 AM

the two games that we lost were the only ones that having players going both ways hurt Cuero.........

BECAUSE IT WAS AROUND 90 DEGREES IN LH AND 85 W/85% HUMIDITY IN BAY CITY.

their conditioning is better now, those games were early and coming out on the losing end of close games only makes them better now

1stnurseryman

11-26-2007, 10:23 AM

To all of you BLEACHER coach's I am sure if you would go and set down with Coach Reeve and give him all of your infinite wisdom he would be more than glad to use it is his next game that he is being out coached in. Oh and by the way headhunter please don't blow a gasket like you did on the running up the score post.

44INAROW

11-26-2007, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by 1stnurseryman
To all of you BLEACHER coach's
and please, if you're going to SLAM the man, at least spell his name right - it is REEVE Thank you :p

State_In_08

11-26-2007, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by WylieBulldog92
Navasota isn't .500 team ;)

The way people around here act, it doesn't matter. We could be undefeated and wouldn't stand a chance.

Texasfootball2

11-26-2007, 11:37 AM

When Wimberely left Abilene in early October I predicted this matchup in round three. Wimberely had some good players but they looked like inexperienced young players against Wylie, and could not overcome a third quater Wylie explosion. If Wimberely's underclassmen have matured in the last six weeks, the Texans have a chance to make it a game. If Cuero allows Wimberely to hang around until half time, they will have a fight on their hands.

I still think Cuero will win this game and move on to play for the title, but I think they will earn it this Friday.

GreenMachine

11-26-2007, 12:39 PM

I, too, don't like how far our linemen line up off the ball, but it seems as if the last few games haven't been so bad. I also don't like how D. Williams lines up so far off the wide receiver. As fast as he is, he should line up close and bump the receiver. However, saying this, it is hard to fault how our defense is playing of late. I haven't seen Wimberly play this year, but if you are expecting to control the line of scrimmage, you may be in for a long night. Our D line, while not huge this year, is very physical. :thumbsup:

Gobbla2001

11-26-2007, 01:17 PM

I forgot about that Wharton game being a close one, but that was Reeve's first year... the team was 5-6 the years before and only returned 2-3 starters from that sub-par team... we popped off 9 straight wins and ran into a team more talented than we were... he was NOT outcoached... both teams traded scores and Wharton blocked a Cuero FG that would have won it... that is just how it goes...

the man has coached Cuero to a 58-7 record in his first five years with the fifth year not being over yet... that's pretty damn good... he's done a great job wherever he has been... no coach is perfect, not a one... they all have their weaknesses and they all run into teams who are as good as theirs are, and you're not gunna win all of those games, I don't care who you are...

Don't talk about the bad things as if they're 50, even 30% of what goes on... I'd say 2% of it may be bad... and that's about as good as it could be (unless your TJ Mills '94-'97)...

get off of his rocks...

GreenMachine

11-26-2007, 02:14 PM

I wouldn't trade coach Reeve for anybody, PERIOD! The man is an awesome coach. What's even better is what he expects from the boys on and OFF the field. The man has tremendous character and he expects great character from each boy on the team. As a matter of fact, our whole coaching staff is pretty solid!

SNYDER325TIGERS

11-26-2007, 02:15 PM

this will be a better game than expected... I think wimberly comes out in a upset

headhunter

11-26-2007, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by 1stnurseryman
To all of you BLEACHER coach's I am sure if you would go and set down with Coach Reeve and give him all of your infinite wisdom he would be more than glad to use it is his next game that he is being out coached in. Oh and by the way headhunter please don't blow a gasket like you did on the running up the score post.

You must have misunderstood me

Coach Reeve was the right man for the job. It is ashame he didnt replace Littleton sooner. He had to come in at a time where Cueros football program was in very poor shape. And it had nothing to do with talent. While Cuero may have not had the State champion type players when Littleton was here they were good enough to win playoff games and we didnt.

Reeve may be one of the best coaches in this state. It is scary what could have happened had the coach from Columbus accepted the offer before reeve. I dont believe Bluda would have run such a good progam. I think that was his name.

Also I not ripping Coach Reeve all I am saying is we have to be flawless to win state. And we have got to catch some breaks. if you read I support Reeve and the Gobblers I am just pointing out the things that cant happen against Wimberly in order for Cuero to move on.

And I will defend Reeve that he does not run up the score. I didnt blow a gasket. If someone runs their mouth and says crap about Cuero I will let them now their wrong. This is why I hate writing on this board because things are taken out of context. But its addictive

headhunter

11-26-2007, 02:28 PM

headhunter

11-26-2007, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by 44INAROW
and please, if you're going to SLAM the man, at least spell his name right - it is REEVE Thank you :p

I cant spell and plus I never fix spelling errors but I appreciate you telling me this however I am not bashing him

I am only trying to get input from others of what needs to happen in order for Cuero to Win

I like to hear more chatter on this board

headhunter

11-26-2007, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by GreenMachine
I wouldn't trade coach Reeve for anybody, PERIOD! The man is an awesome coach. What's even better is what he expects from the boys on and OFF the field. The man has tremendous character and he expects great character from each boy on the team. As a matter of fact, our whole coaching staff is pretty solid!

I agree

He has helped many of us former players have a chance to play football at the next level.

He has coached many good teams and coached a former Heisman Trophy Winner (bet most of you dont know that)
He knows talent and what to do with it. He also has a lot of contacts which helps when trying to be recruited. Littleton did not

JT44

11-26-2007, 02:38 PM

I can't wait for Saturday, luckily I work the rest of the week so I won't be able to be on as much as today.

anyone know why the games on Saturday? as everyone knows by now cuero usually doesn't do saturday games

crabman

11-26-2007, 02:39 PM

Injuries, injuries, and more injuries. He needs the extra day.

JT44

11-26-2007, 02:40 PM

that's what I was thinking, an extra day of rest won't hurt

GreenMachine

11-26-2007, 02:43 PM

I have boys in the 5th and 6th grade and I sure hope coach Reeve or Travis is here when they're playing.

JT44

11-26-2007, 02:49 PM

well, it's kind of funny but I have a co-worker whose husband called coach reeve and talked to him for about an hour over the summer and he called coach finley over at memorial b/c their son is in the 5th GRADE, they live out by nursery, and he was torn as to where he wants his son to go to junior high school.

headhunter

11-26-2007, 02:51 PM

headhunter

11-26-2007, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by JT44
well, it's kind of funny but I have a co-worker whose husband called coach reeve and talked to him for about an hour over the summer and he called coach finley over at memorial b/c their son is in the 5th GRADE, they live out by nursery, and he was torn as to where he wants his son to go to junior high school.

I would play for Reeves

Finley is a great coach but Victoria is to big and no prestige

Better chance to play and show your skills at Cuero

JT44

11-26-2007, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by headhunter
I would play for Reeves

Finley is a great coach but Victoria is to big and no prestige

Better chance to play and show your skills at Cuero

he just kind of let finley have it about not having continuity throughout the junior high athletic programs

they sent their other son to St. Joe, he's a freshman, for exactly that reason, a chance to play

buff4ever

11-26-2007, 03:00 PM

Cuero in this one, wimberly may be better than early in the year, but not that much better.

headhunter

11-26-2007, 03:02 PM

in defense of Finley it is hard to get a junior high program going in victoria (too big, to many kids)

Also Memorial is a long way from becoming a state contender

they lack speed and have not had a coach in their to teach them how to win

KingRob

11-26-2007, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by JT44
well, it's kind of funny but I have a co-worker whose husband called coach reeve and talked to him for about an hour over the summer and he called coach finley over at memorial b/c their son is in the 5th GRADE, they live out by nursery, and he was torn as to where he wants his son to go to junior high school.

It's a no brainer...send the boy to Cuero. Victoria just has too many problems right now (and not just in football!).

Gobbla2001

11-26-2007, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
I think wimberly comes out in a upset

or ya hope :D

CHSfan

11-26-2007, 08:05 PM

well that was the prob with my cousin because his dad wants him to play football but my dad knows one of the new coaches at memorial and he said that they wont be any good for a while because of the separating of the highschools because in jr high they are building the team and then they will just get torn apart when going into high school!!! SO I WOULD PICK CUERO!!!

headhunter

11-26-2007, 08:51 PM

Lets talk about the game

SNYDER325TIGERS

11-26-2007, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
or ya hope :D

No I want Cuero to win, my heads just tellen me that Wimberly will win by 2 or 3....but who knows what will happen:thinking: :thinking:

rooster

11-26-2007, 09:29 PM

Both schools have quality programs. Both schools played quality
schedules. Wimberley-9 games vs playoff teams (5 wins 4 losses) and Cuero-8 games vs playoff teams (6 wins 2 losses) Both teams lost to Liberty Hill and both lost to 4a teams. There
is a difference in quality wins as Cuero's wins against playoff teams come against teams with a comboned record of 46 wins vs
23 losses; whereas Wimberley's wins against playoff teams come against teams with a combined record of 33 wins vs 28 losses. Although Wimberley has arguably played the toughest schedule in
3a this year, their lack of wins against quality teams says something about the strength of their team this year. It is apparent they are improving each week, but have they improved enough to beat a quality Cuero team. If Cuero turns the ball over on offense, Wimberley can prevail. If Cuero doesn't turn it over, Wimberley will have a difficult time outscoring Cuero. This will be a quality high school football playoff game. Good luck to both teams!

44INAROW

11-26-2007, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by rooster
This will be a quality high school football playoff game. Good luck to both teams!

Welcome to the Downlow Rooster. Nice 1st post! Welcome to our obsession :p

GO MEAN GREEN

gold_33

11-26-2007, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by buff4ever
Cuero in this one, wimberly may be better than early in the year, but not that much better.

Since you dont have a game to watch maybe you should come to Seguin and see for yourself if we're better or not.

Daddy D 11

11-26-2007, 10:45 PM

ill be there to support the texans, i was at this same game last year. it was tooo good of a game for me to miss this year.

go texans! as much as i respect the gobblers, i gotta rep that old 27 3A

Centextrash

11-26-2007, 11:14 PM

I say the Texans let the Lady texanne Vollyball team play in the secondary so they can Bump, set and Spike the Gobbler passes.

Texannes in the Upset

Wimbo 24
Turkeys 21

Gobbla2001

11-26-2007, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by Centextrash
I say the Texans let the Lady texanne Vollyball team play in the secondary so they can Bump, set and Spike the Gobbler passes.

Texannes in the Upset

Wimbo 24
Turkeys 21

I say if the Texans don't like their Texannes with missing teeth in their grill that's not a good idea :D

wimbo_pro

11-27-2007, 10:05 AM

What makes you think they don't already have missing teeth in their grills right now???

buff4ever

11-27-2007, 10:07 AM

What has this thread come to, Volleyball?

Congratulations wimberly on your volleyball season!

bigstew43

11-27-2007, 12:21 PM

I have seen Cuero play a few times, last year Rio Hondo and Wimberley, this year Port Isabel. They have some excellent athletes at the skill positions, no doubt. #10 and #40 are the best defensive players that I’ve seen all year. But it seems Cuero does not respond well when they get “hit in the mouth!” Rio Hondo had physical defense, granted Cuero won but they did not dominate at all. Against Wimberley in the Alamo-dome, Cuero got dominated! The Wimberley O-line “out-played and out-techniqued” the Cuero defense. #49 for Cuero seems to play soft and does not play hard every play. Against Port Isabel I was not impressed with his play. Maybe it’s because he goes both ways. He has a great body but I don’t think he is that good. If I remember he wasn’t even on the field that much in the 2nd half last year against Wimberley. I don’t want to come off like I am bashing a kid, but I guess I am. I do not see how Dave Campbell put him 2nd team All-State last year

44INAROW

11-27-2007, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by bigstew43
I have seen Cuero play a few times, last year Rio Hondo and Wimberley, this year Port Isabel. I don’t want to come off like I am bashing a kid, but I guess I am.

wow..................:eek:

not much to base such a harsh bashing of a 17 year old in my opinion - but we're all entitled to our own opinions......

headhunter

11-27-2007, 01:20 PM

garciap77

11-27-2007, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by buff4ever
What has this thread come to, Volleyball?

Congratulations wimberly on your volleyball season!

Just don’t not bring the baseball bats in, that could violated the UIL rules, or is it only taking the team out for dinner?;) ;) ;)

garciap77

11-27-2007, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
What makes you think they don't already have missing teeth in their grills right now???

Dang! wimbo_pro!:eek: :eek: :eek:

GreenMachine

11-27-2007, 02:27 PM

rooster

11-27-2007, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by bigstew43
I have seen Cuero play a few times, last year Rio Hondo and Wimberley, this year Port Isabel. They have some excellent athletes at the skill positions, no doubt. #10 and #40 are the best defensive players that I’ve seen all year. But it seems Cuero does not respond well when they get “hit in the mouth!” Rio Hondo had physical defense, granted Cuero won but they did not dominate at all. Against Wimberley in the Alamo-dome, Cuero got dominated! The Wimberley O-line “out-played and out-techniqued” the Cuero defense. #49 for Cuero seems to play soft and does not play hard every play. Against Port Isabel I was not impressed with his play. Maybe it’s because he goes both ways. He has a great body but I don’t think he is that good. If I remember he wasn’t even on the field that much in the 2nd half last year against Wimberley. I don’t want to come off like I am bashing a kid, but I guess I am. I do not see how Dave Campbell put him 2nd team All-State last year

Dominate is a strong word that should be used carefully. To say that Cuero did not dominate Rio Hondo would be a stretch as the score was 20-0 until 1:46 was left in the game. If one deducts the 55 yards of offense Rio Hondo had in the last drive against
Cuero's reserves and the 45 yard pass that Cuero conceded to Rio Hondo had on the last play of the first half, Cuero held Rio Hondo to 7 first downs and 133 yards of total offense while Cuero scored 20 points and put up 18 first downs and 290 yards of total offense against Rio Hondo's starters. That may not be dominating, but it is certainly soundly defeating. To say that Wimberley dominated Cuero is clearly not true. Wimberley most assuredly had a great team, but the difference in the game was three Cuero turnovers to none for Wimberley and a very questionable pass interference call against Cuero that turned the momentum of the game. Cuero had 28 first downs to Wimberley's 23. In fact, after a Cuero fumble that led to Wimberley's second touchdown, Cuero ran off 19 straight points and 19 first downs to Wimberley's 1 first down. Total yards for the game were Wimberley 446 to Cuero's 437. That is not domination, just Wimberley taking advantage of three turnovers and a questionable call. Cuero and Wimberley are both quality programs. Be careful when using the word "dominate" when only looking at the score.

bigstew43

11-27-2007, 04:22 PM

Maybe I should not have used the word dominate. But it was clear to me that Cuero was not the better team against Wimberley. Just overall. Stats are great to analyze but it does not always give a clear indication of the game. Maybe I should have said Wimberley “out-executed” Cuero. Maybe it was that I saw Rio Hondo “out-hit” Cuero. Just my observation.

pirate4state

11-27-2007, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by bigstew43
I don’t want to come off like I am bashing a kid, but I guess I am. I do not see how Dave Campbell put him 2nd team All-State last year :dispntd: :speech: Kid being the keyword. Not cool! :hand:

rooster

11-27-2007, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by bigstew43
Maybe I should not have used the word dominate. But it was clear to me that Cuero was not the better team against Wimberley. Just overall. Stats are great to analyze but it does not always give a clear indication of the game. Maybe I should have said Wimberley “out-executed” Cuero. Maybe it was that I saw Rio Hondo “out-hit” Cuero. Just my observation.

I can agree with "out executed". If Rio Hondo "out-hit" Cuero, then Cuero can take it on the chin and still prevail.

Gobbla2001

11-27-2007, 07:00 PM

execution is what wins a game... obviously Cuero was not out-executed by Rio Hondo last year...

As for Cuero being dominated by Wimberley last year? I agree... I don't care how many yards Cuero had they were dominated in the second half of that game, pure and simple...

the only thing these two games have in common is that they were last year...

So, when speaking about this year, what have you got to say?

I don't know which #49 you've seen, but Kaeron has done a fantastic job on defense... as much as you can ask... he is for sure not soft...

the defense will be fine, they've gotten better each week so just stop whining... this weekend is where it goes down, this is where we'll find out how much improvement they've made through the season... we got beat by two GREAT teams earlier on and since have beaten two teams that are still in the playoffs, handily I might add...

Just sit back and watch, stop trying to make mountains out of ant-hills...

Gobbla2001

11-27-2007, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by bigstew43
Maybe it was that I saw Rio Hondo “out-hit” Cuero. .

hits aren't even a stat, much less a trait of the better team :rolleyes:

Gobbla2001

11-27-2007, 07:11 PM

always, in regards to griping about this defense...

#1 we played Liberty Hill... they've scored on people like that all year... it was our first big test and they scored some damn points (one on a turnover)...

#2 even with that high scoring game and Bay City's 29 point game and Gonzales' 27 point game we still give up an average of 15 a game... that's not too damn bad...

we held Mathis to 7 points and PI to 14... all of those points were in the second half when we had pretty much won the game already...

you guys need to chilllll

JT44

11-27-2007, 07:43 PM

also, cuero scored on those teams as well

GreenMachine

11-27-2007, 08:19 PM

Well I am not griping about the defense, but against LH, I would have liked to see our defensive line get up on the ball. I would have also have liked to see some linebackers fill the gaps hard and even try to blow up some plays in the backfield... something we never did. I am not taking anything away from LH, because they are a great team, but they scored on every possession they had after the first when the ball was stripped. That should not happen to a championship caliber team. We played conservatively that game on defense, when we needed to be the aggressor. Sure, you might give up a big play every now and then, but it is better than 5+ yards every play. Sometimes he needs to turn our linemen and linebackers loose and let them make some plays. Just a thought.

Gobbla2001

11-27-2007, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by GreenMachine
Well I am not griping about the defense, but against LH, I would have liked to see our defensive line get up on the ball. I would have also have liked to see some linebackers fill the gaps hard and even try to blow up some plays in the backfield... something we never did. I am not taking anything away from LH, because they are a great team, but they scored on every possession they had after the first when the ball was stripped. That should not happen to a championship caliber team. We played conservatively that game on defense, when we needed to be the aggressor. Sure, you might give up a big play every now and then, but it is better than 5+ yards every play. Sometimes he needs to turn our linemen and linebackers loose and let them make some plays. Just a thought.

well I agree they could maybe turn 'em loose a bit more, but that was earlier in the season, the first big test, and I'm sure a lesson has been learned... just think it's nothing to dwell on is all

GreenMachine

11-27-2007, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
well I agree they could maybe turn 'em loose a bit more, but that was earlier in the season, the first big test, and I'm sure a lesson has been learned... just think it's nothing to dwell on is all Agreed ;)

CHSfan

11-27-2007, 08:31 PM

it is taking all that i have to keep my mouth shut on this one!! so yall should be proud!!

headhunter

11-27-2007, 09:13 PM

Cuero hardly ever blitz'

Hopefully reeve will open up the playbook and bring the linebackers and maybe a safty a time or to

reeve doesnt like to blitz I dont no why he just doesnt do a lot of it. i know I played for him

I would also like to see some emotion from our defense when they make a sack or interception, i feel that if the defense makes big plays and gets the momentum on Cueros side it carries over on offense and the fans get even louder. Sometime I feel when one of our guys makes a tackle in the backfield they dont enjoy it enough it seems to routine, while i understand you cant get carried away with celebrating i would like to see some emotion. Same goes when scoring a touchdown I know Cuero score a lot of them but its a big deal and those players should get hyped up about it. Im not downgrading them I just like to see those guys having fun a playing with passion.

CueroDad2006

11-27-2007, 09:24 PM

I have been real close on most of my predictions this year.
This game will be a classic
I'll have to stay with the high scoring Gobblers in this one.
Cuero
35
Texans
31

crabman

11-27-2007, 09:57 PM

The defense that lines up a yard and a half off the ball is the same defense that beat Liberty Hill last year before they went on to win state. No one was complaining about it last year after that game. Reeve has explained to me that it is all about blocking angles and lanes. He has seen the slot T for 40 years. He knows what it is and how to defense it. The difference between last years Liberty Hill team and this years is the fact that their line is way better this year and their coach had seen how our coach beat him last year. It is a chess match and a personnel isssue. It is the things that message boards thrive on.......

GreenMachine

11-28-2007, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by crabman
The defense that lines up a yard and a half off the ball is the same defense that beat Liberty Hill last year before they went on to win state. No one was complaining about it last year after that game. Reeve has explained to me that it is all about blocking angles and lanes. He has seen the slot T for 40 years. He knows what it is and how to defense it. The difference between last years Liberty Hill team and this years is the fact that their line is way better this year and their coach had seen how our coach beat him last year. It is a chess match and a personnel isssue. It is the things that message boards thrive on....... Guess you told me... and I guess that's why I'm not a coach.

Gobbla2001

11-28-2007, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by headhunter
Cuero hardly ever blitz'

Hopefully reeve will open up the playbook and bring the linebackers and maybe a safty a time or to

reeve doesnt like to blitz I dont no why he just doesnt do a lot of it. i know I played for him

I would also like to see some emotion from our defense when they make a sack or interception, i feel that if the defense makes big plays and gets the momentum on Cueros side it carries over on offense and the fans get even louder. Sometime I feel when one of our guys makes a tackle in the backfield they dont enjoy it enough it seems to routine, while i understand you cant get carried away with celebrating i would like to see some emotion. Same goes when scoring a touchdown I know Cuero score a lot of them but its a big deal and those players should get hyped up about it. Im not downgrading them I just like to see those guys having fun a playing with passion.

I'd like to see more emotion as well, but that's just for my own enjoyment... they're just out there taking care of business, kinda like that about 'em...

JT44

11-28-2007, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
I'd like to see more emotion as well, but that's just for my own enjoyment... they're just out there taking care of business, kinda like that about 'em...

they'll celebrate when they get their ultimate goal....a play here and there and a td is just a small step,

on the blitzing thing, he let's #30 ruiz pretty much blitz when he feels he can get to the qb or backs, as long as he and the other db's know

the d-line thing used to irritate me also, but in the scheme of that defense it works, after all, the safeties are also on the l.o.s against those running teams.

SiNtOnFaN07

11-28-2007, 12:41 PM

GO CUERO!!!! :)

GreenMachine

11-28-2007, 03:02 PM

OK MVDV, get your butt on here and let us know what you think... I know you're watching :thinking: :D

iknoweverything

11-28-2007, 05:39 PM

Havent seen Wimberley this year so i cant talk about that but what I have seen of Cuero has impressed me. The qb is amazing for a sophmore and the offense with him and quincy is going to be hard to contain. I know Cuero is a little banged up and that is no ones fault but their own. The starters played the entire game last week and i cannont figure it out. It makes no sense at all. Could come back to cost them.

44INAROW

11-28-2007, 05:54 PM

Gotta love the folks that know it all.............. :doh:

iknoweverything

11-28-2007, 06:18 PM

It really is a shame that Reeve leaves those kids in there that long when up by so much. One play and the season.

gold_33

11-28-2007, 06:21 PM

I think this game will come down to how much our offense can help our defense. The offense needs to limit the turnovers and have some long drives that come away with points. I think our defense is good enough to hang with Cuero but if they're on the field for most of the game like the LH, Abilene Wylie or Giddings game we're done. Most of the big games we played this year we had a chance of winning going into half, i think LH we were down 7-3 at half, AW we were down 14-7, and Giddings down 21-7. 2nd half turnovers and easy scores for the other teams lost us those games. Thats where we needed to improve the most and we'll see this weekend how far we've come. I think this game will be decided by Cuero's D vs. Wimberley's O, if Cuero forces us into mistakes and keeps our D on the field they will win.

naclh2o

11-28-2007, 06:28 PM

I know Cuero is a little banged up and that is no ones fault but their own. The starters played the entire game last week and i cannont figure it out. It makes no sense at all. Could come back to cost them.

How's this for a first post? I've got to agree with the above comment by iknoweverything. My biggest question during the entire 4th quarter of the PI game was "why are our starters still in there?" Only bad things can come of it. The win was secured; the starters weren't going to get better by playing an extra 12 minutes against a vastly inferior team.

The object is to win these games and get to the next round with a chance to win again, right?. Margin of victory doesn't matter at this point, does it?. If one of the stud players gets hurt during garbage time of a blowout the amount of second guessing on this message board might shut down the entire internet.

iknoweverything

11-28-2007, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by naclh2o
How's this for a first post? I've got to agree with the above comment by iknoweverything. My biggest question during the entire 4th quarter of the PI game was "why are our starters still in there?" Only bad things can come of it. The win was secured; the starters weren't going to get better by playing an extra 12 minutes against a vastly inferior team.

The object is to win these games and get to the next round with a chance to win again, right?. Margin of victory doesn't matter at this point, does it?. If one of the stud players gets hurt during garbage time of a blowout the amount of second guessing on this message board might shut down the entire internet.

I cant figure it out, Cuero has the ball at the very end of the game and the starters run out on the field and they hand quincy the ball????? Unbelieveable. Then they come out the next play. Why even put them out there?

Gobbla2001

11-28-2007, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by iknoweverything
I cant figure it out, Cuero has the ball at the very end of the game

PI scored with 3 seconds left in the game... Cuero didn't run a play at the very end of the game...

The Cuero starters played one drive into the 4th quarter last week and started another with about 8 minutes left... I remember after a first down (or during that same drive) coach Reeve sending in the reserves... I actually remember him called two of 'em back and saying "Protect the ball"...

you guys crack me up

naclh2o

11-28-2007, 07:43 PM

PI scored with 3 seconds left in the game... Cuero didn't run a play at the very end of the game...

The Cuero starters played one drive into the 4th quarter last week and started another with about 8 minutes left... I remember after a first down (or during that same drive) coach Reeve sending in the reserves... I actually remember him called two of 'em back and saying "Protect the ball"...

you guys crack me up

Agreed. Some 2nd team offensive players went in on the last Cuero possession. But I distinctly remember Quincy making a great hit in PI's backfield on their last drive; right before they scored.

It's a pretty esoteric thing to argue about, but we are having the game a day later than normal, apparently because of a few dings. An extra day wouldn't help a separated shoulder or blown out knee. I'm just advocating that some caution should be exercised when a blow out is in full swing. Who cares if PI scores 3 TD's in the 4th quarter?

Glad I helped crack you up tonight.

1stnurseryman

11-28-2007, 09:02 PM

No amount of running in practice can get you in the shape that you will need to be in if you run up against a team that takes you all four quarters to beat. That is why when you get further in the playoffs you will see the starers stay in longer no matter what the score is. You can run around being scared of injuries are you can play your starters. I guess in your mind Cooper should not been playing in scrimage that meant nothing. Its called be in PLAYIN SHAPE. And yes you do crack me up.

naclh2o

11-28-2007, 09:16 PM

Agree to disagree. But, the starters (at least on offense) did get pulled (rightly so, IMO) after 2 offensive plays vs. Mathis (early 3rd quarter). Where was the "playin shape" theory there?

I doubt they are much better conditioned as a result of staying in an extra quarter against PI. It doesn't matter as long as no one gets hurt. Hopefully it will stay that way. I'm not rooting any less as a result of them staying in the game; just saying my piece, dude.

headhunter

11-28-2007, 09:31 PM

Here is the deal

The minute you start worrying about injuries and when to take players out you are looking at the game the wrong way. If there are things a coach feels he need to work on or has a gut feeling that he needs to leave them in then that is what he gets paid to do.

You have got to PLAY TO WIN not play to lose. I understand that teams that are down ny 40 points late in playoff games may be out there to ruin someones season (teams with no class) however you can not look at the negative things. Coach Reeves gets paid to make these decisions and if an injury occurs its just part of the game. Also #68 Smith has had ankle trouble since about week 7 and Zapata has had a bummed shoulder for a few weeks. Just send the kids to play the game dont worry about if they are going to get hurt. By this time everyone has some bump and bruises. If Reeve keeps those guys in for a while longer than you think they should well thats why we pay him to the big bucks.

I would like to see us rotate some second string players in with the first team when the game is in hand (like in the 3rd quarter up by 4scores). I dont think the entire second team needs to go in at once. Sometimes when those second team players play with first team they will benefit more. however the entire second team needs to get in their in the 4th like in the Mathis game.

naclh2o

11-28-2007, 09:50 PM

That's pretty much what I've been saying all along. It's not like I was suggesting we trot in the freshman after the 1st td. Just don't leave the key players in when we're up 4 tds in Q4. I think it's pretty hard to argue if you think about it.

GreenMachine

11-28-2007, 10:05 PM

what is Smith's status for this week?

crabman

11-28-2007, 10:10 PM

He could have actually gone back in the PI game but there was no need. X-rays were negative. It is just a high ankle sprain. He played a half dozen plays against PI and will have eight days rest before Wimberly. He is good to go.

GreenMachine

11-28-2007, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by crabman
He could have actually gone back in the PI game but there was no need. X-rays were negative. It is just a high ankle sprain. He played a half dozen plays against PI and will have eight days rest before Wimberly. He is good to go. :thumbsup: :clap:

iknoweverything

11-28-2007, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by 1stnurseryman
No amount of running in practice can get you in the shape that you will need to be in if you run up against a team that takes you all four quarters to beat. That is why when you get further in the playoffs you will see the starers stay in longer no matter what the score is. You can run around being scared of injuries are you can play your starters. I guess in your mind Cooper should not been playing in scrimage that meant nothing. Its called be in PLAYIN SHAPE. And yes you do crack me up.

You obv need help. Its the 10th game of the season. If they are not in playing shape now they never will be. You take them out.

1stnurseryman

11-28-2007, 10:20 PM

Read my lips, I said the further you get in the playoffs the longer your starters stay in. Now correct me if I am wrong but the PI game was after the Mathis game, therefore longer playing time for starters, and if you don't think there is such thing as being in playing shape then you really crack me up.

gold_33

11-28-2007, 10:29 PM

If you have a young team most the time coaches will leave their starters in a little longer than usual. If you been blowin people out all season then they probably havent been playin 4qtrs anyway all season and the coach knows during the playoffs that his team will face a challenge when the players will need to be in there for 4 qtrs so players will start playing longer no matter if its a blowout or not. Then slowly start putting backups in but letting the players who need the playing time stay in a little longer. It keeps kids from getting nervous late in the game when they haven't been used to being in there especially a young QB.

headhunter

11-28-2007, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by 1stnurseryman
Read my lips, I said the further you get in the playoffs the longer your starters stay in. Now correct me if I am wrong but the PI game was after the Mathis game, therefore longer playing time for starters, and if you don't think there is such thing as being in playing shape then you really crack me up.

you are right

You have got to learn to finish games and be in shape

Let the boys play

iknoweverything

11-28-2007, 11:03 PM

never said there wasnt such a thing as game shape. There is no question about that we all know there is a difference between being in shape and being in game shape. What im saying is why risk injury when the game is done? Those guys are in every kind of shape you can think of . What kind of work is the young qb gettting at the end of the game. How to hand off????

Gobbla2001

11-29-2007, 01:24 AM

All I've got to say is "you don't know much"...

and that's about all I don't really need to say... people who have read this thread have figured it out by now...

why aren't you coaching, btw?

buff4ever

11-29-2007, 01:33 AM

Still taking cuero by a lot in this one, especially since I remember tonite that wimberly people threw food at our band. Apparently for playing too long. That is still just wrong, how can you folks live with yourselves, that is just a shame.:) :) :D

iknoweverything

11-29-2007, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
All I've got to say is "you don't know much"...

and that's about all I don't really need to say... people who have read this thread have figured it out by now...

why aren't you coaching, btw?

Maybe will be soon. Cant coach if i dont have a degree obv. Imo.

Gobbla2001

11-29-2007, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by buff4ever
Still taking cuero by a lot in this one, especially since I remember tonite that wimberly people threw food at our band. Apparently for playing too long. That is still just wrong, how can you folks live with yourselves, that is just a shame.:) :) :D

I must say after attending a few Wimberley games in my day, that this must be an isolated incident...

State_In_08

11-29-2007, 01:39 AM

Don't know all that much about either team, except that Cuero is super good. :)

Cuero by a lot.

GreenMachine

11-29-2007, 02:20 PM

For this to be such a big game, this sure has been a dull thread. Two days before the game, with the chance to advance to the next round and no chatter :thinking: I could understand the first two of our games being kind of dull, because we were suppose to whip the tar out of Mathis and PI... but come on, this is Wimberly. Cuero, according to the Victoria Advocate, is very "up" for this game. I say we roll to the next round!!! ;)

Daddy D 11

11-29-2007, 02:28 PM

(chatter) :)

haha

ill be at this game, hope its a good one. i just think in the end, the gobblers QB will be too much for the secondary of Wimberley

gold_33

11-29-2007, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by GreenMachine
For this to be such a big game, this sure has been a dull thread. Two days before the game, with the chance to advance to the next round and no chatter :thinking: I could understand the first two of our games being kind of dull, because we were suppose to whip the tar out of Mathis and PI... but come on, this is Wimberly. Cuero, according to the Victoria Advocate, is very "up" for this game. I say we roll to the next round!!! ;)

I think its because both teams respect each other and know that you can throw records, stats and everything else the window when this game rolls around because its just good smashmouth football and the game can go either way in the drop of a hat. The 04 game was a war and last year it was back and forth through the first half before Wimberley broke it open in the second, we were underdogs in both those games but it didn't seem to matter once the game started. Usually not much trash talking goes on before this game cause I believe everyone is anxious and nervous and just leaves it up to the kids to decide this for thmeselves.

Corn Cob

11-29-2007, 02:37 PM

GreenMachine

11-29-2007, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by gold_33
I think its because both teams respect each other and know that you can throw records, stats and everything else the window when this game rolls around because its just good smashmouth football and the game can go either way in the drop of a hat. The 04 game was a war and last year it was back and forth through the first half before Wimberley broke it open in the second, we were underdogs in both those games but it didn't seem to matter once the game started. Usually not much trash talking goes on before this game cause I believe everyone is anxious and nervous and just leaves it up to the kids to decide this for thmeselves. Yeah, you are right. That is why I don't like playing ya'll :D Too much mutual respect ;) I would much rather play someone such as... Rio Hondo and their infamous fan (Johnny 5). Alas, they are no longer in it :doh:

gold_33

11-29-2007, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by GreenMachine
Yeah, you are right. That is why I don't like playing ya'll :D Too much mutual respect ;) I would much rather play someone such as... Rio Hondo and their infamous fan (Johnny 5). Alas, they are no longer in it :doh:

This is always just a scary, nerve racking week everytime we play yall cause no matter what someone isnt gonna be playing next week and you just don't know who it's gonna be cause these are two teams that lay it all on the line against each other. We gave so much last year that I think it effected us the next week against Hondo and we lost.

headhunter

11-29-2007, 04:08 PM

I agree

The game last year took a freat deal out of yall
I think yall should have beat Hondo but it was just to hard to come out with the same amount of intesity as yall did against Cuero

headhunter

11-29-2007, 04:09 PM

I dont know a lot about Wimberly but can we expect them to run more or come out with a passing attack

I know Cuero will be pretty balaced but I wouldn't mind seeing a shootout and having alot of exciting big plays

gold_33

11-29-2007, 04:14 PM

We run the spread, past couple of years we were a big play kinda team but not until late have we got back to that.

headhunter

11-29-2007, 04:40 PM

Thats what I kind of thought. I know yalls QB was kind of green early in the season and I believe yall tried to run the ball a bit more but from the stats and what i have heard is that the kid has grown up and started to control the offense a lot better. Much like Cuero did with their young QB. This will be a game where both QB's will be expected to manage the game and not make mistakes. Their job will be to get the ball to their playmakers and maybe come up with a few big plays of their own.

I would expect either team to try and start pounding the ball, I think we may see some trickery, some big pass plays, and some big special teams momentum changing plays.

In a close game special teams could be a factor, getting three points may be a good thing on some drives and field posession will be a key factor. In close games usually special teams will make a difference. That is if it is a close game. Which I predict will be.

wimbo_pro

11-29-2007, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
I must say after attending a few Wimberley games in my day, that this must be an isolated incident...

You're right, Gobbla...isolated. if I saw ANYONE from our side throwing ANYTHING at the opposing fans/team, there would be swift and sure action to stop it. If it did happen (and I have no reason to doubt Buff4life) I apologize as a fan and a Texan supporter. There is no room for this type of behavior.

buff4life

11-29-2007, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
You're right, Gobbla...isolated. if I saw ANYONE from our side throwing ANYTHING at the opposing fans/team, there would be swift and sure action to stop it. If it did happen (and I have no reason to doubt Buff4life) I apologize as a fan and a Texan supporter. There is no room for this type of behavior.

It was Buff4ever that saw it...but it didn't bother me if stuff was thrown at the band, i'm not a big supporter of them...

44INAROW

11-29-2007, 11:31 PM

Not looking back
Cuero focusing on the next game with Wimberley, not the last two

BY MIKE FORMAN - ADVOCATE SPORTS WRITER
November 29, 2007
CUERO – A 55-33 loss to Wimberley in last year’s Class 3A, Division II regional playoffs was hard to swallow, but what really stuck in the craw of Cuero coach Mark Reeve was the way his team performed.

“Looking back at all the games we played since we’ve been here, I think the first half against Rice Consolidated (the 2003 season opener) and the second half against Wimberley were the only ones where I haven’t felt good about how we played,” said Reeve, who is in fifth season at Cuero. “Those things leave the worst taste in your mouth. The wins and losses are going to come but you want to play well. You do not want there to be any regrets left on the football field.”

Cuero fell behind 14-0 before rallying to take a 19-14 lead at halftime against the Texans. But the Gobblers saw their state title hopes quashed and undefeated season come to an end at the Alamodome in San Antonio when they were outscored 41-19 in the final two quarters.

“We didn’t tackle well,” Reeve said. “There were a lot of times when we had a chance to make plays and we didn’t. There are a million different things you could say. They never really stopped us but we stopped ourselves. The first half we let them get ahead and we came back. But we didn’t stop them in the second half.”

The Gobblers (10-2) get a chance to take a little sting out of last year’s loss when they meet Wimberley (6-6) in a Division II regional playoff rematch Saturday at 6 p.m. at Matador Stadium in Seguin.

“There’s not another team we’d rather be playing,” Cuero senior Kaeron Johnson said. “We know it’s going to be a great atmosphere, the stadium will be packed and it should have the full effect of a state championship game.”

Wimberley scored six touchdowns and gained 327 of its 446 yards in the second half against a Cuero defense that hadn’t allowed more than 27 points in any previous game.

“We just weren’t mentally prepared,” Johnson said. “I think we were letting our previous victories get into our heads. We weren’t taking it day by day like we should.”

Johnson doesn’t expect the Gobblers to have any problems focusing on this year’s game and hopes they learned from their mistakes.

“We know we’ve got to stop the run because that hurt us last year,” Johnson said. “We’ve got to communicate well and line up right. We have to know what coverage we’re in and most of all we have to play hard.”

The Gobblers haven’t forgotten last year’s regional loss to Wimberley but they would rather remember the 21-17 win over the Texans in a 2004 Division I regional playoff game played at Matador Stadium.

“That’s what’s exciting about this round is you know you’re going to end up playing a great football team,” Reeve said. “That’s what the playoffs are all about.”

Revenge may be a nice motive for the Gobblers as it was for the Texans in the last meeting, but Reeve knows what happened in 2004 or last season will have very little bearing on Saturday’s game.

“There are two things in football that don’t matter,” Reeve said, “last year and last week.”
Click here to see the article (www.victoriaadvocate.com)

One game at a time Gobblers..........

GO MEAN GREEN :)

TexanAlum_06

11-29-2007, 11:40 PM

Oh I hope theres FOG!!! that would really make the atmosphere that much more intense!

iknoweverything

11-30-2007, 01:51 AM

Cuero will win by 34577 and leave their starters in the eintire game.

wimbo_pro

11-30-2007, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by iknoweverything
Cuero will win by 34577 and leave their starters in the eintire game.

Anyone who has Cuero winning by more than 30,000 points is absolutely crazy and uninformed.

pirate4state

11-30-2007, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by iknoweverything
Cuero will win by 34577 and leave their starters in the eintire game.

:doh: :doh:

only 34577??? :thinking: that's disappointing!

GreenMachine

11-30-2007, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by iknoweverything
Cuero will win by 34577 and leave their starters in the eintire game. Wonder who the "newbie" is that can't spell :thinking: :D

gtown

11-30-2007, 11:59 AM

Good luck Gobblers! I say you take it by 14!!

wimbo_pro

11-30-2007, 12:00 PM

I can see maybe 20,000 points....30,000 if our defense doesnt show up....but 34,577??? Please.....

BillyChapel

11-30-2007, 12:32 PM

good luck wimberley. You guys code red them again.

iknoweverything

11-30-2007, 03:44 PM

In all honesty I think Wimberley will give Cuero all they can handle. I still think Cuero's offense will be enough to pull them through in the end. I say Cuero by 14 in a shootout. Good luck guys.

TexanAlum_06

11-30-2007, 06:30 PM

I think the first couple of plays of this game could either make it or break it for us... reason being, if we get the ball first and go 3 and out or turn the ball over or cuero gets the ball first and runs the kickoff back or scores in a play or 2. that will make or break our confidence early and I just dont know how we will respond to getting down early and losing MOMENTUM from the get go in a game with implications like this against a salty team like cuero...Reason i say that is because last week we let an inferior Lytle team come out and hit us right in the mouth and whip us for all of about 8 minutes, now we finally woke up and started to play football in the 2nd qaurter and responded with 42 unanswered points en route to a 42-6 victory but the point is, we cant afford to let that happen this week against cuero or it could be fatal, because we aint playin a cupcake this week. If we get down by a considerable margin we dont have the quick strike capabilites to catch up like we had the last 2 years. so the first 3-5 minutes of this game could be huge in a good or bad way for the Texans. We need to gain the momemtum from the get go and play high intensity reckless abandon football and never look back.with all that said. COULD THIS WEEK BE DRAGGIN ALONG ANY SLOWER!!!! lets play some football already.. Bring on the Turkeys and the FOG!!!!!!.

JT44

11-30-2007, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by TexanAlum_06
I think the first couple of plays of this game could either make it or break it for us... reason being, if we get the ball first and go 3 and out or turn the ball over or cuero gets the ball first and runs the kickoff back or scores in a play or 2. that will make or break our confidence early and I just dont know how we will respond to getting down early and losing MOMENTUM from the get go in a game with implications like this against a salty team like cuero...Reason i say that is because last week we let an inferior Lytle team come out and hit us right in the mouth and whip us for all of about 8 minutes, now we finally woke up and started to play football in the 2nd qaurter and responded with 42 unanswered points en route to a 42-6 victory but the point is, we cant afford to let that happen this week against cuero or it could be fatal, because we aint playin a cupcake this week. If we get down by a considerable margin we dont have the quick strike capabilites to catch up like we had the last 2 years. so the first 3-5 minutes of this game could be huge in a good or bad way for the Texans. We need to gain the momemtum from the get go and play high intensity reckless abandon football and never look back.with all that said. COULD THIS WEEK BE DRAGGIN ALONG ANY SLOWER!!!! lets play some football already.. Bring on the Turkeys and the FOG!!!!!!.

and there's no doubt Cuero will be looking to score quick, and a 3 and out for wimbo could give a lot of confidence to the defense.

gold_33

11-30-2007, 08:52 PM

Weather forecast shows cloudy with slight chance of rain and fog late. How weird would that be if it really was the fog bowl II?

gobbler grad

11-30-2007, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by TexanAlum_06
I think the first couple of plays of this game could either make it or break it for us... reason being, if we get the ball first and go 3 and out or turn the ball over or cuero gets the ball first and runs the kickoff back or scores in a play or 2. that will make or break our confidence early and I just dont know how we will respond to getting down early and losing MOMENTUM from the get go in a game with implications like this against a salty team like cuero...Reason i say that is because last week we let an inferior Lytle team come out and hit us right in the mouth and whip us for all of about 8 minutes, now we finally woke up and started to play football in the 2nd qaurter and responded with 42 unanswered points en route to a 42-6 victory but the point is, we cant afford to let that happen this week against cuero or it could be fatal, because we aint playin a cupcake this week. If we get down by a considerable margin we dont have the quick strike capabilites to catch up like we had the last 2 years. so the first 3-5 minutes of this game could be huge in a good or bad way for the Texans. We need to gain the momemtum from the get go and play high intensity reckless abandon football and never look back.with all that said. COULD THIS WEEK BE DRAGGIN ALONG ANY SLOWER!!!! lets play some football already.. Bring on the Turkeys and the FOG!!!!!!.

Cuero will give you the ball first...so do what you need to do...:thinking:

SintonFan_inAustin

11-30-2007, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by gobbler grad
Cuero will give you the ball first...so do what you need to do...:thinking: i only stayed to the half in PI game. i looking forward to a full game like last time they met in Seguin.

headhunter

11-30-2007, 11:29 PM

Palacios won 31-20

Congrats sharks

Llano was terrible they were slow could not throw the ball and could not even make any of their extra points. Palacios played well. didnt block great for solis but he made a lot happen, they threw the ball well and played strong D. I look forward to seeing them next week.

Cuero got to take care of business. Cant take nothing for Granted

Go Gobblers

TexanAlum_06

11-30-2007, 11:38 PM

palacious didnt impress me too much.... their RB has some moves but other then him and the LB #44 they dont have much at all. I will tell you one thing, If we do win tmrw night and get to play palacious next week I cant wait for our defense to get a piece of that RB. hes a cocky one.

headhunter

11-30-2007, 11:40 PM

I agree both teams pretty weak but llano was very very slow

Write on the palacios Llano thread

rb585

12-01-2007, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by iknoweverything
Cuero will win by 34577 and leave their starters in the eintire game.

No, that's Liberty Hill.

Wimberley can't stop the pass, so I think Cuero takes it 42-28 or so.

I am pretty surprised that the Cuero fans are so confident after all the crow they ate last year... which one of you was it last year who said that anybody who expected any team to score more than 40 against Cuero was insane? :D

44INAROW

12-01-2007, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by rb585
No, that's Liberty Hill.

Wimberley can't stop the pass, so I think Cuero takes it 42-28 or so.

I am pretty surprised that the Cuero fans are so confident after all the crow they ate last year... which one of you was it last year who said that anybody who expected any team to score more than 40 against Cuero was insane? :D

it's all in good fun......... if you'll notice, just a few are being "confident" the majority have a healthy respect.

JT44

12-01-2007, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by rb585
No, that's Liberty Hill.

Wimberley can't stop the pass, so I think Cuero takes it 42-28 or so.

I am pretty surprised that the Cuero fans are so confident after all the crow they ate last year... which one of you was it last year who said that anybody who expected any team to score more than 40 against Cuero was insane? :D

us level headed ones know that tomorrow's game still has to be played and it will be a fight, hopefully a quick knock out for the gobblers.

and about solis from palacios, he's got a right to be cocky, he's one of the leading rushers in the state and pretty sure all of 3A.

headhunter

12-01-2007, 01:36 AM

You are right

I was at the game tonight and his last tochdown he reversed his field and made that touchdown happen the blocking broke down and he weezled his way out of it.

I also realize it was llano but this year against Cuero he broke a couple of 20+ runs

Hes good gotta respect him, hes earned it, Palacios has relied on him to produce and carry the weight and he has responded.

I believe he would get a chance to play college ball but he may not be big enough for the scouts to believe he can take the pounding

gold_33

12-01-2007, 12:21 PM

Game day's finally here and no talk about it! Wow suprising!

LH Panther Mom

12-01-2007, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by rb585
No, that's Liberty Hill.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

GreenMachine

12-01-2007, 12:31 PM

I know that you can throw out all the stats when these two play, BUT, if you look at the numbers... If Llano is soooo bad, didn't wimberly only beat them 28-7. Okay palacios beat Llano 31-20 and Wimberly is saying Palacios is horrible and that they would kill them. Hmmm, a little difference in the two scores, but not a lot. BTW. Cuero beat Palacios 50 something to 20.

Gobbla2001

12-01-2007, 12:32 PM

Gunna be a goodn

gold_33

12-01-2007, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Hey i listened to the LH game last night and was really impressed that yall just drove the ball and ran the clock down in the second half and didnt try to hang a 100pts of Navasota cause it sure seemed like yall could of.lol.

Anyways.....good luck to both sides tonight, hope for a clean injury free night of great 3a football.

Gobbla2001

12-01-2007, 12:38 PM

PLAYOFF DéJà VU
Cuero,Wimberly go at it again for round three

BY MIKE FORMAN - ADVOCATE SPORTS WRITER
December 01, 2007
Cuero coach Mark Reeve carries a number of memories from the bus ride to Matador Stadium in Seguin prior to his team’s 21-17 playoff win over Wimberley in 2004.

Reeve remembers the inclement weather, the fog that enveloped the stadium when the Gobblers arrived and a former Cuero player who was living in Wimberley telling him the Texans were fired up about playing his team.

But what sticks out in Reeve’s mind was what he saw on the side of the highway as the bus passed through Concrete.

“I think I saw five gobblers on the way down there,” Reeve said. “I took that as a good sign.”

Reeve didn’t see any gobblers on the road to San Antonio last year when Cuero suffered a 55-33 season-ending loss to Wimberley in the Alamodome.

Reeve might be looking for gobblers when Cuero (10-2) travels to Matador Stadium for today’s 6 p.m. Class 3A, Division II regional playoff game against Wimberley (6-6), but he’d rather see more of what he’s seen in the Gobblers’ previous two playoff games.

“This bunch has been ready to play,” Reeve said. “They’ve been playing really hard.”

Cuero cruised to a 64-7 bi-district win over Mathis and a 42-14 area win over Port Isabel and Reeve noticed a greater sense of urgency during the Gobblers’preparations for Wimberley.

“You could tell there was something different in the way they approached this ballgame,” Reeve said. “That’s the way it ought to be.”

Wimberley has won five straight games, including a 59-7 bi-district victory over South San Antonio West and a 42-6 bi-district triumph over Lytle. The Texans began the season 1-6, playing what Reeve calls “the toughest 3A schedule in the state of Texas.”

Wimberley lost to Giddings (55-21), Dripping Springs (31-14), Liberty-Eylau (30-24), Liberty Hill (35-10), which also defeated Cuero 49-35, Abilene Wylie (34-7) and Cypress Woods (29-27).

“They’re still the same on offense and the same on defense,”Reeve said. “The run the spread and the split on defense. If there’s an improvement, it’s on the defensive side. They might be the best defensive team we’ve played.”

Wimberley quarterback Barron Scudder has passed for 1,952 yards and 14 touchdowns but has also thrown 13 interceptions. Receivers Brooks Blakemore, Sean McDonald and Chris Wheeler each have over 20 receptions and have combined for 1,148 yards and eight touchdowns. Harley West, a returner from last year, has rushed for 823 yards and 17 touchdowns.

“I think there’s been a difference in both teams during the last seven or eight games,” Reeve said. “That’s the reason we’re both here.”

Cuero running back Quincey Whittington, who played in last year’s game, has rushed for 1,450 yards and 21 touchdowns and has 34 receptions for 649 yards and five touchdowns. Quarterback Tyler Arndt has passed for 2,154 yards and 21 touchdowns and will play against Wimberley for the first time.

“What happened last year or in 2004 is not an advantage for either one of us,” Reeve said. “It always comes down to explosive plays and not turning the ball over.”

NOTES: Cuero will be the home team…The Wimberley-Cuero winner will play the winner of Friday night’s Palacios-Llano game in the quarterfinals…the game will be broadcast on KBAR, 100.9 FM in Victoria and Webcast at www.gobblersports.com.

Mike Forman is a sports writer for the Victoria Advocate. Contact him at 361-580-6588 or mforman@vicad.com.

link: http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/894/story/162455.html

gold_33

12-01-2007, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by GreenMachine
I know that you can throw out all the stats when these two play, BUT, if you look at the numbers... If Llano is soooo bad, didn't wimberly only beat them 28-7. Okay palacios beat Llano 31-20 and Wimberly is saying Palacios is horrible and that they would kill them. Hmmm, a little difference in the two scores, but not a lot. BTW. Cuero beat Palacios 50 something to 20.

I thought that we should've beat Llano by more myself. Not making any excuses but our offense sputtered a couple times and we had two drives that ended in the red zone that would of helped us out. Even though the score was only 21pts difference we dominated the whole game. It also was the last game and last home game and with us up in the third Nelms started putting in some backups and seniors who dont play much and got the starters out before then end.

GreenMachine

12-01-2007, 01:00 PM

I AM READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL !!!!!!! GOOOO MEEAAANNNN GRREEEEENNNNNN !!!!!

rooster

12-01-2007, 01:27 PM

In response to comparing scores and stats, the most important stat today will be turnovers. Wimberley will have to win the turnover battle by probably plus two or more in order to win. If Cuero doesn't beat themselves with turnovers, they will prevail. Good luck toboth teams. :) :) :)

Gobbla2001

12-01-2007, 01:40 PM

I don't buy into comparing scores anyway... you really can't do it and be too successful... sure, if Wimberley beats a team 80-0 and Cuero loses to that team 30+-0 I can see you using that... but when it comes to closer games it's too hard to guage... different offenses vs. different defenses etc... esspecially when you're comparing how team A beat a team that got beat by a team that team B blew out... that's a stretch

not a very reliable system by comparing scores...

DrBob

12-01-2007, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by GreenMachine
I AM READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL !!!!!!! GOOOO MEEAAANNNN GRREEEEENNNNNN !!!!!

This has already been a long week waiting for game time. But this day is draging by

GreenMachine

12-01-2007, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
I don't buy into comparing scores anyway... you really can't do it and be too successful... sure, if Wimberley beats a team 80-0 and Cuero loses to that team 30+-0 I can see you using that... but when it comes to closer games it's too hard to guage... different offenses vs. different defenses etc... esspecially when you're comparing how team A beat a team that got beat by a team that team B blew out... that's a stretch

not a very reliable system by comparing scores... Food for thought... even if you don't like it :p

Highschoolfan78

12-01-2007, 03:16 PM

For tonight's halftime performance, The Gobblers and Texans will throw aside their hard hitting mentality, for a halftime dance..

http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=1130914565

CheerMom

12-01-2007, 04:51 PM

Go Mean Green!!!! I'll be listening on the radio!!:clap: :clap:

TexanAlum_06

12-01-2007, 10:44 PM

first off let me say. Cuero was no doubt the better team. I was mostly impressed by them by their execution on offense and defense. they werent very flashy or gawdy. but they just executed flawlessly and executed their gameplan to perfection. Now on to us. we were just overmatched... plain and simple. Had a poor effort from our studly QB.... can u feel the sarcasm??? our o line gave great protection all night and he just plain and simple missed easy throws which one of them was a wide open WR in the endzone. and some others that could of lead to scores. we didint run the ball. which is no surprise, we havent run the ball well against good defenses all year. I think Cuero will make a run the to Ship this year. Their QB is impressive for a sophomore. The one thing that Puzzled me was that cuero could have EASILY put this game away early in the first half and it could of easily been 35-0 at half but they just stayed to running the ball. and they could of burned us with the pass easily but they didnt. whether that be out of repsect or they didnt want to run the score or they didn want to show anything on film for a future matchup with celina? but anyway. this game could of been a lot worse. Im proud of the team and how far they came and I think we will have a pretty salty team next year. Congrats to Wimberley on a good season and Good luck to Cuero the rest of the way. yall have a really good team.

wimbo_pro

12-01-2007, 11:52 PM

We needed to have our best performance if we were to have even a CHANCE in this game. We gave one of our worst performances that I have seen in 6 years. Sad. Very Sad.

There were a few bright spots, but not many. We were out-played, out hussled, out executed and out-coached. The last comes as the biggest surprise, and the biggest disappointment.

Well, all is OK, because we salvaged a decent season from a disasterous one. We will be better next year, and even better the year after. To the seniors, good job, and we are proud of your years of entertaining us. Go Texans!!!!

And of course, Go Gobblers!!

GreenMachine

12-02-2007, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
We needed to have our best performance if we were to have even a CHANCE in this game. We gave one of our worst performances that I have seen in 6 years. Sad. Very Sad.

There were a few bright spots, but not many. We were out-played, out hussled, out executed and out-coached. The last comes as the biggest surprise, and the biggest disappointment.

Well, all is OK, because we salvaged a decent season from a disasterous one. We will be better next year, and even better the year after. To the seniors, good job, and we are proud of your years of entertaining us. Go Texans!!!!

And of course, Go Gobblers!! If you mean the last being out coached, I don't see that as a surprise. But, ya'll were and had a terrible gameplan.

wimbo_pro

12-02-2007, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by GreenMachine
If you mean the last being out coached, I don't see that as a surprise. But, ya'll were and had a terrible gameplan.

Yes, I meant out coached. And I DO see that as a surprise, seeing as how our coaching staff has really improved over the last three years....actually, since we last lost to you. An example of their good work would be the defeat of Cuero last year...they came out the 2nd half with a great plan.Not this year...not even close.

headhunter

12-02-2007, 12:24 AM

Reason your QB had so much time was because they were holding Cuero's d line. However thats not a big deal Cuero caught a few breaks early with our lineman picking up a fumble and gaining 8 yards. Also Wimberly almost pcked our QB pass off which would have been his first all year.

Cuero's O line and Dline won the game for them early. They won the battle at the line of scrimmage. Cuero's best Defense was their offense playing smash mouth football and keeping long drives that kept Wimberly's Offense off the field.

I though Wimberly had a pretty good team they just lost the battle at the line which didnt allow some of their plays develop.

My hats off to coach Reeve. That was probably the best executed Defense I have seen from us all season. At the end of 3 Quarters Wimberly only had 39 yards of total offense. They did have 2 80 yard drive in the 4th but the game was pretty much in hand.

The best thing I saw was Cuero prove they can run the ball consistintly. And the players stay healthy tonight. (Whittington gave me a scare) Great defensive game Cuero good luck against Palacios.

7:00 PM Friday Victoria

wimbo_pro

12-02-2007, 12:29 AM

There was holding on both sides...always is. Our offensive line did a good enough job of protecting the QB to be able to move the ball through the air. Our QB didnt perform....plain and simple. Five dropped passes didnt help either.

But yes, your D line stopped our running game cold. And your O line did a good job...not a great job. If they had done a great job, the score would have been far worse. Your QB is one hell of an athlete.

44INAROW

12-02-2007, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by TexanAlum_06
first off let me say. Cuero was no doubt the better team. I was mostly impressed by them by their execution on offense and defense. they werent very flashy or gawdy.The one thing that Puzzled me was that cuero could have EASILY put this game away early in the first half and it could of easily been 35-0 at half but they just stayed to running the ball. and they could of burned us with the pass easily but they didnt. whether that be out of repsect or they didnt want to run the score or they didn want to show anything on film for a future matchup with celina?

from a "girl's prospective" it seemed when the QB threw the ball - the WR didn't even try to go for it - maybe the wind was a factor - I don't know - it just seemed like they didn't even make an effort. Do the QB and WR's have "issues"........ back to your post - probably all 3 reasons...... ;) glad you'll got home safe and sound.... I was really surprised at the crowd.... does Wimberley not travel well? I am not trying to being tacky, I was just surprised at the size of the crowd. I wonder if anyone has a picture of the Cuero crowd. I'd like one taken from the opposing side sometime.....

off subject but a funny story - we were supposed to leave town @ 3:00 - ahead of the busses (by design) well, we leave at 3:00 on the dot - we get about 5 miles out of town and my Expedition started acting funny - like it wanted to go into passing gear for no reason - kind of a 'hesitation" type thing anyway.... husband "poo-poo'd" it off - of course I was freaking aka sighing loudly type actions- I don't like to break down on the side of the road.... so guess who won? ME - so we turned around and went back to the house and got his truck.. and low and behold -as we are headed back to the highway we are turning onto 183N and we get behind the band, trotter and cheerleader busses (all 5 of them) and got to follow them all the way to Seguin lol......... let's just say - it was a QUIET ride .......... gotta love it.............that would make a great Reality Show - put a hidden camera in the vehicle of a couple who's been married "FOR EVER" and video a 2 day cross country trip........ lol

wimbo_pro

12-02-2007, 12:38 AM

Cuero's crowd was about what I expected...about 3/4 full. Same as a few years ago. Cuero ALWAYS has a large crowd.

As far as ours...I think the tough season had something to do with it, not to mention the slim chance we had of even being competitive. As it turned out, we weren't. The Wimberley crowd was about what I expected.

44INAROW

12-02-2007, 12:55 AM

Stats via the www.victoriaadvocate.com

1st Downs
Wimberley 16
Cuero 21

Rushing
Wimberley 16 for 10 yards
Cuero 45 for 228 yards

Passing
Wimberley 21 of 41 for 202 yards with 0 INT
Cuero 12 of 19 for 129 yards with 0 INT

no idea on punts - but the wind played heck with the punting game

rb585

12-02-2007, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by TexanAlum_06
first off let me say. Cuero was no doubt the better team. I was mostly impressed by them by their execution on offense and defense. they werent very flashy or gawdy. but they just executed flawlessly and executed their gameplan to perfection. Now on to us. we were just overmatched... plain and simple. Had a poor effort from our studly QB.... can u feel the sarcasm??? our o line gave great protection all night and he just plain and simple missed easy throws which one of them was a wide open WR in the endzone. and some others that could of lead to scores. we didint run the ball. which is no surprise, we havent run the ball well against good defenses all year. I think Cuero will make a run the to Ship this year. Their QB is impressive for a sophomore. The one thing that Puzzled me was that cuero could have EASILY put this game away early in the first half and it could of easily been 35-0 at half but they just stayed to running the ball. and they could of burned us with the pass easily but they didnt. whether that be out of repsect or they didnt want to run the score or they didn want to show anything on film for a future matchup with celina? but anyway. this game could of been a lot worse. Im proud of the team and how far they came and I think we will have a pretty salty team next year. Congrats to Wimberley on a good season and Good luck to Cuero the rest of the way. yall have a really good team.

Agree with most of this, especially the part about Cuero's conservative approach. I couldn't believe they took a knee to end the half.

The Gobbler offense was doing anything they wanted in the first half, but they didn't seem to have a killer instinct.

The other thing -- Cuero's excecution was awesome. Late in the 3rd, I started trying to remember their mistakes. They had two straight false starts, and the only negative yardage play they had was on their first drive. That was it.

I don't think they're as talented as they were last year, but they sure played better football tonight than they did last year.

Congrats Gobblers.

TexanAlum_06

12-02-2007, 04:20 AM

Originally posted by rb585
Agree with most of this, especially the part about Cuero's conservative approach. I couldn't believe they took a knee to end the half.

The Gobbler offense was doing anything they wanted in the first half, but they didn't seem to have a killer instinct.

The other thing -- Cuero's excecution was awesome. Late in the 3rd, I started trying to remember their mistakes. They had two straight false starts, and the only negative yardage play they had was on their first drive. That was it.

I don't think they're as talented as they were last year, but they sure played better football tonight than they did last year.

Congrats Gobblers.

I totally agree. If I was calling the plays for cuero offensively. I would of gone to the air early in the first half and put the dagger to our chest and pretty much ended the game before the break. because with our performance offensively EVERYBODY in that stadium knew we werent going to be able to overcome a serious deficit. Like I said what impressed me most was cueros execution on offense and defense. was near flawless. they had a great game plan and it worked. Cuero looked like a much better team this year then last. Good luck to the Gobblers the rest of the way. Go Getchya another ring!

GreenMachine

12-02-2007, 10:29 AM

What I thought was SORRY was the Cuero stationed DPS were just outside of Cuero working the highway, and outside of Gonzales too (on the Cuero side) :mad:

gold_33

12-02-2007, 11:15 AM

This game was about what i expected, our O could not move the ball to save our life. Nelms should of made a change in QB for a series or two to change the pace up cause the starter was not getting it done plain and simple. Cuero ran the ball right down our throat and we couldnt do much about it. I thought overall though our D did a pretty good job it just seemed like they got wore down cause they were on the field all the time. Good luck to Cuero represent region IV for us and win it all. We'll see yall next year!!!

wimbo_pro

12-02-2007, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by GreenMachine
What I thought was SORRY was the Cuero stationed DPS were just outside of Cuero working the highway, and outside of Gonzales too (on the Cuero side) :mad:

I dont understand what you mean. Can you explain?

carter08

12-02-2007, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
I dont understand what you mean. Can you explain?

You wouldn't understand :/

HM33

12-02-2007, 12:06 PM

All in all, I thought it was a good performance. There are places where I would of changed some things, but thats just me. One thing would Take your number one guys out of the game. Every starter was on the Field for Cuero's last drive. why take a chance of them getting hurt? Thats just me, so unno. And If I sit down with Daddy Reeve I will tell him :P

wimbo_pro

12-02-2007, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by carter08
You wouldn't understand :/

OK Sparky...that's enough out of you. ;)

GreenMachine

12-02-2007, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
I dont understand what you mean. Can you explain? The highway patrol out of Cuero were sitting on the side of the road, right outside of Cuero, radaring the good citizens going to the game.

wimbo_pro

12-02-2007, 12:55 PM

You sure they werent there for support? You know, the ole' "Spray them with radar to offer our support" thing/ lol

JT44

12-02-2007, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by TexanAlum_06
I totally agree. If I was calling the plays for cuero offensively. I would of gone to the air early in the first half and put the dagger to our chest and pretty much ended the game before the break. because with our performance offensively EVERYBODY in that stadium knew we werent going to be able to overcome a serious deficit. Like I said what impressed me most was cueros execution on offense and defense. was near flawless. they had a great game plan and it worked. Cuero looked like a much better team this year then last. Good luck to the Gobblers the rest of the way. Go Getchya another ring!

I think after arndt's first few balls were kind of off, they kinda went to the run b/c it was working, they seemed to throw more with the wind at their backs.

It was a very simple game plan, if the texan coaching staff would have paid attention to any of their scouting reports, they could've had every play snuffed out.

TexanAlum_06

12-02-2007, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by JT44
I think after arndt's first few balls were kind of off, they kinda went to the run b/c it was working, they seemed to throw more with the wind at their backs.

It was a very simple game plan, if the texan coaching staff would have paid attention to any of their scouting reports, they could've had every play snuffed out.

Yeah. I noticed there was gaping holes right up the middle of the defense. and it looked like we had our DT's lined up on the tackles in stead of the gaurds and the 2 LB's line up right next to each other inside and damn near every play the the Og and center would both fire off untouched and block the LB's before they could even take a step. It didnt seem like we tried much of anything else. It confused me because that alignment we were using is a defense we run on certain situations but i had never seen it run so much, even going back to when i was playing 2 years ago. Overall I just didnt see very many adjustments throughout the game on offense or defense. and that was a bit surprising....