Region III GotW (Regional): Waco La Vega vs. WO-S [Archive]

88bobcats

11-24-2007, 02:11 PM

I don't think Waco La Vega has truly been tested this year.....perhaps by Marlin and University, but those games were two months ago or more.

I know they've got the speed, and they've been my dark horse pick for much of the year. After seeing WO-S on two occasions this year, I think Waco La Vega will succumb to the Mustangs' bend-but-don't-break defense.

WO-S Mustangs............34
Waco La Vega Pirates.....22

Old Tiger

11-24-2007, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by 88bobcats
I don't think Waco La Vega has truly been tested this year.....perhaps by Marlin and University, but those games were two months ago or more.

I know they've got the speed, and they've been my dark horse pick for much of the year. After seeing WO-S on two occasions this year, I think Waco La Vega will succumb to the Mustangs' bend-but-don't-break defense.

WO-S Mustangs............34
Waco La Vega Pirates.....22 China Spring, Robinson, Connally.

Stownhorse

11-24-2007, 02:13 PM

35-21 La Vega

kepdawg

11-24-2007, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
China Spring, Robinson, Connally.

29, 35, 41

JJ7997

11-24-2007, 02:15 PM

As much as I cant stand China Spring, to handle them like La Vega did means your pretty good.

Pure_FB_Fan14

11-24-2007, 02:18 PM

WO-S will not give up more than 18 points. Their defense may bend, but will NOT break, after witnessing both ball clubs play in recent weeks. Close one at the half, but WO-S will run away with this one in the 2nd half. My prediction: WO-S 34 La Vega 18.

RdaleBoi08

11-24-2007, 02:20 PM

Negative On The China Spring, Robinson, Connally...I'm Taking WOS

crazy

11-24-2007, 02:21 PM

I'll take the Mustangs by 14. Giddings had some of the biggest players we have seen this year. Man for man, Giddings should have won, if you went on size.

The bigger they are, the harder they fall!

setxsports

11-24-2007, 02:36 PM

WOS by 14.

giddingsblazer2

11-24-2007, 02:46 PM

we played la vega last year in the 3rd round......their running backs....i believe the Parr brothers.....they are for real

IHStangFan

11-24-2007, 02:59 PM

yup...been following WOS all year...they ALWAYS seem to catch another gear in the second half and run away w/ their games. It'll be close a at the half...but after half time...

I'll take WOS by 12 over La Vega.

BobcatBenny

11-24-2007, 03:03 PM

Man, that is a killer bracket.

Panther One

11-24-2007, 03:05 PM

I'll take La Vega.

alaskacat

11-24-2007, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
China Spring, Robinson, Connally.

The only one of them worth a darn is China Spring

R3Editor

11-24-2007, 09:23 PM

By popular demand, I've put in a request for a change for GotW.

Snydertigersrul

11-24-2007, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by R3Editor
By popular demand, I've put in a request for a change for GotW.

I say WOS will win this one. They have the best defensive coordinator in the state of Texas, who also has the rings to back that up.

charlesrixey

11-24-2007, 10:03 PM

as an impartial observer, i would say

West Orange-Stark 27, Waco La Vega 21

I do think WLV is offensively better than Giddings, though

dutchman

11-24-2007, 10:26 PM

Everyone has been talking about La Vega's offense, but their defense is the strength of the team. I went to the game because I believed that Crockett's speed would match up well with La Vega.

Crockett definitely had speed all over the field, but in the end it did not matter, La Vega shut them down, with the exception of two drives. I have never seen WOS before, so this should be a very good game. I will take La Vega.

20FAN07

11-24-2007, 10:28 PM

Can anyone inform me on Waco La Vega, i believe i read that they run the spread..?? I know they have some pretty good runnin backs, but i was just wondering on points of view from others.

DU_stud04

11-24-2007, 11:43 PM

i may venture down for this one :D

buff4ever

11-25-2007, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by JJ7997
La Vega is every bit as fast as WO-S and if it turns into a track meet theres no telling what it will end up being. To whoever is going to this one, you wont be disappointed when you see #12 for La Vega .

I don't think I would go there. WOS is a very fast team. If they had a qb that could put the ball in a receivers hands down field they would be UNSTOPPABLE.

Centextrash

11-25-2007, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by crazy
I'll take the Mustangs by 14. Giddings had some of the biggest players we have seen this year. Man for man, Giddings should have won, if you went on size.

The bigger they are, the harder they fall!

If you think Giddings has some big players ..... your in for a surprise when you see LaVega. There O-line is HUGE. BUT it is the Backs behind the line that will kill you.

LV 24
WOS 14

buff4ever

11-25-2007, 12:20 AM

I take la vega in this one. The one thing that made me think about this one is that I don't think that la vega will get the 3rd and long completions giddings got to extend some drives.

With that being said, I feared La vega coming into the playoff stretch more than WOS, didn't matter did it, that is b/c we saw them last year and they were really good. They gave us all we wanted and beat us up pretty good. This will be speed against power, and I think that power will be effective against WOS b/c they were vulnerable to the giddings run attack all night.

WOS87

11-25-2007, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by dutchman
Everyone has been talking about La Vega's offense, but their defense is the strength of the team.

Really??

5-5 2A team Marlin put up 12 against them
2-8 4A team Waco University put up 28 against them
5-6 3A team Cameron put up 20 against them

WO-S has stopped some pretty good offenses this year:

4A Dayton (34 points/game) - held to 14 in a 22-14 win by WO-S

3A Kirbyville (38 points/game) - held to 7 in a 31-7 win by WO-S

3A Giddings (34 points/game) - held to 19 in a 28-19 win by WO-S

and our worst defensive showing of the year...

3A Jasper (33 points/game) - held to 21 in a 41-21 win by WO-S

Crimestick

11-25-2007, 01:14 AM

It should be a tight game. WO-S isn't the biggest team you've faced this year, but I can guarantee you this - no one has hit the LV offense like they'll be hit on Friday. That doesn't mean it will shut them down - or even slow them down if they're tanks. But when they wake up on Saturday (through the next Saturday), win or lose, they will by God know they played WO-S.

JR2004

11-25-2007, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by JJ7997
As much as I cant stand China Spring, to handle them like La Vega did means your pretty good.

You know this, I know this and a few other folks here from the Waco area who know a bit about China Spring know this. I don't think the rest of the state understands that LaVega just simply doesn't blow China Spring out like they did on a regular basis. They've been on the other end of some beatdowns from the Cougars in recent years. To beat them 42-13 was huge for them. That win keeps looking better and better now that China is 11-1 and just a win away from a trip to the regional final.

SNYDER325TIGERS

11-25-2007, 01:52 AM

Waco La Vega will win by 14 points or more...

Crimestick

11-25-2007, 02:06 AM

Originally posted by JR2004
You know this, I know this and a few other folks here from the Waco area who know a bit about China Spring know this. I don't think the rest of the state understands that LaVega just simply doesn't blow China Spring out like they did on a regular basis. They've been on the other end of some beatdowns from the Cougars in recent years. To beat them 42-13 was huge for them. That win keeps looking better and better now that China is 11-1 and just a win away from a trip to the regional final.

It's an impressive win, but WO-S has its fair share of WHOA wins too, like 34-7 against 11-1 Kirbyville and 22-14 over Dayton, who just beat 4A's eighth-ranked Texas City 42-10 in the second round.
Oh, and previously-undefeated and top-ranked Giddings ;)

Rattlesnake_08

11-25-2007, 02:17 AM

I really do think the winner of this game will make it to the state championship...If not...Then I will be suprised.

tam

11-25-2007, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by buff4ever
I don't think I would go there. WOS is a very fast team. If they had a qb that could put the ball in a receivers hands down field they would be UNSTOPPABLE.

Your right. Wo-s has two great running backs as well. One of them didn't even play against Giddings, but you best believe he'll be playing this game. I don't think I need to mention about their defense. Wo-s will definately be the best team that La Vega has played all year. Wo-s just doesn't depend on speed, so it won't be a track meet. Once their defense figures out what your trying to do, then it's over.

WOS1

11-25-2007, 10:01 AM

WOS isn't just about speed this year. They have a very good offensive line as Giddings found out.

I did not realize that Marlin was 5-5 this year and University was 2-8 and both of their playoff opponents were a combined 13-10.

setxsports

11-25-2007, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
Waco La Vega will win by 14 points or more... Have you even see WOS play??????????????????????????

eagles_victory

11-25-2007, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by WOS1
WOS isn't just about speed this year. They have a very good offensive line as Giddings found out.

I did not realize that Marlin was 5-5 this year and University was 2-8 and both of their playoff opponents were a combined 13-10. Marlin is probably the strongest 5-5 2A team you will see. There losses were to Lavega Snyder Teague and Mart (both state ranked in 2a all year but upset early) and a Centerville game were they just didnt show up to play football. Lavega beat Marlin without both Parrs

crazy

11-25-2007, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by eagles_victory
Marlin is probably the strongest 5-5 2A team you will see. There losses were to Lavega Snyder Teague and Mart (both state ranked in 2a all year but upset early) and a Centerville game were they just didnt show up to play football. Lavega beat Marlin without both Parrs

BTW, I have read articles where the Parrs didn't play. Why didn't they play that game?

Snydertigersrul

11-25-2007, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by SNYDER325TIGERS
Waco La Vega will win by 14 points or more...

Are you crazy? You must never have seen high school football outside of West Texas.

setxsports

11-25-2007, 12:07 PM

wos-84

11-25-2007, 12:13 PM

I will take WOS in a tight one in the first half. WOS seals the deal in the second half. No matter how it looks on paper WOS will find a way to win. Its what they do. With the exception of wimberly in 05 in the semi's WOS hasnt lost by much so i dont believe La Vega will have enough to stop WOS. This of course is just my opinion and is in no way an insult to La Vega for they are still in the playoffs which means they must have something. Good luck to both teams.

35 WOS
14 La Vaga

20FAN07

11-25-2007, 01:06 PM

Gunna be another good one, hopefully it wont rain.

tam

11-25-2007, 01:14 PM

THIS IS WHAT I FOUND WITH THE TEAMS THAT LA VEGA HAS PLAYED AFTER 12 GAMES:

PF PA OVERALL RECORD

MARLIN 307 178 5-5

GROESBECK 75 292 1-9

FAIRFIELD 132 359 1-9

WACO UNIV. 200 385 2-8

MEXIA 190 330 4-7

CHINA SPRINGS 364 173 11-1

ROBINSON 267 227 6-5

GATESVILLE 107 328 2-8

LORENA 137 281 2-8

WACO CONNALLY 307 219 5-5

CAMERON YOE 266 333(PLAYOFF) 5-6

CROCKETT 369 228(PLAYOFF) 8-4

OPPONENTS COMBINED RECORD: 52-75

PF PA

WO-S 428 116 (AFTER 12 GAMES)

THE BEST DEFENSE THAT LA VEGA HAS PLAYED (CHINA SPRINGS) HAVE GIVEN UP 57 MORE POINTS THIS YEAR THAN WO-S. THE BEST OFFENSE THEY'VE FACED(CROCKETT) HAS SCORED 59 LESS POINTS THIS YEAR THAN WO-S. NOT SAYING LE VEGA ISN'T GOOD BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE TO MAKE IT THIS FAR, BUT I DON'T FEEL THEY HAVE PLAYED A TEAM OF WO-S CALIBER OFFENSIVELY OR DEFENSIVELY THIS YEAR.

WO-S OPPONENTS COMBINED RECORD 65-64

tHEY'VE PLAYED THREE 4a TEAMS IN DAYTON, BAY CITY AND LCM TWO MADE THE PLAYOFFS ONLY LCM HAD A LOSING RECORD

Old Tiger

11-25-2007, 02:30 PM

So when and where is this game being played?

20FAN07

11-25-2007, 02:38 PM

Bowers stadium, huntsville
Friday @ 7:30

88bobcats

11-25-2007, 03:38 PM

WO-S has had success at SHSU. I remember a game back in the '86 championship season where Quentin Tezeno absolutely levelled a receiver. They drove the meat wagon onto the field to cart the kid away. One of the most vicious hits I've ever seen.

I can't remember if that game was against Brenham or New Braunfels. Seems like I remember the other team wearin' green.....so it must've been Brenham.

pirate4state

11-25-2007, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by JJ7997
La Vega is every bit as fast as WO-S and if it turns into a track meet theres no telling what it will end up being. To whoever is going to this one, you wont be disappointed when you see #12 for La Vega . :eek: :eek: just as fast!!! :eek: :eek:

Can't wait!!! :clap:

Old Tiger

11-26-2007, 08:28 AM

La Vega is big.

tam

11-26-2007, 08:38 AM

Big teams don't usually do well against us. We have played against really big teams this year and usually by the third and forth quarters they are worn out. Our runningbacks get stronger in the second half.

crazy

11-26-2007, 10:14 AM

Our WHOLE TEAM gets stronger in the second half. It's like they get a second wind or something. It's been amazing to watch!

eagles_victory

11-26-2007, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by crazy
BTW, I have read articles where the Parrs didn't play. Why didn't they play that game? they got in trouble last year they didnt play vs Groesbeck either. Their first game back was the game against us :(

eagles_victory

11-26-2007, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by tam
THIS IS WHAT I FOUND WITH THE TEAMS THAT LA VEGA HAS PLAYED AFTER 12 GAMES:

PF PA OVERALL RECORD

MARLIN 307 178 5-5

GROESBECK 75 292 1-9

FAIRFIELD 132 359 1-9

WACO UNIV. 200 385 2-8

MEXIA 190 330 4-7

CHINA SPRINGS 364 173 11-1

ROBINSON 267 227 6-5

GATESVILLE 107 328 2-8

LORENA 137 281 2-8

WACO CONNALLY 307 219 5-5

CAMERON YOE 266 333(PLAYOFF) 5-6

CROCKETT 369 228(PLAYOFF) 8-4

OPPONENTS COMBINED RECORD: 52-75

PF PA

WO-S 428 116 (AFTER 12 GAMES)

THE BEST DEFENSE THAT LA VEGA HAS PLAYED (CHINA SPRINGS) HAVE GIVEN UP 57 MORE POINTS THIS YEAR THAN WO-S. THE BEST OFFENSE THEY'VE FACED(CROCKETT) HAS SCORED 59 LESS POINTS THIS YEAR THAN WO-S. NOT SAYING LE VEGA ISN'T GOOD BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE TO MAKE IT THIS FAR, BUT I DON'T FEEL THEY HAVE PLAYED A TEAM OF WO-S CALIBER OFFENSIVELY OR DEFENSIVELY THIS YEAR.

WO-S OPPONENTS COMBINED RECORD 65-64

tHEY'VE PLAYED THREE 4a TEAMS IN DAYTON, BAY CITY AND LCM TWO MADE THE PLAYOFFS ONLY LCM HAD A LOSING RECORD First off you cant just rape the numbers because what your saying is inaccurate. Crocketts defense was the best they played and Chinas offense was the best they played.

You cant just look at scores and numbers because points can be scored against backups in a blowout. Another thing is you cant look at there points for and points against because Crockett played a lot better offenses than did China so you cant predict a game by numbers. The playoffs arent played on paper

tam

11-26-2007, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by eagles_victory
First off you cant just rape the numbers because what your saying is inaccurate. Crocketts defense was the best they played and Chinas offense was the best they played.

You cant just look at scores and numbers because points can be scored against backups in a blowout. Another thing is you cant look at there points for and points against because Crockett played a lot better offenses than did China so you cant predict a game by numbers. The playoffs arent played on paper

All I know is, most of the people they have played have a losing record...you can't explain that away. They will be playing the best team they have ever played this week, that's for sure.

setxsports

11-26-2007, 12:06 PM

Without a doubt!

buff4life

11-26-2007, 02:02 PM

I think LaVega will have some success running the ball against the WOS D...

tam

11-26-2007, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by buff4life
I think LaVega will have some success running the ball against the WOS D...

And Wo-s will have success running against their D as well. They will also have success passing.

buff4life

11-26-2007, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by tam
And Wo-s will have success running against their D as well. They will also have success passing.

agree...but i think LaVega will have enough success to keep the WOS off the field for the majority of the time...

pirate4state

11-26-2007, 02:11 PM

Even though I picked La Vega in our pick'em brackets, after seeing WOS the Pirates will have to be pretty darn special to beat WOS. I'm excited to watch this game! Is it Friday yet? :D

tam

11-26-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by pirate4state
Even though I picked La Vega in our pick'em brackets, after seeing WOS the Pirates will have to be pretty darn special to beat WOS. I'm excited to watch this game! Is it Friday yet? :D

Not yet, about four more days.

headhunter

11-26-2007, 02:43 PM

THis game will be a track meet

Both teams have great speed and talent

I am looking for special teams to play a big role in who wins this one. In round one i though WOS would come out on top but I believe Waco La Vega wins this one 34-30

setxsports

11-26-2007, 03:03 PM

WOS wins.

buff4ever

11-26-2007, 03:03 PM

WOS needs to keep the game in control enough that they don't need to use their kicker. The flat toe didn't look sure to me. Of course our kicker that doesn't miss, missed 2 extra points himself the other night.

headhunter

11-26-2007, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by buff4ever
WOS needs to keep the game in control enough that they don't need to use their kicker. The flat toe didn't look sure to me. Of course our kicker that doesn't miss, missed 2 extra points himself the other night.

Agreed
Special teams could make the difference in this one
could be a good special teams play or a mishap that leads to the other scoring

setxsports

11-26-2007, 03:19 PM

I can promise you this, WOS will be ready!!! They have the best Coaches around.

tam

11-26-2007, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by headhunter
THis game will be a track meet

Both teams have great speed and talent

I am looking for special teams to play a big role in who wins this one. In round one i though WOS would come out on top but I believe Waco La Vega wins this one 34-30

Well if they do that then they will do something no other team has been able to do this year and that's score more than 21 points. Only one team has score more than 20 points on us. So they will have to have one heck of an offense to score 34 points. We will have to make alot of turnovers for that to happen.

headhunter

11-26-2007, 03:37 PM

just a prediction I dont know a great deal about these two teams just throwing my opinion in their. Both teams have great athletes thats why I belive it could be high scoring. WOS I know is very fast maybe the fastest team in 3a.

48minutes

11-26-2007, 04:14 PM

WOS will take this one, but it will be tough. Team with the fewest mistakes will get this one actually. It could easily be a nail-biter.

20FAN07

11-26-2007, 05:37 PM

Buff4ever...
Yeah your right, the extra points must be made. But hey in the coldsprings game we kicked a field Goal!! I think it was bout 25 yards out, that was pretty exciting...we really never have had a dominant kicker. but other than that it's going to be a good game with WOS coming away with a W. Go get'em Stangs!

setxsports

11-26-2007, 05:44 PM

WOS wins with Athletes, Speed and a Chaingang Defense!

Runnin Panther

11-26-2007, 05:44 PM

La Vega has been my dark horse pick for the State Championships since LH went D1.

Would love to see a Cuero/La Vega match up.
I will say La Vega by 14.

20FAN07

11-26-2007, 05:51 PM

well speakin of match ups.......i've always wanted a WOS vs Cuero match up

headhunter

11-26-2007, 05:54 PM

I dont believe neither team has ever played Cuero I could be wrong but if WOS played Cuero it would be a very fast game - lots of offense and big plays - it would be a track-meet

Runnin Panther

11-26-2007, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by 20FAN07
well speakin of match ups.......i've always wanted a WOS vs Cuero match up

That would be a good match up also.

I think it’s pretty certain that the winner of this game will be playing Cuero for a trip to the state championship.

buff4ever

11-26-2007, 05:58 PM

People always seem to jump on the track meet topic with fast teams. That is not always the case, remember last year giddings and WOS met and it was a defensive war. Sometimes the fast on defense can contain the fast on offense. This year's giddings and WOS speed game was a little more track like, but I don't consider 28 - 19 a track meet either.

Speed kills alright, but sometimes it kills offenses. WOS's speed on defense is not bad at all.

headhunter

11-26-2007, 06:01 PM

All I am saying is that Cuero has put up at least 35 points in all but one game this year I can see a shootout easier than a defensive battle with these two teams

I dont even give this topic much thought since Cuero has to beat a very tough Wimberly team

buff4ever

11-26-2007, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by headhunter
All I am saying is that Cuero has put up at least 35 points in all but one game this year I can see a shootout easier than a defensive battle with these two teams

I dont even give this topic much thought since Cuero has to beat a very tough Wimberly team

Wimberly is not tough for one, and remember that giddings and wos were both averaging 40 plus on offense. GOOD defenses don't give up 35 points VERY OFTEN.

headhunter

11-26-2007, 06:13 PM

Wimberly will play Cuero tough
It is one of those games when you can throw out what has happened in Weeks 1-12 and all that matters is who wants it more.

You are right Cuero should win and I believe will win but it is going to be a dog fight. Cuero just to many playmakers for Wimberly to stop.

WOS or La Vega is ywo weeks away and is not really important right now. Though I know you and me both would like to see Cuero vs WOS Your right it would be a very good game

tam

11-26-2007, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by 20FAN07
Buff4ever...
Yeah your right, the extra points must be made. But hey in the coldsprings game we kicked a field Goal!! I think it was bout 25 yards out, that was pretty exciting...we really never have had a dominant kicker. but other than that it's going to be a good game with WOS coming away with a W. Go get'em Stangs!

Actually it was a 32 yard field goal I think and what's funny is...I think that's the first field goal that we have attempted this year.

20FAN07

11-26-2007, 06:44 PM

32, sounds even better lol. I think your right on the only field goal attempt.

MrUmp1

11-26-2007, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by tam
Actually it was a 32 yard field goal I think and what's funny is...I think that's the first field goal that we have attempted this year.

That was the 2nd fg attempted and made this year by WOS kicker. He also kicked a very important 22 yd fg against Silsbee in the 7th game. If LaVega can score more than 28 on the Stangs then they are the team to beat through the Semi's. Celina should win the other side of the bracket and will make a very tough opponent in the finals no matter whom they play. I still have to pick WOS. Defense wins this game and the offense will score at least 28.

20FAN07

11-26-2007, 10:21 PM

yea your right, i forgot about that one.

Crimestick

11-26-2007, 11:46 PM

Here's a video of WO-S WR Josh Gloston's kickoff return TD against Giddings. Scroll down and click on the picture. By the time he scores, there's no one within 15 yards of him.

http://www.kogt.com/kogt_sports.htm

RdaleBoi08

11-27-2007, 12:41 AM

isnt WOS Coach well known?..like even in the nation?

headhunter

11-27-2007, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by RdaleBoi08
isnt WOS Coach well known?..like even in the nation?

Yes he has been their a long time and has a good program year in and year out.

I believe (could be wrong) has one of the best winning % in the state of active coaches and ranks pretty high on most wins. I am not for sure just know he is thought of to many as a pretty good coach.

20FAN07

11-27-2007, 01:11 AM

yeah your right, he's owns the #1 spot of best winning % in the state

headhunter

11-27-2007, 01:19 AM

what is it because i know coach reeve of cuero is pretty high up their

20FAN07

11-27-2007, 01:28 AM

Not sure exactly the number, but its around 80% i believe

setxsports

11-27-2007, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by Crimestick
Here's a video of WO-S WR Josh Gloston's kickoff return TD against Giddings. Scroll down and click on the picture. By the time he scores, there's no one within 15 yards of him.

http://www.kogt.com/kogt_sports.htm That was nice!!

20FAN07

11-27-2007, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by 20FAN07
yeah your right, he's owns the #1 spot of best winning % in the state
Here you go, this is WOS87's work...... you can find 21 - 200 and many more stats here http://www.**********.com/setxforum/index.php?topic=13872.0

Some of these numbers differ slightly from other posted rankings but these are the numbers I have calculated from my own research. The records of all 1016 current schools 1A through 5A on the UIL roster for 2007 were included in compiling this list.

Top 200 Highest All-Time Winning Percentages among active 11-man UIL teams (no minimum games played)
(includes all games played before 11/7/07) Updated!

1. 0.7890 3A-21 West Orange-Stark (277-73-3)

2. 0.7795 5A-3 Odessa Permian (450-123-12)

3. 0.7794 4A-1 El Paso Chapin (53-15-0)

4. 0.7713 4A-20 Houston Yates (365-104-12)

5. 0.7579 5A-5 Southlake Carroll (406-127-8)

6. 0.7527 5A-25 Austin Westlake (339-109-7)

7. 0.7457 5A-11 Dallas Carter (346-115-9)

8. 0.7397 5A-1 El Paso Franklin (108-38-0)

9. 0.7367 4A-10 Highland Park (693-239-27)

10. 0.7241 4A-25 Pflugerville Connally (84-32-0)

11. 0.7194 5A-8 Arlington Lamar (297-114-6)

12. 0.7141 2A-29 Universal City Randolph (342-133-13)

13. 0.7121 5A-4 Mansfield Summit (47-19-0)

14. 0.7002 5A-26 Converse Judson (385-162-10)

15. 0.6947 4A-23 La Marque (500-215-17)

16. 0.6938 4A-17 Austin Reagan (331-143-11)

17. 0.6938 1A-23 Groveton (597-254-34)

18. 0.6931 5A-28 San Antonio Clark (229-100-5)

19. 0.6897 5A-2 Amarillo (698-308-22)

20. 0.6877 5A-9 Plano (691-301-47)

headhunter

11-27-2007, 01:43 AM

this is teams not coaches isnt it?

setxsports

11-27-2007, 01:46 AM

Yes

20FAN07

11-27-2007, 01:48 AM

I couldn't find WOS87's coaches stats, someone will have it later on

wos-84

11-27-2007, 09:23 AM

man that video just gets my pumped up. cant wait for friday.:)

pirate4state

11-27-2007, 10:07 AM

Bull19

11-27-2007, 07:31 PM

whats the point of the train horn after the touchdown

20FAN07

11-27-2007, 09:43 PM

The same reason other teams do it............ Giddings had one as well.

44INAROW

11-28-2007, 01:33 AM

hhmmm I am torn on this one, but some folks I know who have seen WOS play, say they are really good, so I will go with WOS - nothing scientific or personal - just a gut feeling ;) Plus they got the best "stat guy" this side of the Mississippi :cool:

TexanFan4Life

11-28-2007, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by 44INAROW
hhmmm I am torn on this one, but some folks I know who have seen WOS play, say they are really good, so I will go with WOS - nothing scientific or personal - just a gut feeling ;) Plus they got the best "stat guy" this side of the Mississippi :cool:

If WO-S is without Barrett again, I'm going with La Vega. If Barrett plays, I'm still going with La Vega.

20FAN07

11-28-2007, 01:55 AM

garrett

TexanFan4Life

11-28-2007, 03:39 AM

Originally posted by 20FAN07
garrett

Gold jacket, green jacket, who gives a ____?

tam

11-28-2007, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by TexanFan4Life
Gold jacket, green jacket, who gives a ____?

Boy, the haters, I tell you. I gaurantee you everybody that has played them know the Garrett's name really well. Consider yourself lucky that your team didn't have to experience that.

setxsports

11-28-2007, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by 44INAROW
hhmmm I am torn on this one, but some folks I know who have seen WOS play, say they are really good, so I will go with WOS - nothing scientific or personal - just a gut feeling ;) Plus they got the best "stat guy" this side of the Mississippi :cool: The thing i like about this WOS team is they are still young, Alot of Sophmores and Jr's.

pirate4state

11-28-2007, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by TexanFan4Life
Gold jacket, green jacket, who gives a ____? Well if you are gonna use someone's name, at least get it right!

eagle40

11-28-2007, 01:31 PM

I haven't had the opportunity to watch WO-S, but I have had the privelege of watching the pirates twice this season, including once in the playoffs. They play at a level of intensity that you only see in state contenders. I cannot accurately predict a score due o my lack of knowledge on WO-S but I do not expect to WO-S to win as easily as some you assume they will.

eagles_victory

11-28-2007, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by eagle40
I haven't had the opportunity to watch WO-S, but I have had the privelege of watching the pirates twice this season, including once in the playoffs. They play at a level of intensity that you only see in state contenders. I cannot accurately predict a score due o my lack of knowledge on WO-S but I do not expect to WO-S to win as easily as some you assume they will. well said eagle40

20FAN07

11-28-2007, 02:35 PM

Nicely put, alot and when i say alot i mean most WOS people know this is going to be a tough game no matter who is it. Once you get deep every game is going to be a good one. Dont let some of the posters names full you, most WOS people won't predict scores. Good Luck and everyone better buckle down cuz it's almost friday

crazy

11-28-2007, 03:00 PM

setxsports

11-28-2007, 03:02 PM

Should be a great game!

eagle40

11-28-2007, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by crazy
Since you admit that you haven't seen the Mustangs play, then you cannot say with what intensity in which they play. They, too, expect to win a game and will introduce intense to LaVega.

Forgive me if I wasn't clear, but I was referring to the intensity of LaVega. I am sure it will be a great game but I do not foresee WO-S coming out and winning by as much as some users on this site propose they will. The Pirates have an extremely talented team.

j_dog

11-28-2007, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by tam
Boy, the haters, I tell you. I gaurantee you everybody that has played them know the Garrett's name really well. Consider yourself lucky that your team didn't have to experience that.
for sure. without Garrett, Jasper might have had a chance. ;) :mad:

crazy

11-28-2007, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by eagle40
Forgive me if I wasn't clear, but I was referring to the intensity of LaVega. I am sure it will be a great game but I do not foresee WO-S coming out and winning by as much as some users on this site propose they will. The Pirates have an extremely talented team.

I know you were talking about LaVega. I am only adding that the Mustangs also play with intensity. I have heard that the Pirates have big players and they are talented. I am sure they are quite good. It may not be a landslide, but I think LaVega will be surprised at WOS' intensity and determination to win as well.

WOS87

11-28-2007, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by j_dog
for sure. without Garrett, Jasper might have had a chance. ;) :mad:

You guys do realize that there are TWO Garretts that are both averaging over 7 yards per carry don't you? (DePauldrick and Quintavious). To be completely accurate there are actually 3 Garretts (Reggie is there as well).

WO-S individual stats (http://www.chron.com/sports/highschoolsports/results.html?site=default&tpl=Team&Sport=1&TeamID=257&SearchType=Teams)

FrmSTx

11-28-2007, 09:48 PM

I hope WOS wins by 40, it would make me feel better about myself

TexanFan4Life

11-28-2007, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by pirate4state
Well if you are gonna use someone's name, at least get it right!

Yeah that was my fault. I actually thought it was Barrett.

I couldn't resist using the classic Happy Gilmore line.

crabman

11-28-2007, 10:54 PM

IIIIIIFFFFFFF Cuero were to make it to the state game and IIIIIFFFFF WOS were to win Region III, Cuero's path to state would read like a Who's Who of Texas 3A football.

Mathis- Been there before
Port Isabel - Been to the semis
Wimberly - recent champs
Palacios or Llano - no example is perfect
WOS - been there, done that
Celina - Wow.

With one exception, that is a murderers row of opponents. Who knows, if we get by Wimberly with our shirts, one of the other teams could very well beat us.

20FAN07

11-29-2007, 10:10 AM

One more day...

Crimestick

11-29-2007, 10:11 PM

Regardless who makes it this year, they will have earned it. WO-S had an easy first round, but after round 1, it has been:

Giddings (11-0)
LaVega (12-0)
IF we go further:
Kirbyville or China Spring (either will be 12-1)
Cuero

This is not a year for "the Sisters of the Poor" (as Coach Hooks says) to make it all the way.

c-town_balla

11-29-2007, 11:15 PM

I want La Vega to win, but I think anyone who runs right at LV will do well...not misdirection don't pull alot just run at em there LBs aren't good when you run right at em...Cameron passed on LV well and im sure WOS wrs are better athlethes than ours

20FAN07

11-30-2007, 12:53 AM

WOS doesn't run anything fancy, they will run up the middle, off the tackles, to the sides or quarterback keepers. The best thing about it is that WOS has two running backs (Garret brothers) that run identical. The only thing different about them is their name and classification, they run identical and are pretty quick and agile. The passing game is pretty good but not the best in 3A, but we better not catch you sleepin cuz we have some quality athletes lined up out there that can do some damage. Passing game is not that fancy either, we just run the basic stuff but our wr have been doing a tremendous job on yards after the catch. And i love to watch the screens....... it's going to be a good game. I still don't know much about Waco La Vega, but besides they have some speed and a big o-line.
With all that said I think WOS comes away with the win. Going into the game i think the tempo will be set by the WOS defense. Knowing Waco La Vega has pretty good backs aswell (atleast thats what i have heard) it will be interesting. The worse thing that could happen is it be a shoot out (just because it's bad for the heart), but i think WOS will still win due to the fact that i believe WOS has a slightly better defense than Waco La Vega looking at whom they have played. Gunna be a good one, safe trip to all, injury free game and best of luck to Waco La Vega.
Go Get'em Stangs!!

20FAN07

11-30-2007, 06:57 PM

1 hour and 34 min till kickoff (roughly) best of luck and safe trip to all teams playin tonite

29-3aFAN

11-30-2007, 09:00 PM

any updates?

gobbler grad

11-30-2007, 09:02 PM

very tight poll...could go either way...:thinking:

dutchman

12-01-2007, 01:28 AM

I stated earlier that La Vega's defense was the strength of their team and had posts made about their schedule against very weak teams without winning records, while WOS had played all of the strong 4A schools. Well I would like the WOS posters thoughts on the La Vega defense now that they have seen it up close and personal.

20FAN07

12-01-2007, 01:51 AM

La Vega did have a good defense, but nothing that i havent seen before. The second half was horrific for us, la vegas defense was there but it was things that were just normal things that just didn't go right. The first half was a good showing by both teams. In the second half i didn't think we looked up to par, there were some "questionables " i had but nothing towards la vega. Yall have good size and enough skill but i think i problem yall will face is lining up against a more powerful/bigger team. WOS defense did a tremendous job tonite in pressure and on the parr (i think thats correct) brothers, i can't say enough about them. But when i say more powerful/bigger i mean just that. WOS is not big on the d lines but they are very quick and they gave la vega troubles throughout the first half. If a team has a little bigger dline that are fast/quick..La Vega will have problems. There lineman are big and make good holes don't get me wrong, but thats what i concluded. Yall fixed that in the second half and began to run right up the middle (which is exactly what Huffman did to us yrs back). But yall played a good game and best of luck to yall down the road.

"WOS......we don't rebuild, we just reload...we'll be back next year"

setxsports

12-01-2007, 01:55 AM

I agree WOS ran the ball just fine in the first half on them. This whole WOS team is back next year!

dutchman

12-01-2007, 02:01 AM

I am not from La Vega. I support the Marlin Bulldogs, but went to the game to support a Central Texas team.

I found this post on the ********** web site:

La Vega ends WO-S season, 20-12

Van Wade
The Orange Leader

HUNTSVILLE — A tremendous season by the West Orange-Stark Mustangs came to an end Friday night after a sluggish second half, something that the Mustangs never had all season.

The Waco La Vega Pirates ripped off 14 unanswered points in the second half to take down the Mustangs 20-12 in the Class 3A Region III Division III regional semifinals at Sam Houston State University’s Bowers Stadium Friday night.

The Pirates (13-0) received 141 tough yards and two touchdowns from senior fullback Kourtney Parr. The Mustangs (11-2) controlled the first half but failed to get a first down in the second half. The Pirates outgained the Mustangs 310-196 but held a164-22 advantage after intermission.

“We ran 11 plays with no first downs in the second half and you can’t win like that,” said long-time Mustang head coach Dan Hooks. “I’m not blaming our offense, it’s just how the game got away from us in the second half.”

http://www.orangeleader.com/hssports/local_story_334235433.html?keyword=topstory

If you have a roster from the game, La Vega probably had about four seniors starting in the game tonight.

20FAN07

12-01-2007, 02:05 AM

I didn't mean anything towards anyone, i was just givin a shout out at what i say/thought. But yeah good season guys and best of luck to Waco La vega

j_dog

12-01-2007, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by WOS87
You guys do realize that there are TWO Garretts that are both averaging over 7 yards per carry don't you? (DePauldrick and Quintavious). To be completely accurate there are actually 3 Garretts (Reggie is there as well).

WO-S individual stats (http://www.chron.com/sports/highschoolsports/results.html?site=default&tpl=Team&Sport=1&TeamID=257&SearchType=Teams)
I thought you had 30 of them. :(

WOS1

12-01-2007, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by dutchman
I stated earlier that La Vega's defense was the strength of their team and had posts made about their schedule against very weak teams without winning records, while WOS had played all of the strong 4A schools. Well I would like the WOS posters thoughts on the La Vega defense now that they have seen it up close and personal.

My honest opinion is that, yes LV does have a quality defense. However, we moved the ball on them quite well in the first half ringing up 170 yards of offense. In the second half we decided to play "not to lose" instead of remaining aggressive which is what cost us. I think that, had we kept the same philosophy as in the first half instead of trying to win with a 6 point lead you would have seen a different second half. This is a trait of ours over the last 8 or 9 years in big games and the reason we will not win another state title, DESPITE having a ton of athletes and the best defensive coordnator in the state, until some changes are made.

Congratulations to LV, they kept coming at us and there is only so many times you will be abe to stop a team with that much talent and size under the shadow of your own goal post.