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TexanFan4Life
11-22-2007, 11:59 PM
Why isn't the 4-4 used more often in 3A? In certain situations, it would be the best defense to run. Too many teams always jump into a 5-2, or 5-3, or even the old school 50. The 4-4 is great because of its versatility in different situations.

Let's talk defense!!
kaorder1999
11-23-2007, 12:09 AM
most teams that run a 4-2-5 are actually running a 4-4. They just like to call it a 4-2-5 because it sounds better against the spread
pirate4state
11-23-2007, 12:21 AM
Can ya'll include some visuals & audio. I want to learn, but just reading it does me no good! :( I need pictures!! :D
kaorder1999
11-23-2007, 12:22 AM
i dont know where to get pics...lol
Big Papa
11-23-2007, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by pirate4state
Can ya'll include some visuals & audio. I want to learn, but just reading it does me no good! :( I need pictures!! :D

oh well that sounds all to familiar... :D
TexanFan4Life
11-23-2007, 12:43 AM
p4s...every time I try to copy a diagram of anything it automatically left aligns everything. Sorry.

Rice runs a true 4-2-5 on D and they...well...they get hammered by everyone. I have yet to see a 3A team line up in a 4-4 this season. Granted, I haven't seen everyone, but I'm just curious as to why they don't utilize it more often.

A couple years ago, I asked a high school DC why it wasn't utilized more often and this was his answer to me:

"It's too easy for the offense to check out of it."

I was looking for a more in-depth answer. WHY is it so easy for them to check out of it? etc etc....
kaorder1999
11-23-2007, 12:48 AM
i think anytime you run an even front it makes it easier for the offense to run check with me's....its easy to trap check with me and make calls at the line...etc
RdaleBoi08
11-23-2007, 12:48 AM
because the offense can audible to another play and coaches with high powered offenses can score easily...
TexanFan4Life
11-23-2007, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by RdaleBoi08
because the offense can audible to another play and coaches with high powered offenses can score easily...

I'm not talking about using it as a base...just in certain situations. Heck, blitz your FS, play your 2 OLB's head up w/ the outside guy on the LOS (OT or TE)...play your strongside end in a 9 and your weakside end in a 5...line your DTs up as 3-techs. There's so many things you can do with that.
RdaleBoi08
11-23-2007, 12:57 AM
Good point, i always thought we would get killed runnin the 3-4 but when i saw how we used it started to like it...
TexanFan4Life
11-23-2007, 12:59 AM
Do you guys blitz/stunt a lot, or are you more of a coverage-type defense?
RdaleBoi08
11-23-2007, 01:02 AM
depends on what team were we playin and if they had any speed or athletes but i would say stunt and blitz more than anything cuz we played only 2 true passin teams...
TexanFan4Life
11-23-2007, 01:04 AM
Do/did you play? Or are you just a fan?
RdaleBoi08
11-23-2007, 01:04 AM
Ya I Was The RB #10 lol...
TexanFan4Life
11-23-2007, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by RdaleBoi08
Ya I Was The RB #10 lol...

cool. I assume RDale means Rockdale. Sorry, I don't think I've ever seen you on here. I'm fairly new.

You still play? Or did you grad. already?
RdaleBoi08
11-23-2007, 01:08 AM
This Was My Last Year...Names Kortlin White, I Hardly Post On here Just Like To Read whats going on lol..
TexanFan4Life
11-23-2007, 01:09 AM
Awesome! Do you plan to play in college? I only ran track in HS, but I plan to start coaching soon.
RdaleBoi08
11-23-2007, 01:10 AM
Yea I Plan Too...Where Do You Think You'll Start Coachin?
pancho villa
11-23-2007, 01:12 AM
we run a 4-2-5 or split if you prefer, the true 4-4 gives the o-line good blocking angles in my opinion
TexanFan4Life
11-23-2007, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by RdaleBoi08
Yea I Plan Too...Where Do You Think You'll Start Coachin?

At a 5A school in Houston if everything goes well. I'd like to start as a LB Coach, but we'll see what happens...

Everybody told me I should play FB all through HS (I graduated in 2002), but I never did listen...lol
RdaleBoi08
11-23-2007, 01:15 AM
haha..i see
TexanFan4Life
11-23-2007, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by RdaleBoi08
haha..im being recruited as a RB & FB...

5'10" 201, right? I saw that you run a 4.5...pretty nice. How many yards did you end up with this season?
pirate4state
11-23-2007, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by RdaleBoi08
haha..i see good luck --- didn't we meet you at the LH/Celina game last year??
BILLYFRED0000
11-23-2007, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by TexanFan4Life
Why isn't the 4-4 used more often in 3A? In certain situations, it would be the best defense to run. Too many teams always jump into a 5-2, or 5-3, or even the old school 50. The 4-4 is great because of its versatility in different situations.

Let's talk defense!!

That is a good question. I saw it last year a couple of times and I was impressed with it's versatility. And you can Disguise what you are going to do with it. I like the Split the best of the 4-4 alignments. Great D to run IMHO.