Hey DU stud

[DUKE22]

So who you got in the fight between Vargas and Mayorga on Sat. I say Mayorga knocks him out inside of six.

[DU_stud04]

hmm, im going to have to go with mayorga as well. vargas was the reason this fight was prosponed in the first place, with his iron deficiency. new weight for both of the fighters, i just dont think vargas has what it takes to rumble in the ring anymore. he claims that this will be the last fight of his career regardless of the result. during press conferences, they have gotten pretty heated up, couple of brawls already. i think its alot of hot air though, trying to get a big crowd for his last dance.

mayorga in 7

the press conferences are funny, mayorga calls him a fatty about 20 times hahaha, id post the video, but there is a little language,

FH VIDEO: VARGAS-MAYORGA PRESS CONFERENCE BRAWL

^^^search that in youtube

[DU_stud04]

did you get to see the Miguel Cotto vs. Sugar Shane Mosley or the Joe Calzaghe vs. Mikkel Kessler fights?

both were awesome, check them out if you didnt see them, especially the kessler calzaghe fight :D

[DU_stud04]

lastly..... im sure youve heard of this one for a few months now...

December 8
At Las Vegas (HBO PPV): Floyd Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton, 12 rounds, for Mayweather's Ring/WBC welterweight title

mayweather.... dont blink or you might not see him. pure defense, makes people miss and try to make them catch up in the ring. ive seen many boxer lose it when boxing with him, because they simply cant hit mayweather. he'll dance around you and then throw about 10 punches faster than you can say "what?" watch some of his training vidoe's, his speed is unbelievable. to someone who enjoys the sweet science, theyll love this guy, for someone who likes a slugfest, defiantly not one of their favorite boxers.

ricky hatton is like the energizer bunny, he just doesnt stop coming at you. he clinches alot, but he;s throwing alot of punches while he's in there. that might be a problem for mayweather, someone can actually keep up with his avoidance. im going out on a limb and say that ricky hatton will frustrate mayweather and make him fight inside....if that happens, im giving this fight to hatton.

press on this fight is pretty big as well, mayweather coming out of "retirement" alot of trash talking on both sides. hatton is a funny guy, check the press conferences out.

[JJ7997]

I would love to see Mayweather get his teeth knocked down his throat.

[DUKE22]

Originally posted by DU_stud04
lastly..... im sure youve heard of this one for a few months now...

December 8
At Las Vegas (HBO PPV): Floyd Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton, 12 rounds, for Mayweather's Ring/WBC welterweight title

mayweather.... dont blink or you might not see him. pure defense, makes people miss and try to make them catch up in the ring. ive seen many boxer lose it when boxing with him, because they simply cant hit mayweather. he'll dance around you and then throw about 10 punches faster than you can say "what?" watch some of his training vidoe's, his speed is unbelievable. to someone who enjoys the sweet science, theyll love this guy, for someone who likes a slugfest, defiantly not one of their favorite boxers.

ricky hatton is like the energizer bunny, he just doesnt stop coming at you. he clinches alot, but he;s throwing alot of punches while he's in there. that might be a problem for mayweather, someone can actually keep up with his avoidance. im going out on a limb and say that ricky hatton will frustrate mayweather and make him fight inside....if that happens, im giving this fight to hatton.

press on this fight is pretty big as well, mayweather coming out of "retirement" alot of trash talking on both sides. hatton is a funny guy, check the press conferences out. Yeah I saw Cotto and Mosley thought it was awesome. Cotto is for real, I was really impressed. As much as I hate to say it I think Mayweather wins a decision. I am just not sure who can beat that guy.

[DUKE22]

Originally posted by DU_stud04
did you get to see the Miguel Cotto vs. Sugar Shane Mosley or the Joe Calzaghe vs. Mikkel Kessler fights?

both were awesome, check them out if you didnt see them, especially the kessler calzaghe fight :D Yeah I saw Kessler vs Calzaghe as well. That really was way better than I thought. I guess Calzaghe is for real after all. However, I dont think he can beat Hopkins.

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by DUKE22
Yeah I saw Kessler vs Calzaghe as well. That really was way better than I thought. I guess Calzaghe is for real after all. However, I dont think he can beat Hopkins. calzaghe is a beast, he isone of my favorite boxers. i think him and kessler put on one hell of a show, there isnt any one else for him to go after, besides up which is what he is doing now.

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by DUKE22
Yeah I saw Cotto and Mosley thought it was awesome. Cotto is for real, I was really impressed. As much as I hate to say it I think Mayweather wins a decision. I am just not sure who can beat that guy. mosley surprised me, i didnt think he would go toe to toe with cotto, and he lasted alot longer than i thought he would, still has gas in the tank but cotto is just the better boxer now.

as for mayweather, im not sure who can beat him either, but im really hoping hatton can be that man. two cocky guys going at it, im hoping for a good fight.

[DU_stud04]

boxing threads make me http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/mexmustangs04/a_happyme.gif

[DU_stud04]

Richardo Mayorga wins majority decision over Fernando Vargas (http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=AkeGWqplGjc9tpxGeHd7pLOUxLYF?slug=ap-vargas-mayorga&prov=ap&type=lgns)

after the first round knockdown, i didnt expect it to go to decision.

[DU_stud04]

Mayweather could set PPV record vs. Hatton
By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports
November 28, 2007


http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-mayhatton112807&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


LAS VEGAS — Billy Graham ducked outside of the UFC Gym to grab a cigarette as Ricky Hatton dressed for his sparring session on Wednesday.

The affable trainer, who is covered with more tattoos than the mixed martial artists who usually frequent the gym, spied a small group of reporters and approached them with a query.

"Who do you think is going to win the fight," he said, taking a long drag on his cigarette before smiling wryly.

Graham, Hatton's long-time trainer, knew the answer before he asked the question. All three, of course, told him they expected Floyd Mayweather Jr. would win a unanimous decision over Hatton when they meet in a battle for pound-for-pound supremacy in an HBO pay-per-view bout on Dec. 8 at the MGM Grand Garden.

"I've heard," he said, shifting uncomfortably from one foot to another, "that a lot of reporters here think Mayweather is going to outclass Rick. Well, believe me, no one outclasses Ricky Hatton. Someone, I heard, said he wouldn't win a round. I've heard a lot of ridiculous things."

And that was before the caravan headed across town to visit Mayweather's gym, where trainer Roger Mayweather was like a warm-up act while his nephew Pretty Boy Floyd was fashionably late. Mayweather Jr. has been the best fighter in the world for about the past seven years. He is so gifted that he really doesn't need a trainer, which he proved by winning every round a year ago against Carlos Baldomir while his uncle sat in a jail cell on domestic violence charges.

Roger Mayweather's job is to hawk pay-per-views and to provide comic relief, because he blew the chance to be a math tutor.

He was unhappy with the scoring in his nephew's May 5 win over Oscar De La Hoya at the MGM which set a record of 2.5 million PPV sales.

"That (expletive) fight wasn't even (expletive) close," he said. "No (expletive) way. I had it 8-3, 9-4, something like that."

OK, so math isn't his specialty, but Roger Mayweather, who called himself "a specialist in the art and craft of skillful boxing," isn't too concerned. He, like everyone involved in the promotion, can already sense the money beginning to flow.

The fight sold out in about a half hour, generating a total paid gate of more than $10 million. Already, 18,000 closed circuit tickets have been sold in Las Vegas. Sponsors are beating the door down hoping to attach their names to the bout.

And Mayweather Jr., who was derided for much of his career as a poor draw, might set an astonishing mark.

Promoter Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy said all other revenue streams for the Mayweather-Hatton bout are running at about 60 percent of what they were for the Mayweather-De La Hoya bout in May, which was the richest fight ever.

He said the pay-per-view results generally follow that trend which, if true, means Mayweather-Hatton will do about 1.5 million pay-per-view sales. That would make Mayweather Jr. the first non-heavyweight ever to sell more than 1 million pay-per-views in back-to-back fights, as well as the first man to 4 million in one calendar year.

He could generate more than $200 million in pay-per-view revenue alone in 2007.

The kid who was dogged for an inability to sell out a small arena in his hometown might all of a sudden have become the most valuable property in the sport. He's learned fabulously well how to sell a pay-per-view show.

Roger Mayweather still hasn't caught on to the idea that building up an opponent makes a win over him that much more significant. And so Wednesday, he spent much of his time profanely demeaning Hatton's skills to reporters, refusing to concede he was good in any area.

The only thing Hatton has, Roger Mayweather said, was heart. But he laughed uproariously when he was asked about Hatton's skills.

"As old as I am, he wouldn't hit me with that wild-ass (expletive) he's throwing from the ground," the 46-year-old ex-super lightweight champion says of Hatton. "The (expletive) ain't even got a jab. How you going to hit someone who don't have a jab? That means he's going to do what? He'll come in with his (expletive) face. He's going to get the same thing all the rest of them got."

Mayweather Jr. might feel the same way, but he's too smart to say it. He's aware that if he trashes Hatton too much, he'll turn potential customers away.

"If I say it's one-sided, nobody will want to buy the pay-per-view," Mayweather Jr. said, beaming.

Perhaps half of those 1.5 million people that Schaefer expects to dole out $54.95 to buy the pay-per-view will be watching just to marvel at his Leonard-esque skills.

But a fighter is really a draw when there's at least as many who want to see him get his block knocked off as there are who want to see him win. And in Hatton, a gritty, physically strong and unusually determined man who has fashioned a 43-0 record, they're hoping they have the man who can finally wipe the grin off Mayweather's face.

"Floyd has something like no other fighter," Schaefer said. "Half of his audience absolutely loves the guy. They love him for his talent, his smile, how flashy he is, everything he stands for and how brilliant in the ring he is.

"The other half, they hate the guy. They can't wait for the guy to lose. They think he's bad for the sport. It drives them crazy when they see him throwing money around and they ask what kind of a signal does that send to the youth.

"You have these two big, very large groups with different agendas, but one thing in common: They all want to see him fight."

Roger Mayweather was pitching his nephew as the greatest fighter ever, a point Mayweather Jr. has made repeatedly.

Hatton heaped praise upon Mayweather as the best of this generation, but rolled his eyes at the suggestion that he compared favorably with all-time greats.

"I read somewhere that he said he is better than Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali," Hatton said. "Yeah, and my (expletive) is as big as Ron Jeremy's."

It was that kind of day. A little less than two weeks before the fight and everyone can afford to joke around.

But with a potential rematch against De La Hoya looming – Schaefer said it's a possibility for May 3 if Mayweather wins – Mayweather has a serious task ahead of him.

"Floyd pays more for accountants to count up his money than these other guys make in their careers, because he has the one thing that none of them have," Roger Mayweather said. "Skills. Floyd's got the big skills so he can pay them heavy bills."

[DUKE22]

Originally posted by DU_stud04
Mayweather could set PPV record vs. Hatton
By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports
November 28, 2007


http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-mayhatton112807&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


LAS VEGAS — Billy Graham ducked outside of the UFC Gym to grab a cigarette as Ricky Hatton dressed for his sparring session on Wednesday.

The affable trainer, who is covered with more tattoos than the mixed martial artists who usually frequent the gym, spied a small group of reporters and approached them with a query.

"Who do you think is going to win the fight," he said, taking a long drag on his cigarette before smiling wryly.

Graham, Hatton's long-time trainer, knew the answer before he asked the question. All three, of course, told him they expected Floyd Mayweather Jr. would win a unanimous decision over Hatton when they meet in a battle for pound-for-pound supremacy in an HBO pay-per-view bout on Dec. 8 at the MGM Grand Garden.

"I've heard," he said, shifting uncomfortably from one foot to another, "that a lot of reporters here think Mayweather is going to outclass Rick. Well, believe me, no one outclasses Ricky Hatton. Someone, I heard, said he wouldn't win a round. I've heard a lot of ridiculous things."

And that was before the caravan headed across town to visit Mayweather's gym, where trainer Roger Mayweather was like a warm-up act while his nephew Pretty Boy Floyd was fashionably late. Mayweather Jr. has been the best fighter in the world for about the past seven years. He is so gifted that he really doesn't need a trainer, which he proved by winning every round a year ago against Carlos Baldomir while his uncle sat in a jail cell on domestic violence charges.

Roger Mayweather's job is to hawk pay-per-views and to provide comic relief, because he blew the chance to be a math tutor.

He was unhappy with the scoring in his nephew's May 5 win over Oscar De La Hoya at the MGM which set a record of 2.5 million PPV sales.

"That (expletive) fight wasn't even (expletive) close," he said. "No (expletive) way. I had it 8-3, 9-4, something like that."

OK, so math isn't his specialty, but Roger Mayweather, who called himself "a specialist in the art and craft of skillful boxing," isn't too concerned. He, like everyone involved in the promotion, can already sense the money beginning to flow.

The fight sold out in about a half hour, generating a total paid gate of more than $10 million. Already, 18,000 closed circuit tickets have been sold in Las Vegas. Sponsors are beating the door down hoping to attach their names to the bout.

And Mayweather Jr., who was derided for much of his career as a poor draw, might set an astonishing mark.

Promoter Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy said all other revenue streams for the Mayweather-Hatton bout are running at about 60 percent of what they were for the Mayweather-De La Hoya bout in May, which was the richest fight ever.

He said the pay-per-view results generally follow that trend which, if true, means Mayweather-Hatton will do about 1.5 million pay-per-view sales. That would make Mayweather Jr. the first non-heavyweight ever to sell more than 1 million pay-per-views in back-to-back fights, as well as the first man to 4 million in one calendar year.

He could generate more than $200 million in pay-per-view revenue alone in 2007.

The kid who was dogged for an inability to sell out a small arena in his hometown might all of a sudden have become the most valuable property in the sport. He's learned fabulously well how to sell a pay-per-view show.

Roger Mayweather still hasn't caught on to the idea that building up an opponent makes a win over him that much more significant. And so Wednesday, he spent much of his time profanely demeaning Hatton's skills to reporters, refusing to concede he was good in any area.

The only thing Hatton has, Roger Mayweather said, was heart. But he laughed uproariously when he was asked about Hatton's skills.

"As old as I am, he wouldn't hit me with that wild-ass (expletive) he's throwing from the ground," the 46-year-old ex-super lightweight champion says of Hatton. "The (expletive) ain't even got a jab. How you going to hit someone who don't have a jab? That means he's going to do what? He'll come in with his (expletive) face. He's going to get the same thing all the rest of them got."

Mayweather Jr. might feel the same way, but he's too smart to say it. He's aware that if he trashes Hatton too much, he'll turn potential customers away.

"If I say it's one-sided, nobody will want to buy the pay-per-view," Mayweather Jr. said, beaming.

Perhaps half of those 1.5 million people that Schaefer expects to dole out $54.95 to buy the pay-per-view will be watching just to marvel at his Leonard-esque skills.

But a fighter is really a draw when there's at least as many who want to see him get his block knocked off as there are who want to see him win. And in Hatton, a gritty, physically strong and unusually determined man who has fashioned a 43-0 record, they're hoping they have the man who can finally wipe the grin off Mayweather's face.

"Floyd has something like no other fighter," Schaefer said. "Half of his audience absolutely loves the guy. They love him for his talent, his smile, how flashy he is, everything he stands for and how brilliant in the ring he is.

"The other half, they hate the guy. They can't wait for the guy to lose. They think he's bad for the sport. It drives them crazy when they see him throwing money around and they ask what kind of a signal does that send to the youth.

"You have these two big, very large groups with different agendas, but one thing in common: They all want to see him fight."

Roger Mayweather was pitching his nephew as the greatest fighter ever, a point Mayweather Jr. has made repeatedly.

Hatton heaped praise upon Mayweather as the best of this generation, but rolled his eyes at the suggestion that he compared favorably with all-time greats.

"I read somewhere that he said he is better than Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali," Hatton said. "Yeah, and my (expletive) is as big as Ron Jeremy's."

It was that kind of day. A little less than two weeks before the fight and everyone can afford to joke around.

But with a potential rematch against De La Hoya looming – Schaefer said it's a possibility for May 3 if Mayweather wins – Mayweather has a serious task ahead of him.

"Floyd pays more for accountants to count up his money than these other guys make in their careers, because he has the one thing that none of them have," Roger Mayweather said. "Skills. Floyd's got the big skills so he can pay them heavy bills." I will be shocked if this breaks the record. I am back and forth as to how good a fight this will really be. Mayweather just wins he doesnt really care how entertaining it is, and Hatton holds half the time. I hope I am wrong but I say Mayweather by decision. By the way the 24/7 stuff on HBO has been really cool the past couple of weeks.

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by DUKE22
I will be shocked if this breaks the record. I am back and forth as to how good a fight this will really be. Mayweather just wins he doesnt really care how entertaining it is, and Hatton holds half the time. I hope I am wrong but I say Mayweather by decision. By the way the 24/7 stuff on HBO has been really cool the past couple of weeks. hatton might clinch alot..... but he's always throwing punches while clinched..... which will be good for him against someone like mayweather. i really think they match up well against each other. i guess we'll see whats up in about a week and a half

[DUKE22]

Originally posted by DU_stud04
hatton might clinch alot..... but he's always throwing punches while clinched..... which will be good for him against someone like mayweather. i really think they match up well against each other. i guess we'll see whats up in about a week and a half Do you happen to know who is on the undercard. I saw your post earlier about the Vargas fight and yeah I thought it was pretty good. Mayorga is a bit like Gatti was in that he does not have to win or have a title to make you want to watch him, and nobody talks the fight up better than Mayorga.

[Old Tiger]

Did the Kimbo/Tank fight happen? Who won?

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by DUKE22
Do you happen to know who is on the undercard. I saw your post earlier about the Vargas fight and yeah I thought it was pretty good. Mayorga is a bit like Gatti was in that he does not have to win or have a title to make you want to watch him, and nobody talks the fight up better than Mayorga.

Saturday, December 8 - at Las Vegas (HBO PPV) -


10 rounds, super middlewights: Jeff Lacy (22-1, 17 KOs) vs. Peter Manfredo Jr. (28-4, 13 KOs).

12 rounds, super bantamweights: Eduardo Escobedo (20-2, 14 KOs) vs.
Daniel Ponce de Leon (33-1, 30 KOs)

12 rounds, WBC welterweight title: Floyd Mayweather Jr.
(38-0, 24 KOs) vs. Ricky Hatton (43-0, 31 KOs)

i think thats the line up for the night.

my picks for that night are manfredo, ponce de leon, and ricky hatton :D

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Did the Kimbo/Tank fight happen? Who won? it was canceled. that fight belongs in parking lot on youtube....
<--- not interested.

[DUKE22]

Originally posted by DU_stud04
Saturday, December 8 - at Las Vegas (HBO PPV) -


10 rounds, super middlewights: Jeff Lacy (22-1, 17 KOs) vs. Peter Manfredo Jr. (28-4, 13 KOs).

12 rounds, super bantamweights: Eduardo Escobedo (20-2, 14 KOs) vs.
Daniel Ponce de Leon (33-1, 30 KOs)

12 rounds, WBC welterweight title: Floyd Mayweather Jr.
(38-0, 24 KOs) vs. Ricky Hatton (43-0, 31 KOs)

i think thats the line up for the night.

my picks for that night are manfredo, ponce de leon, and ricky hatton :D Ok I think I will go with Mayweather(i hope not) Ponce de leon, and I guess Lacy, just because I think the contender is a joke.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by DU_stud04
it was canceled. that fight belongs in parking lot on youtube....
<--- not interested. If that is the case I'll take Kimbo!

[DU_stud04]

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3133494

marquez and pacquiao just signed a rematch fight for march 15th :D

pacquiao is my favorite boxer....i cant wait

[Stownhorse]

That was a heated conference.