Navasota 41, Needvile 20, Final

[HEMOTOXIC]

27 Navasota
06 Needville Haltime score

34-12 End of Third Q

[CHS_Grad '85]

Congrats to the Rattlers... now it's Giddings and Caldwell's turn... GO DISTRICT 23!!! :clap: :clap:

[HEMOTOXIC]

Stats from Chron.com

1 2 3 4 OT Total
Navasota 7 20 7 7 0 41
Needville 6 0 6 8 0 20

Navasota
Passing
Name Comp Att Pct Yds TD INT
Jacolby Stokes 9 11 81.82 216 2 0

Rushing
Name Att Yds Yds/Att Long TD
Dexter Pratt 17 223 13.12 60 4

Receiving
Name Rec Yds Yds/Catch Long TD
Dexter Pratt 1 78 78 0 1
Brandall Jackson 5 123 24.6 46 1

Needville
Passing
Name Comp Att Pct Yds TD INT
Cole Young 1 5 20 10 0 0
Bryan Buzek 2 3 66.67 12 0 0
Harold Hunter 0 1 0 0 0 0
Caleb Berry 0 1 0 0 0 1

Rushing
Name Att Yds Yds/Att Long TD
Harold Hunter 11 61 5.55 14 1

Receiving
Name Rec Yds Yds/Catch Long TD
Trey Porras 1 10 10 0

[g$$]

Sounds like Dexter Pratt lived up to the billing as a national recruit for next year. Sure hope he stays close to home & plays for the Aggies & our new coach!

Needville: is RB Wilkerson hurt or something? Did not see his stats listed...just wondering. Thanks for the help.

Congrats to D23 on this one.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Originally posted by g$$
Sounds like Dexter Pratt lived up to the billing as a national recruit for next year. Sure hope he stays close to home & plays for the Aggies & our new coach!

Congrats to D23 on this one.


That would be nice. Whoop!

[Bull's-eye]

The 2 scouts from Texas liked what they saw from Pratt. Maybe they could take him a year early, Bellville along with the other district teams wouldn't have to deal with him another year. :D

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by g$$
Sounds like Dexter Pratt lived up to the billing as a national recruit for next year. Sure hope he stays close to home & plays for the Aggies & our new coach!

Needville: is RB Wilkerson hurt or something? Did not see his stats listed...just wondering. Thanks for the help.

Congrats to D23 on this one. Wilkerson went out early w/ a seperated sholder. He had 62yds on 8 carries I believe before going out.

[Darren]

Congrats Navasota.

[navscanmaster]

For Wilkerson, the 62 yards was correct, but our stat guys subtracted the 13 yard run that was negated by a penalty. I hope he is OK, nobody has really said anything about him. I don't want the Rattler win to overshadow the injury to Wilkerson, he was a talented back and should play on Saturdays next year. If any Needville folks can give us an update, please do so.

[Crow22]

Thadeus left the game in the 1st quarter with a badly separated shoulder. Following that, we had 6 more injuries during a 9 minute stretch in the 2nd quarter....the snowball effect.

Navasota is a fantastic team....just like we knew they were. Pratt is the real deal.

Just wish we'd been able to see Wilkerson and Pratt both on the field at the same time. Before Wilk went out it looked like it was going to be a big time shootout with whoever having the ball last winning.

Congratulations Rattlers. Good luck in the playoffs.

[Pudlugger]

Way to go Rattlers! Keep it up! On to round two. :D

[Old Tiger]

Whaley is better than Pratt. Bet dat

[navscanmaster]

:rolleyes: Morning oh grumpy one.

[ronwx5x]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Whaley is better than Pratt. Bet dat
See thread title. :cool:

[JDOG]

As I said early in the year"Speed Kills" and Needville had none.

[RattlerDude]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Whaley is better than Pratt. Bet dat

Chris Whaley does get more yards than Dexter Pratt but he also carries the ball twice as much as Dexter. I would really like to see Chris Whaley do what Pratt can do. I am not saying Whaley is not good, I am just saying he is not as good as Pratt. "Bet dat"

[HEMOTOXIC]

Originally posted by RattlerDude
Chris Whaley does get more yards than Dexter Pratt but he also carries the ball twice as much as Dexter. I would really like to see Chris Whaley do what Pratt can do. I am not saying Whaley is not good, I am just saying he is not as good as Pratt. "Bet dat"


Don't even respond to him. He doesn't like anything about Navasota. The fact that we won is killing him. Good Job Rattlers!

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by HEMOTOXIC
Don't even respond to him. He doesn't like anything about Navasota. The fact that we won is killing him. Good Job Rattlers! haha to you it may seem that way.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by RattlerDude
Chris Whaley does get more yards than Dexter Pratt but he also carries the ball twice as much as Dexter. I would really like to see Chris Whaley do what Pratt can do. I am not saying Whaley is not good, I am just saying he is not as good as Pratt. "Bet dat" good point. guess we'll have to see when they both go off to college and who gets PT and more yards and what not.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Originally posted by Go Blue
haha to you it may seem that way.


LOL, hey Buddy...:D

[State_In_08]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Whaley is better than Pratt. Bet dat

Haha... If you think that, I guess it's your opinion. Fact is, Pratt gets half the carries Whaley does and still performs on or past Whaley's level. Get the yards per carry average... that should tell the story.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Houston Chronicle Video on Dexter Pratt and the Rattlers.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid823433113/bctid1312931665

[themsu97]

not always... opinions are different but stats do not always prove who the better back is... teams can "pad" a kids stats against weaker teams to make players appear better... not saying that either kid mentioned here are bad or overrated, just simple facts... I actually coached for a guy who made sure that one of our backs always looked good and tried to put him in situations to make his stats look great...
it happens... only way to tell is early in games against common opponents and late in games against tough opponents...

[State_In_08]

Originally posted by themsu97
not always... opinions are different but stats do not always prove who the better back is... teams can "pad" a kids stats against weaker teams to make players appear better... not saying that either kid mentioned here are bad or overrated, just simple facts... I actually coached for a guy who made sure that one of our backs always looked good and tried to put him in situations to make his stats look great...
it happens... only way to tell is early in games against common opponents and late in games against tough opponents...

Not all coaches are out to make one kid look great... Dexter does that on his own.

[Old Tiger]

Whaley has been doing it since his freshmen year. I haven't heard of Dexter Pratt till this year.

[themsu97]

again, you missed the point, I never said that was going on in this case, just stating that there are alot of people in the world who know that stats can be and sometimes are very misleading for that reason...
It appears that Pratt is the real deal...
nevermind, logic is something that is lost on some of you

[Crow22]

I've been coaching for 10 years and I've never faced a better one than Pratt.....and I've faced some GOOD ones.

He's one of the top 10 backs I've ever seen in high school. If he stays healthy and continues to work hard, he has NFL written all over him.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Whaley has been doing it since his freshmen year. I haven't heard of Dexter Pratt till this year.


Just because you are ignorant and didn't know MR. PRATT until now isn't anyone's fault but yours. Maybe you should read more. You are the same jerk who didn't know that Navasota and Brenham had been playing each other since the 1920's.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by HEMOTOXIC
Just because you are ignorant and didn't know MR. PRATT until now isn't anyone's fault but yours. Maybe you should read more. What are his stats from his sophomore and freshmen seasons? Is he going to be a 4 year starter?

[Old Tiger]

http://texas.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1900


Looks like Whaley is better RB :D

[g$$]

Originally posted by Go Blue
What are his stats from his sophomore and freshmen seasons? Is he going to be a 4 year starter?

Some kids blossom late. That means nothing about stats & 4 years starting. I say both Pratt & Whaley will do good things at the next level. Scouts sure think so too.

Good call MSU97.

Congrats to Navasota.

[UPanIN]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Whaley is better than Pratt. Bet dat

Who does Whaley play for?

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by UPanIN
Who does Whaley play for? Madisonville

[UPanIN]

Thanks. Once I seen Madisonville I remembered hearing about him. I've seen Pratt and he is good but I've also heard about this kid from Madisonville and he's supposed to be the real deal. Hopefully both will keep their heads on and do well at the next level.

[UPanIN]

Navasota looked very good last night. Needville losing their RB made this game a lot easier for the Rattlers. A good RB gives the Rattlers problems and that is what has to be fixed.

If they can make 2-3 third down stops per game they have a chance to go a long way in the playoffs.

[navscanmaster]

I would just like to add something before this thread gets split up into "pertaining to" and "not pertaining to" separate threads:D

Whaley: 6'3 230
Pratt: 6'2 220

They are both big college caliber backs. Dexter finished with 1650 yards on the season and he missed two games. Whaley finished with 1970. Their stats are similar, except that Dexter finished with about a yard per carry more over the entire season. Both teams do have other weapons besides their stud RBs. We have the playoffs and a possible rematch next year against Madisonville to help us see who the better back is. But the fact is, we will also have entire college careers to judge them too. So that said, I'll be back on here in 2012 to let you know my final opinion about who is the better back. Till then, let the 16-17 year olds enjoy their high school experience.:)

[ronwx5x]

Originally posted by navscanmaster
I would just like to add something before this thread gets split up into "pertaining to" and "not pertaining to" separate threads:D

Whaley: 6'3 230
Pratt: 6'2 220

They are both big college caliber backs. Dexter finished with 1650 yards on the season and he missed two games. Whaley finished with 1970. Their stats are similar, except that Dexter finished with about a yard per carry more over the entire season. Both teams do have other weapons besides their stud RBs. We have the playoffs and a possible rematch next year against Madisonville to help us see who the better back is. But the fact is, we will also have entire college careers to judge them too. So that said, I'll be back on here in 2012 to let you know my final opinion about who is the better back. Till then, let the 16-17 year olds enjoy their high school experience.:)
Bravo to you. Good post.:clap:

[Rattlesnake_08]

Originally posted by Go Blue
What are his stats from his sophomore and freshmen seasons? Is he going to be a 4 year starter?

If that was the case, then Whaley for being good his Fr and So years should then be light years ahead of Pratt, but he is not.

Just for the record I think Whaley is a good back.

[themsu97]

that is correct... kids are different and different systems and coaches will produce different results which is why you cannot judge kids in high school... and 16-18 boys will act differently every day, let them enjoy their time...kudos to both

[Old Tiger]

Whaley will rush for around 7 or 8 thousand yards maybe more in his HS career and have loads of TD's.

[Rattlesnake_08]

And I wasn't tryin' to start stuff with my previous post...I was just offering logic that maybe no one thought about.

[State_In_08]

Originally posted by Go Blue
http://texas.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1900


Looks like Whaley is better RB :D

Yeah... those rankings matter about as much the BCS.

[g$$]

Originally posted by State_In_08
Yeah... those rankings matter about as much the BCS.

Exactly (but don't tell Go Blue!).

Good posts above concerning both kids.

[State_In_08]

Just for the record:

Pratt has 168 carries on the year, next closest, Jacolby Stokes (Navasota QB), has 105.

Chris Whaley has 223 carries on the year, next closest, Nelson Veliz, has 45.

Navasota has attempted 169 passes, while Madisonville has only attempted 130.

I think its pretty obvious that Madisonville relies on Whaley a little bit more than Navasota does on Pratt.